Someone Explained Why Veganism Is Not Cruelty Free, And It Might Make You Think Twice Before Going Vegan
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There are many reasons why people decide to lead a vegan lifestyle, but according to these meat-eaters, this style of living shouldn’t be adopted because it’s “Cruelty-Free.” They argue that even Cruelty-Free International certified products aren’t entirely innocent if one was to look at the vegan food industry as a whole. The discussion picked up serious heat after some vegans joined it, and it will surely draw you in, as well.
Forced labor, exploitation of workers, hazardous and extreme working conditions, lack of labor rights protecting agricultural workers and extremely low wage are still very common problems in the food supply chains, even the eco-friendly ones. Agriculture is even responsible for 70% of child labor. Since 2012, the amount of kids working in the industry has increased by 10 million, reaching 108 million in total. And what about the Bolivians who can no longer afford their staple grain, quinoa? The dramatic increase in its demand in the Western world made its price triple since 2006.
These were only a few arguments used in the attempt to make people rethink eating vegan. It turns out, however, that many do. According to the findings by faunalytics, 84% of vegetarians/vegans abandon their diet. 34% of lapsed vegetarians/vegans do so in three months or less. Scroll down to read the exchange on this supposedly healthy lifestyle and let us know your thoughts in the comments.
(h/t cheezburger)
Vegan campaigns such as the one below are encouraging people to choose a cruelty free lifestyle
Image source: americanvegan.org (not an actual photo)
However, not everyone agrees that being a vegan means being cruelty free
People instantly started sharing their own opinions
And while some were questioning the logic behind some of the arguments
Others agreed completely
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Like someone said in the comments - it is pretty much impossible to live acruelty-free life. There are always two sides of each story. I don;t get the point of people trying to enforce their way of life/thinking over other people. Mind your own business, plate and life and everyone will be happier.
"Mind your own business, plate and life and everyone will be happier." *louder for the people in the back!*
That's exactly what I came here to say, except I was planning to use 100% more bad words. ;)
Wanda Queen: just to let you know, 100% more of nothing is still nothing. :)
Absolutely - mind your own business and your own lives - which means don't kill animals and take their lives. A cow is alive for herself, not to be a money-making machine or a steak. If you think meat-eating is a choice, then think again. Animals have no choice. It's like saying, I love the feeling of sex, who cares if the other person wants to join in? We don't have to eat meat. A huge proportion of vegetation grown on our planet feeds cattle for America. If we stopped eating meat and ate the vegetation, then we would be healthier, the planet would be healthier and there might be a planet left for our children - but it takes brains to understand that. Let me answer for you 'But bacon..?' and "Lions have teeth' and 'I am literally allergic to all vegetables and everything but doughnuts'.... and "I had a friend who went vegan for a week and died of malnutrition' - yeah, right.
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I hate everyone who eats meat! And all men eat meat, so I hate men! #fuckmenbutnotinasexualway
Mind your own business, plate and life and everyone will be happier....I need that stitched on a pillow
Abbey I had to respond to u because Femmy has so many Down votes that I can’t respond to her, This next part if for Femmy: First of all if you hate everyone who eats meat then hate yourself! I bet you ate bugs when you were a baby! Or ate something like ghat when u were a baby! Well that’s MEAT!!! 2. Not all men eat meat! That’s very rude and you are catorgrazing men as carnivores, well my best friend who is a boy, he will not eat meat! He is a vegetarian! I personally love meat. So hate on me if you want because idc. You also said “#fuckmenbutnotinasexualway” well that is in a sexual way ._. If you hate everyone who eats meat then doesn’t that mean you hate your family? Because I bet $1 mil (a lot of money) that someone in your family, maybe a cousin or something EATS MEAT!!! Now do I need to say more?
Food doesn't magically make it onto your plate I'm afraid. You are a consumer and that means if you stick your head in the ground you are part of the problem whether you admit it or not.
Alusair - I get your sentiment, but if everyone minded their own business there would be no meaningful systematic change in the world. If we all mind our own business, greedy corporations and cultures will destroy our planet and minority cultures will always be oppressed. So, thanks, but I will continue to mind other people's business.
