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Every house in the neighborhood looks nearly identical, with perfectly manicured lawns. There’s not a bike lane in sight, and it’ll take you at least 30 minutes to walk to the nearest shop. Trees are few and far between, and if you don’t own a car, you’re essentially stranded. That’s right, folks, we’re talking about the good old suburbs!

Below, you’ll find some of the most depressing posts from the Suburban Hell subreddit, a community advocating for more sustainable cities, as well as a conversation with Brett Stadelmann, Founder and Editor of Unsustainable Magazine. Whether you’re a resident of suburbia or not, be sure to upvote the pics that infuriate you the most, and remember that you’re not alone if you’re currently stuck in the suburbs!

#1

Defiant Family Refuse To Sell $50M Sydney Property To Developers

Defiant Family Refuse To Sell $50M Sydney Property To Developers

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Gary
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

thats a big property. Also those houses are so close together why not just make them terrace and be done jees.

Auntriarch
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Terraced! How dare you sir! We are prosperous enough to have a detached house. Ok so you can only just get your wheelie bin in between them, but it's the principle of the thing /s

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Sneaky Snake
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The family should plant trees and shrubs all around its border.

Manda Hart
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Yeah the planet has room for another 1 trillion trees, I've read, and we should be planting them. Shrubs at the edges of this farm property would be great. Trees would have to be well away from the edge tho, roots can disrupt the foundations and water drainage systems of nearby buildings. Tbh, I can't imagine my life without trees.

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Susan Bosse
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

There was a man in Texarkana who refused to sell his land. He had a home, cattle, etc,, in what was essentially the center of the newest shopping area. His family sold the land right after he passed. It kinda broke my heart. His homestead is now restaurants and stores. I always loved seeing his cows and knowing he refused to sell. It's all erased now but I'm sure the family got a pretty penny. Bleh.

Jessica Bertram
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

the Hispanic Cultural Center was built smack dab in the middle of Barelas neighborhood, one of the oldest areas of Albuquerque. One resident refused to sell, forcing the cultural center to be built around him, in a stunning irony, because he was EXACTLY the cultural identity the center was to represent. literally around him. it's in the middle of an empty parking lot. 🥺

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Panda Kicki
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The grass is.def green, but I would really like to see some trees there. So vast and empty

Rowboat
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I agree but iirc the couple that own the place have young-ish kids so that might be influencing their decision to keep it as open space

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BC
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Would it kill you to plant a tree?!

Nicole Weymann
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

With the kind of money they likely have I'd build a biotope. Lake to swim in, small creek, dozens of local trees and bushes, wildflowers and a dozen places to sit and enjoy the different views.

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sbj
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Not worth 50 million anymore with all those neighbours

AndThenICommented
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Someone bought the milk bar next to my place and put up those awful, shoddy town homes that sell for $1.5mil a piece- councils don’t care about the community

DennyS (denzoren)
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only thing I don't like about it....there aren't any trees, I would have filled that property with trees.

oktopus
Community Member
2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Damn, I live in Tokyo and my house has more spacing between it and its neighbors than the new builds in that picture.

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To gain some insight on the topic of suburbs from a sustainability standpoint, we reached out to Brett Stadelmann, Founder and Editor of Unsustainable Magazine. Brett was kind enough to have a chat with Bored Panda and share his personal thoughts on suburbs. “I grew up in the suburbs of Melbourne, Australia, so for me, the suburbs feel perfectly natural and very balanced, between the fast pace of the city and the slower life of the country,” he shared. 

When it comes to the pros of living in the suburbs, Brett says, “You get all the cultural benefits of being near a city, such as services, culture, food, and job prospects, without some of the downsides such as poor air quality, noise, and overcrowding.”

On the other hand, Brett says some of the cons are, “Traveling anywhere does take time and results in emissions, and air quality still isn't perfect. You're completely at the mercy of your neighbors in terms of toxic airborne products they decide to use for cleaning, gardening, hobbies, and the like.”

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    It's Almost Dystopian

    It's Almost Dystopian

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    Petra Schaap
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yeah. one time friends dropped us in a big mall somewhere in PA and they would pick us up later. We did some shopping and had food and then tried to figure out how to cross the busy road to get to the other half of the mall, by foot as we didnt have a car with us. No sidewalk or bicycle path in sight.We went back to the restaurant and asked them, they said "nobody ever does that 0_0" and "i wouldnt do that" We ended up having some more drinks there and waited for our friend to pick us up so we could travel the 100 meter to the other side of the mall -_-

    Karin Jansen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Who.. why.. what?? Who would design a mall like that? What mad man would do this?

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    Blondie23
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The city I live in has a tree ordinance that basically says there has to be a certain amount of trees in relation to the concrete that is laid. It's to help keep the city feeling more natural and not such a concrete jungle. The downside of that is..... builders will leave trees in places that prevent the city from putting sidewalks in. So while we have a ton of trees in this city... the sidewalk situation sucks.......

    Loanni Kerris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In my neighborhood the sidewalks are built so that they go around the trees. Best of both worlds...

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    Justin Walsh
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand. I live in the suburbs and simply walk out my front door, down my walkway, down the driveway to the sidewalk and... get this... WALK.

    xczechr
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, the original post isn't as clever as it sounds. It's probably made up, unless the people in question drive to a very nice park or something.

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    BenMaharaj
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’m sure there’s nothing stopping them from walking outside their house. They probably just want to walk in a park or something.

    Ripley
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some suburbs don't have footpaths (sidewalks). You quite literally have to walk on the road to get anywhere.

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    Amanda Hunter
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't understand how the US hasn't learned from Europe on how to create a human friendly housing development and towns.

    Arenite
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, people driving to the gym always baffled me. Walk or jog there, get the exercise benefits without having to pay!

    Celtic Pirate Queen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I only live a couple of miles from the Willamette River in Oregon. The riverwalk trail is really scenic, but to GET there I have to drive. Walking from my house is just not feasible as the most direct route is a long and very steep winding road that would kill me in no time.

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    As far as making suburbs more environmentally friendly, Brett told Bored Panda, “Every neighborhood should have a group looking at sustainability, increasing natural spaces, reducing traffic, promoting recycling, etc. If you can't find one, start one, because more and more people want to be involved in something positive.”

    And if you’re considering moving to the suburbs, Brett says, “If you're from the city, get used to driving more, a lot more. If you're from the country, expect a much higher density of population.”

    If you’d like to learn more about how we can be kind to our environment, regardless of where you live, be sure to check out Unsustainable Magazine right here!

    #3

    Thought This Belonged Here If It’s Not Already

    Thought This Belonged Here If It’s Not Already

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    James S
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Forgive me but what is a "stroad"?

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    Shannon Hawks
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    kids don't go outside because they can do anything besides worry about some moron on there phone running them over, being shot for no reason or being abducted by some sick bastard

    BC
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, this depends on where you live. I’m in the ‘burbs, ten minutes from the airport, and have parks, gardens, and markets all around. Vote for better councils, vote for governments who have your interests at heart, or at least pretend to. Then they might do the bare minimum at least.

    SadieCat17
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nowadays it's pretty much just mildly bad and bad to choose between

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    MezzoPiano
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to mention that old people are now calling the cops on kids playing outside unsupervised.

    Tyranamar Seuss
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think it's old people doing that. In past generations kids were encouraged and expected to be out alone. This obsession with non-stop supervision of kids is very modern.

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    Black Rabbit
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfair, because this clearly isn’t a residential area nor an area with a park. While green spaces are fewer, they exist. Most people just don’t want to be outside much because air conditioning and WiFi are great.

    Whitney McCrum-Morrison
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not residential? This looks exactly like where I live. On the street right behind the businesses. Loads of people live in towns like this.

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    Gardener of Weeden
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Live in the "outskirts"? No parks, no sidewalks, bus stop a mile and a half away and a total food desert , the drivers think every side street is a flippin racetrack. If we want to walk our dog more than around the "block". we have to drive about 10 miles to a dog friendly park. This is how the poor neighborhoods are treated. (at least we have low crime around us)

    Lyone Fein
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have to say there are always conflicts between factions that want to increase a town's tax revenue by encouraging both housing and business development, and others who want to preserve the community atmosphere of having a small town. There are advantages to either choice. But development should always occur within the a comprehensive plan that envisions every expansion in terms of a city's livability.

    Dasha
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Kind of looks like where I live lol

    Susan Mack
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah that's yuck. But have you ever seen photos of kids playing outside tenement buildings back in the '30s and '40s?

    Tyranamar Seuss
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. People used to not freak out if they saw a kid playing outside.

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    Leigh
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looks like se portland. The sidewalks are atrocious. Fortunately, I don't live far from the biggest inner city park in the nation. It has cougars and bears.

    Donny Cromwell
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    SE isn't that bad, but if you live near NW it might be hard for you to tell the difference. If it looked like SE Portland you would still see mountains in the background. I get what you're saying. 82nd. Has some similarities with this but this is still worse by quite a bit

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    Even if you’ve never experienced living in the suburbs first hand, you likely have an image in your mind of what they're like from countless American films and TV shows. Huge neighborhoods filled with exclusively large houses that have front and back yards and no grocery stores or shops within walking distance. If you’re lucky, the roads are safe enough to bike on, but more likely than not, cars are a necessity to get anywhere, even if it’s only a mile away. If you do live in the United States, there’s a pretty good chance you have lived in suburbia at one time or another, as according to the 2020 census, there are approximately 130 million Americans living in some form of suburbs.

