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“I Don’t Feel Like I Owe Her Anything”: Woman Refuses To Take In Sister’s 3 Kids After She Passes Away From Cancer
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“I Don’t Feel Like I Owe Her Anything”: Woman Refuses To Take In Sister’s 3 Kids After She Passes Away From Cancer

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As much as we would like to say we could do anything for our family, the reality is usually a little more nuanced than that. Relationships with our closest people are often tested, and sadly, some challenges turn out too big for them.

Such was the case for Reddit user InterestingStaff6566 and her sister. The two of them drifted apart during their teens, and had not been in touch for years. Recently, however, the situation changed after InterestingStaff6566 was contacted by her sibling—the woman informed that she was terminally ill. The bad news also came with one request: she wanted InterestingStaff6566 to adopt her three children.

But after much deliberation, the sister refused. People immediately started calling her selfish and blaming her for the tough decision. Their words eventually got into her head and made her question her judgment, so she turned to the “Am I the A***ole?” community, asking for their opinion. Here’s what she wrote.

Recently, a terminally ill woman reached out to her sister whom she had cut ties with long ago, and asked her to adopt her three kids

Image credits: Vitolda Klein (not the actual photo)

But the sibling said no

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To help us understand the situation a little better, we contacted Talya Stone, a former public relations specialist turned blogger and the woman behind online journals Motherhood: The Real Deal and 40 Now What — bold and authentic, Stone consistently tackles difficult subjects and, among other topics, has produced plenty of insightful texts on parenting.

“Becoming a parent overnight of one child already requires a huge level of self-sacrifice but three really would be an unspeakable level of overwhelm and would be exceptionally difficult,” she told Bored Panda. “However, you do hear of people who have taken on such a role, but one cannot even begin to fathom how difficult this would be, especially for a child-free person who has no prior experience of parenting.”

“Having said that, we humans are incredibly adaptable, surprisingly resilient, and capable of dealing with challenges worse than this and to balance out all of the difficulties of assuming this parenting role, as well as the struggles there, would no doubt be plenty of upsides of having your life enriched in this word,” Stone added. “But yes, it would take a seismic shift in perspective and lifestyle.”

Being responsible for another life is a huge commitment. There can be plenty of issues even on the surface — the family’s budget. For example, according to a Policygenius survey, 45% of parents say they were not financially prepared to have a child. But raising a child is much more than finding the money to feed them and send them to school.

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“When you become a parent, you pretty much have to shed your own self and sense of identity,” Talya Stone said. “You have to become completely selfless and put your children first, and there is a huge part of you that will grieve for the person you were before.”

“You lose yourself for some time, but you do eventually get yourself back. People think they will simply become a parent and just get on with things. The truth is becoming a parent is a painfully steep learning curve. You will be tested to your limits over and over, but then be rewarded by plenty of good times and joy also.”

However, Stone doesn’t think that any mom or dad can ever be fully ready for what’s ahead of them. “Whatever your expectations of parenthood are, it is bound to be completely different. But I would say it’s important to live your life first so that you can be better placed to not resent the sacrifices you make because being a parent is effectively one big sacrifice. Going in with low expectations is my advice!”

While it’s probably impossible to judge InterestingStaff6566 in this exact spot, Stone has huge respect for people who take on others’ children after a sudden tragedy. “I can’t even begin to imagine how their lives would become so different in a blink of an eye. It is certainly a baptism of fire into the world of parenting!”

People thought it was a tough decision but, if anything, OP wasn’t in the wrong

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Beth L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother should stop wasting time with the sister and move on to working with a Christian adoption agency to get the kids placed and transitioned to the idea of "mommy is going to die and you're going to go live with a new mommy and daddy"

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Troux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this is the most practical way out. Foster homes exist for a reason. I hope all of the pro-life advocates are registered to adopt. 🙃

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Nadine Bamberger
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a heartbreaking decision, but I can understand her reasoning. She and her husband are aware they won't be fit parents, the children would suffer for it and it's not like they've already established a close relationship. Maybe the mom should take time to look for people who'd be glad to take them in and give them a home instead of pressuring someone into a role that's just not a good fit. NTA

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Diane Knight
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like the comment about the mom looking at the church to be a source of parent(s). She'd have a reasonable assurance that the children would be given the upbringing she wants for them. The sister could start/keep in touch with the children as an aunt to bridge the gap of who mom was and the family that exists for a connection. Like great-grandparents and cousins that are around. The children are not at fault here, so there's no need to punish them, just include them as you would have if your sister was closer in age and she had a solid marriage. Otherwise the woman does look a bit of an A.H.

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DDmaybeandor
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanna know about sister’s friends. Where do they get off? I don’t understand the logic as a friend. Who would be like, “It’s best to ship them off to a country they haven’t been to with a person they don’t know and a language they don’t understand directly after their mom dies”, rather than saying “It’s best if I take them myself, as your friend”. If that’s not a valid option as someone who knows them, why would it be a valid option for someone who’s never met them? Just stupid.

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Francisco Manuel Teruel Gutiérrez
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well... I don't know what to say, and I can't live other people lives... but I would take the children with me.

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Otter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course, many people would. But I wouldn't, like the OP I don't consider myself to be adequate parent/guardian material. That's also a valid choice, that puts the welfare of the children as the top priority.

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Zoe's Mom
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a tough one but I understand. I took in 2 of my 5 nephews after I turned in my sister to CPS. The other 3 were older and on their own. I'm glad I did it as she got herself together but honestly, I hated it. I was so glad when they were able to go back to her. I too, never wanted kids.

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Ace Girl
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Such a sad situation, I hope the kids get the love and care they need. NTA, but I also feel sad for the terminally ill mother. I can't imagine what it is like trying to make sure your kids will be cared for after your inevitable death. Heartbreaking.

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Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heartbreaking to say the least. The children are left to suffer the consequences.

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Foxxy (The Original)
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, It's a life changing decision that could destroy her marriage, that's not fair on her. She has chosen not to have children and guilt tripping her into taking them will just cause resentment towards the kids. Yes of course it is extremely sad for those children but she is no more responsible for them like anyone else.

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Lola
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Completely agree, but sometimes life requires you to make decisions that you were not prepared for. I would simply do it for the sake of the children.

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Gaby Almodovar
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course, NTA. Very sad, that a young woman is terminally ill, but the consequences of her actions can't be pressed to be taken by somebody else, even she is a family-member. It's just the cherry, that the sister was cheating on her husband, and was idiot enough not to use protection, while she is "religious".

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Wistiti
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you ignore that they are siblings, as OP says, they are practically strangers. I don't think I'd ask strangers to take my children if I was dying. But seeing as she won't or can't ask her friends.... that says a lot about her. I feel sorry for the kids. I'm glad I'm not in OP's shoes. It's a tough decision.

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Anna Banana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd say they're less close than strangers. Stranger implies neutrality. I'd argue that it's an active decision to go from sisters to basically strangers. You may lose touch with childhood friends, but it's quite something to completely lose touch with your siblings. Sorry, I don't know if I'm explaining this right.

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SBW71
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why don't all her friends who are calling and leaving nasty messages adopt them then? If they are such good friends of her sister they should be the ones to step up and help out. Just because you are blood doesn't mean it automatically has to be you to take them in

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unwanted children know they're not wanted. NTA. Fostering can be nasty, so ideally, the mother needs to look for someone to adopt them besides a sister who won't want them. I'd never want my kids (if i had 'em) to go to someone who didn't *want* them!

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Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The situation must be very desperate if the mother is resorting to her sister.

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Bryn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So the friends will leave nasty voicemails but won't volunteer to adopt the kids?

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Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At the end of the day, you are left with three orphaned children, and that it absolutely heartbreaking. The adults involved here are so messed up in so many ways, and the children don’t deserve a bit of it. I hope that they find loving families and get a fair chance at life. My heart breaks for them.

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Karl Baxter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Perfectly understandable. I am pretty much estranged from my siblings and would certainly not take in any kids they had as, apart from being blood relatives, there is no connection or obligation whatsoever - let alone strict conditions being laid down. Better she looks to her supposedly “Christian” friends for support. There’s never been a more BS phrase than blood being thicker than water.

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Cathy Poe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just the fact that it would end her marriage is enough not to take the children. Her & her husband agreed from the beginning not to have kids. She deserves to live her life being happy with her husband. The rest only makes it clearer that she is not obligated to care for these kids.

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Jennifer Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m severely disabled but I would take the kids. I couldn’t bear it not knowing what would happen to them. The fathers and/or the ex should be the one to step up but if not I would do it in a heartbeat. I’m not calling her an AH but I just can’t imagine feeling the way she does.

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Suzi Q
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You must be prepared in other ways to care for 3 kids Jennifer. I'm severely disabled myself. I would never be able to care for 3 kids as taking care of myself is a full time job sometimes. I'm also a caregiver for my mother who has dementia. I'm struggling with that.

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Dre Mosley
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Interesting that she wants to insist on the kids being raised Christian when all of her kids are the products of adultery.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She may have recently become religious. Also, her choices for her children may be a desire to give them a better grounding.

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Kelly Boekhout
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's really easy for people to call her TA when it's not their lives that would be ruined. People who choose to be CF do it for a reason. The sister should have made arrangements with people who would take her kids instead of dumping them on a sister she doesn't even know we'll enough to know that she has mental health issues. It's a wildly unfair situation for everyone involved, mostly the kids, but it's not her problem

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Rena Sudak
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a tragic story. Anyone who tries to make you feel guilty should be the ones going to a lawyer so THEY can adopt your sister's children. Something that you could do is get in touch with resources in your county to find out what the best possible options are that are available to children after a single parent dies. There are resources out there, someone just has to do the research. Your sister needs a social worker assigned to her that could help navigate this challenge. Upon her death, and maybe while she is still alive, social security will provide monthly benefits for each child until they are 18 years old. Also, they are probably eligible for medicaid until they are 18 years old. For people heaping guilt, i would let them know that they are now on a committee to help find these hidden resources and need to spend their personal time researching and making phone calls to help find all the hidden resources available to the children while mom is still alive and after she passes.

