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“It’s Not My Problem Your Wedding Isn’t Kid Friendly”: Bride And Groom Take Parents To Court After Their Kids Ruin Their Wedding
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“It’s Not My Problem Your Wedding Isn’t Kid Friendly”: Bride And Groom Take Parents To Court After Their Kids Ruin Their Wedding

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This may surprise some readers, but most kids will find weddings exceedingly dull. So parents need to find ways to keep them entertained and prevent them from wanton destructive behavior. Unfortunately, not all parents see this as an issue.

A wedding photographer shared one of the more unhinged experiences they had with unruly kids and, even worse, they’re just as conceded parents. The story proved so popular that OP even gave an update later. We also reached out to Lisa Pleasant at Lisa Pleasant Events, an wedding planning company to learn more about these sorts of horror stories.

Children’s behavior at weddings is a pretty effective mirror of how well their parents raised them

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A wedding photographer detailed an event where children ultimately caused pretty significant damage

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Unruly children can cause a lot of destruction and these sorts of stories do influence how other couples plan their wedding

Bored Panda reached out to Lisa Pleasant at Lisa Pleasant Events to hear some professional insight on children being disruptive and maybe some stories about disruptive guests in general. “I have heard horror stories of such things as an older child (age 10) getting up during the ceremony and crawling underneath a videographer’s stationary camera tripod and then digging into the cake even before the ceremonial cake cutting by the couple, I don’t think I can say I have seen that first hand.” Of course, these sorts of stories do bring into focus the utter lack of parental supervision as well as basic guidelines for right and wrong. But, the lack of such stories could also be a result of more and more weddings taking place without children.

“Most couples opt to have adult-only celebrations, sometimes with only the exception of a ring bearer and/or flower girl, probably for this exact reason. :) If you want stories about unruly adult guests, however, remind me to tell you about a groomsman tequila-inspired table surfing, guests naked on a lawn, someone eating rose petals, and a man who thought it would be clever to light a barn on fire,” Lisa added. It seems kids aren’t the only ones capable of excessive destruction. However, unless you really want to scale your wedding back, a child and adult-free wedding isn’t really an option, so more and more people prefer the former.

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Child-free weddings may be on the rise but are still not the norm

While there aren’t solid statistics for it, there is evidence that child-free weddings are increasing in number. However, they still don’t represent the majority of events. One survey found that approximately 16% of ceremonies between 2017 and 2018 were child-free, which puts it squarely into the minority. However, attitudes are changing and as people have fewer and fewer children, many weddings might end up relatively child-free without a rule being set in place. Costs of catering and seating also come into play, so many couples might choose to save on the cost of little guests who probably don’t enjoy the event anyway.

A more common response is to plan specific events and activities to keep children entertained and away from trouble. Some research suggests that over 60% of US wedding planning involves setting up something for kids to do while the adults go through the ceremony, speeches, toasts, and whatever else they want to do. This does come at a cost, as running a daycare at your own wedding still requires money. Of course, it’s not just kids that can be unruly, so even a no-kid policy might be ignored by a certain kind of parent.

OP answered some user questions and discussed the parent’s horrible behavior

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Elizabeth Tayler
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They definitely should have been asked to leave long before the point of catastrophe.

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Salma Hernández
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This. If the kids where behaving bad at ceremony and parenty did not do anything its common sense to asked to leave. i was horrified that the motherr said its the brides fault that her kids behaved like that.

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Tams21
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This sounds like an absolute nightmare and I hope she wins in court. But I've been to dozen weddings over the years and the vast majority of them were well attended by children. I've never experienced anything even remotely like this story and most of time they were a joy to have around.

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LK
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many years ago, I was at a party, and the couple who were hosting had a grandson who was being a total monster. The grandfather picked up all of the grandson's belonging, and gave them to the child's parents. He gave instruction, "Leave my house, and do not return until you have taught your child some manners."

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Dzusty
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Respect to granddad! Parents that expect everyone to put up with their kids tantrums are the worst. Your child your problem.

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Ariom Dahl
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The parents should definitely have controlled their kids. But I'm wondering, as this appears to be an old story (3 years ago?) what happened in court?

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CatLady
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I searched Reddit... couldn't find an update. But from what I know from having dated a lawyer, I suspect the bridal couple would have won. The EPs sending threatening messages, posting on social media, etc.... none of that looks good in a courtroom. If the judge decided that the couple should have kicked the family out earlier, that might have affected things though. In my happy little dream world, they got their money back and some extra for the inconvenience and the EPs ended up having to deal with CFS, take parenting classes, and have drop-in home visits to see if they were doing better with their kids.