    And while you might be thinking that living in the suburbs is an outdated desire, you might be surprised to find out that many people still choose to move outside of urban areas. In fact, the Pew Research Center has found that Americans have become more likely to prefer living in suburbs since the pandemic. Between 2018 and 2021, the percentage of people who prefer living in cities has gone down by 4 points, while the percentage of people who prefer suburban areas has increased by 4 points. Some of the reasons people may prefer suburbs are having a quieter environment, being able to work remotely, and finding cheaper housing and larger spaces.

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    #4

    Never Forget What Was Taken From Us

    Never Forget What Was Taken From Us

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    Sonja
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For everyone wondering, that's Schnoor, a historical part of Bremen in Germany.

    The Scout
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, the nearest Walmart is certainly much more than 30 miles away (more like several hundred miles away), as this is Bremen (Schnoorviertel) and Walmart does not operate in Germany any more... But I am certainly glad to live in a country where places like this are plenty. Actually there is a recent trend to bring the people to the inner cities again instead of having big malls out of town. Unfortunately this does not work well in a car-centered society, as in close city quarters the best way to get places usually is on foot.

    Petra Schaap
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    a german street thats still there and no walmarts in the whole country, not sure what they're trying to say.

    Lyone Fein
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Where were towns like this replaced by suburbs with Walmarts?

    Nina
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Afaik, nowhere. This never was in the us, so it's kinda hard to replace it there. (Walmart isn't in europe)

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    Stephanie Klein
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live close to it, worth a visit when it‘s snuggle-weather.

    xolitaire
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh hey, das ist Bremen! Lange nicht dagewesen.

    SadieCat17
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This whole post is very american. Of course european countries have issues, but I loves the cobblestone roads, car free areas in the cities, the wide breadths of forest land between towns when I lived in germany. This image doesn't even look that unique to me, come move to germany pandas.

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    #5

    Thought This Was Fitting For This Sub

    Thought This Was Fitting For This Sub

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    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And HOAs are fighting against people having natural, sustainable, area plants in front yards because it doesn't "look good" & everything doesn't match. Luckily, some states have made it illegal for HOAs to NOT allow these types of yards. Wish Texas would do it

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously. F**k how it looks, I want nature to feel good. Sterile green, chemically treated, fertilized, and weeded lawns are a bore in comparison to the color and activity of wilder, more natural lawns.

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    tuzdayschild
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS! I wish we would all grow indigenous plants instead of grass. It's prettier.

    LK
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Choose plants protected by law. Then they can't force you to remove them.

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We live in an old house just outside the city limits of a rural farm town. What actual beautiful grass there may have been planted decades ago is long gone and replaced by other low growth, plus dandelions, clover, wild violets, buttercups, and other wild ground plants. We also have some very old growth lilacs, orange blossom, dogwood, forsythia, and honeysuckle—-very old honeysuckle vines eventually become trees, btw. There’s a meadow and woods behind us, so our lawn is busy with bees, butterflies, hummingbirds, dragonflies, birds, squirrels, rabbits, foxes, deer, and a load of other animals, insects, and plants. We don’t want a well manicured lawn, because it would be f*****g boring without all the color and activity of a wilder, more natural lawn. Bet you can guess there’s no homeowners association out here, thank goodness. Because we would be fighting them tooth and nail to preserve the good thing we’ve got going on right outside our door.

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dear God, this! Let th enative plants roam! And screw yards. Why does anyone want a big piece of high maintenance?! That's farm land! Grow food!

    Shashonie
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We are slowly replacing there terrible scrub grass we have with a garden and native plants. The back was reseeded with some grass and clover.

    Petra Schaap
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    at least they have a lawn. Here in Belgium its a thing to replace your yard with grey gravel :-( I think theres a law now that wont alow this anymore.

    Dasha
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve seen people replace their lawn with concrete before. Wish there was a law against it

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    Jane Cortez
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dandelions are bees first good in the spring. Wonder why the bird population has plummeted by half since 1970? Insecticides, fungicides, herbicides. Natural is good. Please, please plant as much as you can! Am very sad today about what is happening to our world.

    Barbara Stewart
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mine is green like this but they're all weeds, does that count.

    Agamemnon O'Neill
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Friends in the US have clotheslines banned! Insane.

    Apple Jakes
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These are all nonsense arguments

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    #6

    Land Use Matters

    Land Use Matters

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    🇷🇺ЛеснойКороль(they/he)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    as someone who grew up in soviet bloc housing, this repulses me. You say block housing is bad, and then basically manspread like this? no wonder we have no environment anymore.

    Luke Branwen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Calling this urban nightmare "manspreading" is genius on so many levels.

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    Manda Hart
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    With 8 billion people on the planet we need better urban design solutions. Not-so-high blocks of well-built and adequately soundproofed blocks are a better solution. When those blocks have 'living terraces' of plants and the spaces between buildings are green areas with trees and plantings, everyone wins. Even the wildlife.

    Black Rabbit
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Popular locales mean more people move in, which requires more housing, which requires more land to be engineered, which results in smaller natural areas. It seems a little sad, but it’s logical.

    Tyranamar Seuss
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have you ever gone to a museum where they talk about the collapse of the Mayan civilization? Basically they paved over all the trees. This changed the environment from a rain forest to a desert. Their crops died. Their people starved. "Logical" would include vegetation between living spaces. Whether that is little yards, or greenery on balconies.

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    Beck
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live 10 minutes from a wildlife refuge. Hundreds (thousands?) Of acres of trees and wildlife.

    Tyranamar Seuss
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How does this relate to the issues brought up in said picture? I mean I'm happy for you, but this sucks. And you can't build housing on a wildlife refuge. We need better city planning.

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    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right side picture looks like a before the invasion & the left side picture is the aftermath!!😠 Leave some green space to remember the better way to live!!

    Paula Oshinski
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Native Americans were so right.. man brought nothing but destruction

    Lavern Defazio
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is Phoenix Az. Despite a hold on new developments aside from ALREADY APPROVED subdivisions, the rate of growth is scarey. Many of these new homes are already falling apart. Its sad because there are huge undeveloped plots of land within central city limits and lets not forget massive parking lots. Scarey indeed.

    StankleBerry
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The lies of industry and capitalism

    Jane Cortez
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    EXACTLY! Industry, corporations are the culprits… ‘Reduce your carbon footprint,’ they say. Really? Why aren’t all cars electric? Cha Ching! Because without oil, the economy would collapse. This is the insane rhetoric we are inundated with while consumption, consume! Consume! Societies are BUILT on buying, discarding, conforming. It isn’t a coincidence that after WW2 that with new prosperity came consumption and with each decade, the Earth has died more.

    Analyn Lahr
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Instead of building more housing developments and apartments, maybe humanity can cut back on reproducing for awhile.

    Loanni Kerris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That will not change the way of life we are suffering from

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    On the other hand, however, some people view living in the suburbs as an absolute nightmare. That’s where the Suburban Hell subreddit comes in. This community, which describes itself as being “about suburbs, how bad they are, how ugly they are and solutions against them,” has amassed nearly 57k members since 2015. The group does an excellent job detailing why suburbs aren’t always the most sustainable or reasonable way of living. From aerial views of cities showing exclusively asphalt and pavement to images of kids crossing major roads just to get to school, Suburban Hell has it all!

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    These photos point out how the land used in many suburbs could have been utilized much more effectively, providing additional housing, additional greenery and more sustainable ways of transportation than simply driving cars. According to Untapped New York, the first American suburb was Levittown, Long Island, which became what we now consider suburban in the 1940s. Today, however, over half of the households in the US would consider their neighborhoods “suburban,” rather than urban or rural. 

    #7

    Car-Dependency Destroys Nature

    Car-Dependency Destroys Nature

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    Isabella
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I had met few months an American lady who was genuinely surprised why in Europe the streets in old towns are so narrow and why there are so many block of flats, when there is much green space "unused" where people could build houses!

    Emie N.
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I swear, not all Americans are the same.

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    Claire Bailey
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fine if just one block of100 apartments built, but what happens when they build 10, 20, 50 blocks of 100 apartments?

    Annik Perrot
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's the trouble. They'll never stop at one. They'll build those 100 apartments ith à lush green view, sell them, then build another complex right in front, etc...until the island is full of buildings and not à tree in sight.

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    eame
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This would be great if they built soundproof apartments. I don't want to hear my neighbours f*****g at 5am. Too many apartments ruined by noisy a******s.

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Apartment living wouldn't be so bad if we each had some small green space to use - for gardening, grilling, playing with our children, just to hang out in privately. But few, if any, have this

    Megan Humphries
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This too. I can't imagine having kids or dogs in an apartment and not having places where they can play. I know there can be parks, but to me it is not quite the same.

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    Gardener of Weeden
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Are the people who draw these maps etc. living in these apartments? or do they have he peace of living not under nor over someone? Why is there so much more crime in the crowded cities? Personally I HATE living under running loud children.

    howdylee
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Alternatively, some of us DON'T WANT TO HEAR OUR NEIGHBORS! Footsteps, music, dogs, yelling, etc. I personally prefer to have my own bit of land to get away from other people's business!

    Judith Remkes
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That goes for most of us, but I can't afford it, also humanity can't afford for everyone to live like that.

