
Turns Out, Dr. Fauci And The 20th Century Epidemiologist Thomas Tuttle Shared Similar Advice For Ending Pandemics
Meet Dr Thomas Dyer Tuttle, Washington’s Health Commissioner during the Spanish Flu That Took Place In 1918. Apparently, people have been finding close similarities between the way he and his colleague from the 21st century, Dr Anthony Fauci, have been fighting pandemics. Let’s take a closer look at it.
In 1918, epidemiologist Dr Thomas Tuttle advised face masks and social distancing to slow the Spanish flu pandemic. Even though this strategy really did work, the doctor faced pushback and was later fired from his job.
These two have shared not only similar advice for ending pandemics, but looks as well!
Image credits: Montana Historical Society
Moreover, both Dr Tuttle and Dr Fauci fought global pandemics late in their health careers, both men attended Ivy League medical schools and both were commissioned officers in the United States Public Health Service.
Most importantly, both of these doctors have shared similar advice for ending pandemics: social distancing, masks and quarantine among them.
In 1915, Dr Tuttle accepted a new position as Washington’s Health Commissioner
Image credits: Washington State Historical Society, Gregg Courtwright Collection
A few years later, in July 1918, the Spanish flu reached the Washington state
In the beginning, 300 cases were reported but after that, the number started to slowly decline. It seemed as if the flu was retreating.
In September, the numbers started rising once again.
On October 5, 1918, Mayor Hanson took the advice from Dr Tuttle and closed the churches and other public places as well as introducing mandatory masks
Image credits: 1918 Influenza Epidemic Site
After that, Dr Tuttle took it into his own hands to start spreading advice for fighting the pandemic by sending letters to various newspapers
Those letters suggested, that this flu could be prevented from becoming epidemic with “the earnest, conscientious and intelligent help of every citizen of the State.” Like Fauci, the doctor advised people to stay away from public gatherings, to stay at home if any kind of symptoms become apparent and to wear masks in public places.
“All public gatherings except those absolutely essential to the maintenance of life and to the prosecution of essential war industries were prohibited,” Tuttle wrote.
His strategy for Washington’s state seemed to be working
Image credits: University of Calgary Press
With this early intervention, the death rate from the flu was slowly declining. The doctor wrote that the death rate from influenza in the state was “as low as any state in the US, if not lower than any other state.”
Image credits: Emergency hospital during influenza epidemic (NCP 1603), National Museum of Health and Medicine
Later, in the fall of 1918, the restrictions were lifted because a lot of citizens stopped following them
Image credits: Washington State Historical Society, Gregg Courtwright Collection
Besides, the US Public Health Service wasn’t recommending quarantine against influenza.
Within a few weeks, infection rates started rising again
Image credits: Harris & Ewing via Library of Congress
Dr Tuttle Began talking about the restrictions once again, this time promoting them more “aggressively”
Image credits: archives
While the numbers wear gradually rising, the doctor became more and more frustrated about the whole situation. But, basically, this time no one was listening to him. The doctor was described as belonging “to that old-fashioned school of citizens who believe laws and regulations were made to be enforced.”
History is repeating itself. When will we learn from our past mistakes? Different virus, same results ... death! Everyone thinks they won't catch it, so they refuse to listen to the doctors. No one is immune to COVID19 ...wear a mask or stay home!!!!
And those who do get sick are suffering. If they survive they may have long lasting or permanent health problems. Imagine laying in a hospital bed, not knowing if you will live, not being allowed to see your loved ones. And wondering who you may have infected. These people who think this is a joke, need to have some sense slapped into them.
If the US has demonstrated anything, it's the notion that "if we don't like the past, we'll just delete it". Can't effectively learn from something that's been scrubbed from the books.
Ever read 1984?
How could u say such a thing? The onslaught on nature has gone for far too long. it is time for humans to die how can you say that they shouldn't. You should thank the aniti maskers cause they are doing their jobs in getting rid of the stupid s
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You’re an idiot. COVID has already been debunked. Do your research. Everyone who has been sick was wearing a mask and only around others wearing mask. What does that tell you. The numbers about death have been falsified as well. The WHO is in big trouble. Also people who get COVID usually my get a slight sniffle and a headache. Again do your research and stop jumping on the band wagon.