I am really glad, that (and maybe only alive because) there where people who didn't only mind their own buisnesses and lives when it was time to step up against slaveholders, women discrimination, rascism, rapists, childabusers companies like united fruit and monsanto ruining lives and landslides in SA etc. I really hope, people will realize, that the "lifestyle" of the rich countries is just outsourcing these problems to other countries, that dont have a stable enough government to prevent mayor companies from exploiting their citizens and environment from the cruelty we seem to have mostly overcome for decades if not centuries in the so called "developed" world.
I guess you never saw those videos where animals suffer day by day a horrible life and a horrible death. Yes you can be cruelty free, and that non sense about people be exploit, my goodness every company exploit people in many countries, is the SYSTEM that needs to change, so no more silly excuses be vegan is the way to go.
Came here to say this very thing. I don't mind if you're vegan. Eating plant based diet is very healthy. But for a lot of vegans, it's not about any of this. It's only about some false sense of superiority and blasting it daily from their mouth holes. To be fair, the real committed vegans that I know aren't like this. They recognize that while their diet doesn't kill animals, there is still cruelty in the industries that produced clothes they wear, their electronics etc and they try to help in those areas. They are very live and let live people.
Best quote I've read in a long time! You win the internet today!
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"Mind your own business, plate and life" she instructs everyone in general. What a dumb cunt.
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oh sweetie, stop yer BS. Meat Eaters FORCE their way down EVERYONE'S throat DAILY - have been brainwashing people forever about meat and dairy. And BTW, toots, eating meat/dairy is not only cruel to the billions of animals tortured and killed every year but it is WAYYYYYY worse for the environment, world hunger, and health than veganism is
Oh sweetie, do attempt to at least imitate a reasonable manner when discussing this kind of thing.
Omnivore here. I don’t care what you eat. Just STOP BABBLING ABOUT IT. Seriously, STFU.
Nothing is cruelty free. This is not a paradise, this is real world. While I don't judge people eating meat (I also eat it though not often),. I do judge massive production of meat, slaughter houses where animals are brought up in cages just to be killed, horrible chicken slaughter factories where animals are kept in abnormally cruel conditions etc. Farms are ok, hunting, if done well, is ok, animals kept in any sane and normal conditions, even if they are going to be used as food is, well, let's say ok. Keeping animals slummed up in tiny dirty cages and then chopping their heads off on some moving machine is not and never ok. Torturing any animal for food is not and never ok. We are meat eaters but we don't need to have concentration camps for chickens, pigs and cows. It could be humane.
I completely agree. It's even worse when one considers that we produce more meat than we actually eat.
It very well might be that more than 60% or even up to 80% meat and other animal parts is wasted, not used for food at all. We don't even need fur anymore, there are such great fake furs, humanity does not need real one at all. As for vegans, nothing extreme is ever good, moderation in all.
Nicola my grandparents slaughtered the pigs they raised by themselves, but they never let children watch, cause they'd be too young to understand and the very image of life and death is not a pleasant one. my grandparents weren't very rich at the time so raising their own cattle was a way of having some meat for food. you don't always have the luxury of choice what to eat
Honestly still rather use real fur instead of toxic fake fur. Actually all the parts are in general used. Be it for animal food, cosmetics, etc. They don't just cut off the steak and throw the rest away. On the food. A lot of the animal feed is the soy used for veggies tofu and other soy product. The animals only again get's the leftovers that humans can't digest - cheap feed, bad for the animals, "good" for the humans. Also the corn/grain used for animal feed is not of human consumption quality, again mostly byproducts.
I keep thinking were we would end up if suddenly all meat factories would close down. would we be able to catch that much of wild animal on our own, and if we would, would we be able to utilise every part of the animal to eat on our own? I'm talking not just the breast or thigh parts, but also ribs, cartilages and even bones? this is just an observation, people who eat meat decide to pick out the best parts and often throw out the *non-edible* parts which in fact were always eaten in the past, because meat was not an everyday product like it is now
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Meat means killing a sentient being who doesn't want to die. Would you let your children watch slaughterhouse footage? would you watch it? but it's fine picking an apple... that's because it isn't natural for us to kill. Cats have no problem watching a mouse die.