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William Childress
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't blame you, I believe that when she stopped talking to you she lost the right to ask anything of you. Some people never look further down the road than tomorrow. I, personally, don't want children and never have. I would take my sisters kids, but we're close. It's different... You're completely in your right to say no.

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Vira
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If these friends care so much to call and harass a stranger into taking the kids, why aren't they taking the kids, themselves? Sharing DNA doesn't mean we are obligated to take on our close relative's problems.

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Marisol Foronda
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have adopted two of my sister's children and it has been and continues to be rough terrain to tread. I never married and have been doing it alone. If I could go back in time and had another chance to choose, I would still do it. My boys are my life. However, I never understand when others feel they can pressure anyone else into having kids, or taking other's kids. I think that if a person wants to, no matter how adverse the situation, it can work out. If the person doesn't want to or can't -no matter what the reason, it is a good enough reason to not do it.

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Sarah Turney
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As sad as it is for these children she does not owe her life to them.

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Lovin' Life
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is heartbreaking. I took on 2 children from my family and do not regret it, but it was hard. I barely knew them. They had a very difficult life and was much different than my own children. I had to teach them respect, manner, rules, consequences, etc. It was really hard but we survived. OP had to make a decision and is definitely NTA. I do hope the children can stay together in a loving home.

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S
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went into this thinking I'd be in favor of the sister rather than the OP but I've since changed my mind. NTA.

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John Baker
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sweet Jebus, some of these comments. The self-righteousness is so thick you could cut it with a knife. Raising kids is a huge responsibility and a huge expense, not to mention it's often a thankless job. It isn't something anyone has the right to force onto someone who doesn't want it. And I'm betting that at least half of these nimrods going on about how "the OP is the @sshole and I'd take the kids" would do no such thing if it actually came down to it. Any takers?

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steampunk dandelion
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

to all of you saying op is an a*****e or just one upping yourself by saying "I have this and this problem but I'd still adopt the kids, not calling her an a*****e tho" how about you start accusing the father of being an a*****e? he's known the kids for their whole lives— so why should op, a woman with mental disabilities who wishes to remain child free due to them, adopt the kids? don't call yourself better than her. life a day in her shoes

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GlitterQueen541
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA and she should not have to explain her mental illness to anyone as a reason why. That is not something she should be required to do for people to honor her choice!

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bugsway Frisk
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Obviously your sister has no right asking for such a big favor even if you are related, under the circumstances.. As for the father I completely understand what he must feel like to see other men in the eyes of the children he did not bare, and for her (so-called) friends if there's such good friends of hers, why aren't they adopting these children? I love children I could never walk away from them no matter who children they belong to, but that's my choice and I have no right or moral high ground to criticize anyone who feels they cannot be up to the task. As for all the guilt makers shame on you! You're all probability a whole bunch of lonely antiabortionists anyway... 🙄

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Angela Mccar
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they were married when all three children were born, then they are legally his until proven otherwise and he would also be responsible for child support until he proves otherwise. I've heard cases where men had to pay 18 plus years and could not prove it or courts threw the case out. I didn't hear about the husband taking a DNA tests for the kids, just because she cheated doesn't mean he didn't father anyone unless he found out he couldn't have children.

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Ivana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a terrible situation. I would take my sister's child if needed but she has one and we are close. If it were one of my half siblings I didn't grow up with, I wouldn't. Someone who knows the mother more would be a better fit, but not many people are going to take in three kids.

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RandomBeing
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If there is nobody else to help she could try to help find them a different home but she have no obligation (I mean she lives in a different country so likely she couldn't be that helpful). In fact NOT adopting them is the responsible decision. Adopting them would be awful for her and the kids.

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Anna Banana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is hearbreaking but completely understandable. The OP refuses to turn her life completely upside down and start living the life of somebody else, the kind of life she's never wanted. We only have one life each, and hers would effectively be over as she knows it, and not hers anymore. I can't imagine somebody sweeping in and telling me that from now on I'm gonna lose agency over the way my own life is going. I'm getting anxious just thinking about it.

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Debb
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a wise woman who recognizes she cannot parent. Good luck to you all.

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Anet Marc
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely NOT the a*****e. I would *only* want to leave my children to someone who thoroughly enjoys being around children. A LOT. And that person could be *anyone*. I don't care whether it's a sister, a cousin, a friend or the nice woman at the dry cleaners down the street. What the hell does DNA have to do with ANY of this? What are we doing here -- preserving a royal bloodline? Here's a hypothetical: What if, instead, this dying woman DID find a loving home perfect for her children and the arrangements were all in place. But then suddenly the children's aunt came along and demanded that the children be given to her and claimed that being a biological relative gave her the RIGHT to the children? Even if that aunt had always wanted children she has no right to take them. Nor does she have a duty to take them. WTF, folks.

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Darlene Fierro
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. #1. She owes no one a reason why she doesn't want to. Some people just don't want to be parents. There is nothing wrong with that. Not everyone suddenly grows a maternal/paternal bone when faced with children. They can appreciate and love a friend's or family members children but call a hard pass when it goes beyond that. #2 She's offered to find the father's. Why is the mother against this? Prob bc the father's are husband's to some of the friends whom she is not asking to take in her children. #3 She wants her children raised religiously. Something she herself has fallen short of. But she knows so little of her sister that she does not know her sister is an atheist. What if they were ped or sex traffickers. I mean that sister knows nothing of the people she is asking to take in her children. She just assumes they are the best choice bc they are related. Lastly being a parent isn't a 18yr job. It's a lifetime that may eventually include grandkids etc. OP is nta!

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Heather G
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly was on the fence on this one. I was taken in by my aunt and uncle and being with family or friends is so much healthier for kids then the very broken foster system some people suggested. That being said, she mentioned mental illness and not knowing the kids. It could be just as much a risk having her raise them as a foster parent (don't know as I've not been in the system). So she might have made the right choice for those kids. Unsure.

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howdylee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why would you want to find the children's fathers? They've been absent to this point, it seems a much better option to keep the siblings together in a home that wants them.

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Anna Banana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless they end up in the system, from where it's 50/50 whether they will ever end up in a good home. The fathers likely don't even know they are fathers, they might very well be happy about this. Or have family members who would like to take on this responsibility. Of course, that's also 50/50. In general I agree with the people who say that finding a good family for them within the church seems like the most sensible option.

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KM
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. It's an absolute hail mary for your sister to ask. I've seen people disagree in the comments but I get the feeling it really is a "die without guilt" request. Your not her guardian angel though.

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Random Anon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. I would have done the same with absolutely no guilt at all. No need for any reasoning as well. My life, my choices.

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StepOnMe1986
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been in a similar situation. My sister who's an addict left her husband and 3 kids for over 2 months one time. She hit the streets and left hubby with all responsibility. I was asked by her husband to help out with them, which I did. Babysitting when I could and helping when I could. Then it came down to her husband wanting to move in with us because he couldn't do it all on his own. Keep in mind I have 4 kids of my own and I ended up letting him know I couldn't help anymore. Because I felt like it was to much and I knew all of it would have been put off on me. Because he worked and I would have taken over the motherly duties out of natural instincts as a mom already. I just didn't want to be put in that position. I feel extremely guilty for handling it the way I did. I often think I should have done more. Yet I knew if I did, the negative effect it would have had on me mentally and emotionally scared the crap out of me. So I bailed and struggle with guilt about it to this day. Even though I put myself 1st and made the best choice I could. It sucks having feelings of guilt over something that was not my fault to begin with. I'm happy to say my sister and her family are happy healthy and got through all those hard times. So that's definitely something to be grateful about.

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Marla Maye
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the poster and their spouse already decided to never have kids for reasons of their own temperaments, mental health, etc, that's a serious decision that wouldn't be overridden by this situation.

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Katerina Huskova
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm glad I grew up in a family that will never ever let kids to end up lonely in a kind of orphanage or foster home. No matter what has happedned among the adults.

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Hugo Correia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are on the right. Even if not for all the other reasons, you have a choice. Also, pretty awful of your sister to send in her flying monkeys while badmouthing you.

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ChickyChicky
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get her reasoning and ultimately she doesn't feel fit to be the mother of these kids. But she also seems to have zero compassion for the kids. It seems like she's just consumed with anger at her sister. For the kid's sake, could she and the friends all get together to help the kids, even if it just means she stays in contact with them via letters or something? The kids didn't choose any of this.

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Clara
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The kids are literal strangers to her. They've never met, they'd have to move country and she has mental health issues to boot. Also, she would go from happily married to a single parent so would have to adjust to these 3 kids whilst getting a divorce caused by them. Simply awful position to be in. Secondly, by your thinking, you and everyone else should adopt a few refugees because otherwise you clearly have no compassion for children in shitty situations. See how crazy that sounds? She's not the A, the sister is. I feel sorry for the kids but that said, I won't be adopting them either...

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Marian Moore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The so called "friends" should step up and take the kids. They are hypocrites by saying you should take the kids. If they are so worried about the kids, then they should step up. I am on the side of the sister that says she won't take them. I knew someone who turned down her son and his wife, because they couldn't take care of their special needs children(2 children). She and her husband said they could not afford to take their grandchildren. I totally understood where they were coming from. They got dissed because they refused but they stuck to their guns. They knew what was right for them. Just like this sister knows what is right for her and her husband. She is not an AH, Her sister is though.

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Jerry Conaway
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Judgement for the Defendent - that woman doesn't owe her estranged sister anything. It would be different if the family had been close, if the sister had pledged beforehand to look after the children if anything happened. But given what is told here (there is always two sides to the story) the estranged sister cared nothing but for herself, and only reached out when she got in a tight, expecting to easily be able to dump her f-trophies on the easiest people she thought she could sucker - her family. Oh, and let me throw this out there - if you and your husband talked and he said he would leave you if you adopted the children, then you may have other problems coming down the road. Think real long and hard before having a child or getting sick around that guy.

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Matthias Lee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, she made a rational choice. no bond with kids, an old broken relationship with sister, different religious view, not enough financial income, foreign country, own health issues and views of children all of those would have nixed her chances with adoption agency in the first place. Dont know if Only family relation is good enough.