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    Monday
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well there are worse hills to die on. At least on this hill you'll have grass!

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    Megan Humphries
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get the point, but I live in Orlando, Florida and at least here people want houses because morons can't learn how to live in apartments without disturbing everyone else all the time. Even in pricier places. Also, the price for what you get is horrible here.

    Johnny Cakes
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Apartments suck. I live in one. Neighbors can be loud and annoying. Many downsides. Lol at them only putting one apartment building on that island. More like as many as can fit. Either way, land gone

    Black Rabbit
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I desire privacy and freedom to do what I want without bothering or being bothered by a neighbor above, below, or beside me, or being bothered by some landlord for making changes they don’t like.

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    #8

    I've Noticed This Weird Disconnect With Reality Surbubanites Have

    I've Noticed This Weird Disconnect With Reality Surbubanites Have

    LibrightWeeb941 Report

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've seen both in my city. But the top one is too expensive for most people

    Roan The Demon Kitty
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The above picture is the Cotswolds, not many people actually live there, as not only is it expensive, all the houses are snapped up by landlords and "airbnb" hosts etc as holiday homes. It means people who actually born there literally cannot continue living there, they're forced to move away because they can't buy a house in their own home. It's the same where I live, too. Though thankfully, my town passed a new vote that new houses now cannot become holiday homes (or something to that effect, can't remember fully)

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    Manda Hart
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The bottom photo is Anywhere USA, The top image is quaint EU villages where only the rich can afford to live. Something in between would probably frustrate the financial aspirations of urban planners and developers though.

    Antony Aston
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The village is in the Cotswold in England - which is not in the EU.

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    Rostit .
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This isn't how people think it looks. I don't know why the person who made this was thinking. It's just wrong on so many levels in at a loss as how to explain it

    I heart Boo-BI-es
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    Premium
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Never realized Jeep made a stretch limo version of its Cherokee..🤣

    Black Rabbit
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bottom is not a residential area. Misleading people is uncool.

    KatZen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im a suburbanite and I hate it. Never in a million years would I see it like that first image. This meme maker acts like we have a clear choice to leave the burbs for a city or village utopia. It’s not like that in the US. Schools, jobs, and finances tie us to this he|| hole.

    Fish Fingers
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those sentence structures are causing my brain to leak.

    Marie Godfrey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The top picture look like The Cotswolds in the U.K. which is definitely not suburbia.

    zgillet
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only thing I see in the top picture is "high-maintenance."

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    #9

    Honest Design

    Honest Design

    shmeeandsquee Report

    SkyBlueandBlack
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's just their commentary on Omaha.

    DrLivingstonipresume
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I get it, go for the obvious and easy joke, but it's actually a really charming city and I had an incredible time and met some amazing people when I visited several years ago.

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    SparkleFarts
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The one on the right also says lol

    H.J. carlson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just plain ugly carp. What happened to vision and style? Build better and use some imagination!!

    Cassi Lyris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    At least the designer was being honest. "Fugly" would've been too hard to sneak on there.

    Joanne Hicks
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Born, raised, and currently living in Omaha, I can vouch that "poop" houses exist.

    Gary Harkins
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Y'all really reachin with this one. This is one of the worst threads I've seen in this site

    Loanni Kerris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I thought they were all pastel green with shingles

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    Suburbs are often criticized for being poor uses of space, destroying natural habitats, polluting water, wasting resources and exacerbating housing crises. But among all of the problems that crop up in suburbia, Chris Weller at Insider says there may actually be an evolutionary reason why the suburbs feel like a hellscape. He explains that two things that humans have natural preferences for, socialization and well-defined spaces, are made much more difficult when living in suburbs. When we live in large homes with yards and pools and drive everywhere, we encounter people out and about much less than if we were to live in an apartment building with a courtyard and had to walk down the street or ride public transportation to get around. Suburbs make it incredibly easy to isolate ourselves and avoid interaction.    

    #10

    The "I Live In The Suburbs For The Peace And Quiet" Starter Pack

    The "I Live In The Suburbs For The Peace And Quiet" Starter Pack

    JagVillBliFull Report

    SkyBlueandBlack
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    TBF, the dogs and loud cars are 24/7.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Depends on the neighborhood. I mean, expect kids to play, because you did it too at that age. As long as they’re not being mistreated, welcome people with pets, because walking a dog is a great icebreaker for new arrivals to get to know everyone, and older residents to have a starter topic for conversation. Be glad people are tending to their houses and yards, it makes the neighborhood look nice. Loud cars/trucks, and the accompanying loud stereos ARE an annoyance and an issue that the entire neighborhood needs to nip in the bud if possible. It is noise pollution. Over specified decibel levels, as well as after a specific time at night and before a specific time in the morning are all illegal, so neighbors may have to alert law enforcement to an ongoing issue.

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    Black Rabbit
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Doing any kind of loud yard work before 8am should be considered disturbing the peace.

    John G
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Luckily more people are going electric for the lawn equipment. I started with corded mower when we bought the house. Upgraded to battery 4y ago. Next door neighbor went battery two years later when his two year old gas mower stopped working. Then the guy on the other side got a battery powered mower. I see a lot more when walking the dogs. Even the Trumper flag person around the corner along with his solar panels.

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    Stary_cat
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There’s always that person using power tools from 9am to 9pm on any street. That person is my dad 🫥

    Vira
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's really not that bad. Not compared to a city. Though I swear there is ALWAYS that ONE neighbor that seems to do everything in their power to make as much noise as possible no matter what. Slam doors. Ride ATVs up the road. Rev engines. Run electric tools constantly. Fireworks. Everything they do, they do it loudly.

    Willy Nilly
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bored old dudes using their leaf blower’s to get that one leaf off their driveway. It’s absolutely ridiculous.

    M O'Connell
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My neighbor even manages to use his when there's snow on the ground!

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    detective miller's hat
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We had a neighbour when I was a kid who would literally spend ALL EFFING DAY out with his leaf blower. To preserve evidence, there is still a VHS tape in my mother's house of my fifth birthday. It is about 3 hours long, and you can hear the leaf blower going throughout the entire thing.

    Wendy O'Shea
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We have a car and truck that roam around making so much noise and speeding down stretches of road. Sometimes at night you can here them run into things. It I usually quiet for a few day after that.

    Marowynn
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny thing is I live in a densely packed city neighborhood and yet it's pretty quiet at night. Grew up in the country and the insects were far noisier.

    Paula Oshinski
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    City noise is so much worse. I've lived the farm life and the vegas life. City is worse

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    #11

    What A Cute Garage, Even Looks Like A House!

    What A Cute Garage, Even Looks Like A House!

    theywasinthetrees Report

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A 4 car garage? It's bigger than the house is!

    Mike Clark
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a duplex. Two 1600 square foot homes, with 440 square foot garages built as one building. The bulk of the homes are physically at the rear to enjoy more focus on the yard more than the street, which makes more sense for garages.

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    Taibhse Sealgair
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's actually a two "house", 2-BR Duplex. One 2-BR house is on the left side, the other on the right. Not sure why anyone would want these, but a reverse image search confirmed what it is.

    Brocken Blue
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah I mean I dislike houses with prominent garages as much as the next person, but this is definitely a duplex

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    Cassi Lyris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    BUT BUT BUT, IT CAN FIT MY RV INSIDE IT! My temporary movable house has to be covered up according to the HOA...

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think that’s a duplex !

    Rostit .
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not my thing but I don't see the problem

    H.J. carlson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's a garage with an add-on office space. Not in any way a true house 🏡🙂

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    #12

    How A Suburb Should Look: 1. Built Around Train Station 2. Everyone Within A 10 Minute Walk 3. Human Scale

    How A Suburb Should Look: 1. Built Around Train Station 2. Everyone Within A 10 Minute Walk 3. Human Scale

    ResolutionImaginary2 Report

    Victoria
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I vas born in Dusseldorf and that is why they call me Rolf *tap dances*

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    Demosthenes
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How to build a suburb when you’ve had a shortage of land since the 1500’s.

    Skye Ragsdale
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can someone please explain to me what "human scale" means in this context?

    Game Line
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, who woulda guessed europeans are actually sensible people

    Clay Tom
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Until the freight trains run through all night blowing there horns. See how happy you all are then about the train in the middle of town

    Frank Miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't argue with that concept at all.

    bill marsano
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not going to happen, not in a suburb. On the other hand, in my part of NYC--known as Hell's Kitchen--I have all of that and way more, most of it LESS than 10 minutes' walk away. The City is man's greatest invention.

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    Another reason Weller notes that makes residents’ lives much more difficult in suburbs is the “lack of planned order found in urban environments.” When you don’t have a lot of space available, you have to be wise with how you use it. Your apartment building might have a grocery store and a coffee shop on the first floor, and trees often line city sidewalks, as they have nowhere else to go. But in suburbs, where everything is designed to make it easier for cars to get around, the pedestrian experience is often ignored. The planning just doesn’t make sense, and when we don’t have defined walking and biking paths, we don’t feel comfortable or at ease trying to maneuver around without a car. 

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    #13

    Car Dependency

    Car Dependency

    gonanners Report

    Brenda
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looks like LA traffic. Even Houston isn't that bad. Unless there is a major problem

    Oktogal
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Could be DC traffic, stuff can get BAD around here!

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    Burnt Bagel
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just looking at this photo gives me anxiety!