YES exactly what I think. I'm trying to stop eating meat because of the way it is produced, not because I believe that we shouldnt eat them at all.
Thank you, Biljana. Here in the States we just recalled 207 MILLION eggs poisoned with salmonella. This amount of waste—just thrown-out animal food—breaks my heart, because animals make the ultimate sacrifice to feed us and we repay them with filthy, torturous conditions. It does not have to be this way.
QuietAnt - the conditions of chicken factories are really poor. The animals are kept in very small, very filthy cages that potentially breed disease like salmonella. Even people who don't care about the emotional wellbeing of chickens used for egg-laying should care about the unsanitary conditions of their food source.
But the eggs aren't fertilized, so how are we hurting them? I'm actually curious.
Because they got salmonella - you do realize the problem with salmonella right? It kills people, and can't be feed to other animals as it means it spreads.
Yea, we should be looking at ways to clean up meat and dairy production, because lets face it. We will always end up exploiting animals to some extent, and as human beings we cant even not take advantage of each other, so most people will not ever be convinced to go vegan. But, a lot of what goes on in the meat/dairy, and just agriculture in general, is unnecessarily wasteful, cruel and bad for the environment.
I actually prefer hunting over industrial slaughter. At least with hunting they have a chance to get away and they're not in a cage unable to escape.
The examples given are stupid. Being vegan doesn't require anyone to eat quinoa. Being vegan is employing those "exploited" migrants. Being vegan doesn't require anyone not to buy local. Etc, etc. "All we can do is reduce harm" is the entire point. No, I'm not vegan, but you people are fucking morons.
I would like this comment twice if i could
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As long you keep an animal for food there will be always cruelty. You could have slaves in more human conditions but still will be a suffering for them. You got it now. Well so no more excuses GO VEGAN, for your sake and the animals sake, and the creation's sake.
I'm a little disappointed in this article. Veganism does not equate to 100% cruelty free, nor does it stand for being perfect. Before I get any further into this, I think it needs to be addressed that me being vegan doesn't make me better than anybody else, and stating that I am vegan is not a personal attack towards someome that isn't. That being said, this whole idea of "there will never be a cruelty free way to live so might as well not eat vegan" is ridiculous and albeit lazy. Not every vegan you meet is a quinoa, whole foods loving, preachy vegan (that is only in it for the aesthetic). That is a gross stereotype and is only a small percent, so please don't brush off real issues. The mest and dairy industries are the number one source of greenhouse gases, the number one motive behind deforestation. All the grain we are producing to breed (inseminate) more livestock to keep the cattle alive could feed most of the world. To reiterate, I said meat and dairy industries, not small farms which is a different argument. Veganism = doing the best you can to protect not only fellow inhabitants of the earth but our earth itself. It is not a fairytale ideology. People are self destructive creatures and it's important to weigh out the pros and cons of all the choices available to you.
Thank you for this comment Sarah Sharpe, I couldn't have put it better myself.
I think that the worst thing that happened to humans was basing their diet on product that not local, that needs chemicals to go to you, that exploit the land, the people and the enviorenment you don't see and don't understand. I don't say that eating e.g. few exotic fruit a month is a crime, but if everyone just generally focused on local products, including meat, we would not have the problems with carbon, with plastic, with unjustice expoitment. Why? Because you would care that in your area children wouldn't work on farm. You would care that farm are killing forests because you want to go for a weekend somewhere. You would care that animals would be treated respectfully, because you don't want mass production nearby your home. As simple as that. :(
nope 1.5 Billion Cows, here are currently seven billion people alive. do u math ya pleb. and most vegan do act like their better than u, the very judgy. The world's farmers produce enough food to feed 1.5x the global population. That's enough to feed 10 billion (we are at 7.6 billion currently. also thousand of trees are getting planted now and land is protected better (land with forest area) since the fire in australia
actually i see you insulting her here. honeslty you call her pleb, but you obviously never put your nose into online data sites. cattle industry is a plague for environment. You can plant whatever you want, it'll still be the same
Actually the biggest greenhouse gas producing activity is transportation. Flying in a plane and driving a car produces far more greenhouse gasses than farming does- and pastures where cows eat grass actually capture carbon.