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Nice Beast Ludo
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have made these people leave at the ceremony. Where was the mother of the bride or maid of honor? They should have stepped in to ensure the wedding wasn't ruined. These kids should have never been invited in the first place

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Melissa Harris
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Apparently the MoB did try to intervene and was told "Don tell be how to parent" my negligent mom. *That* is when the whole family should have been invited to leave.

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Kristal
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I definitely want another update about court proceedings!

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Rae Mo
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only kids allowed at our wedding were the children of our siblings.Guest were not allowed to bring kids. In fact, if guests didn't RSVP they were not allowed in because we know people will not RSVP and still show up. We had the best wedding coordinator/team on deck and there's no way they would have allowed those kids or their parents to ruin our special day!

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rullyman
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got married last month, and had kids at the reception. The kids weren't a problem at all- my older brother however was incredibly obnoxious, got drunk, puked in the shrubbery, and had to be walked back to his hotel by one of my friends. The way we did it is we had a tiny ceremony on the Friday night. 7 guests only. My parents, my 2 closest friends, and 3 of my husbands close friends. No kids, no b****y aunties, no disruption. Beautiful tiny ceremony and a very fancy dinner. Then on the Saturday, family garden party at my parents' house with everyone invited. Space for kids to run around, we set up the Nintendo switch for them in the living room too. It was the best of both worlds. I feel bad for this bride, but this is why you have a crack team of expert bridesmaids who are there to intercept disruptions. My bridesmaids kept my horrible brother away from me to make sure he didn't ruin the party too much!

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Gozer LeGozerian
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had it been my wedding, there had been yeeting of adults and children

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Id row
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a child-free wedding - no regrets. Wouldn't have had it any other way. Didn't care if anyone declined because of it.

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Cara G
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was there no wedding planner on site who could have/would have/SHOULD HAVE told this couple to leave with their misbehaved children? I don't understand how it escalated to this catastrophic point. I attended two weddings as a child, both of my father's sisters, and in one of them I was a flower girl. I was 5 and 7, respectively. The only photo of me crying is from the first one, at the end of the night, because I was FIVE, and exhausted. And I'm sitting on my dad's lap while he soothes me. This BS would not have happened in 1984 at least in my family, I'll tell you that much.

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Kathryn Baylis
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nor back in the sixties when I was a kid going to several older cousins’ weddings—-at a couple of them, I was the youngest person there, the other “kids” being in their early teens. But my parents were really good at keeping children in line. I was the baby and only girl after four very rambunctious boys, so my parents learned the hard way how to tag team keeping their children well-behaved. We never would’ve even thought about doing any of the s**t the kids the OP wrote about did. We knew we wouldn’t be able to sit down for a week if we tried. The worst thing I ever tried to do was quietly and discreetly sneak a sip of champagne, out of curiosity. No one saw me do it. Tasted awful to my childish tastebuds, but I liked that it tickled my nose. Didn’t drink it again until I was an adult.

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April Stephens
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would you have your dress cleaned and repaired at a cost of over $1000 after the wedding? My first gut reaction was that I would just let the dress go, like a "trash the dress." It's not guaranteed the bride or her future daughters would wear it again. But the more I thought about it, the angrier I got at the kid for basically stealing a perfect symbol of beauty and the beginning of the marriage. It's the principle of the thing. He did a wrong thing and now he has to fix it. What do you pandas think?

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John Dough
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it just depends on how sentimental you are. For some the wedding dress is a symbol or even a potential family heirloom. For others it is an overpriced dress you wear once.

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CatWoman1014
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’d sue for emotional distress too and make it the max you can sue for in that district which usually is $5k or $10k. The brat’s mom knew they were in the wrong

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Celtic Pirate Queen
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My ex & I had a child-free wedding because of one friend in particular. To say her children (3 under the age of 10) were unruly feral monkey brats is being kind. She repeatedly asked (begged) me to let her bring the kids. I repeatedly said NO. But I had a feeling - so the day of the wedding we had a groomsman guarding the door. Sure enough, here she comes with all 3 kids in tow. The groomsman tells her she can't bring the kids in. She tells him I gave her special permission. He laughed in her face and told her, "Ma'am, you're the reason I'm standing here. You need to leave." Obviously, she was pissed. She left me all kinds of nasty messages, etc. I responded by returning her gift with a note letting her know I was terminating our friendship. I don't need people who don't respect me or my boundaries in my life.

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EM
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hope the newlyweds take the entitled parents for all they're worth. This is disgusting behavior and it will ruin their kids is it hasn't already.

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Nikki Sevven
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After seeing the parents do nothing to stop the first child from interrupting the ceremony, I would have paused it, stomped to their seats, and told them to GTFO.

