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School Expects Teacher To Pay $400 For Student Trip, They Maliciously Comply
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School Expects Teacher To Pay $400 For Student Trip, They Maliciously Comply

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Most people have had to deal with a boss, manager, or administrator who has made impossible or downright terrible demands. You can protest, quit, or try to argue, but oftentimes, the best way to get around it is to simply do as you are told and allow them to face the consequences.

A teacher maliciously complied with a school administration that wanted them to pay out of pocket for a field trip. The catch? The school also wanted photos to post on social media. Deciding that they weren’t going to fork over hundreds for a field trip, the teacher came up with a different plan.

An educator being expected to pay out of pocket for their pupils is generally unheard of

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A teacher came up with their own plan for a zoo field trip

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Malicious compliance remains one of the most effective means of allowing a decision maker to see that they are wrong. Unfortunately, it can be hard to show someone that they are wrong when they are further up the chain of command than you. Naturally, the option many people take is to simply go with it.

After all, unless, for example, you own a stake in the company, it’s not your responsibility what happens. So simply do as you are told and let management figure out what they did wrong. This also protects the person who is “maliciously complying” because, technically, they were doing exactly what they were told.

Sociologists actually see malicious compliance as an important form of “uncivil obedience.” After all, doing exactly as one is told is obedience, but it’s also possible to follow the “letter of the law” while totally ignoring its spirit. Interestingly, this story might get around this distinction because of the divergence of who or what actually is the “law.”

Malicious compliance can teach a lesson in the right circumstances

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In most malicious compliance stories, the organization does something without fully understanding the consequences. However, OP is a teacher. A teacher’s job is, to the best of their abilities, to cover the curriculum assigned at the beginning of the year. So if they needed to go to a zoo, that’s exactly what happened.

The school administration wanted pictures, but as OP noted, was not willing to take any additional steps to get them. It’s important to note that “getting pictures for social media” is nowhere near a teacher’s job description, so, if anything, OP’s actions were of a rare “malicious overcompliance.”

The teacher managed the field trip and provided photos, all on their own dime. This was not out of some attempt to “get back at” an annoying person or overbearing administration, but simply a case of doing one’s job. Given the situation they were in, the teacher did an admirable job of limiting any possible hardship that may have come to the kids. After all, this field trip was for their education, so it’s good that they still had a fun time.

Hopefully, this can serve as a quality reminder for the administration that, if they want pictures, just like the zoo trip, there is going to have to be a budget and planning put in place for it to actually happen. Given that there was no harm actually done, OP’s story demonstrates a sort of best-case scenario for malicious compliance, where no one actually suffers, but a lesson is learned.

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sarah_a_tate avatar
Upstaged75
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2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who the eff voted that the teacher should pay??? Do you know how much teachers make? Not enough to fund field trips! The cost should be passed on to the parents if the school won't pay. Otherwise it's a no go.

jenniferclark_3 avatar
JenC
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes we'll pitch in to cover a student whose family can't afford the fee, so they don't miss out, but not the whole class!

nitka711 avatar
Nitka Tsar
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have funds for that, as far as I know. At least, when I was at school, low income families and families with more than 1 child at the same trip, got a reduced price. But…. we get child money too, sooo….

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magpiedancer avatar
Caitlin Davenport
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"An educator being expected to pay out of pocket for their pupils is generally unheard of"? In the depressing pit that is the US's education system, teachers have been buying classroom supplies with their own money for decades. It's disgusting that they are paid so little and still have to do this.

nitka711 avatar
Nitka Tsar
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They probably forgot about the US for a second…. You know, it‘s just one country among many where this is not normal.

