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“Protect Yourself”: Gen X Woman Warns People Against The Tradwife Trend After Being One Herself
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“Protect Yourself”: Gen X Woman Warns People Against The Tradwife Trend After Being One Herself

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There are so many trends on social media nowadays, it can be hard to keep track of them all. But one of them has caused quite a buzz recently, as it seems to have split people into camps about it—it’s tradwife content.

An intuitive life coach, energy worker, and medium, Meredyth Willits, recently went viral for sharing her views on the topic in a TikTok video. By pointing out certain negative aspects of such a lifestyle, she started a debate as fellow netizens expressed varying opinions. Scroll down to find Meredyth’s video below, where you will also find her recent interview with Bored Panda.

The so-called tradwife content seems to be getting increasingly popular among internet users, many of whom are rather young

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A representative of Gen X shared her views on the matter, pointing out some negative sides of said lifestyle

“Why is trad wife content suddenly blowing up? Because people my age that were traditional wives are getting divorced and realizing that they threw 20 years of optional, available, could-have-been energy into the workforce, into their future, they threw that away doing laundry and watching their kids.”

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“Now, don’t get me wrong, I wouldn’t trade staying home with my children for anything. However, I would have insisted on some sort of investment into my future, either by way of a 401k, a home in my name, or I would have had to have some sort of side gig where I could have put that on a resume if anything happened to my husband or our marriage. And so people my age, women that are in their 40s and 50s that have raised their children, who have been traditional wives are coming forward and talking about the realities of that, because someone like my grandmother, who couldn’t have left her husband no matter what, because she went from high school and her parents into being a stay-at-home wife and mother, she could never have left. Ever.”

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“So I being 51, I am like one of the first or second generations of women being traditional stay-at-home wives who are coming out and saying, “Don’t do this to yourself.” Trad wife content is becoming super popular right now. Because what’s happening is the trad wife is glamorizing staying home, and being a homemaker, and a stay at home mother, which again, there’s nothing wrong with that. As long as you talk about the fact that if your husband dies, you’re screwed, like triple double screwed.

I have a family member that if her husband died or left her tomorrow, she would be a stay-at-home wife broke on her a** with four kids and no way to support herself. Or if he died, she’s completely screwed. And for all of you out there that say, “Just marry a really good man,” and that’s great and all, but what if you’re sick of this really great man? What if he dies? What if he becomes incapable of going to work? It’s not that ‘trad wife content is extremely popular right now, everyone is just being mean’, what’s happening is is that we are the second generation of women coming forward to say ‘quit being so goddamn stupid and protect yourself’.”

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“50% of marriages end in divorce. And while he’s making $100,000+ a year, you have no skills, no career, no resume, nothing except for kids and a dog and god knows what else. You will be living in an apartment while he’s got his new 20 something in his penthouse or the family home. So good luck. This content isn’t becoming popular because we’re mean, this content is becoming popular because you’re glamorizing a lifestyle that you have know nothing about. You know nothing about. You’re just the baby trad wife and that’s okay, too.”

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“And by the way, I’m not angry or bitter. I own an island and a Porsche. I have an amazing husband, but don’t get it twisted. My kids were eating 99 cent pizzas when I was a single mom, we didn’t go on vacation, and we had no money to go to Burger King. It’s not bitterness, it’s reality. If you get traded in, that’s all there is to it. Your entire life is dependent on whether or not he still likes you. Good luck”

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Meredyth’s video was watched nearly 300k times on TikTok

@meredyth_with_a_why #stitch with @Estee #tradwife #tradwifecontroversy #tradwifelife #tradwifey #traditionalwife #sahm #sahwag ♬ original sound – Meredyth Willits

The tradwife lifestyle trend has boomed online over the last several years

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Perfect hair, a kitchen setting, and clothing that seem in no way comfortable to cook in—these are just a few things that often accompany the so-called tradwife content online. Spreading like wildfire on social media, the tradwife lifestyle—often alarmingly similar to what one imagines when they think of the 1950s—is based on following traditional gender roles with the man being the provider for the family, while the woman tends to the home and kids, and, of course, takes care of the cooking.