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Craig Reynolds
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. They are not your kids or your responsibility in any way. Family is NOT a mandatory obligation. It is something you have no control over because you cannot choose it but you can certainly choose how to engage with it. Those kids are no more your responsibility than those that people abandon outside of fire stations. Do NOT feel guilty. Do NOT feel anything. You owe your sister NOTHING because blood means NOTHING. You get to choose your friends based on your values. Family is forced upon you. Abandon it for your own sanity.

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Marla Maye
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The kids need DNA tests so the bio dad's families can find them if they are interested. The bio dad's might not be good people, but what if the bio dads have a sibling who's been on a wait list for 10 years trying to adopt or have gone through failed IVF etc and run out of $ and hope. The bio dads could be the bad apples in otherwise good families. The court will probably make her submit DNA for this and if the mom refuses, it will probably be done after her death.

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Suzi Q
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just because they are related doesn't mean that you are the only one who should take them. I hope the response to those "friends" calling and criticizing is, "why don't you take them then." It's easy to criticize but you are the least of anyone who should take them because of the reasons given. She should turn to her church family and friends to help. It's a very sad situation.

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Lara Verne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Kids don't deserve this fate, but your sister's children are not your responsibility.

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Saint Lynnie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother should definitely find another option and quickly because if CPS steps in, they'll be split up and I wouldn't trust CPS to take care of a goldfish let alone children... It's a bad situation all around and I feel badly for the kids. They are the ones that will suffer the most through this, especially being so young. Hopefully a living family will take care of them

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FrancesCat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sister is too young, clearly, to raise three children that will be coming out of nowhere. (I know plenty of 25yos are parents of 3 kids but this sister isn't them.) I think it's great she's willing to help track down the fathers, but she should be careful; they might be worse human beings than a foster family.

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Kimi Tomminello
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe if they (the sisters) were close and the sis had the means to care for the children asking would make sense but who tf asks someone that isn't religious, lives in a completely different country and hasn't talked to them in 10 years to raise their kids when they are very religious and most likely attend church groups with women that would most likely adore being able to raise a child? Who asks a casual long distance acquaintance to parent their child?!

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Andrei Caldararu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except for the language thing, she has perfectly valid reasons. Also, a kid - let alone 3 - is a huge responsibility and she's under no obligation to take it on, nor should she have to justify why.

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Chastity Embick
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family is split apart and its every man for himself. I have 3 half siblings that I havent seen since I was 6 years old. If they suddenly tried to contact me out of nowhere and said that I need to take their kids in, I would shut the door in their faces. You can't ignore someone's existence for decades and, then be like "hey do me a favour". Especially taking over their parenting. It sucks for the kids but that's life.

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A Jones
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yeah, NTA. It's not her fault her sister didn't consider a godparent in advanced. It should be one of the first things to consider if they had a kid (regardless of intended/unintended).

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Vanities
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are plenty of Christian adoption agencies. The worst part is that there is a father out there who could at anytime swoop back in a demand his children. The courst will grant the kids to him. Crack and meth heads do this all the time.

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Kimberly Wiltshire
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Impossible situation, but really not your responsibility. Anyone giving you hell isnt going to be as diligent as they claim you should be under the same circumstances. That you and your husband have made the choice you have is a sign of responsibility. I grew up in a house with resentful parents that had me because accodents. Im my case it was not a happy ending, quite the opposite. Being blood related is not a winning combination by default. Its a tragic situation, but not your duty. Sorry that all of you have to go through this.

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Hannah Edwards
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why on earth would the dying sister want to ask a virtual stranger to adopt her children anyway? Kind of sad that the children may end up in the system and separated, but still might be better than to be be with a relative who doesn’t want them. Poor kids.

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gellert gridlewald
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

not the a hole. It's their life, they get to choose what to do with it.

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Libstak
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you are not going to be invested in being the parent these kids deserve why would you agree to take them on? Definitely NTA, quite the opposite. There is time before the mother passes for a host of community attention , especially from the church. There is good opportunity to find a suitable placement for these kids with care givers who want them and will love them.

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Troux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Finding the fathers relies on the sister's information and consent...is there any legal recourse to force this out? Not that she would have any reason to fear the law while she's on her deathbed, but I would think there should be laws in place to exhaust every effort to find a parent or guardian before adding kids to the system.

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Bex
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not with an Ancestry. You can find that half of Thier family tree as long as someone closely related enough has had it done and allowed matches. Matches don't give out personal information (unless you set it up that way) but allow you to contact that family branch and ask if you can communicate through the app.

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Louise Anderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I noticed you said all her friends are leaving nasty messages about you refusing (rightfully so) to adopt her children. but not one of them have jumped In themselves to adopt, hypocritical a-holes.

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Valerie Witter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - I think your sister was basically a stranger to you, you had made a life decision to not ever have children, your husband had also and would leave if you changed the plan at this point, and with your OCD issue, you have many reasons not to take the children into your home. She he probably has friends closer to her than you. It’s said that they could possibly go into the system, but not a good thing for you to take them.

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Peta Hurley-Hill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hopefully, the poor dying mother can find someone mature enough to step in for her kids .Her sister is obviously not that person .I'd say they wouldn't have a very nice life with her anyway. My sister is 6 yrs older than me,we are not close, however had she needed me to step in when her children were young, I would not have hesitated. And yes ,I have also been a foster parent.Hopefully, the mother's friends or church (something ,as a atheist ,I would never usually advocate) can find a loving family who will keep the children together.I find it odd that this woman is so pious yet the children are all the result of apparent infidelity .Sound more like an excuse for the husband to shuck all responsibility. There are many families out there who would love a ready made family. The already overburdened foster system should be a last resort. Those poor little kids are about to lose their whole world, but would have a miserable life with their aunt and frankly deserve better.

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Craig Reynolds
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Not her kids and she doesn't want kids anyway. Just because it's her sister changes nothing. Even if she had kept contact it still would not matter. You cannot force children on someone that made the choice to never have them.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can see the reasons why the OP doesn't want to, but i don't think I could live with myself in the same situation if I didn't take them in. Even though she hasn't met them she is the closest family they have. Screw raising them religious though, raise them how you want.

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Peggy Brooks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I will have these poor little kids. They aren’t at fault, they didn’t ask to be put in this situation. I would gladly take them and love them as though they were my own. Please let me know if they have found somewhere safe and loving. 🥲

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Donna Zgoda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ll adopt them. And, as an adoptee and an adoptive parent, I know there are many childless couples who would gladly adopt them. I wish those 3 sweet babies much luck and love.

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Olivia St. John
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It takes a lot of courage to say No. The mother should stop sending friends to abuse her sister. She should spend that energy finding a friend who will raise her children. And, she should forgive her little sister for not being pliable as playdough. People are rarely so flexible in reality.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Probably best that someone who doesn't want them not take them. That being said, I had an AMAZING BOSS once. His father was murdered from a drug deal gone wrong when he was only 20 years old. This amazing man, and his girlfriend, took in his three younger siblings! At 20 years old, there's no way I was responsible enough to do that. MAD A** RESPECT FOR HIM AND HIS WOMAN!

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ewa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have four kids and am seriously ill. Still, of course I would not hesitate to take my sisters kids (or my brither's) - duh- I would take the kids of my neighbors if they'd need a home. If she does not feel like a parent, fair enough, take them in to make sure they find a proper home. One can look after them, to make sure they are alright, even if they do not live with them - and who knows, maybe they'll like them and take them home anyway. For young parents: this is the reason for why you look for people who Are willing to take your kids while you are well and hire a solicitor to make everything legally. We have this for our four kids!

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Julie McLean
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She s under no obligation to take her sister’s children, morally, emotionally or ethically. Her and her sister have not been in contact for ten years. Her and her husband made the decision to not have children, kudos to them. To put three children into a home that does not really want them would be tragic. If the sister is religious then she needs to explore that avenue. There are a lot of loving people out there who would love to give them a home.

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Gyanna
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the kids are gonna be miserable I can have so many issues trust issues abandonment his shoes family issues a lot of rage towards Their family But it's her choice

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Rei
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aren't there tons of couples out there who would gladly take all three children because they can't have their own biological ones?

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Enlee Jones
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is right. She owes nothing to her sister and the kids are not her responsibility.

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Kayla J
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP should not have to take in children especially considering she is dealing with her own issues and overall perhaps it is best considering she seems to be holding blame from the sister onto them. The kids are about to have their lives seriously messed up through no fault of their own, possibly even being raised in different families because people tend to look for newborns instead of 6 year olds. I understand why she judges her sister's actions, but I feel like perhaps there is more to this story than what one sister who seems to be holding a huge grudge has to offer. Also, I hate these AITA posts cause she seems less wanting to know and more so just kicking her sister while she is down. She knows the decision she is going to make, she is not going to take the children in no matter what, what was the point of this?

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Me coinage in this post like WHAT AN ARSEHOLE now I’m like damn I feel you.

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Ashley Lynne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh mixed feelings on this one- they're still your blood relatives and family is important. Maybe help her find someone to take them in? I mean if they were my nieces and nephews - I'd at least want to make sure they were taken care of. I totally understand the point- and don't think you're an a*****e but just feel bad for the children

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are there maternal grandparents? Maybe they can provide care, until the fathers are found.

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Buzz Anderson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Either way this isa very sad and tragic situation for the kids. As for the sister: For someone you did not have any contact with for 10 years you sure do know a LOT about her. Or that the kids are one night stands so to speak and you know they are all from different fathers. HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ALL THAT WITH NO CONTACT. And the ex KNOWS none of the kids are his. Obviously short of both her and her former husband being white, and the kids are black or other color how does HE know they are not his. I think she is an a*****e but not because she won't take the kids but reading her comments, that is how she cone across. BUT sadly she is right. Not her responsibility. The dying mother should have made a highly publicized plea to the public for someone to step forward.