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mralt avatar
MR
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The correct move is to tell them no. Don't spend a penny on this. You're an employee. This is their commitment. If their budget doesn't allow for this, then don't.

beckisaurus avatar
Astro
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Idk how this works but I grew up in a rural community and once my teacher brought us to a cool cow & bull farm where they did old school blacksmithing and we got to pet some cows and watch them make some metal stuff. It was pretty cool but it turns out it was actually her neighbour (on an island that is only a 20 min ferry ride away so it was kind of an adventure) but we all thought it seemed kinda weird and low budget at the time and now I’m really hoping she and the neighbour got paid for that

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Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like she should have been sure. The photos cost $650, want me to charge it or cash?

jill_18 avatar
Jill
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You wonder why people don't want to teach? This is why. I'm a retired science teacher. I started teaching in 1998 at a Catholic school. If I wanted something for my classroom, I made it or bought it out of pocket. A few years down the road, I had a school tell me I had money to purchase things for my classroom, I cried, it was such a financial relief. I was a single mom with 2 growing children and money was so tight. Never was I told in all my years that I had to fund a field trip, that is completely unacceptable! Quit! I've run some big true field trips, fossil collecting. I took an entire Junior High and 6th grade fossil collecting. It was $1,000 for just the 3 busses. Parents helped by packing lunches and chaperoning. A school community will pitch in if they know you need them.

jill_18 avatar
Jill
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People wonder why you can't keep teachers?! This is why. We are treated like total c**p! Abused financially and mentally. 80-90 hours a week is a given! In 1998 I started my teaching career at a Catholic School. I made a whopping 19k a yr, half of a public school employee. If I wanted something for my science classroom, I had to buy it out of my pocket.

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Alex Boyd
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only (potential) problem with the teacher's conduct is that the administration should not have been surprised to learn where the students actually went. If the field trip plan for the farm was properly done, and the administrator who requested the photos just didn't look at it--which would not surprise me, given the rest of what the administrator pulled--then I would say the teacher's conduct *was* exemplary. They found a cost-effective way for the class to observe and learn about animals, and 50 euro is still a generous amount to pay out of pocket for a work expense.

questella avatar
Blaze Black
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why isn't there a permission slip sent home with a note on how much you need to send in for your kid to go like it always is? Something is sus

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TennesseeHomesteadUSA
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Taking kids to a zoo is a "single, non-tangible thing" ? I would have ponied up the money -- but ONLY for those children. Seen the looks on kids faces at the zoo ? Heard their joy ?

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Gabriela Mendez
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just can't get past cattle, sheep, goats and chicken being exotic🤣

equine_job avatar
Anony Mouse
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand this at all. There was no budget for the field trip. Therefore the teacher does not do the field trip. They request funds for the next year. They don't "maliciously comply" with some BS thought up for internet attention. The school did not require the field trip.

razinho avatar
Ron Baza
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lessons from this: 1/Unionise, educators. 2/Unionise, everyone. 3/If this happens at your kids’ school, the school’s bosses don’t care about your children’s education, happiness or welfare and you should change their school ASAP.

shaas avatar
TheBlinkingDuck
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter and daughter in law pay for all kinds of things for their students. Pencils, crayons, books and visits to the book fair. The admin doesn't pay for these things so if the teachers don't, the child can't be taught properly

cufyelilmo avatar
pasej41913@bustayes.com
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a completely ridiculous non story and a waste of time. BP sure is scraping the bottom of the barrel for content.

sarah_a_tate avatar
Upstaged75
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Who the eff voted that the teacher should pay??? Do you know how much teachers make? Not enough to fund field trips! The cost should be passed on to the parents if the school won't pay. Otherwise it's a no go.

jenniferclark_3 avatar
JenC
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sometimes we'll pitch in to cover a student whose family can't afford the fee, so they don't miss out, but not the whole class!

nitka711 avatar
Nitka Tsar
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

We have funds for that, as far as I know. At least, when I was at school, low income families and families with more than 1 child at the same trip, got a reduced price. But…. we get child money too, sooo….

Load More Replies...
magpiedancer avatar
Caitlin Davenport
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

"An educator being expected to pay out of pocket for their pupils is generally unheard of"? In the depressing pit that is the US's education system, teachers have been buying classroom supplies with their own money for decades. It's disgusting that they are paid so little and still have to do this.

nitka711 avatar
Nitka Tsar
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

They probably forgot about the US for a second…. You know, it‘s just one country among many where this is not normal.