“The trad wife movement is an international movement of women who advocate a return to traditional gender norms through submitting to their husbands and promoting domesticity,” a researcher at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue, Cécile Simmons told Euronews Culture, adding that the origins of the movement can be traced back to Reddit, where it emerged roughly six years ago. Since then, they have surfaced in other mainstream social media platforms, such as Instagram and TikTok, just to name a couple.

Taking the internet by storm in recent years, the tradwife lifestyle arguably falls under the same umbrella as being a homemaker or a stay-at-home-girlfriend—as some influencers present themselves—as they are all home-centered and typically entails being more or less fully dependent on the man of the household.

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“I think it’s important to mention that many of these content creators are not technically stay at home moms because they can be making a living from content creation, brand deals, or coaching. They are merely showing the lifestyle and not saying how much money they are earning from being a content creator,” the person behind the TikTok video, Meredyth, told Bored Panda. “You cannot say you are a stay at home mom and also be earning six figures. That is not the same thing just because you’re working from home.”

Some people believe following such a lifestyle can lead to certain dangers

In the OP’s eyes, the financial benefits are likely to be one of the main reasons why tradwife content has become so popular online. “From the perspective of the tradwife, there’s money in it. They get a ton of views and as a content creator, there’s money in creating the content that people are eating up. Also, if they get brand deals, they can make money from that as well.”

Some of the social media accounts promoting such a type of lifestyle—including the one Meredyth was replying to in her video, an account run by a popular tradwife Estee Williams—have gathered massive audiences, with tens or hundreds of thousands of followers online.

According to Estee, for instance, a tradwife is a “woman who prefers to take a traditional or ultra-traditional role in marriage, including the beliefs that a woman’s place is in the home”. While some people don’t mind a female choosing such a path in life, others deem it a slippery slope to certain dangerous outcomes.

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Some of the worries people opposing the glamorizing of such a lifestyle have are based on the seemingly ever-present what if. What if the head of the household—the man of the family—is no longer able to work and support his loved ones? What if the relationship does not last and the woman is suddenly left with no ground to stand on or a safety net to fall back on?

“The danger is that it puts women in a position of not being able to take care of themselves. It makes them weakened by putting all of their eggs in one basket, it being their partnership,” Meredyth said.

Moreover, she pointed out that being a trad wife often means that at the end of the day, the year, or the decade, you have nothing to put on a résumé. “So if something were to happen to your partner who is bringing in the conventional income to the family, you are stuck with no way to earn a living; it leaves you at the mercy of their income and if they want to keep you around or not, as well as if you want to stay with them yourself.

“Unfortunately, influencers focused on tradwife content do not show the woman asking for money each week to pay for things, midnight feedings for newborns, or the aftermath of not protecting oneself with a prenup, IRA, or some other financial investment,” Meredyth added.

According to Cécile Simmons, there’s also the danger that the submissiveness to one’s husband that tradwifes are known for entails, as it can lead to normalizing abusive relationships.

The popular online trend might not be representative of the reality

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While Estee emphasized that such a lifestyle is based on a choice and that no one is pushing it on other women, the extent to how popular the content portraying it has become in itself can be enough to affect people’s views, especially those of young women. Covering the topic of “Tradwives, stay-at-home girlfriends and the dream of feminine leisure”, The Washington Post brought attention to a case of a 16-year-old, who, formerly a go-getter, was now a firm believer in patriarchy, ready “for someone to come and take care of her”; and it’s likely not to be the only example of a young woman choosing a similar path influenced by what she has seen on social media.

While it’s true that young people are exposed to all sorts of content online on a daily basis—which means that the problem lies more in what they might have access to, choose to believe or follow rather than what is uploaded on the internet—those following tradwife accounts might not be aware of the less charming aspects such a lifestyle entails.

American journalist and author Jo Piazza pointed out that the tradwife aesthetic can be harmful to young women as the ‘50s-inspired lifestyle is based on false nostalgia. “It’s a false nostalgia for a time that didn’t exist for the majority of the population, and for a time that was incredibly demeaning, condescending and difficult for women,” USA Today reports her saying. However, it’s important to note that, according to the journalist, the trend becomes somewhat dangerous when it is presented as the only right way to go about life.