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Michael Largey
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you bring young children to a wedding, you are treating two groups of people unfairly - the newly weds and the children.

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Ragnarok
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not that I'm siding with these s****y people but damn, I'm fairly certain that behaviour (kids and parents) didn't start on the wedding day. Why did you invite those people? It sounds like they have no respect for you.

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Kat Min
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'de have kicked out the whole family during the ceremony. I've been to weddings with kkids. Apart from a bit of extra noise during ther reception nothing like this happend,

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Susan Bosse
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have stood up during the ceremony at the first instance nothing was done and called the parents out. I don't care whose wedding it was. OR I would have taken the kids outside, left them there and then told the parents to go tend to their children. I'm too old to put up with b******t like that anymore. Lol

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Kathryn Baylis
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Me too. It’s actually kind of liberating to get older and have zero f***s left to give, isn’t it? I’m loving every minute of being the old lady with the mouth, calling people out for their bad behavior and b******t excuses for it.

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JL
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Medical costs for a cake falling on him? For what, diabetes treatment?

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Kathryn Baylis
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least the kid got a lesson in cause (pushing over a table during a tantrum) and effect (slammed by a wedding cake). The brat and equally bratty siblings should never have been allowed to get to that point. Someone should’ve nipped the kids’ b******t in the bud and read the entitled and neglectful “parents” the f*****g Riot Act. I don’t care whose kid they are, if they’re acting like this anywhere—-church wedding, reception, restaurant, movie theatre, whatever—-I will grab their grubby little hand(s) and lead them back to their parents or outside. At least it would force the parents to pay some goddamned attention to their kids! I’m 62, and have zero f***s to give anymore. I also wear glasses and can pull them down to glare over them at people who are misbehaving, coupled with a quiet, kinda growly, and very stern voice. Might seem kinda crazy, but it has definitely proven effective (the downside is I have to be 100% in the right).

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Allison Slagle (Randomosity)
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The moment those brats acted out, I would have told their parents to remove them. When the mom responds with "Don't tell me how to raise my kids," I'd kick her out too and lock the door.

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Patricia Butler
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We had a small wedding (35 guests) at home, with the reception in a tent in the yard. Everything was really beautiful, and we spent quite a lot of money to make it so. We specifically excluded children save for one, whose parents had to travel all the way across the country for the wedding and couldn't/wouldn't/shouldn't leave their 10-year-old child behind. We were pleased to accommodate him, and even more pleased to not have to deal with any other children that day.

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Big Chungus
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had kids at my wedding, but luckily the parents were all responsible adults and the kids were fun and well behaved the entire time

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LizzieR1985
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel so bad for the bride and groom. We've had parents at events where they haven't even bothered asking their kids to sit down. I know that I was very lucky. We had 26 children at our wedding, it was amazing. All so well behaved and my 4yr old niece even did some dancing to entertain everyone while I was having my last meeting with the registrar. Some of the ones who's parents don't have the same musical tastes as my husband and I even tried moshing when Megadeath were played at the reception (it wasn't metal all night).

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Marcellus II
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand this whole "kids free wedding" business. The problem is clearly the adults. You get a normal number of kids with normal parents, you don't invite a-holes whether your racist uncle or your useless-parents-nephews; and yes one parent will tell off another's kids if those mess up. Had about 30 kids at ours, between zero and ten, great times were had.

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Allison B
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While that's true that bad parenting is usually to blame at the same time, kids can still be destructive and cause problems even with good parents. And some bride and grooms just don't like children and don't want them at the wedding. So I think there's nothing wrong kid-free weddings.

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DramaDoc
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I ever get married, I will totally allow children; we will need something to sacrifice after all...

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somnomania
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i can't even fathom having people at such a personal event without knowing what they and their kids are like. everyone in my life is someone i've known for years and years and i know what their character is like and who they are as a person.

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DrBronxx
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Awful, awful parenting. One thing I was wondering about, though - do weddings usually have iPads for the kids? I have never seen that before. I had two kids at my wedding, in a Shinto shrine, aged 6 and 4, and the thought of something to entertain them during the ceremony wasn't a thing that came up at all - not from us, their parents, the wedding planner, the shinto priest, no-one. The two of them were absolute angels through the whole thing, and I put that down to their parents for raising wonderful children, unlike the parents in OP's story, who seem to be just awful.

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Jay Walsh
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I were there, I would of parented their kids for them. when they then came to the back of the church, to complain, I would of told them to they need to take their effing monsters and leave, now. And I don't even know this couple. If had been invited as a +1 to a work acquantiance I would of stepped in. The fact that nobody else did is pathetic as well.