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KimB
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This OP got on my nerves at the end...literally asking people if she's an a-hole and then getting insulted that some think she is.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just feel badly for the kids. The sister can't be bothered to give a crap about her nibling and the mom is determined that the sister take them in. I can understand the mom wanting family to take the kids in but said family can't be bothered. It's highly doubtful the sister would treat them well even if she did stir herself to take them. "Foster care" has a terrible reputation for a reason; maybe the mom should find someone at her church to take them.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That’s a lot to unpack. I understand her not wanting to take on kids that aren’t hers, but I guess I couldn’t imagine abandoning them either. I guess I would insist on finding the fathers even if it was out of my own pocket.

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Anna Banana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's a bit unfair to say she is abandoning them. They are not her responsibility to abandon.

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Nikki H
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why ask if you're the ah if you have determined that you are justified in your decision? Internet input is not needed for the furtherance of your life unless you doubt your decision.

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Bj Burns
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she knows she can't love or care them, it's best that she won't take them. But why be so vicious about it? They're better off with a 50/50 chance in any system than a 💯 chance of being rasied by a cold & vindictive aunt.

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I'm so annoyed reading this. So you don't wan tthe children neither does your husband. And they are so much better off without you. They have a s**t start to life already. They will Be better without you lookin after them you better get off your ass and do the right thing by your sister regardless if you like her or not. First calmy and nicely tell her how you would be a s**t mother. The children deserve better. And help the woman find a nice family and for f**k sake don't split them up. Get her to talk and do this together and at least promise the woman you will always look out for them and be in touch. Or would that be too much trouble for you??? MAke absoloutly certain they are not treated like puppies in a pack and sent off to different homes. All the woman wants is for them to be together with some family when she's gone.you would do that with your dog. Wake up woman and be helpful..... Using u as a ticket out of dying.???how you need a slap for saying that. Like she can help it

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I would adopt the kids, if they're related to me that's sufficient for me to not having them rolling around

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Yah my high horse is filled with my own children I had on purpose and I took on my craxy ex wifes kids (4 of them between 3 sperm donors who basically dont exist) and now my fiancés 3 daughters who live with their dad most of the time. EVERYONE now thinks they have OCD, and no you dont lose your sense of self or identity. I spent my teen years and 20s around my nieces and nephews before having 3 of my own. It was like I was the Uncle/nanny as I am basically a baby whisperer. as a full time parent I do what ever I want and still raise my children, they get to an age where they do their own thing and you feed and clothe them. Its like when your in your 20s with room mates

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NTA, but she is acting like one. Why ask if yta if you refuse to believe that you are? Sounds like she just wants a bunch of people to call her mature and her sister unreasonable. It's not unreasonable to ask family to take in your children after they die, like at all. Not saying it's unreasonable for her to say no, but it's reasonable for her sister to be upset.

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Hm...I can understand the decision but I don't like the original reasoning. Who cares with whom the sister did or did not sleep with? She's a single mom and has three children. Also: These are the OPs nieces and nephews. She would owe it to THEM to raise them, not to her sister. But if she is not able to raise kids because she does not have the resources (mental and otherwise) then she is not able to raise kids. It really is that simple.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How does she owe it to the nieces/nephews? She didn't ask her sister to procreate.

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Some people are not meant for being parents. Putting them in the system might not be worse than living with their aunt. Who knows how she would end up treating them I'll be at unintentionally because of the way she is.

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The sister's husband is TAH. I can't understand how he could raise a child for 6 years, a 2 year old and then a baby and not feel for any of them. It's not the child's fault, and it's not DNA that makes you a parent. If he won't take them, then her friends in the church should.

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Troux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's an ex-husband, not a husband. There's no telling how long he was around the kids, or if he met them at all.

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For the question of "why don't you just go adopt? Get off your high horse": I would, but 1, I'm not old enough to adopt, and it's an expensive process, and 2, I'd get off my high horse but I'm scared I'll fall XD.

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wait wait wait... Did people actually vote NOT ah on this one? WTF??? Person does not owe her sister anything, but children are literally her only family!!! People do take care of their families. What the actual f*ck?

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This is so sad. She says her sister was mean to her, well thats what kids do to eachother, ALL siblings. That's not a reason to shun her as an adult. She probably wants family to raise them, regardless of who the fathers are, she is still the aunt, the only family member left alive which makes total sense for her to ask. If it was me I would take the kids. While the OP can make any decision she likes, it does make her look like a terrible person. If her husband would leave her over something like this he is also a terrible human being so i guess they deserve eachother

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John Dough
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Smug and self righteous to the end. All you prove is that you are the a*****e.

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Is op an a*hole...yes. should she raise her sister's kids...hell no. The kids don't deserve the treatment they would be sure to receive in her house. I shall call OP "Petunia"

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Why go on to AITA if you are just going to tell people to F-Off if they say you are the A-hole? She has every right to not want to take the kids and plenty of valid reasons but she sure sounds like a jerk. And the husband has already told her he would leave if she took on the kids? I would be questioning my marriage no matter what decision I already made.

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No one is to blame..it's just that if it was some 60s or 70s. This sh** would have been different. It's just that we've become independent and the fkng system won't accommodate having a life with 3 unplanned kids. I feel sorry that siblings have to go through having to measure who owes who. It's just that we've been more selfish than we ought to be. It's still no one to blame except our situation. We're not doing to family what we'd even do for strangers a couple decades back. What an irony.

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A simple movie like Raising Helen says it all...yes in the movie she was close with her sister but she was also in a position where she wasn't even thinking about children with single and had never even thought about having children was in a great position in her life where she was happy and thriving and in a heartbeat everything changed not just for her but for the kids as well. As good as it gets is another great movie to take advice from may not have kids but he did have to take care of a dog and he had the extensive type of OCD to were even the dog that he was taking care of started acting like him. Sometimes we are put in situations that we may not think we can handle or at that moment we can be kind of stubborn and say there is no way that will ever happen but the world is a funny place and there is purpose whether or not you believe in God,multiple gods and goddesses, the devil or nothing at All. Her life may change but maybe for the best....

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Poor Kids. Somehow they need their biology.... and they need to stay together...

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Biology is unimportant, a loving family is all that matters. Source: I am adopted

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A narcissist and an atheist. Poor kids never had a chance.

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Llama King
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They didn't have a chance because of their a*****e of a mother. It would be worse for both OP and the kids for her to adopt them, for reasons stated by OP.

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NTA There is a lot of bitterness and anger towards your sister and your sister she still is. All that bad stuff that happen Ed between the two of you and now she has the audacity to die on you... You are mad as hell and you have every right to be. I just wanted you to know you are doing the right thing for these kids. All the bad blood aside, they deserve a mom and dad who really love them. You recognized very clearly that you could not be that mum and your husband is not that dad. I say again, you are doing the right thing. Don't you dare feeling guilty after your sister's death You are NTH. Her husband is a huge one because he hides behind the she was a s**t and they are possibly not his kids. I imagine that he changed diapers for at least to of them and was a dad to them for a few years. That makes him a huge AH in my book The second AH in this story is your husband. To put you under pressure and threaten to leave you should you decide otherwise is uncalled for, to say the least.

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Marla Maye
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If poster's husband chose not to have even one of his own kids because he doesn't want kids, he's not obligated to raise 3 that aren't even his. The ill mom's husband also isn't obligated to raise kids he was lied to were his.

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Why did BP only pick the NTA? I'd have loved to hear other perspectives. Smells really biased, as usual here.

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I think she's the AH - but far from the only AH in this situation. Sometimes the choices aren't good versus bad, but a scale of horrible to extremely horrible.

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It's amazing to me how selfish people are today. I took on 4 children at the age of 23 when my mother was incarcerated. Didn't have kids of my own, but could not fathom my siblings being separated and not with me. We live in a very sick world.

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OP telling people to get off their high horse while she herself is arguably on one. Okay then.

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AY1984
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What high horse? She recognized she wouldn't be able to support the kids on her own and she wouldn't be a good guardian to them.

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This f*****g generation summed up right here, NO the Sperm donors who had one night stands with her sister want nothing to do with the very young children and are most likely unfit to suddenly be parents. Yes she is more than an ass hole. I F*****G Hate my older brother and my two younger sisters all forgot everything I did for them while they had young children as I did a lot for all of them, its been like 10 years since Ive talked to any of them but their children arent to blame for their idiot parents. Paul Rudd was in a movie about this except with a Katherine Heigl whom he wasnt dating or even liked and they werent even family. "UHhhh my older sister was mean to me and it was very traumatic so now my nieces and nephews lives are even more f****d and ACTUALLY traumatic as they grow up with zero family and most likely split as I have admitted to wanting to do"

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Pezor Zass
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this post makes you sound unhinged, and that makes it hard to take what you say seriously.

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Yes, the ass. Maybe, if she cannot physically take the kids she could help find suitable adopters...be their guardian ad libum...make sure they are well cared for, be in their lives. Otherwise she is horrid and will die alone and lonely

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Potato
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Alone? Nah, her husband was only going to leave if she adopted. The a*****e is the person who actually thinks this is her responsibility.

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Yes, you are the a*****e. You're still family to these children, even if you've never met them. Clearly your sister still trusts you if she asks this of you on her death bed. Not the life you'd wanted, but I dont think your sister has always dreamt of dying of cancer. You woman up and you take the kids and do the best you can.

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I.understand her reasoning I think. But. The children are the victims. Would she be a worse mom than foster care where they will likely be split up. I think she is the AH. Sometimes in life you have to pull up your boot straps and do what's right. Those poor kids in foster care...that's not right. Get a therapist, get a babysitter, and give those babies a chance at life.

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The Patmann
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Therapists and babysitters cost money, so does the rest of the child care stuff, she'd be going at it alone, and even if her husband wouldn't leave her, they don't have the money for it

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Rather than seeing them placed into foster care or sent to an orphanage, I would take the children. I would also locate the father's somehow and sue them for support.

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BigAssBitch
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She has many reasons why she cannot. Plus, suddenly taking in children would mean making them trust you, changing your relationship with your spouse, and paying for them. Overall, it is a big commitment

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I'm sorry OP is still an a*****e and so is her husband for saying he would leave. That's her flesh and blood and there is no way my innocent flesh and blood would be thrown into the system. How about breaking some vicious cycles of heartless women in her family? Starting with her? I get it, she can't because her sister was so mean, OCD, she cheated. Looks like she held a major grudge against her sister and finally stuck it to her on her deathbed. No, I would not be pleased or prepared but I would use that chance to make amends with my sister instead of being so cold to her in her last days. People really do suck.