Nah, he's just an idiot.
Do your research. People are dying but NOT bcause they are wearing a mask.
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There is a recent survey asking if infected people wore masks... its roughly 50/50 meaning the mask doesnt prevent. Its not airborne and unless you are licking things and sticking your fingers in your mouth like a disgusting child, you will be fine.
It IS airborne. We have definitive proof of that. I know science frightens you, but there it is. . ..///... You do not wear a mask to keep from GETTING SICK, you wear it to PROTECT OTHER PEOPLE from your spit and snot. ...///... I know you're too stupid to understand that.
The way to stop an outbreak is to change HUMAN BEHAVIOR. The end. Not forever. Just for a while. Works. Natch. THis isn't difficult. *sigh*
Unfortunately, the humans you are referring to, cannot change. Their ignorance is engraved very, very deep.
The more fear involved, the less likely someone will budge.
We should have heeded Dr Tuttle's warnings a hundred years ago. We should definitely take Dr Fauci's advice today. Wearing a mask and keeping a minimum safe distance are small inconveniences to pay to save your life, my life, and countless others. To not do so is irresponsible, selfish, and stupid.
lot of american think if the government ask them to wear a mask they'll lose their 'Liberty'. how can people Don't think them as moron?
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asking and making it a law where you can be fined is the actual loss of liberty. Masks are for safety right? Well what if the gov't required everyone to carry a gun. After all, its for their safety right?
Are you comparing guns to masks? Can masks kill you or anybody else? What is the death rate for using a mask? On the other hand, what is the death rate by no using one?
Some pople think that if they don't believe it then it isn't true.Sad and scary.
When I was about 8, I believed that because I didn't believe in ghosts, they couldn't hurt me. I think even back then I realized it didn't make any sense, because believing that meant that I *did* believe in ghosts. I was okay with that, though. It was better than admitting they did exist because then they could hurt me after all. Childhood logic... now being employed by fully grown adults and also the President of the USA.
Wow- just wow.
once i read "dr. turtle" i cannot unsee it 😂
Hey, Bone Daddy... you are a total WANKER! Just like your (so called) President. Now go take a happy pill...
It's not just America - the UK is as bad - lots of people spouting statistics on FB about how you're more likely to die from an accident at home that you are Covid - that may well be a factual statement - doesn't mean that I really don't want to get Covid anymore than I want to fall off a ladder - wearing a mask is about taking precautionary measures to help you and others - as someone in the at risk category for being very ill with Covid, or worse yet dying, if I did contract it, it staggers me that people can be so selfish as to not just get on with it - and to all those who think it's not real - well I wonder what your view will be once you get it - or will you just keeping on denying that Covid is what made you ill. Still if all the stupid got it and died, it might actually make the world a better place.
People who don't wear masks are covidiots, a group of them is called a covfefe.
More interesting information... https://www.nature.com/collections/dpjcqwsqts
Isn't dr Tuttle also a fictitious character in M*A*S*H?
Yes. Coincidence? Interesting question.
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You know, I appreciate all the people here who will think that this actually was a major "problem" with regard to the Spanish Flu. If you will read, probably the best history of this world wide epidemic" you will discover that NO ONE had a clue, not a single absolute clue as to what caused the Spanish flu or what could be done to stop it. The strongest and the youngest died, not the sick, old or weak. It began in a army camp and by the time it finally went away [and they have not a clue as to why it went away] a minimum of 50 MILLION people around the world died. It is John Barry's "The Great Influenza". I cannot tell you how impressive his research is. Yes, people wore masks, but it did not stop them from getting the flu. People quarantined, but still they got it. People got it in isolated villages that had NO contact with the outside world. Read Barry's book, it will give you a great deal to think about.