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Kevin J. Henning
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I never understood why anyone would impose their wishes on a couple getting married. This includes mother, mothers in law, people with children, bridesmaids, groomsmen etc. Oh, yeah, I forgot. People are a******s.

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Julia H
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a child free wedding. ONE guest brought a 3yo, who f'd some things up. The little 5#1+ joined the bouquet toss and somehow caught the flowers. She also joined a wedding party picture without notice until the pictures came in. Unfortunately this was way before digital photos and photoshop. By the way, she was in a jeans dress, her dad was in jeans and a shirt with the sleeves cut off and mom was equally trashy at a place where one is expected to dress nicely (Castaway's, Burbank, CA)

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Beck
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it should go case by case. If you do not think the kids will behave then don't put "and family" on that invitation. I do think across the board under 21 not invited was weird. I know someone who got married last year (family) and my 20 year old son who had a 1 year old baby himself and his own home and fiance was not invited because he was not 21 yet.

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Peppy Piplup
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't be the only one who thinks it's unbelievably gross and dehumanising to call children """"crotch goblins."""" I know that Reddit is incredibly toxic when discussing kids, but it's not their fault that they have s****y parents.

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CatWoman1014
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not everyone likes kids. It’s just the way it is. I have a “crotch goblin” myself and I love her dearly, but that phrase doesn’t offend me in the slightest. I find it funny. You really should lighten up. Comedy is slowly dying because of people like you who get offended over nothing

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Layla Holston
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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom had me at 7 my siblings 5 3 1 and my cousins from like 12-15 years old at her wedding and I don't think we made any trouble.

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Jacqueline Wells
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think Judy is only getting married because Tom is getting married she feels she is entitled to all the things Tom is entitled to but Tom works hard for his DEFINITELY NTA 🤔

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Dawnieangel76
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another reason why, if I was ever to get married, the entire deal would be super casual. Costumes, or comfy clothes, which everyone chooses themselves. Pizza, chicken nuggets, macaroni & cheese, White Castle sliders, etc. Pop & water offered, but open to BYOB. Cupcakes & cookies, maybe a s'mores setup. I want EVERYONE to have a good time, including kids. I've never been a "perfect dream wedding" kinda gal.

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Cidalia Martins
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Article desperately needs a proofreader. I didn’t even read the whole thing and found two glaring errors at the beginning: “ A wedding photographer shared one of the more unhinged experiences they had with unruly kids and, even worse, they’re just as conceded parents.” The very last part should read “their” (not “they’re”) just as “conceited” (not “conceded”) parents. Heck, “just as conceited” should be hyphenated á la “just-as-conceited parents” because it’s functioning as an adjective.

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Marnie
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is horrible, but I'm confused as to why they had to postpone their honeymoon to deal with a stained dress and a ruined fondue?

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Kathryn Baylis
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Timing, pure and simple. The time limit for filing their case and assembling their evidence, then the obligation of having to be present in court when the case is called.

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Melissa Harris
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do hope the bride/groom win their suit. Parents are liable for damage/destruction caused by their minor children. Also, suing the bride/groom for injuries is laughable. If they want to sue its the venue and/or caterer that set up the cake that they need to make claim to. Again, parents are responsible for supervision of their minor children. Considering the OP as photographer, venue staff, the officiant and multiple wedding guests witnessed their negligence in supervising their children I doubt they'll get far.

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Doodles1983
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanted a child-free wedding with the exception of 3 children of my sisters. We didn’t include children on invites etc. The RSVPs, the people with kids, added their kids names into the RSVP and brought them along. I was annoyed but didn’t ask them not to bring the kids. I also didn’t make provisions for the kids they brought. To be fair, I didn’t notice the kids that did come as they were not little 5h1ts.

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R Dennis
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can we not act like all children are entitled monsters. My stepkids were in our ceremony (10, 9, 7), my stepdaughter had kids at her wedding - all were very well behaved the entire time... this is a s****y parent problem, not a having children around problem.

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Chris McMahon
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12 months ago

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Totally fake story. Likely not worth my time to comment but the fake photos and fiction writing style are dead giveaways.

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I think weddings are family events and not just someone’s special day. Hence, we had about 25 kids in a party of 150 people. This being said, they were kids from close friends and family and we knew that their parents will keep an eye on them, even though we knew that some of the kids will be rowdy. We had 0 incidents that affected the wedding or the reception. One kid fell into a fountain outside but the parents changed him and that was it. We did prepare outside games though, and we generally picked a venue where children can run around relatively safely (fenced in but with some open bodies of water).