Whether or not such a lifestyle is eagerly advocated by influencers on social media, it’s no secret that the online world is not always representative of reality, meaning that the tradwife lifestyle might be not much more than an act, too. “They make it look so lovely, this 19th-century drudgery,” a freelance writer Emma Beddington pointed out in The Guardian. “The reality of homesteading is precarious and not pretty <…> You can know tradwife life is fantasy – a Little House on the Prairie performance piece (after all, social-media content, not cattle, often pays the bills) – and still enjoy it. But the gorgeous aesthetics can also lull you into not noticing, what – apart from sourdough starter kit – it’s selling.”

While clearly not everyone is a fan of the trend currently blooming on social media, there are people siding with the tradwifes, too. Some of the latter believe that as long as each woman can choose what’s best for her, who’s to say that being a homemaker, a stay-at-home-girlfriend, or a tradwife is worse than any other path they decide to take.

It started a discussion online, fellow netizens shared their views on the topic

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Susie Elle
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2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The biggest mistake people make is to assume that they never change, that the other person will never change, or that situations that seemed rock-solid once will never change. Anything can change, that doesn't mean that you can never trust someone or something, what it means is that you always have to be able to cope with the alternative of what you were hoping for or trusting on, to the best of your ability. Don't become a doomsday prepper, just be smart. Prepare yourself for a future you didn't plan for.

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Tamra
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, exactly this. Even assuming you're partnered with a stable, loving, honest man, as age comes for you both, you're looking at an increase in possibility for heart attacks and stroke that can easily destroy that single income you've both been relying on.

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Weim Central
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poverty in older women who where tradwives is real. Especially in the US where your health insurance is tied to your employment. Tradwife is not a job title.

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Upstaged75
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thankfully my dad has provided well for my mom in case anything happens to him. She's been a housewife most of her life and lets him handle everything else. She's never lived alone as an adult or had to pay for/manage everything that entails. I personally can't imagine that, but I think a lot of 70's/80's housewives are going to be in the same situation.

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MoMcB
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if you're very happily married, things can go wrong. My Mum and Dad were devoted to each other. My Dad died at 52 from a massive heart attack, very suddenly. Even though he left a decent amount of money from insurances and pensions, my mum still had to work. She had always worked part time, but if she hadn't? Having no skills or experience at over 50 is not good news when looking for work.

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SirWriteALot
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude here: I wouldn't have wanted my wife to be a tradwife ... imagine coming home and not being able to talk to your wife about work since she has no concept of what it involves and only hearing about what kid#1 broke and how kid#2 shat himself up to his neck. We each stayed at home for a year with a kid, wife kept her job and career as did I ... can't imagine any other way.

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Sweet Fanny Adams
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sympathies, BP writer for having to transcribe that video. I don't hate things. Hate is a very strong word. I try not to let things bother me but if I could put names to things that have been getting me down they would be tiktok videos and reddit posts. Which is why I avoid those websites. I love Bored Panda website for their interesting articles and funny posts.

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Lady Miss Pie
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The tradwife movement is naive and even dangerous. That Estee what’s her name is AWFUL—smug, stupid, it’s just cosplay. They think older feminists are bitter old meanies but we have their interests at heart….A LOT of these trad wife influencers will be truly up a creek in several years because of their anti-feminist views and their hubris.

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Sunshine Lady
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am SAHM at the moment, so probably tradwife? It's not traditional in my country. But before getting married and having kids, I got bachelor's and master's degree. I had really good paying job and I have no fear if I have to start again tomorrow. My security is not my man. In my country my health insurance and pension money are not tied to my husband or even my job. I always say that women need to have education, qualifications, job. It's easier to find a job if something happens suddenly if you already have experience and/or education.

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Little Wonder
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

SAHM and Tradwife are very different. The whole idea behind tradwives is to live entirely for their husbands, and to serve their families with lots of labour (although to be truthful, the tradwives on Tiktok are actually also selling products via amazon, so they can claim they "don't work" but they do, their whole account is a job). Tradwives are a lot more conservative, often religious and generally oppressed (The MAN of the house makes the decisions) . A woman who chooses to stay at home with her kids is not always a tradwife.