    Dasha
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is why I catch the train

    Cassi Lyris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ahhhhh the I10 into San Bernardino before the LA/San Diego split... Not only is it as awful as this picture indicates, it's actually WORSE.

    Lavern Defazio
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Several states now have laws that say methane gas is a.clean energy source. Most recently Tennessee. Bribery from gas companies is all it comes down to.

    Colin
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know this picture isn't it but it could easily pass for the 401 around Toronto.

    Black Rabbit
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Take a peek at the unfriendly environmental practices of places like China, Philippines, and India and quit demonizing America.

    Lee Stone
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't think we're demonizing America writ large, but even if we were, we're adults here and can do both. Seems a bit of a cop out to suggest we don't need to put in the work to improve just because someone else isn't.

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    fubukifangirl
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shows a picture of CITY traffic and still blames suburbs. Aight.

    Clay Tom
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So with electric cars there will be no traffic? I guess flys cause garbage also now?

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    #14

    Where Suburban Sprawl Meets An Indian Reservation In Scottsdale, Arizona

    Where Suburban Sprawl Meets An Indian Reservation In Scottsdale, Arizona

    etxxn Report

    xolitaire
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We sure know where all the water goes

    Midnightoil
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The majority of the water goes to crops grown in California. The cities recycle your house water back to you. Cities are drinking treated sewage. Well water across the country is also contaminated in most areas now. Between cattle and fertilizer and fecal matter in every natural water source around USA there is no longer clean natural water.

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    CP
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Grass yards in the desert should be a crime.

    ImaPerson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Nevada they pay you to change it to eco-friendly rocks! And in most places in Arizona desert landscaping is the norm!

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    Elchinero
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I lived right at the lower RH corner (of Pima Road) and the Rez ...

    H.J. carlson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugly, city planning. No vision or better way for people to live.

    Azure Adams
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yup and its so gross. I hate snobsdale and the snobsdalians

    Cassi Lyris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And they're trying to cut the water to the reservation. It's awful.

    Demosthenes
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For internal reference, ignore the title of this post and choose which side of the picture you would like to live in.

    Juliana Blewett
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the SCROTUS says the government has no obligation to secure water for the hellhole that is the Navajo nation.🤬

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    #15

    I'll Take Mixed-Use, Walkable Urbanism Instead, Please

    I'll Take Mixed-Use, Walkable Urbanism Instead, Please

    Fried_out_Kombi Report

    H.J. carlson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right 👍. Better keep the country and just provide eco-friendly transportation to the city.

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    WFH is a boon to the environment, yet companies still want people to commute to the office. Take all the empty office buildings and convert them to safe, clean, and well kept housing for people making mid-range salaries—-housing that’s set up on a rent to own basis so people will take good care of it. If someone is making $30,000/yr, which isn’t minimum wage but still not enough to do much more than survive, asking for a fair rent that goes toward owning the apartment/condo in X number of years would be a great way for a lot of hardworking people to have at least a sliver of the American Dream of home ownership. Even if they only stay long enough to have enough equity to sell and buy another home—-which is the way it works. The buildings could also have a mix of young and old, with downsizing retirees moving in. The biggest caveat is to keep the prices reasonable. No flippers or foreign investors allowed to buy, never live there, or artificially increase prices. No speculators, no greedy landlord/property management company. No funding cuts reducing management and maintenance staff, which reduces the liveability of the units, building, and grounds (as happened to post WWII housing projects by the sixties). Recycling old office space would be a long term project that would have to be a consistently well-funded top priority, run by honest people who are in it for the greater good instead of greed, for it to work. Anyway, I’m just spitballing here. But it does sound like a good idea to me.

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    Black Rabbit
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I literally have never seen or heard anyone with such a mentality because it’s pedantic and childish.

    Apple Jakes
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Thank you! These are all misguided arguments

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    Raven Sheridan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't forget, die in a pod! ⚰️

    RJ
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But did you have to force them?

    Dasha
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Reminds me of SpongeBob

    fubukifangirl
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But people go through the same thing, except they come home to tiny studio apartments the size of broom closets while suburban folks go home to a nice comfortable house.

    Tree P
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can have it too. Looks like Hell to me.

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Right! I prefer living on the 12th floor of a smelly, crowded apartment building, surrounded by other smelly apartment buildings !

    Tristan J
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't forget exorbitant service charges and lack of control over the building you reside in

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    Burnt Bagel
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope…just live in the woods!

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    If you’re concerned about the environment (which, let’s face it, who isn’t these days?), you might want to become an advocate for urban areas over suburbs too. According to the Organization for World Peace, suburban sprawl is a major contributor to climate change. They explain that the reliance on vehicles suburbs have created greatly increases suburbanites’ greenhouse gas emissions and use of fossil fuels. Large homes require lots of energy to maintain, while housing small amounts of people.   

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    #16

    𝒜𝓂𝑒𝓇𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓃 𝒟𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓂 (Before And After)

    𝒜𝓂𝑒𝓇𝒾𝒸𝒶𝓃 𝒟𝓇𝑒𝒶𝓂 (Before And After)

    An inner city suburb of Detroit. It was formerly known as “Black Bottom” Before they obliterated it with the highway, as it was a predominantly African American neighborhood.

    Lyr_c Report

    Hawkmoon
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately, America was not the only country affected by the "everything for the car". This trend wreaked havoc in every country in the world around the 1960s. Even my small, historically rich town of 200,000 (founded in the 6th century) suffered havoc for building expressways.

    Nessa Sue
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was racially motivated...it wasn't just about transportation

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    LK
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Highways in America were a way of demolishing predominantly black areas, and caused the disintegration of many communities. You can be sure the new road networks did not go through rich, white areas.

    Dela Bee
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Came here to mention this. Thanks. The EPA has really great environmental justice tools to see the set up and execution of minority community redlining in US urban areas. Now that they, ya know, admit that they did it.

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    Alexandru Bucur
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, this was very much on purpose. The modern interstate system is the brainchild of a New York urban planner called Robert Moses who turned out to be incredibly racist, so he planned most of the interstates through the middle of African-American communities and on one of his roads made the bridges very low, so that entire neighborhoods and parks would be inaccessible to public transit buses, thereby restricting "the use [...] by poor and lower-middle-class families" who did not own cars. While in the case of “Black Bottom” (so-called because of the fertile topsoil in the area and not because of the people living there) Chrysler Freeway itself was not designed by Moses, pretty much all urban planners from the time were either his pupils or subscribed to his views and ideas.

    Vidas Zlioba
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Interstate bridges are a minimum of 13'6" (4.1m) for the sole purpose of allowing missile-transporters. You must be thinking of other (not interstate) bridges.

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    Verena
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most of it is still there, photos were taken from different places. Start at the church for comparing them.

    walkabout
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Regardless of what your eyes see and what you so cleverly regard as comparison most of it is not there. There were once homes and businesses where that stretch of highway is located now. The irony is that the concrete was barely dry (hyperbole) when Detroit's auto industry began the downturn. I live in Detroit.

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    ADJ
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Is this design of highway common in USA? I see striking similiarity to highway in GTA San Andreas, specifically Las Venturas ringway.

    Brocken Blue
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fairly common. It helps that the government issues a book with recommended and required highway designs. Safety requirements result in very similar looking high-volume highways in most here.

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    Helen Davies
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can see the same pointy structure in both pix. So that particular street was not obliterated, at least not yet!

    JP Purves
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And now there's no one on the highway because half the population has left. Detroit has been on its deathbed for nearly fifty years.

    Miss Revelle
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many of America's lakes and parks were also once thriving black neighborhoods (example: Central Park in NY, Millerton Lake in CA)

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    #17

    1979 Advertisement For London Transit Showing How The City Would Look If Built By American Planners

    1979 Advertisement For London Transit Showing How The City Would Look If Built By American Planners

    Wardt- Report

    oktopus
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looks not far off what 1960s British planners wanted to do with the place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Ringways

    Stannous Flouride
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tories: so let's privatise our railroads and destroy them.

    Marcus Lynch
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, that's not entirely accurate. We would have made a tunnel THROUGH Big Ben. Not a road around him.

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wish Houston had decent public transportation. Metro sucks! It only caters to those working downtown

    Rodive95
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I know right. The public transportation is not existent in Houston

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    Vermonta
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yikes! Rail is not a thing in USA, most tracks are in disrepair anyway.

    VioletHunter
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your country was literally built by the railroad. Every little town had a train station. Everything was connected by rail. Was. It got torn down.

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    Frank Miller
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You can't argue with rail commute provided the infrastructure is there to support it. That said, one of the reasons that America is so populated with cars is due to its sheer size. To get from one side of the country to the other is about a 4-day trek at best. We have so many cars because we used to be very very spread out and the majority of Americans did not live in cities.

    similarly
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is an advertisement for a train company. The idea is not necessarily "wrong", but I'd take it with a grain of salt

    James S
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is how London got the North Circular.

    Tom
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Rail prices (especially in London) are very high. I don't know how the f*****g government think that we can afford these ridiculous fees when they don't even have enough money to sort it out. Just leave us with electric cars and call it a day. Thank you.

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    #18

    Triacylglycerol Looking Like Any Suburb Ever

    Triacylglycerol Looking Like Any Suburb Ever

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    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same blue print used for a trailer park 🤣. Did you notice?!?

    Mike Clark
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Same design for prison cell arrangements. Efficiency tends to be a logical choice.