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Rae Mo
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Regardless it is still the bride and grooms special day to be shared with family and friends, and their decision on who is invited. Glad having 25 kids and one who fell in a fountain worked out for you . Luckily the kid who fell in the fountain didn't hurt himself which potentially could have affected the wedding or the reception.

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I hate this type of selfish thinking and generalisation. In cultures around the world, and even in traditional Western cultures, kids are part and parcel of weddings because - after all - these events are about family. Yes, they may need some management, but that's normal; they are children after all and there are usually enough teenagers or young adults to the job. We have become so superficial and materialistic that we care more about the visuals or perceptions of strangers over our own precious children. The idea of denying children the opportunity to be part of something so significant and memorable is cruel imo.

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Mixed Reality Portal
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Interesting perspective ... but how do you invite kids when you know some are truly awful like in this post? I know plenty of well behaved kids and some real monsters with entitled parents - how would you invite the good and not the bad without causing drama? Especially if they're immediate family? My friends, faced with this dilemma, just chose child free weddings. It's the bride and groom's day afterall. Besides it's not always about the visuals, in their case it was about the consideration of the many elderly, infirm and less abled guests they had joining them on their special day.

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Debbie
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12 months ago (edited)

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"do you allow kids on weddings after reading this?" Well, why stop there? They was a mom and dad involved. Why not ban men and women too? /S (Excluding an entire group based on a few rotten apples...) (Ofcourse no one wants this to happen, but hopefully people have an idea how the people they invite are parenting their children, and decide based on that. )

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Elizabeth Tayler
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They definitely should have been asked to leave long before the point of catastrophe.

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Salma Hernández
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This. If the kids where behaving bad at ceremony and parenty did not do anything its common sense to asked to leave. i was horrified that the motherr said its the brides fault that her kids behaved like that.

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Tams21
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This sounds like an absolute nightmare and I hope she wins in court. But I've been to dozen weddings over the years and the vast majority of them were well attended by children. I've never experienced anything even remotely like this story and most of time they were a joy to have around.

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LK
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Many years ago, I was at a party, and the couple who were hosting had a grandson who was being a total monster. The grandfather picked up all of the grandson's belonging, and gave them to the child's parents. He gave instruction, "Leave my house, and do not return until you have taught your child some manners."

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Dzusty
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Respect to granddad! Parents that expect everyone to put up with their kids tantrums are the worst. Your child your problem.

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Ariom Dahl
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The parents should definitely have controlled their kids. But I'm wondering, as this appears to be an old story (3 years ago?) what happened in court?

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CatLady
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I searched Reddit... couldn't find an update. But from what I know from having dated a lawyer, I suspect the bridal couple would have won. The EPs sending threatening messages, posting on social media, etc.... none of that looks good in a courtroom. If the judge decided that the couple should have kicked the family out earlier, that might have affected things though. In my happy little dream world, they got their money back and some extra for the inconvenience and the EPs ended up having to deal with CFS, take parenting classes, and have drop-in home visits to see if they were doing better with their kids.

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Nice Beast Ludo
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have made these people leave at the ceremony. Where was the mother of the bride or maid of honor? They should have stepped in to ensure the wedding wasn't ruined. These kids should have never been invited in the first place

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Melissa Harris
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Apparently the MoB did try to intervene and was told "Don tell be how to parent" my negligent mom. *That* is when the whole family should have been invited to leave.

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Kristal
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I definitely want another update about court proceedings!

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Rae Mo
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only kids allowed at our wedding were the children of our siblings.Guest were not allowed to bring kids. In fact, if guests didn't RSVP they were not allowed in because we know people will not RSVP and still show up. We had the best wedding coordinator/team on deck and there's no way they would have allowed those kids or their parents to ruin our special day!

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rullyman
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I got married last month, and had kids at the reception. The kids weren't a problem at all- my older brother however was incredibly obnoxious, got drunk, puked in the shrubbery, and had to be walked back to his hotel by one of my friends. The way we did it is we had a tiny ceremony on the Friday night. 7 guests only. My parents, my 2 closest friends, and 3 of my husbands close friends. No kids, no b****y aunties, no disruption. Beautiful tiny ceremony and a very fancy dinner. Then on the Saturday, family garden party at my parents' house with everyone invited. Space for kids to run around, we set up the Nintendo switch for them in the living room too. It was the best of both worlds. I feel bad for this bride, but this is why you have a crack team of expert bridesmaids who are there to intercept disruptions. My bridesmaids kept my horrible brother away from me to make sure he didn't ruin the party too much!