I will pick it up and read it. It sounds interesting. That being said, I think what you've said is rather simplistic. There was far more than what you've mentioned that went into the diagnosis and treatment. Not just that a bunch of bozos had no idea. Which is how you've made it sound. And even then, the masks were to prevent the spread of the disease, not to keep the wearer safe.
Yes, a lot more went into it. American medicine at the time of WWI was just one step above the "barber pole" physician. The flu was the impetus for the creation of the power house that American medicine became and is. In addition many, many new discoveries, INCLUDING DNA came out of the research into the flu. We are not talking about a "few guys" we are talking about the entire medical community around the world. And the masks did neither. It did not prevent nor keep anyone safe. And of course this "sounds" simplistic, I cannot in a few sentences convey to you what it took Barry several hundred pages to tell me. BTW, the book is more about HOW rather than what. If I were still teaching I would have my students read it. In fact as to what caused the flu they still don't know. They have even tried disinterring bodies in the permafrost in Russia, soldiers who, they think, died of the flu, because there is NO "sample" of the pathogen anywhere. Just as they think that the 1958
YES.
Do some more reading, and you'll see that the 1918-era masks were ridiculously inadequate ---- gauze, mesh, not even fitted. And, for the record, they've disocvered persuasive evidence that the 1918 pandemic flu was a specific HN combination variation, that it mutated over the course of the pandemic, and that it was likely avian in origin. Samples from *SEVERAL* bodies well-preserved (enough) for DNA and sequencing have shown that. Please do not preach Barry's book as the only or best source. Most readable, yes, but IIRC, it came out 15 years ago. We only got into the DNA of the samples in 2004. He's out of date on those points, if that's where you're getting all information. Just a friendly note not to rely on 15-year-old books on something as changeable as genetic research and sequencing. Cheers, peace, out.
Reply meant for lara, sorry, it shows up all over. Stupid BP.
OK, I did some more research and what you are referencing is NOT finding the original pathogen, but reverse engineering. Reverse engineering of a biological sample is messy, totally inaccurate and absurd. It is like taking a "tube of fecal matter" and reverse engineering to obtain the items consumed. Ain't gonna work.
No, they THINK, they have not a clue because there is NO sample of the original pathogen. They have been trying for years to find a sample, to the extent of digging up bodies of soldiers whom they THINK died in Russia during the war. I would LOVE to know where they got the "samples" of the DNA. In addition the flu did NOT originate in China but in the middle of the us at an army camp. I did NOT preach Barry's book as the "best" source. It is the most accessible book out there on the Spanish flu. In addition WHERE, again, did they "find" the bodies that were preserved? I was discussing this with an epidemiologist two weeks ago and he was lamenting the failure to find a viable sample. He teaches at the local med school and runs the lab, so I think he knows what he is talking about. WHERE did they "find" the "preserved" bodies?
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This guy is a fraud. He's in Hillary's pocket.
I suggest you state your sources for this comment. WTF does Hillary Clinton have to do with any of this? Fraud? What do you mean? Are his degrees from the College of the Holy Cross and Cornell University fake? Are his numerous awards including the Medal of Freedom, false? Are all the medical achievements he's made, including his work on a vaccine for HIV not real? Listen, you punk, where's your medical degree? Look into what you have of a soul and be honest. You're just a sheep repeating the agenda of the far right.
Well spoken!
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Except that the masks we are using do absolutely nothing.
Thank god you don’t make any important decisions. Otherwise, we would all be screwed.
Which person, Maria Briggs, or MostlyPonies? Because if it's Maria Briggs, I'll give you an upvote.
History is repeating itself. When will we learn from our past mistakes? Different virus, same results ... death! Everyone thinks they won't catch it, so they refuse to listen to the doctors. No one is immune to COVID19 ...wear a mask or stay home!!!!
And those who do get sick are suffering. If they survive they may have long lasting or permanent health problems. Imagine laying in a hospital bed, not knowing if you will live, not being allowed to see your loved ones. And wondering who you may have infected. These people who think this is a joke, need to have some sense slapped into them.