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    Timbob
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if you turn it 90 degrees, looks like a bunch of apartment buildings !

    P Switch
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Notice their two "H's" missing, Yeah they straight up and left to go somewhere more nicer

    DKH
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, this way the area isn't completely saturated with housing.

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    #19

    How Far A Pedestrian Has To Go To Cross A Street Using Crosswalks

    How Far A Pedestrian Has To Go To Cross A Street Using Crosswalks

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    STress (I/me)
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    ...and you let them convince you that jaywalking is a crime...

    summersalts
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some cities have a culture where jaywalking is normal- people just look where they're going and walk if there isn't a car closing in. The first time I walked around D.C. by myself, I texted my friend who was a native about the amount of jaywalking and they said "tbh I forgot it was a crime" I think it's cool when people are like "this is dumb, let's make this city walkable and cross when we can"

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    Leo Domitrix
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Having been nailed for jaywalking, I proudly say, just don't do it by the coffee shop (the Dunkin pictured is a cop go-to). Also, traffic islands are awesome pedestrian islands.

    Say What
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The city planners should be drawn and quartered

    Vermonta
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That looks like a commercial area. I don't see houses

    Carbonel
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Beside the point. Even commercial areas in the UK tend to have pavements and cross points. With the exception of purely industrial areas.

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    James S
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Hold your local Government to account for this by voting for people who think pedestrians, cyclists and public transport is as important as cars.

    Cassi Lyris
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if you jay walk you're liable to get hit by a car doing 75 in the 45 or ticketed by a bored cop...

    Weird Panda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But did anyone else notice S.U.S highway?!?

    The Original Bruno
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This makes no sense. Why can't the pedestrian walk from the first bend in the green path to the end of the green path? I'd be angry with the local government for failing to mark a crosswalk, but the absence of a "zebra stripe" doesn't make it a crime to walk there.

    Mike Clark
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And it's just inhumane that the suburbs expect people to park at an Optician so they can cross a State highway to get to the donut store. Such a better use of resources to provide mass transit.

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one ever gets ticketed for Jaywalking anymore.. it's not worth the cops or the courts time.

    Nolgoth
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In CA it is no longer a crime but i can tell you that yes people in other states get ticketed, or at the very least stopped by cops for jaywalking. It is an old jim crow era law and POC are disproportionately harrassed by cops for it.

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    #20

    Always The Same

    Always The Same

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    sbj
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These places are horrendous

    Doyle Alan
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They are building these in my area. Literally chopped down all the trees to put up cookie cutter houses, that are two feet apart, so people who live in big cities can come and move to the "country". And now everyone is complaining about the coyotes, fox and other wild life that are coming into our yards. Yes, I am VERY salty about this.

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    Black Rabbit
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’d rather live next to people in individual houses like that than in an apartment bloc where I can’t walk around or take a dump without a neighbor hearing it.

    naylene hess
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously though. People coping hard in these comments cause they are stuck in an apartment

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    Apple Jakes
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in the burbs. I have a full woodshop in my house. I have a dedicated area in my basement to hydroponics. I can weld/grind in my garage any time of the day or night and not bother a soul. Walking distance to 3 parks, a grocery store, and a hospital. Police/fire department/ambulance presence within 3 mins if desired. Low crime rate. Big shade trees with swings and hammocks. It might not be for everyone, but don't tell me there's no appeal.

    Piper
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live in a historic downtown area of our little town. We have yards, houses, quiet streets, big oaks, Spanish moss and the Mobile Bay in sight of our wrap around porch. People stand in the middle of the road and talk to each other *gasp*. Very low crime. We can walk to 4 little restaurants, my studio is 2.1 miles away. Grocery stores are a 5 minute drive. We have sidewalks for walking and 4 parks within walking distance. It’s hardly dystopian here either.

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    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Instead of being in a high-rise they just went horizontal! Same c**p problems just as close!! Wise up, people!!😠😰

    naylene hess
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Its literally not the same lol ive lived in both apartments and house and apartments were far far worse for mental health because i was horrified to get a noise complaint for doing literally anything

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    Cassi Lyris
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And there's no fūcking sidewalks either. The kids have to play in the roads. There's never enough space in the the individually fenced off yards. Bored teenagers usually destroy the actual parks. They're a failure from planning to execution.

    fubukifangirl
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There's literally sidewalks in this picture dude.

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    Ben
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    everything looks crappy from 10 thousand feet.

    Leo Domitrix
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My idea of "housing density" is "can see neighbor's farmhouse from mine". Where I am now, seeing their houses all the time is like he**, and I'm "in the country".

    Mike Clark
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Stack them up, put the windows on the outside and it is so much nicer than massive apartment blocks. And all those lovely parking lots to look at!

    Rostit .
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree. Apartment living sucks

    baby frog
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    it’s more ecologically friendly tho. i would rather live with a noisy-a*s neighbor above and below rather than hurt the environment

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    #21

    Florida 😍

    Florida 😍

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    Sour Scenes
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Appears to be separate neighborhoods. Probably built at different times by different companies. The road layout of the first wasn't created to connect to the other neighborhood because the other neighborhood was non-existent and probably just marshy area

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    James016
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Since you would never do that drive unless you were totally unhinged, what's the point of this?

    Adam Jeff
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe, hear me out here, the developers didn't think 'shorten the driving distance between any two points' should be their overriding design principle. The reason that many suburbs are designed by this is that most people actually like living on a street with no through traffic. And if you really want to visit your neighbour you could always try, umm, walking?

    Mike Clark
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, universal access to my neighbor's backyard is a goal now?

    scag$y
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, one shouldn't be expected to drive in order to steal tools from one's neighbour. It should be handy. Nip in, grab the lawnmower, nip out again. Having to drive there raises the question of whether or not one should employ a getaway driver. What if he squeals? Then one would have to hire some muscle to teach him a lesson. What if SHE squeals? It all becomes a little bit more confusing, you see. It's not even as if I *NEED* a lawnmower. I have my own (plus there's the one that I stole from Peter last summer - he has no idea!). I just want to see Brian's annoyed little face while he's looking for it. Hehe! I know where your mower is Brian. Ha! In your face, Brian.

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    SegFault
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neighborhoods are built this way specifically to manage car traffic. Americans' thinking is so focused on car use that only this madness will actually get them to WALK to their neighbors.

    Igor914624
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not quite as bad, but near me are two houses that are literally back to back, but to get from one front door to the other is 8 minutes and 2.8 miles of driving.

    Terran
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah yes, American cartards getting angry, because they need to walk a tenth of a football field like a bloody European.

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor planning? Or is it?

    Cassi Lyris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Florida in a nutshell, my dudes:

    David Paterson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This one. Many places have road networks that are designed to be as bad as possible. This one is one of the worst.

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    #22

    The American Dream 😍

    The American Dream 😍

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    Lyone Fein
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's the lack of greenery that makes it soulless.

    csnakey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every porch could have 2 trees and half of it could have tall grass and it's 20 times better both in looks and in animal friendliness

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    Tracy Wallick
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What kind of dystopian hellscape is this?

    DennyS (denzoren)
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't do this..especially after seeing Vivarium lol

    Beck
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh man that was a great movie! The ending came out of nowhere!!

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    Clearly sunny
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That would get so hot in summer without trees.

    Kimbowa
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This depresses me to my soul.

    And the like
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I need to know where this is exactly

    Mona Stevenson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    North Belmont Avenue in Lubbock, Texas. Where dreams go to die, apparently.

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    #23

    The Soulless Suburbs Of Omaha

    The Soulless Suburbs Of Omaha

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    Isabella
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some trees, bushes and flowers would make this place better.

    Sneaky Snake
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Apparently there is something called a HOA (Home Owner's Association), that wouldn't allow you to do that.

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    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Every new housing development in the US. No enhancement, you DIY the lot after you buy.

    𝐆𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐦-𝐏𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In some places, the HOA won't LET you DIY. Everything *must* stay uniformly the same. Because if one neighbor plants a tree, another shrubs, and still another flowerbeds, it might *clash* and "look chaotic". And judging from the flag on one house, the car in a driveway, and the basketball hoops - this neighborhood isn't new, it's lived in. But that's the point really. Keep everything the same as possible so human "clutter" doesn't make it look lived in.

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    Verena
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trees? Shrubbing? Flowerbeds? No?

    Charlotte Richards
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It looks like badly rendered video game graphics.

    mSpencer
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "little boxes on the hillside, little boxes made of ticky tacky"

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nebraska: Where fun died. Along with the color palette at the paint store, apparently.

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look how big the front yards are!

    Say What
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yet not a tree in sight. Another failed development.

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    Joanne Hicks
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is this any different than Denver, Des Moines, Kansas City, St Louis, Indianoplis, etc. ?

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    #24

    Get Your House Away From My House!

    Get Your House Away From My House!

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    Kathryn Baylis
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And the townhouses have room and small backyards, plus are generally older, well-established close knit neighborhoods where everyone knows and looks out for their neighbors. Now the upper right corner picture looks like a miserable place to live, unless all the back doors look out onto a beautiful wild landscape. Which they probably don’t.

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    James016
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bottom left is a very common thing in the UK and those houses are bigger than they look

    Malfar
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bigger on the inside, just make sure it doesn't turn into a police box

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    scag$y
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've quite liked living in flats (apartments) throughout my life. I think they would be more popular if they could be better soundproofed so that you don't have to hear it every time next doors hamster farts. Or other, worse things.