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Gozer LeGozerian
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Had it been my wedding, there had been yeeting of adults and children

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Id row
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a child-free wedding - no regrets. Wouldn't have had it any other way. Didn't care if anyone declined because of it.

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Cara G
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Was there no wedding planner on site who could have/would have/SHOULD HAVE told this couple to leave with their misbehaved children? I don't understand how it escalated to this catastrophic point. I attended two weddings as a child, both of my father's sisters, and in one of them I was a flower girl. I was 5 and 7, respectively. The only photo of me crying is from the first one, at the end of the night, because I was FIVE, and exhausted. And I'm sitting on my dad's lap while he soothes me. This BS would not have happened in 1984 at least in my family, I'll tell you that much.

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Kathryn Baylis
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Nor back in the sixties when I was a kid going to several older cousins’ weddings—-at a couple of them, I was the youngest person there, the other “kids” being in their early teens. But my parents were really good at keeping children in line. I was the baby and only girl after four very rambunctious boys, so my parents learned the hard way how to tag team keeping their children well-behaved. We never would’ve even thought about doing any of the s**t the kids the OP wrote about did. We knew we wouldn’t be able to sit down for a week if we tried. The worst thing I ever tried to do was quietly and discreetly sneak a sip of champagne, out of curiosity. No one saw me do it. Tasted awful to my childish tastebuds, but I liked that it tickled my nose. Didn’t drink it again until I was an adult.

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April Stephens
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would you have your dress cleaned and repaired at a cost of over $1000 after the wedding? My first gut reaction was that I would just let the dress go, like a "trash the dress." It's not guaranteed the bride or her future daughters would wear it again. But the more I thought about it, the angrier I got at the kid for basically stealing a perfect symbol of beauty and the beginning of the marriage. It's the principle of the thing. He did a wrong thing and now he has to fix it. What do you pandas think?

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John Dough
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it just depends on how sentimental you are. For some the wedding dress is a symbol or even a potential family heirloom. For others it is an overpriced dress you wear once.

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CatWoman1014
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I’d sue for emotional distress too and make it the max you can sue for in that district which usually is $5k or $10k. The brat’s mom knew they were in the wrong

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Celtic Pirate Queen
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My ex & I had a child-free wedding because of one friend in particular. To say her children (3 under the age of 10) were unruly feral monkey brats is being kind. She repeatedly asked (begged) me to let her bring the kids. I repeatedly said NO. But I had a feeling - so the day of the wedding we had a groomsman guarding the door. Sure enough, here she comes with all 3 kids in tow. The groomsman tells her she can't bring the kids in. She tells him I gave her special permission. He laughed in her face and told her, "Ma'am, you're the reason I'm standing here. You need to leave." Obviously, she was pissed. She left me all kinds of nasty messages, etc. I responded by returning her gift with a note letting her know I was terminating our friendship. I don't need people who don't respect me or my boundaries in my life.

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EM
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Hope the newlyweds take the entitled parents for all they're worth. This is disgusting behavior and it will ruin their kids is it hasn't already.

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Nikki Sevven
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

After seeing the parents do nothing to stop the first child from interrupting the ceremony, I would have paused it, stomped to their seats, and told them to GTFO.

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Michael Largey
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

When you bring young children to a wedding, you are treating two groups of people unfairly - the newly weds and the children.

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Ragnarok
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not that I'm siding with these s****y people but damn, I'm fairly certain that behaviour (kids and parents) didn't start on the wedding day. Why did you invite those people? It sounds like they have no respect for you.

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Kat Min
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'de have kicked out the whole family during the ceremony. I've been to weddings with kkids. Apart from a bit of extra noise during ther reception nothing like this happend,

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Susan Bosse
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I would have stood up during the ceremony at the first instance nothing was done and called the parents out. I don't care whose wedding it was. OR I would have taken the kids outside, left them there and then told the parents to go tend to their children. I'm too old to put up with b******t like that anymore. Lol

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Kathryn Baylis
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Me too. It’s actually kind of liberating to get older and have zero f***s left to give, isn’t it? I’m loving every minute of being the old lady with the mouth, calling people out for their bad behavior and b******t excuses for it.

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JL
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Medical costs for a cake falling on him? For what, diabetes treatment?

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Kathryn Baylis
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

At least the kid got a lesson in cause (pushing over a table during a tantrum) and effect (slammed by a wedding cake). The brat and equally bratty siblings should never have been allowed to get to that point. Someone should’ve nipped the kids’ b******t in the bud and read the entitled and neglectful “parents” the f*****g Riot Act. I don’t care whose kid they are, if they’re acting like this anywhere—-church wedding, reception, restaurant, movie theatre, whatever—-I will grab their grubby little hand(s) and lead them back to their parents or outside. At least it would force the parents to pay some goddamned attention to their kids! I’m 62, and have zero f***s to give anymore. I also wear glasses and can pull them down to glare over them at people who are misbehaving, coupled with a quiet, kinda growly, and very stern voice. Might seem kinda crazy, but it has definitely proven effective (the downside is I have to be 100% in the right).