If the US has demonstrated anything, it's the notion that "if we don't like the past, we'll just delete it". Can't effectively learn from something that's been scrubbed from the books.
Ever read 1984?
How could u say such a thing? The onslaught on nature has gone for far too long. it is time for humans to die how can you say that they shouldn't. You should thank the aniti maskers cause they are doing their jobs in getting rid of the stupid s
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
You’re an idiot. COVID has already been debunked. Do your research. Everyone who has been sick was wearing a mask and only around others wearing mask. What does that tell you. The numbers about death have been falsified as well. The WHO is in big trouble. Also people who get COVID usually my get a slight sniffle and a headache. Again do your research and stop jumping on the band wagon.
Nah, he's just an idiot.
Do your research. People are dying but NOT bcause they are wearing a mask.
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
There is a recent survey asking if infected people wore masks... its roughly 50/50 meaning the mask doesnt prevent. Its not airborne and unless you are licking things and sticking your fingers in your mouth like a disgusting child, you will be fine.
It IS airborne. We have definitive proof of that. I know science frightens you, but there it is. . ..///... You do not wear a mask to keep from GETTING SICK, you wear it to PROTECT OTHER PEOPLE from your spit and snot. ...///... I know you're too stupid to understand that.
The way to stop an outbreak is to change HUMAN BEHAVIOR. The end. Not forever. Just for a while. Works. Natch. THis isn't difficult. *sigh*
Unfortunately, the humans you are referring to, cannot change. Their ignorance is engraved very, very deep.
The more fear involved, the less likely someone will budge.
We should have heeded Dr Tuttle's warnings a hundred years ago. We should definitely take Dr Fauci's advice today. Wearing a mask and keeping a minimum safe distance are small inconveniences to pay to save your life, my life, and countless others. To not do so is irresponsible, selfish, and stupid.
lot of american think if the government ask them to wear a mask they'll lose their 'Liberty'. how can people Don't think them as moron?
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
asking and making it a law where you can be fined is the actual loss of liberty. Masks are for safety right? Well what if the gov't required everyone to carry a gun. After all, its for their safety right?
Are you comparing guns to masks? Can masks kill you or anybody else? What is the death rate for using a mask? On the other hand, what is the death rate by no using one?
Some pople think that if they don't believe it then it isn't true.Sad and scary.
When I was about 8, I believed that because I didn't believe in ghosts, they couldn't hurt me. I think even back then I realized it didn't make any sense, because believing that meant that I *did* believe in ghosts. I was okay with that, though. It was better than admitting they did exist because then they could hurt me after all. Childhood logic... now being employed by fully grown adults and also the President of the USA.
Wow- just wow.
once i read "dr. turtle" i cannot unsee it 😂
Hey, Bone Daddy... you are a total WANKER! Just like your (so called) President. Now go take a happy pill...
It's not just America - the UK is as bad - lots of people spouting statistics on FB about how you're more likely to die from an accident at home that you are Covid - that may well be a factual statement - doesn't mean that I really don't want to get Covid anymore than I want to fall off a ladder - wearing a mask is about taking precautionary measures to help you and others - as someone in the at risk category for being very ill with Covid, or worse yet dying, if I did contract it, it staggers me that people can be so selfish as to not just get on with it - and to all those who think it's not real - well I wonder what your view will be once you get it - or will you just keeping on denying that Covid is what made you ill. Still if all the stupid got it and died, it might actually make the world a better place.
People who don't wear masks are covidiots, a group of them is called a covfefe.
More interesting information... https://www.nature.com/collections/dpjcqwsqts
Isn't dr Tuttle also a fictitious character in M*A*S*H?
Yes. Coincidence? Interesting question.