Load More Replies...
mralt avatar
MR
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The correct move is to tell them no. Don't spend a penny on this. You're an employee. This is their commitment. If their budget doesn't allow for this, then don't.

beckisaurus avatar
Astro
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Idk how this works but I grew up in a rural community and once my teacher brought us to a cool cow & bull farm where they did old school blacksmithing and we got to pet some cows and watch them make some metal stuff. It was pretty cool but it turns out it was actually her neighbour (on an island that is only a 20 min ferry ride away so it was kind of an adventure) but we all thought it seemed kinda weird and low budget at the time and now I’m really hoping she and the neighbour got paid for that

Load More Replies...
foxwithadragontattoo avatar
Fox with a Dragon Tattoo
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I feel like she should have been sure. The photos cost $650, want me to charge it or cash?

jill_18 avatar
Jill
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You wonder why people don't want to teach? This is why. I'm a retired science teacher. I started teaching in 1998 at a Catholic school. If I wanted something for my classroom, I made it or bought it out of pocket. A few years down the road, I had a school tell me I had money to purchase things for my classroom, I cried, it was such a financial relief. I was a single mom with 2 growing children and money was so tight. Never was I told in all my years that I had to fund a field trip, that is completely unacceptable! Quit! I've run some big true field trips, fossil collecting. I took an entire Junior High and 6th grade fossil collecting. It was $1,000 for just the 3 busses. Parents helped by packing lunches and chaperoning. A school community will pitch in if they know you need them.

jill_18 avatar
Jill
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

People wonder why you can't keep teachers?! This is why. We are treated like total c**p! Abused financially and mentally. 80-90 hours a week is a given! In 1998 I started my teaching career at a Catholic School. I made a whopping 19k a yr, half of a public school employee. If I wanted something for my science classroom, I had to buy it out of my pocket.

alex51324 avatar
Alex Boyd
Community Member
2 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The only (potential) problem with the teacher's conduct is that the administration should not have been surprised to learn where the students actually went. If the field trip plan for the farm was properly done, and the administrator who requested the photos just didn't look at it--which would not surprise me, given the rest of what the administrator pulled--then I would say the teacher's conduct *was* exemplary. They found a cost-effective way for the class to observe and learn about animals, and 50 euro is still a generous amount to pay out of pocket for a work expense.

questella avatar
Blaze Black
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why isn't there a permission slip sent home with a note on how much you need to send in for your kid to go like it always is? Something is sus

businessdatasystems avatar
TennesseeHomesteadUSA
Community Member
1 month ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Taking kids to a zoo is a "single, non-tangible thing" ? I would have ponied up the money -- but ONLY for those children. Seen the looks on kids faces at the zoo ? Heard their joy ?

gabrielamendez avatar
Gabriela Mendez
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I just can't get past cattle, sheep, goats and chicken being exotic🤣

equine_job avatar
Anony Mouse
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand this at all. There was no budget for the field trip. Therefore the teacher does not do the field trip. They request funds for the next year. They don't "maliciously comply" with some BS thought up for internet attention. The school did not require the field trip.

razinho avatar
Ron Baza
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Lessons from this: 1/Unionise, educators. 2/Unionise, everyone. 3/If this happens at your kids’ school, the school’s bosses don’t care about your children’s education, happiness or welfare and you should change their school ASAP.

shaas avatar
TheBlinkingDuck
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

My daughter and daughter in law pay for all kinds of things for their students. Pencils, crayons, books and visits to the book fair. The admin doesn't pay for these things so if the teachers don't, the child can't be taught properly

cufyelilmo avatar
pasej41913@bustayes.com
Community Member
2 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What a completely ridiculous non story and a waste of time. BP sure is scraping the bottom of the barrel for content.

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