    Kate and Devin Lindsay
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm ngl I hate living in an apartment. I do hate being in such close proximity to so many people. Maybe because I've grown up in rural Nevada where we have nothing but space but I hate living around so many people and the constant noise and movement of a city.So now I live in Vegas (where we are more than just the strip btw) in a suburban area on the edge of town where it's quiet, but it's quite nice because my yard is full of a clover lawn and wildflowers for all the pollinators. I don't think it's good to vilify people who want space, but it's important to recognize the importance of nature and living with it not in spite of it.

    Anne
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They say "you've never left the suburbs if you hate this" no, I've just never had to experience the urban hell they drool over so much by living in the woods. I hate the idea of people living on top of each other because I can wander in the woods for hours and the idea of being *forced* to live with 100 other people makes my skin crawl.

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    Duck Syone
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The problem with these places is that they don't have thick enough walls. You can hear everything.

    Laura Kaye
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I like picture #2. But I love my house. I have 5 acres in the woods with no seeable neighbors

    Leo Domitrix
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    What gets me is the despising of terrace/row housing. Why? Do you *need* space that badly between your car and your couch?!

    MoMcB
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We lived in one, and it was a lot bigger than it looked, with huge high ceilings. Drafty af though.

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    Nykky
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I love tiny spaces, so the picture in the bottom left is actually nice to me. I could even do big community food gatherings too then!

    Joseph Grimmett
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's honestly really sad that the American government had to convince to people that socialism and communism are such horrible things. Capitalism causes way more problems than either, and it only works if people are considered completely expendable. People use Russia and China as an excuse as to why communism is terrible. It's not the communism that's terrible, it's the authoritarians that run those countries that are terrible, but no more so that the vast majority of American politicians.

    down quark
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Genuine question: where would you actually park your car in top right? Parking garage? Or do the buildings have small driveways? (I live in a suburban area, but I’m a minor so not by choice :) )

    pete
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, there's at least one driveway in the picture, but there's probably not many if any more. The idea is, if you live in a dense city, you walk/bike or take public transport instead of owning a car.

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    So what’s the solution to living in suburban hell? Well, according to the Organization for World Peace, it might come down to legislation. By implementing stricter government regulations on land development, communities could be required to use space and resources more sustainably and efficiently. Creating more housing in smaller spaces that uses less resources sounds like a win-win. People just have to keep an open mind and realize that living in a suburb might not be the happily ever after they always wanted. Perhaps taking better care of our planet and our communities is a bigger win.

    #25

    I Love Bikeable Cities 😍

    I Love Bikeable Cities 😍

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    ADJ
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Frankly, in Poland it is even illegal to drive bike on this kind of street.

    Midnightoil
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As it should be! Each time a road is built there should be a pedestrian and separate bike way. Times have changed- it is no longer safe to walk directly next to road.

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    Emily M
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The dead grass shows another of those 'desire paths' people keep mentioning in comments

    Mike Clark
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Missed that "No bicycles, farm implements or pedestrian access" sign when you rode your bike down the on ramp to the charming streetscape you chose.

    Tiny Dancer
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ironically, the new mayor of Toronto (Ontario, Canada), Olivia Chow, biked into her first day of work today with a bunch of fellow enthusiasts. Quite the scene in the heart of a major metropolitan city. 2023-07-12...4b-png.jpg 2023-07-12-64aec2cda884b-png.jpg

    Petra Schaap
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    in Belgium its super illegal to do that. I think you'll be picked up by the police within 5 minutes.

    Cassi Lyris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You'd be ticketed here for being on the wrong side of the road...

    ginshun
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    all cities are bikeable if you're brave enough. I actually like biking through cities.

    Michaelann Dahlman
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm Canadian, so my viewpoint is probably different than most. Back when I could still ride, I rode on 2 lane roads like this all the time, no problem. I would not feel comfortable using a grass path like this person is^ Also, its illegal to ride on the sidewalk (back in the early 90s, the fine was $167!)

    Sarah Schumm
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re biking against traffic anyway. You don’t belong on a bike in the first place if you do that. You’re a risk to yourself and other cyclists.

    Gareth Baus
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On a road like that matching the speed of traffic is usually impossible, so everyone is much better off with you being able to see the danger coming.

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    #26

    Students And Parents Must Scale Wall In Order To Travel Between School And Their Homes

    Students And Parents Must Scale Wall In Order To Travel Between School And Their Homes

    Location Pflugerville, Texas, USA.

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    Gary
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They probably don't but people will find the easiest route and planning should allow for that.

    Ace
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a 44 minute walk, apparently. Link copied from Rediit https://www.google.com/maps/dir/30.4224136,-97.6480992/Barron+Elementary+School,+PfISD,+14850+Harris+Ridge+Blvd,+Pflugerville,+TX+78660,+United+States/@30.4191936,-97.6612747,15z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x8644cf194de32e89:0x88bc7fcd6355a1a3!2m2!1d-97.6474995!2d30.4232982?entry=ttu

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    Miguel Arista
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And here i thought Texans were against people climbing a wall in search of an easier/better life....

    Cate
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a "desire path" and planners should have foreseen this.

    robin aldrich
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A GATE!!! could no one put a gate there?

    Burnt Bagel
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    pflugerville? How the f**k do you even pronounce that?

    Zephyr343
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The "p" is silent. So phonetically, it is flu-ger-ville.

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    H.J. carlson
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This looks more like a cut-through pathway they thought of rather than walk around!

    Wim Cossement
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's because they don't want 'em to be educated.

    Susan Bosse
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd hate for part of that wall to fall down in the middle of the night.

    Colleen Glim
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is just stupid. Gates are a thing

    Cassi Lyris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Texas again, everybody!

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    #27

    Must Add Parking

    Must Add Parking

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    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This would be impossible to get into w/o damaging your car!

    Jrdiver
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So that's why people have the big lifted trucks that never see off-road use.....

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    ƒιѕн
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This was all fixed, and that photo is distorted. drive-64ad...17394f.jpg drive-64ad66217394f.jpg

    Verena
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most developers had created a two-floor solution. Garage in the basement/1st floor with a living room on top...

    Gabby Ghoul
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That can't be real. The slope is not navigable for most vehicles.

    Midnightoil
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why? Just WHY? USELESS DRIVEWAY. Bet those garages are turned into bedrooms without permit.

    Stannous Flouride
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Contractors/developers: "The trees that used to hold that soil in place were just an impediment to progress. I'm sure it will be fine."

    Jacki moore
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh my I hope it doesn't snow or get icy there lol

    Cassi Lyris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would pay money to watch them try to pull in and out a few times. Not a lot of money, but some money indeed.

    Tuesday's child
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On the bright side, this looks fun for scooter riding???ok mby not

    Zephyr343
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So your new car is a funicular?

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    Whether you’ve lived your entire life in the suburbs or you refuse to step foot in them, we hope you’re enjoying this list, pandas. Keep upvoting the pics that you think scream “suburban hell,” and feel free to share your thoughts on suburbia in the comments below. Then, if you’re interested in checking out a Bored Panda article discussing a similar topic, Urban Hell, look no further than right here!

    #28

    Spatial Priorities (Source: @fanmaps)

    Spatial Priorities (Source: @fanmaps)

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    Jon Mock
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Population 0? Nah bro, this is the US, there's almost certainly somebody camped out under one of those overpasses.

    Jessica Bertram
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i don't want to upvote our dystopian "American Dream" but you nailed it, Jon. 😕

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    similarly
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The difference is, Texas is enormous, and a lot of that land is no good for farming, so there's a tendency not to care too much about "sprawl". As well, Houston is the 4th largest US city by population, and the 9th largest by area at over 1,700 sq km ... meaning it's HUGE. You need those big interchanges just to get around. It's a major transportation hub. To give you some perspective, The King Ranch in Texas is 825,000 acres. That's over 3,000 sq km. That one ranch is almost 30% bigger than Luxembourg. Texas is over 695,000 sq km, which makes it bigger than France and more than twice the size of Italy. So I don't think you can really compare.

    naylene hess
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also like 2/4 parts of texas are a fking desert lmao it doesnt look at all like this up north except for like dallas and we all know how s**t that is and the east part of texas is literally forest im tired of the misleading bs from people who know jack s**t lol

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    Cassi Lyris
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And making its fourth appearance in this list: TEXAS! Everything really is bigger there...

    Frank Miller
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And so how does this Italian city differ from all of the pictures of the American suburbs that you've been poking fun at?

    xczechr
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Different plots of lands in different countries have different purposes? You don't say...

    michael scott
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In fact there are 6 individuals tented up under there

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    During rush hour, the population of that interchange may be quite high.

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How old are both these cities ?

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    #29

    Congrats! Your Neighborhood Is A Highway Exit! (Austin, Tx)

    Congrats! Your Neighborhood Is A Highway Exit! (Austin, Tx)

    odohertycd Report

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You’re right ! Highways should go from A to B, with no other entrances or exists !

    KatZen
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is actually a very pretty area. Can’t tell by the pic but it’s very hilly.

    Lauren S
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It may be an unpopular opinion but I like this. So much green around to have fun in. But you still have a community of people you live with. I can picture my kid going two doors down to play with a friend. And the exit on the highway does make this more convenient to get everywhere you need to go. I grew up very rural so driving 30 minutes for anything was completely normal. We had one grocery store, one pizza place, one bowling alley, maybe 4 mom and pop restaurants, one school (split into elementary, middle, and high), and 3 traffic lights on the edge of the town (where a main road goes past our town). But we had a fort!