Yes this is well said! 👏👏👏
No, no, and no. Most of the facts you quote are wrong. Read or watch "Sacred Cow" for a complete rebuttal to most of what you said.
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I keep thinking that veganism is another fad.. vegans tend to be self-proclaimed know-it-alls who think they're better than everybody else and that their choice not to eat animal products is morally the best. people who can't eat animal proteins because of health reasons are not that prominent and don't cause that much ruckus.
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Veganism is 100 % cruelty free, i mean a vegan world would be 100% free for animals, we have to achieve that goal, we have to go toward perfection, as long we do this we will be ok. As long we are cruel on animals we will always be cruel with each other, it's all part of the same, violence attracts violence.
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Since you never say anything else and you apparently DO feel free to pile your crap on everyone around you, I’d say you’re being just a tad disingenuous. I would not be able to survive as a vegan. I would literally die. So take your self righteous twaddle and pound sand.
I feel like you didn't read a thing I just said, but I'll take your comment as is. Have a beautiful day.
You seem incredibly aggressive and defensive.... maybe it's something you ate? Love from a meat eater. :P
I'm not a vegan, but this is the most idiotic argument I've seen against veganism. That's like someone saying: "No one should be racist!" And someone else arguing: "It's impossible to eradicate racism because there's no such thing as a cruelty free world and some cultures and religions support systematic racism and here are some cherry-picked examples in which bigotry has benefitted certain cultures!" Solving problems (such as saving the planet and animals) is difficult, but arguing against people trying to help solve the problem is just counterproductive.
Thanks for that, at last someone using logic!
Cristi no
Well, the unlogic thing would be to follow up this logic with the conclusion "So it's totally ok to be racist, I see"
No, because not being racist IS a cruelty free racial policy, whereas veganism is not a cruelty free diet, as we've all been discussing to death.
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But still you cannot erase racism so what's yout fucking point? You just make reversed racism.
Despite all opnions given. I think we can all agree that the problem is the humans. we kill, we destroy and blame each other for it. we have no respect for the place we live in and we intend to move to another planet, like a disease, and do it all over again.
Amen
Yes the problem is the humans, like those ones without compassion and smart mind to realize that something cruel and unhealthy should be rejected. So no more excuses VEGAN is the way to go.
Veganism is a step in the right direction. That doesn't mean the direction is paved with gold. Eating quinoa is not fundamentally endorsing child labor - the fact that child labor is used has nothing to do with the environmental impact of the diet itself, it's a separate injustice to correct. However, eating meat fundamentally requires more land and resource to produce, and fundamentally produces more waste (methane, most of all), however there could just as well be children working the farms, particularly in Brazil's notorious meat industry which is taking down the rainforest faster than any paper mill. If you want 100% in control of the cruelty in your diet, have your own farm where you grow all of your food your own way. If you're going to be a vegan, it just means you have a LOT less work to do on the farm, and a LOT less space needed for it.
That runs both ways. Both meat and veg production can be done in sustainable ways. Grazing animals are not inherently bad for the environment. In fact, large herds of grazing animals are a critical part of grassland ecosystems. My family raises beef in reasonable quantities on pristine land in Colorado. The cows share a beautiful valley with a large herd of wild elk, and lots of other wild animals. We have been able to reintroduce native grass species. I would say that holistic grazing practices like we are using are better for the environment than any sort of plant production could be, because we do not need to displace any of the animals or insects that would eat vegetable crops. Of course, it is a relatively small-scale operation, but you should not write of livestock production as inherently bad for the environment.
In addition, there are not only "rich" grasslands but also areas where corn and wheat simply cannot grow (Heath etc). Believe me, sheep are wonderful fluffy delicious greenkeepers.
if your parents live in the countryside, i believe they own cats, dogs, or even horses. Do they eat them also??