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Bj Burns
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of she knows she can't love them, it's best that she won't take them. But why be so vicious about it. They're better off with a 50/50 chance in any system than a 💯 chance of being rasied by a disinterested & vindictive aunt

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YTA, the contempt for her sister just drips from this letter. She finally get to punish her sister and the well being of the kids doesn’t matter at all.

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meme lord
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

no. it's not Ops responsibility to take care of kids that aren't theirs, plus it would ruin their mental health, and have a guardian that only keeps you there because you're related really sucks, and it sucks more when their mental health is shitty and you have a newborn sibling

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YTA, but you are right that the kids would be better off with someone that wants them. obviously not you. It sounds like you feel superior and these children as unwanted products of your sisters affairs. They are more than that and i hope they find a nice person to love them. obviously not you.

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AY1984
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Op has no obligation to take on children she doesn't even know. She stated she wouldn't be able to support them because her husband would leave. She NEVER wanted children, people who do t want children usually don't for a reason. She has already acknowledged she wouldn't be a good mother.

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meme lord
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"How dare you not take care of children that arent yours that are also from a completely different country that belong to your sister that you haven't talked to in ten years?!'

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Beth L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother should stop wasting time with the sister and move on to working with a Christian adoption agency to get the kids placed and transitioned to the idea of "mommy is going to die and you're going to go live with a new mommy and daddy"

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Troux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think this is the most practical way out. Foster homes exist for a reason. I hope all of the pro-life advocates are registered to adopt. 🙃

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Nadine Bamberger
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a heartbreaking decision, but I can understand her reasoning. She and her husband are aware they won't be fit parents, the children would suffer for it and it's not like they've already established a close relationship. Maybe the mom should take time to look for people who'd be glad to take them in and give them a home instead of pressuring someone into a role that's just not a good fit. NTA

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Diane Knight
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like the comment about the mom looking at the church to be a source of parent(s). She'd have a reasonable assurance that the children would be given the upbringing she wants for them. The sister could start/keep in touch with the children as an aunt to bridge the gap of who mom was and the family that exists for a connection. Like great-grandparents and cousins that are around. The children are not at fault here, so there's no need to punish them, just include them as you would have if your sister was closer in age and she had a solid marriage. Otherwise the woman does look a bit of an A.H.

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DDmaybeandor
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanna know about sister’s friends. Where do they get off? I don’t understand the logic as a friend. Who would be like, “It’s best to ship them off to a country they haven’t been to with a person they don’t know and a language they don’t understand directly after their mom dies”, rather than saying “It’s best if I take them myself, as your friend”. If that’s not a valid option as someone who knows them, why would it be a valid option for someone who’s never met them? Just stupid.

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Francisco Manuel Teruel Gutiérrez
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well... I don't know what to say, and I can't live other people lives... but I would take the children with me.

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Otter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course, many people would. But I wouldn't, like the OP I don't consider myself to be adequate parent/guardian material. That's also a valid choice, that puts the welfare of the children as the top priority.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is a tough one but I understand. I took in 2 of my 5 nephews after I turned in my sister to CPS. The other 3 were older and on their own. I'm glad I did it as she got herself together but honestly, I hated it. I was so glad when they were able to go back to her. I too, never wanted kids.

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Ace Girl
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Such a sad situation, I hope the kids get the love and care they need. NTA, but I also feel sad for the terminally ill mother. I can't imagine what it is like trying to make sure your kids will be cared for after your inevitable death. Heartbreaking.

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Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Heartbreaking to say the least. The children are left to suffer the consequences.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, It's a life changing decision that could destroy her marriage, that's not fair on her. She has chosen not to have children and guilt tripping her into taking them will just cause resentment towards the kids. Yes of course it is extremely sad for those children but she is no more responsible for them like anyone else.

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Completely agree, but sometimes life requires you to make decisions that you were not prepared for. I would simply do it for the sake of the children.

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Gaby Almodovar
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of course, NTA. Very sad, that a young woman is terminally ill, but the consequences of her actions can't be pressed to be taken by somebody else, even she is a family-member. It's just the cherry, that the sister was cheating on her husband, and was idiot enough not to use protection, while she is "religious".

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Wistiti
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you ignore that they are siblings, as OP says, they are practically strangers. I don't think I'd ask strangers to take my children if I was dying. But seeing as she won't or can't ask her friends.... that says a lot about her. I feel sorry for the kids. I'm glad I'm not in OP's shoes. It's a tough decision.

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Anna Banana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'd say they're less close than strangers. Stranger implies neutrality. I'd argue that it's an active decision to go from sisters to basically strangers. You may lose touch with childhood friends, but it's quite something to completely lose touch with your siblings. Sorry, I don't know if I'm explaining this right.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why don't all her friends who are calling and leaving nasty messages adopt them then? If they are such good friends of her sister they should be the ones to step up and help out. Just because you are blood doesn't mean it automatically has to be you to take them in

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Leo Domitrix
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unwanted children know they're not wanted. NTA. Fostering can be nasty, so ideally, the mother needs to look for someone to adopt them besides a sister who won't want them. I'd never want my kids (if i had 'em) to go to someone who didn't *want* them!

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Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The situation must be very desperate if the mother is resorting to her sister.

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Bryn
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

So the friends will leave nasty voicemails but won't volunteer to adopt the kids?

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Lola
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At the end of the day, you are left with three orphaned children, and that it absolutely heartbreaking. The adults involved here are so messed up in so many ways, and the children don’t deserve a bit of it. I hope that they find loving families and get a fair chance at life. My heart breaks for them.

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Karl Baxter
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Perfectly understandable. I am pretty much estranged from my siblings and would certainly not take in any kids they had as, apart from being blood relatives, there is no connection or obligation whatsoever - let alone strict conditions being laid down. Better she looks to her supposedly “Christian” friends for support. There’s never been a more BS phrase than blood being thicker than water.

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Cathy Poe
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just the fact that it would end her marriage is enough not to take the children. Her & her husband agreed from the beginning not to have kids. She deserves to live her life being happy with her husband. The rest only makes it clearer that she is not obligated to care for these kids.

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Jennifer Smith
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’m severely disabled but I would take the kids. I couldn’t bear it not knowing what would happen to them. The fathers and/or the ex should be the one to step up but if not I would do it in a heartbeat. I’m not calling her an AH but I just can’t imagine feeling the way she does.

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Suzi Q
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You must be prepared in other ways to care for 3 kids Jennifer. I'm severely disabled myself. I would never be able to care for 3 kids as taking care of myself is a full time job sometimes. I'm also a caregiver for my mother who has dementia. I'm struggling with that.

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Dre Mosley
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Interesting that she wants to insist on the kids being raised Christian when all of her kids are the products of adultery.

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She may have recently become religious. Also, her choices for her children may be a desire to give them a better grounding.

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Kelly Boekhout
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's really easy for people to call her TA when it's not their lives that would be ruined. People who choose to be CF do it for a reason. The sister should have made arrangements with people who would take her kids instead of dumping them on a sister she doesn't even know we'll enough to know that she has mental health issues. It's a wildly unfair situation for everyone involved, mostly the kids, but it's not her problem

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Rena Sudak
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a tragic story. Anyone who tries to make you feel guilty should be the ones going to a lawyer so THEY can adopt your sister's children. Something that you could do is get in touch with resources in your county to find out what the best possible options are that are available to children after a single parent dies. There are resources out there, someone just has to do the research. Your sister needs a social worker assigned to her that could help navigate this challenge. Upon her death, and maybe while she is still alive, social security will provide monthly benefits for each child until they are 18 years old. Also, they are probably eligible for medicaid until they are 18 years old. For people heaping guilt, i would let them know that they are now on a committee to help find these hidden resources and need to spend their personal time researching and making phone calls to help find all the hidden resources available to the children while mom is still alive and after she passes.

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William Childress
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't blame you, I believe that when she stopped talking to you she lost the right to ask anything of you. Some people never look further down the road than tomorrow. I, personally, don't want children and never have. I would take my sisters kids, but we're close. It's different... You're completely in your right to say no.

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Vira
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If these friends care so much to call and harass a stranger into taking the kids, why aren't they taking the kids, themselves? Sharing DNA doesn't mean we are obligated to take on our close relative's problems.

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Marisol Foronda
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have adopted two of my sister's children and it has been and continues to be rough terrain to tread. I never married and have been doing it alone. If I could go back in time and had another chance to choose, I would still do it. My boys are my life. However, I never understand when others feel they can pressure anyone else into having kids, or taking other's kids. I think that if a person wants to, no matter how adverse the situation, it can work out. If the person doesn't want to or can't -no matter what the reason, it is a good enough reason to not do it.

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Sarah Turney
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As sad as it is for these children she does not owe her life to them.

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Lovin' Life
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is heartbreaking. I took on 2 children from my family and do not regret it, but it was hard. I barely knew them. They had a very difficult life and was much different than my own children. I had to teach them respect, manner, rules, consequences, etc. It was really hard but we survived. OP had to make a decision and is definitely NTA. I do hope the children can stay together in a loving home.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I went into this thinking I'd be in favor of the sister rather than the OP but I've since changed my mind. NTA.

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John Baker
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sweet Jebus, some of these comments. The self-righteousness is so thick you could cut it with a knife. Raising kids is a huge responsibility and a huge expense, not to mention it's often a thankless job. It isn't something anyone has the right to force onto someone who doesn't want it. And I'm betting that at least half of these nimrods going on about how "the OP is the @sshole and I'd take the kids" would do no such thing if it actually came down to it. Any takers?

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steampunk dandelion
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

to all of you saying op is an a*****e or just one upping yourself by saying "I have this and this problem but I'd still adopt the kids, not calling her an a*****e tho" how about you start accusing the father of being an a*****e? he's known the kids for their whole lives— so why should op, a woman with mental disabilities who wishes to remain child free due to them, adopt the kids? don't call yourself better than her. life a day in her shoes

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GlitterQueen541
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA and she should not have to explain her mental illness to anyone as a reason why. That is not something she should be required to do for people to honor her choice!