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Allison Slagle (Randomosity)
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The moment those brats acted out, I would have told their parents to remove them. When the mom responds with "Don't tell me how to raise my kids," I'd kick her out too and lock the door.

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Patricia Butler
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We had a small wedding (35 guests) at home, with the reception in a tent in the yard. Everything was really beautiful, and we spent quite a lot of money to make it so. We specifically excluded children save for one, whose parents had to travel all the way across the country for the wedding and couldn't/wouldn't/shouldn't leave their 10-year-old child behind. We were pleased to accommodate him, and even more pleased to not have to deal with any other children that day.

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Big Chungus
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had kids at my wedding, but luckily the parents were all responsible adults and the kids were fun and well behaved the entire time

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LizzieR1985
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel so bad for the bride and groom. We've had parents at events where they haven't even bothered asking their kids to sit down. I know that I was very lucky. We had 26 children at our wedding, it was amazing. All so well behaved and my 4yr old niece even did some dancing to entertain everyone while I was having my last meeting with the registrar. Some of the ones who's parents don't have the same musical tastes as my husband and I even tried moshing when Megadeath were played at the reception (it wasn't metal all night).

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Marcellus II
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand this whole "kids free wedding" business. The problem is clearly the adults. You get a normal number of kids with normal parents, you don't invite a-holes whether your racist uncle or your useless-parents-nephews; and yes one parent will tell off another's kids if those mess up. Had about 30 kids at ours, between zero and ten, great times were had.

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Allison B
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

While that's true that bad parenting is usually to blame at the same time, kids can still be destructive and cause problems even with good parents. And some bride and grooms just don't like children and don't want them at the wedding. So I think there's nothing wrong kid-free weddings.

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DramaDoc
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I ever get married, I will totally allow children; we will need something to sacrifice after all...

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somnomania
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

i can't even fathom having people at such a personal event without knowing what they and their kids are like. everyone in my life is someone i've known for years and years and i know what their character is like and who they are as a person.

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DrBronxx
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Awful, awful parenting. One thing I was wondering about, though - do weddings usually have iPads for the kids? I have never seen that before. I had two kids at my wedding, in a Shinto shrine, aged 6 and 4, and the thought of something to entertain them during the ceremony wasn't a thing that came up at all - not from us, their parents, the wedding planner, the shinto priest, no-one. The two of them were absolute angels through the whole thing, and I put that down to their parents for raising wonderful children, unlike the parents in OP's story, who seem to be just awful.

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Jay Walsh
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If I were there, I would of parented their kids for them. when they then came to the back of the church, to complain, I would of told them to they need to take their effing monsters and leave, now. And I don't even know this couple. If had been invited as a +1 to a work acquantiance I would of stepped in. The fact that nobody else did is pathetic as well.

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Kevin J. Henning
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I never understood why anyone would impose their wishes on a couple getting married. This includes mother, mothers in law, people with children, bridesmaids, groomsmen etc. Oh, yeah, I forgot. People are a******s.

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Julia H
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had a child free wedding. ONE guest brought a 3yo, who f'd some things up. The little 5#1+ joined the bouquet toss and somehow caught the flowers. She also joined a wedding party picture without notice until the pictures came in. Unfortunately this was way before digital photos and photoshop. By the way, she was in a jeans dress, her dad was in jeans and a shirt with the sleeves cut off and mom was equally trashy at a place where one is expected to dress nicely (Castaway's, Burbank, CA)

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Beck
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think it should go case by case. If you do not think the kids will behave then don't put "and family" on that invitation. I do think across the board under 21 not invited was weird. I know someone who got married last year (family) and my 20 year old son who had a 1 year old baby himself and his own home and fiance was not invited because he was not 21 yet.

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Peppy Piplup
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can't be the only one who thinks it's unbelievably gross and dehumanising to call children """"crotch goblins."""" I know that Reddit is incredibly toxic when discussing kids, but it's not their fault that they have s****y parents.

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CatWoman1014
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not everyone likes kids. It’s just the way it is. I have a “crotch goblin” myself and I love her dearly, but that phrase doesn’t offend me in the slightest. I find it funny. You really should lighten up. Comedy is slowly dying because of people like you who get offended over nothing

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Layla Holston
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11 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My mom had me at 7 my siblings 5 3 1 and my cousins from like 12-15 years old at her wedding and I don't think we made any trouble.