Tell me, Max, I guess you still ... KILL ... all those cattle you raise. So how would they see your argument?
Also think about animals like goats that can eat almost anything and that live in almost desert areas.
I think the point here was not to say veganism is bad. but rather to put those sanctimonious vegans that look down on everyone who doesn't think like them back in their place. Nothing wrong with being a vegan. i'm not my self ( i do try to buy free range meat and eggs when ever i can, even if i have to pay a little more) but i can respect their choices. It's when they act all "holier than thou" that you start having issues. It's when you get the "being vegan is the perfect way to live". The point of the article is essentially get off your high horse. Veganism is not perfect so stop acting like it is.
To me, i think the most beneficial thing is to not force either ideology down everyone's throats. Instead we should be looking to clean up the whole agriculture industry to be more sustainable and eco-friendly. There will be more progress if we arent so divided. While i do believe not consuming meat is healthiest, we are still omnivores and eating huge quantities of meat and dairy is what gives you major health problems.
i agree that veganism is serious and shouldn't be taken lightly, or you could face serious health problems. But it's pretty easy to paliate the loss of meat. I just came out from my dietetician 3 days ago, and she confirmed to me that veganism being an unbalanced diet is a myth. as long as you eat balanced, there's no risk at all. you can find iron, and calcium in algaes, and leguminous plants
holier than you exist everywhere nowadays. it's not a purely vegan defect. some vegams go extreme (and certainly wrong), but you can also see these abuses (because they are) simply like persons considering their pets like a part of their family. if you own a dog, and see an abuse in a chinese dog slaughterhouse, they your blood just flip. This being said, i'm vegan myself, and i firmly condemn any bashing from any lobbying group
Yes is so silly blaming exploitation on veganism, is the system that has to change not veganism. For almost every product in the supermarket, people is exploit. The system has to change. Excuses, excuses to keep a cruel life-style.
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So, because animals consume a lot of crops, you condemn ALL meat eating (which would include hunting for example, which involves killing animals who've usually lived off food they get for themselves, and happens in the wild anyway), but the way agriculture is ruining the land, and allowing much worse working conditions, even if not encouraging, to produce things like quinoa, which let's face it not a single gram of which is going to cows etc, is worth the price? Also, might I add, you can also have a humane meat industry, that provides for demand, the two aren't mutually exclusive, and might I finally add, COMPLETELY cutting out meat because of what the current, extremely bloated, inhumane meat industry is doing, including the meat producers, for example local farmers, who are practicing humane meat production, the same way it's been done for quite a while, in favour of agriculture that has decimated Borneo rainforests, for example, is one of the greatest overreactions I've ever seen
Firstly, let's make one thing quite clear: the idea of killing an animal for meat is not immoral. The idea of killing more animals than is strictly necessary in an inhumane method is immoral, but hunting? That's not immoral, that's what every other omnivorous species in the world does. Secondly, if we didn't hunt, and didn't keep livestock, because remember, veganism involves no animal products whatsoever, then they lose their main predator. If you look at a predator-prey demographic, you'll see that when a 'prey' species hasn't got enough of a limiting predator, they shoot up in numbers, causing overgrazing in their habitat, causing a net damage to the local area. Thirdly, and this is very important to note: You can use less resources by eating LESS meat. If you dial down the amount of meat you're eating, and make sure you're eating free range, from animals that have had a decent life, you're being more moral, still cutting down on resources, and staying in keeping with natural order.