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bugsway Frisk
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Obviously your sister has no right asking for such a big favor even if you are related, under the circumstances.. As for the father I completely understand what he must feel like to see other men in the eyes of the children he did not bare, and for her (so-called) friends if there's such good friends of hers, why aren't they adopting these children? I love children I could never walk away from them no matter who children they belong to, but that's my choice and I have no right or moral high ground to criticize anyone who feels they cannot be up to the task. As for all the guilt makers shame on you! You're all probability a whole bunch of lonely antiabortionists anyway... 🙄

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Angela Mccar
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If they were married when all three children were born, then they are legally his until proven otherwise and he would also be responsible for child support until he proves otherwise. I've heard cases where men had to pay 18 plus years and could not prove it or courts threw the case out. I didn't hear about the husband taking a DNA tests for the kids, just because she cheated doesn't mean he didn't father anyone unless he found out he couldn't have children.

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Ivana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a terrible situation. I would take my sister's child if needed but she has one and we are close. If it were one of my half siblings I didn't grow up with, I wouldn't. Someone who knows the mother more would be a better fit, but not many people are going to take in three kids.

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RandomBeing
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If there is nobody else to help she could try to help find them a different home but she have no obligation (I mean she lives in a different country so likely she couldn't be that helpful). In fact NOT adopting them is the responsible decision. Adopting them would be awful for her and the kids.

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Anna Banana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is hearbreaking but completely understandable. The OP refuses to turn her life completely upside down and start living the life of somebody else, the kind of life she's never wanted. We only have one life each, and hers would effectively be over as she knows it, and not hers anymore. I can't imagine somebody sweeping in and telling me that from now on I'm gonna lose agency over the way my own life is going. I'm getting anxious just thinking about it.

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Debb
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's a wise woman who recognizes she cannot parent. Good luck to you all.

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Anet Marc
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Definitely NOT the a*****e. I would *only* want to leave my children to someone who thoroughly enjoys being around children. A LOT. And that person could be *anyone*. I don't care whether it's a sister, a cousin, a friend or the nice woman at the dry cleaners down the street. What the hell does DNA have to do with ANY of this? What are we doing here -- preserving a royal bloodline? Here's a hypothetical: What if, instead, this dying woman DID find a loving home perfect for her children and the arrangements were all in place. But then suddenly the children's aunt came along and demanded that the children be given to her and claimed that being a biological relative gave her the RIGHT to the children? Even if that aunt had always wanted children she has no right to take them. Nor does she have a duty to take them. WTF, folks.

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Darlene Fierro
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. #1. She owes no one a reason why she doesn't want to. Some people just don't want to be parents. There is nothing wrong with that. Not everyone suddenly grows a maternal/paternal bone when faced with children. They can appreciate and love a friend's or family members children but call a hard pass when it goes beyond that. #2 She's offered to find the father's. Why is the mother against this? Prob bc the father's are husband's to some of the friends whom she is not asking to take in her children. #3 She wants her children raised religiously. Something she herself has fallen short of. But she knows so little of her sister that she does not know her sister is an atheist. What if they were ped or sex traffickers. I mean that sister knows nothing of the people she is asking to take in her children. She just assumes they are the best choice bc they are related. Lastly being a parent isn't a 18yr job. It's a lifetime that may eventually include grandkids etc. OP is nta!

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Heather G
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I honestly was on the fence on this one. I was taken in by my aunt and uncle and being with family or friends is so much healthier for kids then the very broken foster system some people suggested. That being said, she mentioned mental illness and not knowing the kids. It could be just as much a risk having her raise them as a foster parent (don't know as I've not been in the system). So she might have made the right choice for those kids. Unsure.

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howdylee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why would you want to find the children's fathers? They've been absent to this point, it seems a much better option to keep the siblings together in a home that wants them.

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Anna Banana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Unless they end up in the system, from where it's 50/50 whether they will ever end up in a good home. The fathers likely don't even know they are fathers, they might very well be happy about this. Or have family members who would like to take on this responsibility. Of course, that's also 50/50. In general I agree with the people who say that finding a good family for them within the church seems like the most sensible option.

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KM
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. It's an absolute hail mary for your sister to ask. I've seen people disagree in the comments but I get the feeling it really is a "die without guilt" request. Your not her guardian angel though.

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Random Anon
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. I would have done the same with absolutely no guilt at all. No need for any reasoning as well. My life, my choices.

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StepOnMe1986
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I've been in a similar situation. My sister who's an addict left her husband and 3 kids for over 2 months one time. She hit the streets and left hubby with all responsibility. I was asked by her husband to help out with them, which I did. Babysitting when I could and helping when I could. Then it came down to her husband wanting to move in with us because he couldn't do it all on his own. Keep in mind I have 4 kids of my own and I ended up letting him know I couldn't help anymore. Because I felt like it was to much and I knew all of it would have been put off on me. Because he worked and I would have taken over the motherly duties out of natural instincts as a mom already. I just didn't want to be put in that position. I feel extremely guilty for handling it the way I did. I often think I should have done more. Yet I knew if I did, the negative effect it would have had on me mentally and emotionally scared the crap out of me. So I bailed and struggle with guilt about it to this day. Even though I put myself 1st and made the best choice I could. It sucks having feelings of guilt over something that was not my fault to begin with. I'm happy to say my sister and her family are happy healthy and got through all those hard times. So that's definitely something to be grateful about.

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Marla Maye
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If the poster and their spouse already decided to never have kids for reasons of their own temperaments, mental health, etc, that's a serious decision that wouldn't be overridden by this situation.

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Katerina Huskova
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm glad I grew up in a family that will never ever let kids to end up lonely in a kind of orphanage or foster home. No matter what has happedned among the adults.

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Hugo Correia
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You are on the right. Even if not for all the other reasons, you have a choice. Also, pretty awful of your sister to send in her flying monkeys while badmouthing you.

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ChickyChicky
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I get her reasoning and ultimately she doesn't feel fit to be the mother of these kids. But she also seems to have zero compassion for the kids. It seems like she's just consumed with anger at her sister. For the kid's sake, could she and the friends all get together to help the kids, even if it just means she stays in contact with them via letters or something? The kids didn't choose any of this.

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Clara
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The kids are literal strangers to her. They've never met, they'd have to move country and she has mental health issues to boot. Also, she would go from happily married to a single parent so would have to adjust to these 3 kids whilst getting a divorce caused by them. Simply awful position to be in. Secondly, by your thinking, you and everyone else should adopt a few refugees because otherwise you clearly have no compassion for children in shitty situations. See how crazy that sounds? She's not the A, the sister is. I feel sorry for the kids but that said, I won't be adopting them either...

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Marian Moore
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The so called "friends" should step up and take the kids. They are hypocrites by saying you should take the kids. If they are so worried about the kids, then they should step up. I am on the side of the sister that says she won't take them. I knew someone who turned down her son and his wife, because they couldn't take care of their special needs children(2 children). She and her husband said they could not afford to take their grandchildren. I totally understood where they were coming from. They got dissed because they refused but they stuck to their guns. They knew what was right for them. Just like this sister knows what is right for her and her husband. She is not an AH, Her sister is though.

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Jerry Conaway
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Judgement for the Defendent - that woman doesn't owe her estranged sister anything. It would be different if the family had been close, if the sister had pledged beforehand to look after the children if anything happened. But given what is told here (there is always two sides to the story) the estranged sister cared nothing but for herself, and only reached out when she got in a tight, expecting to easily be able to dump her f-trophies on the easiest people she thought she could sucker - her family. Oh, and let me throw this out there - if you and your husband talked and he said he would leave you if you adopted the children, then you may have other problems coming down the road. Think real long and hard before having a child or getting sick around that guy.

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Matthias Lee
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA, she made a rational choice. no bond with kids, an old broken relationship with sister, different religious view, not enough financial income, foreign country, own health issues and views of children all of those would have nixed her chances with adoption agency in the first place. Dont know if Only family relation is good enough.

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Craig Reynolds
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. They are not your kids or your responsibility in any way. Family is NOT a mandatory obligation. It is something you have no control over because you cannot choose it but you can certainly choose how to engage with it. Those kids are no more your responsibility than those that people abandon outside of fire stations. Do NOT feel guilty. Do NOT feel anything. You owe your sister NOTHING because blood means NOTHING. You get to choose your friends based on your values. Family is forced upon you. Abandon it for your own sanity.

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Marla Maye
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The kids need DNA tests so the bio dad's families can find them if they are interested. The bio dad's might not be good people, but what if the bio dads have a sibling who's been on a wait list for 10 years trying to adopt or have gone through failed IVF etc and run out of $ and hope. The bio dads could be the bad apples in otherwise good families. The court will probably make her submit DNA for this and if the mom refuses, it will probably be done after her death.

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Suzi Q
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Just because they are related doesn't mean that you are the only one who should take them. I hope the response to those "friends" calling and criticizing is, "why don't you take them then." It's easy to criticize but you are the least of anyone who should take them because of the reasons given. She should turn to her church family and friends to help. It's a very sad situation.

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Lara Verne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Kids don't deserve this fate, but your sister's children are not your responsibility.

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Saint Lynnie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The mother should definitely find another option and quickly because if CPS steps in, they'll be split up and I wouldn't trust CPS to take care of a goldfish let alone children... It's a bad situation all around and I feel badly for the kids. They are the ones that will suffer the most through this, especially being so young. Hopefully a living family will take care of them

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FrancesCat
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The sister is too young, clearly, to raise three children that will be coming out of nowhere. (I know plenty of 25yos are parents of 3 kids but this sister isn't them.) I think it's great she's willing to help track down the fathers, but she should be careful; they might be worse human beings than a foster family.

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Kimi Tomminello
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe if they (the sisters) were close and the sis had the means to care for the children asking would make sense but who tf asks someone that isn't religious, lives in a completely different country and hasn't talked to them in 10 years to raise their kids when they are very religious and most likely attend church groups with women that would most likely adore being able to raise a child? Who asks a casual long distance acquaintance to parent their child?!