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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, how interesting a person are you when your life revolves around dishes and kids? You're also putting the mental load of supporting the family on the husband, who may be a good man, but does he deserve to have that pressure, knowing his wife can never support herself or be there for the children if something happens to him? I don't understand how anyone would want to be stuck in a life like that, not learning anything new, never having that sense of accomplishment that comes from being independent and providing for others. Even buying a gift that HE paid for?

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Alewa
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure how this works in the US, but in Germany once you marry, you and your spouse sort of become a company, meaning that everything either spouse earns during the marriage will be divided equally in case of divorce. There are exemptions, but at least there is some kind of security. I would still suggest to always be financially independent if possible.

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Cosmikid
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2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the US this varies with the state some being "everything is 50-50, and some with laws originating somewhere around 1200 CE under feudalism. Women need to know.

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Verena
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even in countries with an overall solid social security, retirement and health system, which is funded by taxes and insurance fees paid by everybody, those widows who never had a working career of their own are poor. So even without divorce or early death of the husband, their financial situation is such as that they cannot keep the house/flat they shared with him as pensioner. Trad wives are poor trad widows.

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DB
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another post bashing someone else's lifestyle choice because you don't agree with it.

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Becca not Becky
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if the younger generations' focus on mental health is playing a part. When we hear so much about toxic work environments, rude clients, dictator bosses, workplace violence/harassment, unfair pay, etc, why not just stay safe at home and have your day scheduled completely how YOU want it to be with everything provided for you? That's a pretty easy thing to glamorize. Not to mention a lot of places/cultures in the world still promote that.

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lustrous..xx
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2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

not really, these tradwives are not of the 'younger generations' much more gen x, which is not the 'mental health' generation anyways. despite that its honestly more patriarchal and misogyny systems/themes that delude women and push them into it.

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Sweet Fanny Adams
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People making videos on tiktok earn money. They put out any rubbish. It says so right here... https://support.tiktok.com/en/business-and-creator

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Cierra Edens
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well some of us didn’t have a choice. We would have lost money at one point because of childcare. For 3 kids full time and one before and after school it would have been around 4k a month. Now we have 3 out of 4 kids in school and I’m going to work next year. In the decade I spent at home I got a teaching degree and graduated debt free. I love being a stay at home mom but it’s time. It’s what worked for us though so I don’t knock anyone for what works best for their families.

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Jopie
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But you got an education and go back to work. They don't do anything. I saw a girl on a Dutch forum, 18 or so, finished high school and that was it. She didnt want to study nor work and her boyfriend was fine with it because his mom was a housewife too and they would get married in the future and get kids. She didn't even have kids yet. She wasn't even married.

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Danish Susanne
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thought that your wonderful husband may get sick and get fired, or die is so difficult to think, it seems many women cannot do it. But when I worked in a bank with loans for buying property I marvelled at how many women had cosigned loans for a house, with only the husbands name on the contract.

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Secret Squirrel
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Trad wife situation is no more precarious than having one partner stay at home with kids. Maybe it's just the mindset that the wife has no rights that is giving people this impression? Once you're not the wife, what's the point of continuing to submit, take your half/monthly maintenance cheques and keep making jam or whatever trad divorcees are into.

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Secret Squirrel
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the US, even if it's not an automatic 50/50 state, a SAH partner is entitled to have their lifestyle maintained, hence alimony or maintenance payments. On the other hand, if you are secretly hiding syphoning money away from your spouse, most judges will think you have more stashed than you actually have and the partner with the income may look more like an injured party.

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Irene Bucior
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you didn’t have a financial discussion BEFORE you married, both of you are stupid. If the money maker hasn’t made plans for the spouse’s future in case of death, you’re both stupid. If you aren’t familiar with divorce law in your state, you’re stupid. Everything from child support, college, living arrangements to possessions should be discussed long before it happens. If they don’t want to talk about these realities, DON’T MARRY THEM.. or, you’re stupid.