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    Leo Domitrix
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That reminds me of a microbe. Now I have to remember which pathogen it is... Darn it. That'll bug me all day.

    Sneaky Snake
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ewwwwww. Looks like a millepede.

    Cassi Lyris
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, and it came with its own Walmart too. Goody. Texas strikes again...

    Zenozenobee
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    French here, just curious, what is the reason for the "houses only suburbs"? I live in a suburb with both houses and apartments. We have kindergarden, school, bakery, insurer, bank, a pharmacy, a fruits and vegetables vendor, a butcher, 2 hairdressers and a store where you can but anything you need (pretty expensive). All within 5 to 15 minutes of walk. It's convenient.

    pete
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These places absolutely exist in the US. It always has to be kept in mind that the US is dozens of times bigger than any European country outside of Russia. The population is over 300 million. So we have a wide variety of situations spread over a huge area. I tend to see suburbs like what you're talking about near smaller cities and things like college towns. For a city with a population higher than some entire countries in Europe, they don't always make as much sense because the roadway arteries are already in place, and vehicles are the default, busses already run to nearby schools, and business districts are withing 10-15 minutes. Not all suburbs have all that in easy distance, and that's a planning failure, sure, or it's a longer term plan that assumes more business and school stuff will follow in the future.

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    Frank Miller
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No different than being a rail station.

    Gmaddles
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So, yes, it will certainly be a loud neighbor.

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    #30

    Paris, France (Pop. ~2.2 Million) City Limits Overlaid At The Same Scale As Houston, USA City Limits (Pop. ~2.3 Million)

    Paris, France (Pop. ~2.2 Million) City Limits Overlaid At The Same Scale As Houston, USA City Limits (Pop. ~2.3 Million)

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    Verena
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Living in a flat can be beautiful (have done so half of my life with stuning views of the landscape) when built and maintained well, or horrible (e.g. banlieus in France and Plattenbau in Eastern Germany), when designed as cheap boxes to store people.

    Megan Humphries
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly. I get some of the points this post is trying to make, but it seems to be glorifying apartments when most of them are c**p for which you spend a lot of money and have to deal with crazy neighbors.

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    Brenda
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    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't forget, Paris is several hundred years older than Houston (where I live) and wasn't planned to be this big. We have incorporated many of these areas so that they can receive city services. (A lot of these areas are the names of "sections" of town.) And surrounding areas are part of the Houston Metropolitan Area, but not actually part of Houston itself. Things are different here. When Houston was founded, no one expected this kind of growth, ever! We weren't planned to be a major city and so planned for what they believed was our expected growth, not what actually happened.

    Black Rabbit
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Keep in mind that Texas is far larger than France and therefore population density is far more likely to be higher in France than Texas.

    H.J. carlson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's living in a clump that makes people crazy and destructive. We need space & respect for the natural world to be healthy.

    Sharon Coleman
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've lived in flats and never again neighbour noise is just too much for me but kudos to those that can live in them

    Leo Domitrix
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To be fair, this may be why Americans are more friendly in general than most Europeans. We're nto so sick of people?

    Altea
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True, but in Paris one can walk. Well... in most areas at least

    Azolane
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But you can't compare how the two cities were created, it's absurd. Plus Paris population is roughly two millions, close to 12 millions if you account for all the suburbs.

    naylene hess
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh no Houston has houses call the police yall its almost like texas is fking massive and has more space than you can shake a stick at

    Kyllein MacKellerann
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Add in that Paris is one of the most beautiful cities on the planet. Huston... isn't.

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    #31

    Every City Council Discussion

    Every City Council Discussion

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    SegFault
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is every neighborhood with primarily single-family houses, especially where most people have been living there for a decade or more. They want their property values to keep going up without their property taxes going up.

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    The Original Bruno
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    THIS IS LEGITIMATE!!!! Finally... it took 40 posts to find something here that wasn't pure, unadulterated b******t, but I found it! THIS is why people leave California and New York and New Jersey and Massachusetts and move to Texas and Florida and Arizona: Cities try to keep tax values up by refusing to build housing for the middle and working classes!

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Good to know. What exactly are Texas, Florida, and Arizona doing to provide affordable housing for middle and working classes? Would it work in theother states you mentioned?

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    #32

    Public School In Ontario, Canada That Can't Legally Be Walked Or Biked To. (Those Signs Are "No Pedestrian" Signs)

    Public School In Ontario, Canada That Can't Legally Be Walked Or Biked To. (Those Signs Are "No Pedestrian" Signs)

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    Linus Bourque
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a rural school. And specifically on Route 115, which maxes speeds to 90km/h. I don't know if I'd want to walk or bike on a route like that or have kids do that.

    Andy Frobig
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Of course that's unsafe...if only someone could invent something, maybe a kind of pavement, on the side of the road, where people could walk...you could call it a walkside? Or something along those lines

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    LK
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would most definitely want to have separate areas for pedestrians and bicycles, with a barrier between them and the road.

    eame
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Those are no parking signs. The fence is there to stop kids walking in the road.

    Chris D'Asta
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A crosswalk and traffic signal at each entry point might help. C'mon, Canada, I really think highly of you, don't fail me like my country to your southern border.

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I always wanted my grade school to have an "Adults Only" sign.

    H.J. carlson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Shot themselves in the foot. No encouragement for the kids to go there. Wake up, Ontario!

    #33

    Tried To Relax On The Back Porch A While Ago. All I Could Hear Was The Sound Of Lawnmowers

    Tried To Relax On The Back Porch A While Ago. All I Could Hear Was The Sound Of Lawnmowers

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    Tracy Wallick
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Honestly, I'd rather wake up early to a lawnmower, than be kept up late by the sound of my neighbors f*cking :/

    Clown fish
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hear birds and I live in a city. I also hear shouting crack heads, cars, and the trains going past

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    LooseSeal's $10 Banana
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All I'm gonna say is that I can hear birds right now outside the window of my neighborhood house. Granted, I don't live in the suburbs of a major metropolis.

    eame
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do... I'm not in the burbs but in a capital city in Canada in a detached house. Can hear birds. No mowers. Most of my neighbours use a reel mower (AKA "push mower") with no engine. Best of both worlds. Just very expensive!

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    C .Hunger
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is about as accurate as saying waking up in the middle of the night in the city to 15 gunshots....

    Timbob
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tried to go for a walk in the city, but almost got hit by 2 cars and 1 truck !

    Pix
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Argh. Every Sunday, from 7am. There's a group of *insert expletive here* in our neighborhood who decides that this is the perfect time to mow their flaming gardens. A plague on all their households!

    M O'Connell
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I bought an electric mower and have never looked back! It's not even as loud as a vacuum cleaner.

    Megan Humphries
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Didn't necessarily hear birds from my apartment either all the time.

    ADJ
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I actually live in a flat in a apartment block, and every day i hear the birds singing in the morning. It doesn't bother me in the slighest, and it does not interrupt my sleep.

    Vasana Phong
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Best is 7am on a Saturday, when your MO is to sleep late

    Mike Clark
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or, I'm living in the city, where I can easily step over the homeless, the human trafficking kiddies and the discarded drug implementia on the sidewalk and listen to the gunfire of the disenfranchised youth who need more social programs to stop carjacking. Lawnmower bad.

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    #34

    “This City Should Not Exist. It Is A Monument To Man’s Arrogance.”

    “This City Should Not Exist. It Is A Monument To Man’s Arrogance.”

    unroja Report

    Marie Dahme
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lived in Phoenix for 27 years. In that time, the city exploded in population. They better think twice with all the building they’re doing….the Colorado river will dry up soon. Especially wh. On Tuesday July 11th….it’s gonna be 111F. Last week it was 118F. But I remember when it hit 123F back in 2017. Hard pass for me. Love water too much to live there. Lol

    Helen Davies
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The city planners were signaling to the aliens with these mandala shapes. It says, 'screw this place, come get me.'

    Jacki moore
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a sign for the aliens lol our version of the Nasca lines

    Petra Schaap
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    im all against building in deserts etc but why is the pattern bad?

    Burnt Bagel
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looks like literal hell to me!

    Jared Robinson
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why did ancient people build the nazca lines when they couldn't even fly? so they wouldn't have been able to see them period and yet they still built them. Not defending it just pointing out humans have always done dumb s**t.

    C .Hunger
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why Phoenix exists boggles my mind- it must be due to the winter temps. No offense to anyone living in Phoenix.

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    #35

    Tulsa, Oklahoma Urban Decay

    Tulsa, Oklahoma Urban Decay

    TropicalKing Report

    Unwanted Imagery
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tulsa has been getting better at urban development, focusing on downtown living and businesses, as well as useable green spaces. Also remember that Tulsa is very hot and humid during the spring and summer, so a lot of greenspaces turn brown, so they don't look that great lol. Don't get me wrong, the suburban sprawl is very real there, but there is a renewed focus on downtown!

    The Original Bruno
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, it looks like the Stalinist propagandist that created this is deliberately deceiving: Far from "urban blight" you can see very large buildings were erected in the core, but he's zoomed in on the parking they've created on one side of the downtown. The city is much more high-density than it used to be, but they've built a lot of parking on the Southeast side, where major interstates come together.