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Andrei Caldararu
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except for the language thing, she has perfectly valid reasons. Also, a kid - let alone 3 - is a huge responsibility and she's under no obligation to take it on, nor should she have to justify why.

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Chastity Embick
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My family is split apart and its every man for himself. I have 3 half siblings that I havent seen since I was 6 years old. If they suddenly tried to contact me out of nowhere and said that I need to take their kids in, I would shut the door in their faces. You can't ignore someone's existence for decades and, then be like "hey do me a favour". Especially taking over their parenting. It sucks for the kids but that's life.

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A Jones
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

yeah, NTA. It's not her fault her sister didn't consider a godparent in advanced. It should be one of the first things to consider if they had a kid (regardless of intended/unintended).

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Vanities
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There are plenty of Christian adoption agencies. The worst part is that there is a father out there who could at anytime swoop back in a demand his children. The courst will grant the kids to him. Crack and meth heads do this all the time.

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Kimberly Wiltshire
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Impossible situation, but really not your responsibility. Anyone giving you hell isnt going to be as diligent as they claim you should be under the same circumstances. That you and your husband have made the choice you have is a sign of responsibility. I grew up in a house with resentful parents that had me because accodents. Im my case it was not a happy ending, quite the opposite. Being blood related is not a winning combination by default. Its a tragic situation, but not your duty. Sorry that all of you have to go through this.

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Hannah Edwards
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why on earth would the dying sister want to ask a virtual stranger to adopt her children anyway? Kind of sad that the children may end up in the system and separated, but still might be better than to be be with a relative who doesn’t want them. Poor kids.

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gellert gridlewald
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

not the a hole. It's their life, they get to choose what to do with it.

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Libstak
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you are not going to be invested in being the parent these kids deserve why would you agree to take them on? Definitely NTA, quite the opposite. There is time before the mother passes for a host of community attention , especially from the church. There is good opportunity to find a suitable placement for these kids with care givers who want them and will love them.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Finding the fathers relies on the sister's information and consent...is there any legal recourse to force this out? Not that she would have any reason to fear the law while she's on her deathbed, but I would think there should be laws in place to exhaust every effort to find a parent or guardian before adding kids to the system.

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Bex
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not with an Ancestry. You can find that half of Thier family tree as long as someone closely related enough has had it done and allowed matches. Matches don't give out personal information (unless you set it up that way) but allow you to contact that family branch and ask if you can communicate through the app.

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Louise Anderson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I noticed you said all her friends are leaving nasty messages about you refusing (rightfully so) to adopt her children. but not one of them have jumped In themselves to adopt, hypocritical a-holes.

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Valerie Witter
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA - I think your sister was basically a stranger to you, you had made a life decision to not ever have children, your husband had also and would leave if you changed the plan at this point, and with your OCD issue, you have many reasons not to take the children into your home. She he probably has friends closer to her than you. It’s said that they could possibly go into the system, but not a good thing for you to take them.

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Peta Hurley-Hill
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hopefully, the poor dying mother can find someone mature enough to step in for her kids .Her sister is obviously not that person .I'd say they wouldn't have a very nice life with her anyway. My sister is 6 yrs older than me,we are not close, however had she needed me to step in when her children were young, I would not have hesitated. And yes ,I have also been a foster parent.Hopefully, the mother's friends or church (something ,as a atheist ,I would never usually advocate) can find a loving family who will keep the children together.I find it odd that this woman is so pious yet the children are all the result of apparent infidelity .Sound more like an excuse for the husband to shuck all responsibility. There are many families out there who would love a ready made family. The already overburdened foster system should be a last resort. Those poor little kids are about to lose their whole world, but would have a miserable life with their aunt and frankly deserve better.

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Craig Reynolds
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

NTA. Not her kids and she doesn't want kids anyway. Just because it's her sister changes nothing. Even if she had kept contact it still would not matter. You cannot force children on someone that made the choice to never have them.

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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can see the reasons why the OP doesn't want to, but i don't think I could live with myself in the same situation if I didn't take them in. Even though she hasn't met them she is the closest family they have. Screw raising them religious though, raise them how you want.

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Peggy Brooks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I will have these poor little kids. They aren’t at fault, they didn’t ask to be put in this situation. I would gladly take them and love them as though they were my own. Please let me know if they have found somewhere safe and loving. 🥲

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Donna Zgoda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’ll adopt them. And, as an adoptee and an adoptive parent, I know there are many childless couples who would gladly adopt them. I wish those 3 sweet babies much luck and love.

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Olivia St. John
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It takes a lot of courage to say No. The mother should stop sending friends to abuse her sister. She should spend that energy finding a friend who will raise her children. And, she should forgive her little sister for not being pliable as playdough. People are rarely so flexible in reality.

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kelly erin
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Probably best that someone who doesn't want them not take them. That being said, I had an AMAZING BOSS once. His father was murdered from a drug deal gone wrong when he was only 20 years old. This amazing man, and his girlfriend, took in his three younger siblings! At 20 years old, there's no way I was responsible enough to do that. MAD A** RESPECT FOR HIM AND HIS WOMAN!

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ewa
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I have four kids and am seriously ill. Still, of course I would not hesitate to take my sisters kids (or my brither's) - duh- I would take the kids of my neighbors if they'd need a home. If she does not feel like a parent, fair enough, take them in to make sure they find a proper home. One can look after them, to make sure they are alright, even if they do not live with them - and who knows, maybe they'll like them and take them home anyway. For young parents: this is the reason for why you look for people who Are willing to take your kids while you are well and hire a solicitor to make everything legally. We have this for our four kids!

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Julie McLean
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She s under no obligation to take her sister’s children, morally, emotionally or ethically. Her and her sister have not been in contact for ten years. Her and her husband made the decision to not have children, kudos to them. To put three children into a home that does not really want them would be tragic. If the sister is religious then she needs to explore that avenue. There are a lot of loving people out there who would love to give them a home.

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Gyanna
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think the kids are gonna be miserable I can have so many issues trust issues abandonment his shoes family issues a lot of rage towards Their family But it's her choice

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Rei
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Aren't there tons of couples out there who would gladly take all three children because they can't have their own biological ones?

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Enlee Jones
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

OP is right. She owes nothing to her sister and the kids are not her responsibility.

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Kayla J
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The OP should not have to take in children especially considering she is dealing with her own issues and overall perhaps it is best considering she seems to be holding blame from the sister onto them. The kids are about to have their lives seriously messed up through no fault of their own, possibly even being raised in different families because people tend to look for newborns instead of 6 year olds. I understand why she judges her sister's actions, but I feel like perhaps there is more to this story than what one sister who seems to be holding a huge grudge has to offer. Also, I hate these AITA posts cause she seems less wanting to know and more so just kicking her sister while she is down. She knows the decision she is going to make, she is not going to take the children in no matter what, what was the point of this?

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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Me coinage in this post like WHAT AN ARSEHOLE now I’m like damn I feel you.

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Ashley Lynne
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Ugh mixed feelings on this one- they're still your blood relatives and family is important. Maybe help her find someone to take them in? I mean if they were my nieces and nephews - I'd at least want to make sure they were taken care of. I totally understand the point- and don't think you're an a*****e but just feel bad for the children

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Are there maternal grandparents? Maybe they can provide care, until the fathers are found.

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Buzz Anderson
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Either way this isa very sad and tragic situation for the kids. As for the sister: For someone you did not have any contact with for 10 years you sure do know a LOT about her. Or that the kids are one night stands so to speak and you know they are all from different fathers. HOW THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ALL THAT WITH NO CONTACT. And the ex KNOWS none of the kids are his. Obviously short of both her and her former husband being white, and the kids are black or other color how does HE know they are not his. I think she is an a*****e but not because she won't take the kids but reading her comments, that is how she cone across. BUT sadly she is right. Not her responsibility. The dying mother should have made a highly publicized plea to the public for someone to step forward.

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KimB
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This OP got on my nerves at the end...literally asking people if she's an a-hole and then getting insulted that some think she is.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just feel badly for the kids. The sister can't be bothered to give a crap about her nibling and the mom is determined that the sister take them in. I can understand the mom wanting family to take the kids in but said family can't be bothered. It's highly doubtful the sister would treat them well even if she did stir herself to take them. "Foster care" has a terrible reputation for a reason; maybe the mom should find someone at her church to take them.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That’s a lot to unpack. I understand her not wanting to take on kids that aren’t hers, but I guess I couldn’t imagine abandoning them either. I guess I would insist on finding the fathers even if it was out of my own pocket.

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Anna Banana
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it's a bit unfair to say she is abandoning them. They are not her responsibility to abandon.

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Nikki H
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why ask if you're the ah if you have determined that you are justified in your decision? Internet input is not needed for the furtherance of your life unless you doubt your decision.

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Bj Burns
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If she knows she can't love or care them, it's best that she won't take them. But why be so vicious about it? They're better off with a 50/50 chance in any system than a 💯 chance of being rasied by a cold & vindictive aunt.

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I'm so annoyed reading this. So you don't wan tthe children neither does your husband. And they are so much better off without you. They have a s**t start to life already. They will Be better without you lookin after them you better get off your ass and do the right thing by your sister regardless if you like her or not. First calmy and nicely tell her how you would be a s**t mother. The children deserve better. And help the woman find a nice family and for f**k sake don't split them up. Get her to talk and do this together and at least promise the woman you will always look out for them and be in touch. Or would that be too much trouble for you??? MAke absoloutly certain they are not treated like puppies in a pack and sent off to different homes. All the woman wants is for them to be together with some family when she's gone.you would do that with your dog. Wake up woman and be helpful..... Using u as a ticket out of dying.???how you need a slap for saying that. Like she can help it

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I would adopt the kids, if they're related to me that's sufficient for me to not having them rolling around

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Yah my high horse is filled with my own children I had on purpose and I took on my craxy ex wifes kids (4 of them between 3 sperm donors who basically dont exist) and now my fiancés 3 daughters who live with their dad most of the time. EVERYONE now thinks they have OCD, and no you dont lose your sense of self or identity. I spent my teen years and 20s around my nieces and nephews before having 3 of my own. It was like I was the Uncle/nanny as I am basically a baby whisperer. as a full time parent I do what ever I want and still raise my children, they get to an age where they do their own thing and you feed and clothe them. Its like when your in your 20s with room mates

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NTA, but she is acting like one. Why ask if yta if you refuse to believe that you are? Sounds like she just wants a bunch of people to call her mature and her sister unreasonable. It's not unreasonable to ask family to take in your children after they die, like at all. Not saying it's unreasonable for her to say no, but it's reasonable for her sister to be upset.