well considering humans are animals, and that they have the possibility not to kill, for me hunting is a simple fun hobby. and killing an animal for fun is immoral. also any hunter who respects himself/herself love his/her dog. why he/she loves the dog, and kill the deer. there's a kind of illogism into this. animals certainly prays onto themselves, but veganism never claimed to recreate the whole world. they don't need t; as killing in the animal world is 100% about surviving, and 100% cruelty free. vegans don't want to abolish praying into animals world, vegans try to end animal abuses caused in 100% of the cases by humans. and if you want a strong law to ever be born someday, you need to acknoledge the fact that killing an animal should be reserved for extreme situations. a bit like killing a human criminal that had gone wrong
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Cows require more agriculture to farm than a veg diet requires to eat, for the same reason that your weight it not a combined weight of everything you've ever eaten. Feeding a cow in order to eat the cow is logistically the same as using a fire hose to turn the knob on your kitchen tap. The meat industry could be more humane and considerate, as could the agriculture industry, but if both of them became as humane as possible, only one would still be taking lives. You can only be so humane when you're killing a sentient being. That said, of course eating meat is natural, and of course I'm not going to yell at my cat for not becoming a vegetarian. However if I can go about my daily life without killing something, and with consuming less resource then that's better off in my eyes.
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a step in the right direction? direction of what, a fantasy? people have been living off of animals to survive since our existence......"step in the right direction"
People have also been raping and killing each other since our existence, you dipshit. That's no excuse to keep doing it.
Oh my god this is so incredibly stupid. Of course veganism isn't 100% cruely free, we all know. But it's a whole lot less cruel than partaking in the killing of 150+ billion animals each year. Or does vegan food kill 150 billion workers each year? How fantastically stupid many people are never ceases to amaze and depress me.
I agree! This "argument" against veganism is idiotic. No vegan ever said he/she lives a 100% cruelty free life. They are making a small, personal choice to eat more healthfully and humanely. And this offends people. What a stupid world, indeed!
Vegan is 100 % cruelty free, the world is not but we should aim to that, you got it now? Besides is so idiotic as you said to blame exploitation on veganism when always every product you buy in the supermarket implies exploitation. It is the SYSTEM that has to change. SO no more excuses go vegan for your sake and the sake of the whole creation.
I wonder how many of these people who are judging vegans for affecting the cruelty of "brown people" have no problem shopping in their favorite stores where the products are also made by "brown people" for slave wages.
Aunt Messy: No, I'd rather save a billion cows. Also, that kid is probably gonna die from pesticide poisoning anyway, you know. Me not eating meat will probably not affect it much. Also, please do not force racism on me, like that. That's low. I don't care what color people are.
A) if we killed *less* animals, in a humane fashion, I don't see any immorality, I just see nature B), if you look through the comments, you'll see there's a lot of reasons why eating meat is a necessary thing C), if you don't think of eating meat as cruel (which you shouldn't), then being a vegan isn't any less cruel D), it's 2018 and you're still amazed by people being twats?
that's true lol x)
Vegan is 100 % cruelty free, the world is not but we should aim to that, you got it now? Besides is so idiotic as you said to blame exploitation on veganism when always every product you buy in the supermarket implies exploitation. It is the SYSTEM that has to change. SO no more excuses go vegan for your sake and the sake of the whole creation.
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So you just made the author’s point. You’d rather save a cow and let a kid die of pesticide poisoning - why? Because the kid is probably brown?
a + for the bees. I do think not eating honey is alright if you don't like the taste or you have diabetes or something, but because of "animal cruelty"? Dumb
Apparently it’s “bee slavery”. Clearly it was coined by someone who had not the vaguest notion of the social life of bees.
you clearly have no idea either
each to their own. we don't need more reasons to hate each other.
Did you even read the article Sheila?
Sheila, be a good turtle and pull your head in.
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really????? Try being that pig or cow in a slaughterhouse and then say to each his own - POS
There's definitely one piece of shit in here, you're right about that.
Try being a pig or cow in a world where they've lost their natural predator, have shot up in population, overgrazed, lost their food sources, and have now wiped themselves out because some preachy vegans were assholes in internet comments and then try being a self-righteous idiot about it
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guess you'd say that about slavery and rape and murder of people as well, right???
Real enlightened, there, Sheila.