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C.O. Shea
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously? Did you learn nothing from we, the Boomers? Derp!

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Montanavanna
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe it is popular with the youth because, it seems, many want not to join the f****d up work force. Tradwife and SAHM are different! I am a SAHM partly because of the cost and partly because I did not my children spending a bunch of times with strangers before they could speak for themselves or be able to tell me if someone was hurting them. My youngest is 3. Once she is in school, I will be returning to the workforce. My husband and I did not have kids until 11 years into our marriage, 16 years into our relationship so we had our dynamics worked out by then. I will say this, we, together, plan for a future just in case we no longer have his income. Every relationship has its own culture.

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Kathy O'Sherry
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Screenshots of some idiot's giant face and TikToks of plastic people. Stop with this garbage. 👎 🗑️

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David
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont know why people feel the need to be so judgey on other peoples lifestyle choices. Some people want this lifestyle and love it, others do not want it. Just because you are on one side or the other of this, does not give you the right to be judgemental in this manner or denigrate people's choices.

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Kare Deter
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It isn't so much about taking sides, more about shining light on the downsides so women can make informed decisions and not just blindly follow.

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The Original Bruno
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Be aware of divorce laws, insurance, etc. Under traditional divorce laws, if a woman's a homemaker while the guy brings home a load of money, when they get divorced, she's entitled to maintain her living standard. (This is why although almost completely fictional, the husband murdering the wife rather than get a divorce was such a trope in TV murder stories.) And a good half-million term life insurance policy should gve a widow several years of income to level up her job skills. This is not to downplay how rough becoming a widow could be for a trad wife' there is a reason the Bible equates Christianity with seeing after widows and orphans. "Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their misfortune and to keep oneself unstained by the world" (James 1:27)

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ginshun
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn't have to be one or the other. You don't have to be without any skills or prospects for work, just because you choose to be a stay at home parent. My wife wasn't exactly a "trad wife" but stayed home with the kids when they were little, and now works part time while going to nursing school while they are teenagers / adults. Plus we have good life insurance, so she will be fine if something happens to me. There are many advantages of one parent or the other staying home and raising the kids when they are young though, assuming the other has a good enough job to support things on one income. Point being, not working and raising the kids for a few years, doesn't prevent you from bettering yourself at the same time. Marriage and parenting is about being a team, regardless of what form your home / work life takes.

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Katchen
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what distinguishes tradwives from stay-at-home-parents. Being a tradwife is not about being equal partners on a team, it’s “God is the head of man and man is the head of woman” b******t.

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Susie Elle
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2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The biggest mistake people make is to assume that they never change, that the other person will never change, or that situations that seemed rock-solid once will never change. Anything can change, that doesn't mean that you can never trust someone or something, what it means is that you always have to be able to cope with the alternative of what you were hoping for or trusting on, to the best of your ability. Don't become a doomsday prepper, just be smart. Prepare yourself for a future you didn't plan for.

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Tamra
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yes, exactly this. Even assuming you're partnered with a stable, loving, honest man, as age comes for you both, you're looking at an increase in possibility for heart attacks and stroke that can easily destroy that single income you've both been relying on.

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Weim Central
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Poverty in older women who where tradwives is real. Especially in the US where your health insurance is tied to your employment. Tradwife is not a job title.

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Upstaged75
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Thankfully my dad has provided well for my mom in case anything happens to him. She's been a housewife most of her life and lets him handle everything else. She's never lived alone as an adult or had to pay for/manage everything that entails. I personally can't imagine that, but I think a lot of 70's/80's housewives are going to be in the same situation.

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MoMcB
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even if you're very happily married, things can go wrong. My Mum and Dad were devoted to each other. My Dad died at 52 from a massive heart attack, very suddenly. Even though he left a decent amount of money from insurances and pensions, my mum still had to work. She had always worked part time, but if she hadn't? Having no skills or experience at over 50 is not good news when looking for work.

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SirWriteALot
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Dude here: I wouldn't have wanted my wife to be a tradwife ... imagine coming home and not being able to talk to your wife about work since she has no concept of what it involves and only hearing about what kid#1 broke and how kid#2 shat himself up to his neck. We each stayed at home for a year with a kid, wife kept her job and career as did I ... can't imagine any other way.