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    Verena
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People are doing it to themselves. The fsrmland isn't anything better, though. A dead plain of all the same crops

    Unwanted Imagery
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tulsa isn't really surrounded by farms per se. OK was over farmed in the 20s (hence the Dust Bowl) and since then have been very aware of the effects of over farming. Most of Tulsa is surrounded by cattle farms, so large swaths of native grasses and plants. Also have to remember that it's part of the south and gets very hot and (mainly in Tulsa) very humid; it's also part of the plains, so very flat with some plant diversity, but mostly talls grasses and shrubs.

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    Andy Frobig
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I visited Tulsa a few years ago. I was pleasantly surprised by the skyline, but you can cross a street and you've left downtown for a district of parking lots

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    #36

    This Is Levittown, The First American-Style Suburb, Built By William Levitt On Long Island, NY. It Was "Whites Only." It Was Built In 1947, And Served As A Direct Model For Future American Suburbs

    This Is Levittown, The First American-Style Suburb, Built By William Levitt On Long Island, NY. It Was "Whites Only." It Was Built In 1947, And Served As A Direct Model For Future American Suburbs

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    Auntriarch
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If this was UK it would now have six times as many houses, all "detached" of course (ie room enough to walk sideways between them)

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No one has lots that big anymore in 'normal" subdivisions. The lots are usually about 1/3 that size now

    Vira
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I disagree. That's normal where I live

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    Verena
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Suburbians really hate trees, shrubs, flower beds ... everything to make it look nice, have some shadow and provide space for birds and insects and maybe a corner to grow some tomatoes, strawberries, blackberries ... huh?

    Vira
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been trying to liven up my new yard, and all I get is complaints from my neighbor. One neighbor is angry I won't remove a massive rare tree, because it slightly overhangs in his yard, but was irate when he thought I might remove the invasive bushes at the property line. Bushes that don't even provide the privacy he seems to think it offers. His dog screams bloody murder every time I am in that side of the yard and she can see me. Anyway.... Yeah, I feel like people don't put plants because of the harassment. Neighbors truly want me to remove all my trees which were the reason I bought the property.

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    David H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It was more than White Only, it was White Protestants only. The Levitt's who were Jewish, couldnt buy in their own development. They knew rich white protestants was where the money was, and knew how to sell to them. The Levitt's came up with a model where everyone had a front and back yard for kids. A 3 bedroom house based around family liviing. The the offering of only 3 models of houses, was to cut down on costs, because they all the materials could be ordered in bulk

    Jacki moore
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I live here but now they have squeezed houses in-between these houses and you can touch your neighbors house by just reaching out your house window. Smh

    The Original Bruno
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Levittown was built as affordable housing for returning U.S. servicemen, after WW2. Trees were planted and today, it looks like: Screenshot...a80e02.jpg Screenshot-2023-07-11-at-125931-PM-64ad8ada80e02.jpg And yes, there's a Home Depot, Walmart, movie theater, bowling alley and public schools

    Mia Black
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a lot of space in the properties. If they had planted trees and sustainable plants it would look great tbh

    Beth H
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I grew up next to the levittown in Pennsylvania. It doesn't look quite this bleak nowadays. Tons of mature trees, etc. But the concept remains the same.

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    camp4221
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Anyone else bothered that these dont line up in a Straight line? Was this done intentionally?

    Jacki moore
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's so you are not looking in your neighbors house so it's off kilter for privacy

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    Jessica Scott
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My OCD is angry that the houses aren't lined up straight

    Timbob
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Other than being whites only, and to new to have trees, doesn’t look bad !

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    #37

    I Have To Wait Two Hours At School After My Last Class Just So I Can Take An Hour And A Half School Bus Ride (Green) To Get Home Every Day Because I Can’t Afford A Car

    I Have To Wait Two Hours At School After My Last Class Just So I Can Take An Hour And A Half School Bus Ride (Green) To Get Home Every Day Because I Can’t Afford A Car

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    Ba-Na-Na
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ummm - not to be “that” person but I had similar situation when I was in school. That’s when I did my studies/assignments etc. Then I’d have the whole evening to myself

    Brenda
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In Houston, most busses are used for transporting people from a 'park and ride' to downtown. Very few areas have actual local bus service and even those tend to be closer to downtown. You literally HAVE to have a car to work here!

    Say What
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fans that is why Texas fails. People should be more important than cars.

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    Brittany Copeland
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I was in school, my school bus ride in the morning was 1hr 20min. In the afternoon, it was 2hr40min. I was not the last one off the bus, nor the 1st on.

    The Original Bruno
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If that were true, you certainly did not live in a place like the neighborhood shown. There certainly ARE rural places in America where there is one school system in the county, and a school bus has to drive miles and miles down various roads to pick up each child.

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    The Original Bruno
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you Europeans will literally believe any b******t about America, won't you? School busses don't have transfers, you don't have to wait an hour and a half after the last class, and that trip can't be more than a few miles, so why would it take more than 15 minutes?

    Petra Schaap
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    according to Bruno, Europe and (North, South) America are the only continents.

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    #38

    Development In Utah

    Development In Utah

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    Yuffa Kinazzo
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The town planners were going to deny the project, but they didn't have the balls.

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    Mister Dave
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Here at the Old Sorrel Ranch, we lean a little to the right."

    Kathryn Baylis
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Literally f*****g over nature.

    Martin
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A portrait of whomever approved this housing scheme ?

    Ben
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I would think every subdivision with a cul-de-sac would like like this.

    Chris D'Asta
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Big, ugly c***s with tiny balls in suburbia? Approved!

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    #39

    R. Crumb's Suburbanhell Prophecy, 1979

    R. Crumb's Suburbanhell Prophecy, 1979

    splortsplibbler Report

    Vermonta
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I collect his work. He drew some sturdy women

    Jessica Bertram
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    out of curiosity, i looked him up. He did, indeed, draw sturdy women. And they all appear to be...cold...🤣

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    Chris D'Asta
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Crumb is a perpetual American treasure.

    VonBlade
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fantastic artist and it behoves you to seek him out. (although his family background is a bit... strange)

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    #40

    When Spongebob Perfectly Mocked Suburban Life

    When Spongebob Perfectly Mocked Suburban Life

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    Andy Frobig
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I wonder if he got HOA complaints about his pineapple...on the other hand, he worked in a fast food joint and had his own house. Talk about giving kids unrealistic expectations

    #41

    What Is It About The Suburbs That Makes People This Way?

    What Is It About The Suburbs That Makes People This Way?

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    Ray McArdle
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just installed a Ring doorbell and was automatically enrolled in a neighborhood alert system. This is my new everyday reality. People who look suspicious for simply being lost.

    Rostit .
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah so you too joined the police surveillance apparatus. Paying to lose your freedom under the guise of security. Ring is a police asset.

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    Leo Domitrix
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True story: Needed to call 911 for my hubby. Suddenly, we discovered all sorts of neighbors we never met the next day who wanted to know how they could "help" (that is, what was going on for gossip). Humanity basically needs a reboot.

    Tamra
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Something similar happened to us when we had a house fire. Random people I'd never met showed up and stood in my driveway to watch my house burn.

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    Maggie
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Neighbour parks in own driveway, call the cops .

    Kevin the Manager
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the defense of the suspicion and cameras, footage from 2 different Ring doorbells in my neighborhood was used to catch and prosecute a pickup truck driver running over(!) two pedestrians. The driver must have been experiencing road rage, because he/she ran them over, turned around, and ran them down again as they attempted to limp away!

    oktopus
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OMG the infamous Garage User of Suburbia strikes again!

    Nikki Sevven
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You "made a report" about what? Someone driving into their own bloody garage? Don't you have a job? Or hobbies? I honestly couldn't bring myself to give a fraction of a fück about meaningless stuff like this. Something is wrong with your head, my dude.

    Donkey boi
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Now to be fair, changes to a habitual routine are sometimes a sign that something is afoot. If you don't see the wife the next day, I suggest an excuse to talk to her. But I wouldn't share concerns via any form of social media.

    Beck
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They probably left out that the neighbors cleaned out their garage that weekend. So now their car fits in it.

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    Alethea Fletcher
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm guessing the neighbour was fed up with being watched every time he arrived home from work. The fact that Mr Nosy notes that the neighbour normally arrives home at 5.30 and parks on the driveway, makes me think that Mr Nosy spies on said neighbour daily.

    Vira
    Community Member
    2 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel like this was written to troll the people who complain about every little thing

    No Clue
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ooh, that's a good point. Makes sense to me.

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    SegFault
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “Hell is other people.”

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    #42

    Fun Fact: There Isn't A Single Store Or Restaurant In This Image

    Fun Fact: There Isn't A Single Store Or Restaurant In This Image

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    ORSOrama
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    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your car breaks this becomes hell

    Richard Michael
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow, the mad dash to the exits in the morning rush hour must be quite fun.

    Johnny ro
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    hence, wars are fought for petrol

    Chris D'Asta
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    PHISH : "You'll never get out of this maze."

    Burnt Bagel
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I truly do not understand why people choose to live like this?

    Tài Trần
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's just a scheme to sell more cars and petrol, I guess.

    ADJ
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a serious question: Why is there no shop or restaurant there?

    René Sauer
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Zoning laws. It is simply forbidden to build or open anything there.

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    And the like
    Community Member
    2 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017