Let's not forget how much of food is wasted every day, every year. Plus consumption of meat is getting crazy, my grandparents ate meat once per week, my parents grew up having meat few time per week, now people in my country having meat everyday for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
This article does not address that non-vegans are eating from the same crops as vegans! It makes it sound like vegans are contributing more to human cruelty that non-vegans, which is not true. Veganism is a fight against animal cruelty- human cruelty is a separate issue that needs to be adressed by all people. Vegans have little to no bearing on it. The foods people labor to make are bought by vegans and non-vegans alike.
at last - you'd think non-vegans never eat a single solitary vegetable, grain or piece of fruit ever
I'm really confused as to why this Bored Panda shares so much anti-vegan propaganda. I love the animal pics, the heart warming stories, the funny anecdotes, and the awesome art, but why this???
I wonder this, too! And this post isn't even a halfway intelligent argument against veganism; it is cherry-picking random and unproven ideas. Rabbits have to be gas-bombed to grow crops? Quinoa supplies are depleted because of ... vegans? Um, no.
lol quinoa made me laugh too
Always the same - anything bad that isn't explicitely and only anti-vegan is to blame on vegans, while the production of meat is actually turning this planet in a paradise for each and every human. This is just low-level propaganda, not even missing a point, but not even aiming at any point that's a member of reality. Veganism is one way out of a few parts of cruelty, not making them disappear at once, but refusing to actively cause them. ... but haters will hate, and it is very likely to always find someone backing up the dumbest shit of meat-apology, just because "bacon, thug, YOLO!" or something alike. People treating other animals AND humans like shit will blame you for not preventing every case of humans being treated bad. Be vegan and buy one soy bean - the fact that soy beans are grown in former rainforest areas makes you guilty, even if yours were from somewhere else - buy pig's corpses that actually ate the soy grown there - you're innocent. Stupid people are simple.
Because... it's true?
You should do some actual research before you start spouting this ignorance.
well i guess any subject has the right to debate. but i agree that the author probably never read how disastrous meat eating is on an ecological level
My thought exactly!
Probably because they're in charge of their website and they can do as they please.
Not really hating. Just picking out flaws, and pointing out problems.
Because they also share preachy vegan propaganda (though it's usually in the form of some dickhead in the comments), and because free speech exists, and you're allowed to share whatever you want on this site.
Well not whatever you want, but you know what I mean
Most stupid responses I ever read: Do you know how much land they chop down just to breed and slaughter animals? 65 billion animals every year. You can also multiplay this number by 14 since animals needs 14 times more food than humans. Stop coming up with excuses for your tastebuds. They can all be easily debunked in sqeconds.
sadly true
What about crops wihch are exported or harvesed by children to feed animals that will be eat by men?
What about it? Are the crops to blame? Or the system we have in this world? Think, think hard. You see? Well, no more excuses Go Vegan for your own benefit and the planet benefit too.
Much of that is what is deemed not human consumption worthy. A wast majority of animal feed is in fact soy bean by products.
Exactly
Because it's not possible to live 100% cruelty free, people shouldn't waist their time doing the right thing. This argument can apply to everything humans do, and is completely absurd when applied to basically anything. That is why it is a fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy
That's is just a silly excuse from somebody that clearly eats flesh and don't have compassion on animals. YES we can be 100% free, we have to aiim to that. Exploitation is due to the system we live in, so is the system to blame not the crops, agree? Yes that so dumb. Well sir no more excuses to keep eating animals, for your sake and the sake of the animals and the whole planet Go Vegan.
Erm... belittling people with different opinions is a horrible idea and counterproductive if you aim for a good cause.
I'm vegetarian and I don't understand why people think it's okay to be violent ab all of this , be nice . No ones gonna listen to you if you're yelling at them .. they will do the opposite. If you want people to become vegan . Show them your side and ACTUALLY research your stuff . Or just leave them alone .. maybe there happy with there life style . I wouldn't want someone yelling at me about how they think it's wrong that I'm vegetarian. I'm vegetarian because the meat industry is completely bonkers (in my opinion ) but I'm also a lgbt rights activist, feminist and people that only care ab the animals in my opinion are crazy . if you're gonna care ab one living things life . Then you need to care about every sex, race, culture, and sexuality .
The dairy and egg industries aren't a paradise either. And why do you assume that people who care about animals don't give a damn about people? It's not either/or.
Being vegan is just a way of life and not a diet. Vegans don't use leather products, don't use products that came from testing