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Sweet Fanny Adams
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My sympathies, BP writer for having to transcribe that video. I don't hate things. Hate is a very strong word. I try not to let things bother me but if I could put names to things that have been getting me down they would be tiktok videos and reddit posts. Which is why I avoid those websites. I love Bored Panda website for their interesting articles and funny posts.

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Lady Miss Pie
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The tradwife movement is naive and even dangerous. That Estee what’s her name is AWFUL—smug, stupid, it’s just cosplay. They think older feminists are bitter old meanies but we have their interests at heart….A LOT of these trad wife influencers will be truly up a creek in several years because of their anti-feminist views and their hubris.

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Sunshine Lady
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I am SAHM at the moment, so probably tradwife? It's not traditional in my country. But before getting married and having kids, I got bachelor's and master's degree. I had really good paying job and I have no fear if I have to start again tomorrow. My security is not my man. In my country my health insurance and pension money are not tied to my husband or even my job. I always say that women need to have education, qualifications, job. It's easier to find a job if something happens suddenly if you already have experience and/or education.

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Little Wonder
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

SAHM and Tradwife are very different. The whole idea behind tradwives is to live entirely for their husbands, and to serve their families with lots of labour (although to be truthful, the tradwives on Tiktok are actually also selling products via amazon, so they can claim they "don't work" but they do, their whole account is a job). Tradwives are a lot more conservative, often religious and generally oppressed (The MAN of the house makes the decisions) . A woman who chooses to stay at home with her kids is not always a tradwife.

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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Honestly, how interesting a person are you when your life revolves around dishes and kids? You're also putting the mental load of supporting the family on the husband, who may be a good man, but does he deserve to have that pressure, knowing his wife can never support herself or be there for the children if something happens to him? I don't understand how anyone would want to be stuck in a life like that, not learning anything new, never having that sense of accomplishment that comes from being independent and providing for others. Even buying a gift that HE paid for?

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Alewa
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not sure how this works in the US, but in Germany once you marry, you and your spouse sort of become a company, meaning that everything either spouse earns during the marriage will be divided equally in case of divorce. There are exemptions, but at least there is some kind of security. I would still suggest to always be financially independent if possible.

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Cosmikid
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2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the US this varies with the state some being "everything is 50-50, and some with laws originating somewhere around 1200 CE under feudalism. Women need to know.

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Verena
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Even in countries with an overall solid social security, retirement and health system, which is funded by taxes and insurance fees paid by everybody, those widows who never had a working career of their own are poor. So even without divorce or early death of the husband, their financial situation is such as that they cannot keep the house/flat they shared with him as pensioner. Trad wives are poor trad widows.

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DB
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Another post bashing someone else's lifestyle choice because you don't agree with it.

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Becca not Becky
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I wonder if the younger generations' focus on mental health is playing a part. When we hear so much about toxic work environments, rude clients, dictator bosses, workplace violence/harassment, unfair pay, etc, why not just stay safe at home and have your day scheduled completely how YOU want it to be with everything provided for you? That's a pretty easy thing to glamorize. Not to mention a lot of places/cultures in the world still promote that.

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lustrous..xx
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2 weeks ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

not really, these tradwives are not of the 'younger generations' much more gen x, which is not the 'mental health' generation anyways. despite that its honestly more patriarchal and misogyny systems/themes that delude women and push them into it.

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Sweet Fanny Adams
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People making videos on tiktok earn money. They put out any rubbish. It says so right here... https://support.tiktok.com/en/business-and-creator

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Cierra Edens
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well some of us didn’t have a choice. We would have lost money at one point because of childcare. For 3 kids full time and one before and after school it would have been around 4k a month. Now we have 3 out of 4 kids in school and I’m going to work next year. In the decade I spent at home I got a teaching degree and graduated debt free. I love being a stay at home mom but it’s time. It’s what worked for us though so I don’t knock anyone for what works best for their families.