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Jacqueline Wells
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I think Judy is only getting married because Tom is getting married she feels she is entitled to all the things Tom is entitled to but Tom works hard for his DEFINITELY NTA 🤔

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Dawnieangel76
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11 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another reason why, if I was ever to get married, the entire deal would be super casual. Costumes, or comfy clothes, which everyone chooses themselves. Pizza, chicken nuggets, macaroni & cheese, White Castle sliders, etc. Pop & water offered, but open to BYOB. Cupcakes & cookies, maybe a s'mores setup. I want EVERYONE to have a good time, including kids. I've never been a "perfect dream wedding" kinda gal.

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Cidalia Martins
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Article desperately needs a proofreader. I didn’t even read the whole thing and found two glaring errors at the beginning: “ A wedding photographer shared one of the more unhinged experiences they had with unruly kids and, even worse, they’re just as conceded parents.” The very last part should read “their” (not “they’re”) just as “conceited” (not “conceded”) parents. Heck, “just as conceited” should be hyphenated á la “just-as-conceited parents” because it’s functioning as an adjective.

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Marnie
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is horrible, but I'm confused as to why they had to postpone their honeymoon to deal with a stained dress and a ruined fondue?

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Kathryn Baylis
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Timing, pure and simple. The time limit for filing their case and assembling their evidence, then the obligation of having to be present in court when the case is called.

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Melissa Harris
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I do hope the bride/groom win their suit. Parents are liable for damage/destruction caused by their minor children. Also, suing the bride/groom for injuries is laughable. If they want to sue its the venue and/or caterer that set up the cake that they need to make claim to. Again, parents are responsible for supervision of their minor children. Considering the OP as photographer, venue staff, the officiant and multiple wedding guests witnessed their negligence in supervising their children I doubt they'll get far.

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Doodles1983
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wanted a child-free wedding with the exception of 3 children of my sisters. We didn’t include children on invites etc. The RSVPs, the people with kids, added their kids names into the RSVP and brought them along. I was annoyed but didn’t ask them not to bring the kids. I also didn’t make provisions for the kids they brought. To be fair, I didn’t notice the kids that did come as they were not little 5h1ts.

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R Dennis
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Can we not act like all children are entitled monsters. My stepkids were in our ceremony (10, 9, 7), my stepdaughter had kids at her wedding - all were very well behaved the entire time... this is a s****y parent problem, not a having children around problem.

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Chris McMahon
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12 months ago

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Totally fake story. Likely not worth my time to comment but the fake photos and fiction writing style are dead giveaways.

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I think weddings are family events and not just someone’s special day. Hence, we had about 25 kids in a party of 150 people. This being said, they were kids from close friends and family and we knew that their parents will keep an eye on them, even though we knew that some of the kids will be rowdy. We had 0 incidents that affected the wedding or the reception. One kid fell into a fountain outside but the parents changed him and that was it. We did prepare outside games though, and we generally picked a venue where children can run around relatively safely (fenced in but with some open bodies of water).

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Rae Mo
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12 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Regardless it is still the bride and grooms special day to be shared with family and friends, and their decision on who is invited. Glad having 25 kids and one who fell in a fountain worked out for you . Luckily the kid who fell in the fountain didn't hurt himself which potentially could have affected the wedding or the reception.

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I hate this type of selfish thinking and generalisation. In cultures around the world, and even in traditional Western cultures, kids are part and parcel of weddings because - after all - these events are about family. Yes, they may need some management, but that's normal; they are children after all and there are usually enough teenagers or young adults to the job. We have become so superficial and materialistic that we care more about the visuals or perceptions of strangers over our own precious children. The idea of denying children the opportunity to be part of something so significant and memorable is cruel imo.

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Mixed Reality Portal
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12 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Interesting perspective ... but how do you invite kids when you know some are truly awful like in this post? I know plenty of well behaved kids and some real monsters with entitled parents - how would you invite the good and not the bad without causing drama? Especially if they're immediate family? My friends, faced with this dilemma, just chose child free weddings. It's the bride and groom's day afterall. Besides it's not always about the visuals, in their case it was about the consideration of the many elderly, infirm and less abled guests they had joining them on their special day.

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Debbie
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12 months ago (edited)

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"do you allow kids on weddings after reading this?" Well, why stop there? They was a mom and dad involved. Why not ban men and women too? /S (Excluding an entire group based on a few rotten apples...) (Ofcourse no one wants this to happen, but hopefully people have an idea how the people they invite are parenting their children, and decide based on that. )

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