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
You know, I appreciate all the people here who will think that this actually was a major "problem" with regard to the Spanish Flu. If you will read, probably the best history of this world wide epidemic" you will discover that NO ONE had a clue, not a single absolute clue as to what caused the Spanish flu or what could be done to stop it. The strongest and the youngest died, not the sick, old or weak. It began in a army camp and by the time it finally went away [and they have not a clue as to why it went away] a minimum of 50 MILLION people around the world died. It is John Barry's "The Great Influenza". I cannot tell you how impressive his research is. Yes, people wore masks, but it did not stop them from getting the flu. People quarantined, but still they got it. People got it in isolated villages that had NO contact with the outside world. Read Barry's book, it will give you a great deal to think about.
I will pick it up and read it. It sounds interesting. That being said, I think what you've said is rather simplistic. There was far more than what you've mentioned that went into the diagnosis and treatment. Not just that a bunch of bozos had no idea. Which is how you've made it sound. And even then, the masks were to prevent the spread of the disease, not to keep the wearer safe.
Yes, a lot more went into it. American medicine at the time of WWI was just one step above the "barber pole" physician. The flu was the impetus for the creation of the power house that American medicine became and is. In addition many, many new discoveries, INCLUDING DNA came out of the research into the flu. We are not talking about a "few guys" we are talking about the entire medical community around the world. And the masks did neither. It did not prevent nor keep anyone safe. And of course this "sounds" simplistic, I cannot in a few sentences convey to you what it took Barry several hundred pages to tell me. BTW, the book is more about HOW rather than what. If I were still teaching I would have my students read it. In fact as to what caused the flu they still don't know. They have even tried disinterring bodies in the permafrost in Russia, soldiers who, they think, died of the flu, because there is NO "sample" of the pathogen anywhere. Just as they think that the 1958
YES.
Do some more reading, and you'll see that the 1918-era masks were ridiculously inadequate ---- gauze, mesh, not even fitted. And, for the record, they've disocvered persuasive evidence that the 1918 pandemic flu was a specific HN combination variation, that it mutated over the course of the pandemic, and that it was likely avian in origin. Samples from *SEVERAL* bodies well-preserved (enough) for DNA and sequencing have shown that. Please do not preach Barry's book as the only or best source. Most readable, yes, but IIRC, it came out 15 years ago. We only got into the DNA of the samples in 2004. He's out of date on those points, if that's where you're getting all information. Just a friendly note not to rely on 15-year-old books on something as changeable as genetic research and sequencing. Cheers, peace, out.
Reply meant for lara, sorry, it shows up all over. Stupid BP.
OK, I did some more research and what you are referencing is NOT finding the original pathogen, but reverse engineering. Reverse engineering of a biological sample is messy, totally inaccurate and absurd. It is like taking a "tube of fecal matter" and reverse engineering to obtain the items consumed. Ain't gonna work.
No, they THINK, they have not a clue because there is NO sample of the original pathogen. They have been trying for years to find a sample, to the extent of digging up bodies of soldiers whom they THINK died in Russia during the war. I would LOVE to know where they got the "samples" of the DNA. In addition the flu did NOT originate in China but in the middle of the us at an army camp. I did NOT preach Barry's book as the "best" source. It is the most accessible book out there on the Spanish flu. In addition WHERE, again, did they "find" the bodies that were preserved? I was discussing this with an epidemiologist two weeks ago and he was lamenting the failure to find a viable sample. He teaches at the local med school and runs the lab, so I think he knows what he is talking about. WHERE did they "find" the "preserved" bodies?
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This guy is a fraud. He's in Hillary's pocket.
I suggest you state your sources for this comment. WTF does Hillary Clinton have to do with any of this? Fraud? What do you mean? Are his degrees from the College of the Holy Cross and Cornell University fake? Are his numerous awards including the Medal of Freedom, false? Are all the medical achievements he's made, including his work on a vaccine for HIV not real? Listen, you punk, where's your medical degree? Look into what you have of a soul and be honest. You're just a sheep repeating the agenda of the far right.
Well spoken!
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Except that the masks we are using do absolutely nothing.
Thank god you don’t make any important decisions. Otherwise, we would all be screwed.
Which person, Maria Briggs, or MostlyPonies? Because if it's Maria Briggs, I'll give you an upvote.