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Hm...I can understand the decision but I don't like the original reasoning. Who cares with whom the sister did or did not sleep with? She's a single mom and has three children. Also: These are the OPs nieces and nephews. She would owe it to THEM to raise them, not to her sister. But if she is not able to raise kids because she does not have the resources (mental and otherwise) then she is not able to raise kids. It really is that simple.

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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How does she owe it to the nieces/nephews? She didn't ask her sister to procreate.

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Some people are not meant for being parents. Putting them in the system might not be worse than living with their aunt. Who knows how she would end up treating them I'll be at unintentionally because of the way she is.

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The sister's husband is TAH. I can't understand how he could raise a child for 6 years, a 2 year old and then a baby and not feel for any of them. It's not the child's fault, and it's not DNA that makes you a parent. If he won't take them, then her friends in the church should.

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Troux
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's an ex-husband, not a husband. There's no telling how long he was around the kids, or if he met them at all.

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For the question of "why don't you just go adopt? Get off your high horse": I would, but 1, I'm not old enough to adopt, and it's an expensive process, and 2, I'd get off my high horse but I'm scared I'll fall XD.

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wait wait wait... Did people actually vote NOT ah on this one? WTF??? Person does not owe her sister anything, but children are literally her only family!!! People do take care of their families. What the actual f*ck?

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This is so sad. She says her sister was mean to her, well thats what kids do to eachother, ALL siblings. That's not a reason to shun her as an adult. She probably wants family to raise them, regardless of who the fathers are, she is still the aunt, the only family member left alive which makes total sense for her to ask. If it was me I would take the kids. While the OP can make any decision she likes, it does make her look like a terrible person. If her husband would leave her over something like this he is also a terrible human being so i guess they deserve eachother

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John Dough
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Smug and self righteous to the end. All you prove is that you are the a*****e.

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Is op an a*hole...yes. should she raise her sister's kids...hell no. The kids don't deserve the treatment they would be sure to receive in her house. I shall call OP "Petunia"

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Why go on to AITA if you are just going to tell people to F-Off if they say you are the A-hole? She has every right to not want to take the kids and plenty of valid reasons but she sure sounds like a jerk. And the husband has already told her he would leave if she took on the kids? I would be questioning my marriage no matter what decision I already made.

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No one is to blame..it's just that if it was some 60s or 70s. This sh** would have been different. It's just that we've become independent and the fkng system won't accommodate having a life with 3 unplanned kids. I feel sorry that siblings have to go through having to measure who owes who. It's just that we've been more selfish than we ought to be. It's still no one to blame except our situation. We're not doing to family what we'd even do for strangers a couple decades back. What an irony.

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A simple movie like Raising Helen says it all...yes in the movie she was close with her sister but she was also in a position where she wasn't even thinking about children with single and had never even thought about having children was in a great position in her life where she was happy and thriving and in a heartbeat everything changed not just for her but for the kids as well. As good as it gets is another great movie to take advice from may not have kids but he did have to take care of a dog and he had the extensive type of OCD to were even the dog that he was taking care of started acting like him. Sometimes we are put in situations that we may not think we can handle or at that moment we can be kind of stubborn and say there is no way that will ever happen but the world is a funny place and there is purpose whether or not you believe in God,multiple gods and goddesses, the devil or nothing at All. Her life may change but maybe for the best....

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Poor Kids. Somehow they need their biology.... and they need to stay together...

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The Patmann
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Biology is unimportant, a loving family is all that matters. Source: I am adopted

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Julie Price
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2 years ago

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A narcissist and an atheist. Poor kids never had a chance.

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Llama King
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They didn't have a chance because of their a*****e of a mother. It would be worse for both OP and the kids for her to adopt them, for reasons stated by OP.

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Petra brown
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2 years ago (edited)

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NTA There is a lot of bitterness and anger towards your sister and your sister she still is. All that bad stuff that happen Ed between the two of you and now she has the audacity to die on you... You are mad as hell and you have every right to be. I just wanted you to know you are doing the right thing for these kids. All the bad blood aside, they deserve a mom and dad who really love them. You recognized very clearly that you could not be that mum and your husband is not that dad. I say again, you are doing the right thing. Don't you dare feeling guilty after your sister's death You are NTH. Her husband is a huge one because he hides behind the she was a s**t and they are possibly not his kids. I imagine that he changed diapers for at least to of them and was a dad to them for a few years. That makes him a huge AH in my book The second AH in this story is your husband. To put you under pressure and threaten to leave you should you decide otherwise is uncalled for, to say the least.

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Marla Maye
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If poster's husband chose not to have even one of his own kids because he doesn't want kids, he's not obligated to raise 3 that aren't even his. The ill mom's husband also isn't obligated to raise kids he was lied to were his.

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Hugo Raible
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2 years ago

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Why did BP only pick the NTA? I'd have loved to hear other perspectives. Smells really biased, as usual here.

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DE Ray
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2 years ago

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I think she's the AH - but far from the only AH in this situation. Sometimes the choices aren't good versus bad, but a scale of horrible to extremely horrible.

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Mysti
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2 years ago

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It's amazing to me how selfish people are today. I took on 4 children at the age of 23 when my mother was incarcerated. Didn't have kids of my own, but could not fathom my siblings being separated and not with me. We live in a very sick world.

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Ellis Reed
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2 years ago

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OP telling people to get off their high horse while she herself is arguably on one. Okay then.

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AY1984
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What high horse? She recognized she wouldn't be able to support the kids on her own and she wouldn't be a good guardian to them.

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Requiem
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2 years ago

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This f*****g generation summed up right here, NO the Sperm donors who had one night stands with her sister want nothing to do with the very young children and are most likely unfit to suddenly be parents. Yes she is more than an ass hole. I F*****G Hate my older brother and my two younger sisters all forgot everything I did for them while they had young children as I did a lot for all of them, its been like 10 years since Ive talked to any of them but their children arent to blame for their idiot parents. Paul Rudd was in a movie about this except with a Katherine Heigl whom he wasnt dating or even liked and they werent even family. "UHhhh my older sister was mean to me and it was very traumatic so now my nieces and nephews lives are even more f****d and ACTUALLY traumatic as they grow up with zero family and most likely split as I have admitted to wanting to do"

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Pezor Zass
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

this post makes you sound unhinged, and that makes it hard to take what you say seriously.

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Karla Brewster
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2 years ago

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Yes, the ass. Maybe, if she cannot physically take the kids she could help find suitable adopters...be their guardian ad libum...make sure they are well cared for, be in their lives. Otherwise she is horrid and will die alone and lonely

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Potato
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Alone? Nah, her husband was only going to leave if she adopted. The a*****e is the person who actually thinks this is her responsibility.

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Giovanna
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2 years ago (edited)

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Yes, you are the a*****e. You're still family to these children, even if you've never met them. Clearly your sister still trusts you if she asks this of you on her death bed. Not the life you'd wanted, but I dont think your sister has always dreamt of dying of cancer. You woman up and you take the kids and do the best you can.

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Emma Starr
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2 years ago

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I.understand her reasoning I think. But. The children are the victims. Would she be a worse mom than foster care where they will likely be split up. I think she is the AH. Sometimes in life you have to pull up your boot straps and do what's right. Those poor kids in foster care...that's not right. Get a therapist, get a babysitter, and give those babies a chance at life.

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The Patmann
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Therapists and babysitters cost money, so does the rest of the child care stuff, she'd be going at it alone, and even if her husband wouldn't leave her, they don't have the money for it

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Felix Feline
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2 years ago

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Rather than seeing them placed into foster care or sent to an orphanage, I would take the children. I would also locate the father's somehow and sue them for support.

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BigAssBitch
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

She has many reasons why she cannot. Plus, suddenly taking in children would mean making them trust you, changing your relationship with your spouse, and paying for them. Overall, it is a big commitment

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Dominique Deveraux
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2 years ago

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I'm sorry OP is still an a*****e and so is her husband for saying he would leave. That's her flesh and blood and there is no way my innocent flesh and blood would be thrown into the system. How about breaking some vicious cycles of heartless women in her family? Starting with her? I get it, she can't because her sister was so mean, OCD, she cheated. Looks like she held a major grudge against her sister and finally stuck it to her on her deathbed. No, I would not be pleased or prepared but I would use that chance to make amends with my sister instead of being so cold to her in her last days. People really do suck.

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Bj Burns
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Of she knows she can't love them, it's best that she won't take them. But why be so vicious about it. They're better off with a 50/50 chance in any system than a 💯 chance of being rasied by a disinterested & vindictive aunt

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The Starsong Princess
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2 years ago

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YTA, the contempt for her sister just drips from this letter. She finally get to punish her sister and the well being of the kids doesn’t matter at all.

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meme lord
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

no. it's not Ops responsibility to take care of kids that aren't theirs, plus it would ruin their mental health, and have a guardian that only keeps you there because you're related really sucks, and it sucks more when their mental health is shitty and you have a newborn sibling

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Terry Green
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2 years ago

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YTA, but you are right that the kids would be better off with someone that wants them. obviously not you. It sounds like you feel superior and these children as unwanted products of your sisters affairs. They are more than that and i hope they find a nice person to love them. obviously not you.

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AY1984
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Op has no obligation to take on children she doesn't even know. She stated she wouldn't be able to support them because her husband would leave. She NEVER wanted children, people who do t want children usually don't for a reason. She has already acknowledged she wouldn't be a good mother.

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meme lord
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"How dare you not take care of children that arent yours that are also from a completely different country that belong to your sister that you haven't talked to in ten years?!'

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