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Jopie
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

But you got an education and go back to work. They don't do anything. I saw a girl on a Dutch forum, 18 or so, finished high school and that was it. She didnt want to study nor work and her boyfriend was fine with it because his mom was a housewife too and they would get married in the future and get kids. She didn't even have kids yet. She wasn't even married.

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Danish Susanne
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2 days ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The thought that your wonderful husband may get sick and get fired, or die is so difficult to think, it seems many women cannot do it. But when I worked in a bank with loans for buying property I marvelled at how many women had cosigned loans for a house, with only the husbands name on the contract.

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Secret Squirrel
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Trad wife situation is no more precarious than having one partner stay at home with kids. Maybe it's just the mindset that the wife has no rights that is giving people this impression? Once you're not the wife, what's the point of continuing to submit, take your half/monthly maintenance cheques and keep making jam or whatever trad divorcees are into.

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Secret Squirrel
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1 week ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In the US, even if it's not an automatic 50/50 state, a SAH partner is entitled to have their lifestyle maintained, hence alimony or maintenance payments. On the other hand, if you are secretly hiding syphoning money away from your spouse, most judges will think you have more stashed than you actually have and the partner with the income may look more like an injured party.

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Irene Bucior
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If you didn’t have a financial discussion BEFORE you married, both of you are stupid. If the money maker hasn’t made plans for the spouse’s future in case of death, you’re both stupid. If you aren’t familiar with divorce law in your state, you’re stupid. Everything from child support, college, living arrangements to possessions should be discussed long before it happens. If they don’t want to talk about these realities, DON’T MARRY THEM.. or, you’re stupid.

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C.O. Shea
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Seriously? Did you learn nothing from we, the Boomers? Derp!

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Montanavanna
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Maybe it is popular with the youth because, it seems, many want not to join the f****d up work force. Tradwife and SAHM are different! I am a SAHM partly because of the cost and partly because I did not my children spending a bunch of times with strangers before they could speak for themselves or be able to tell me if someone was hurting them. My youngest is 3. Once she is in school, I will be returning to the workforce. My husband and I did not have kids until 11 years into our marriage, 16 years into our relationship so we had our dynamics worked out by then. I will say this, we, together, plan for a future just in case we no longer have his income. Every relationship has its own culture.

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Kathy O'Sherry
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Screenshots of some idiot's giant face and TikToks of plastic people. Stop with this garbage. 👎 🗑️

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David
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I dont know why people feel the need to be so judgey on other peoples lifestyle choices. Some people want this lifestyle and love it, others do not want it. Just because you are on one side or the other of this, does not give you the right to be judgemental in this manner or denigrate people's choices.

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Kare Deter
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It isn't so much about taking sides, more about shining light on the downsides so women can make informed decisions and not just blindly follow.

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The Original Bruno
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Be aware of divorce laws, insurance, etc. Under traditional divorce laws, if a woman's a homemaker while the guy brings home a load of money, when they get divorced, she's entitled to maintain her living standard. (This is why although almost completely fictional, the husband murdering the wife rather than get a divorce was such a trope in TV murder stories.) And a good half-million term life insurance policy should gve a widow several years of income to level up her job skills. This is not to downplay how rough becoming a widow could be for a trad wife' there is a reason the Bible equates Christianity with seeing after widows and orphans. "Pure and undefiled religion before God the Father is this: to care for orphans and widows in their misfortune and to keep oneself unstained by the world" (James 1:27)

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ginshun
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It doesn't have to be one or the other. You don't have to be without any skills or prospects for work, just because you choose to be a stay at home parent. My wife wasn't exactly a "trad wife" but stayed home with the kids when they were little, and now works part time while going to nursing school while they are teenagers / adults. Plus we have good life insurance, so she will be fine if something happens to me. There are many advantages of one parent or the other staying home and raising the kids when they are young though, assuming the other has a good enough job to support things on one income. Point being, not working and raising the kids for a few years, doesn't prevent you from bettering yourself at the same time. Marriage and parenting is about being a team, regardless of what form your home / work life takes.

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Katchen
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2 weeks ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is what distinguishes tradwives from stay-at-home-parents. Being a tradwife is not about being equal partners on a team, it’s “God is the head of man and man is the head of woman” b******t.

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