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Mother And Daughter-In-Law Finally Clash Over Years Of Bad Blood, And Oh Boy
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Mother And Daughter-In-Law Finally Clash Over Years Of Bad Blood, And Oh Boy

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Every family has its own way of balancing personalities, but sometimes people’s differences are just too great for compromise.

One American woman on Reddit claims her Cuban mother-in-law turned hostile because she set clear rules around her children, going from eager involvement to cold distance.

After years of ignored birthdays and skipped dinners, the woman says she finally got a chance to confront her about dishonesty, but things didn’t go as planned, and now the tension between them has reached a boiling point.

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    But these two haven’t even been talking

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    Nobody wins in this situation

    A large YouGov survey finds that 38% of American adults report being estranged from at least one close family member — including parents (16%), siblings (24%), children (10%), or grandparents (9%) — showing that estrangement is quite common in American families.

    However, Geoffrey Greif, co-author of In-Law Relationships: Mothers, Daughters, Fathers, and Sons, interviewed more than 1,500 people for the book and discovered that only about 15% of mothers- and daughters-in-law had a seriously troubled relationship. More than half said they felt good about their bond, while the rest described it as neutral.

    The findings also revealed that:

    • 33% of mothers-in-law strongly agreed they were close with their daughters-in-law, compared with just 18% of DILs.
    • 42% of MILs strongly agreed they admired their daughter-in-law, while only 23% of younger women felt the same way about their husband’s mother.
    • 37% of mothers-in-law strongly agreed they enjoyed spending time together, compared with 22% of younger women.
    • 50% of mothers-in-law strongly agreed they trusted their daughter-in-law, but just 23% of younger women said they trusted their mother-in-law.

    “A lot of it is wishful thinking on the part of the mother-in-law,” says Greif, a professor at the University of Maryland School of Social Work, calling it a helpful approach.

    “You go into this relationship assuming the best and not assuming the worst — that’s a form of wishful thinking… I think that’s a really good and positive thing. Mothers-in-law really want to make this work.”

    If the family wants to normalize the women’s relationship to the point where they can at least tolerate each other, it’s likely that one particular person must focus his efforts—the man who connects the two women: the husband and son.

    “There’s essentially an emotional maturity that most daughters-in-law realize — ‘I’m going to try and make this work for the betterment of my family,’” Greif adds.

    “Our research shows that when the daughter-in-law and mother-in-law are able to talk about things directly, those are signs that the relationship is a better relationship.”

    People who read the woman’s story believe she may have omitted certain important details

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    And many feel that everyone in the family could do a better job of communicating

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    Some, however, say the woman is the one stirring up the drama

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    And a few place the blame on the mother-in-law

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    Rika
    Community Member
    10 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can you even judge if someone is sick or not over the phone ? There have been many times when I turned down invitations saying I was sick. I was still able to happily chat on the phone, but I didn't feel like going out because it's easy to mute the phone for a couple of minutes while I puke, it's not so easy to be subtle in the street or in the middle of a restaurant dinner. OP just sounds like a (racist) b*tch who likes to cause drama and bring her husband into it for her own entertainment.

    Papa
    Community Member
    3 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even if she wasn't sick, there was no reason for OP to call her out on it instead of letting it go. The majority of the replies above are right. OP is at least as bad as her MOH, and maybe worse.

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    FranSinclair
    Community Member
    8 hours ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im jumping to conclusions here but if I were a betting woman id put almost all my money on this being primarily the daughter in law. Just how this whole thing was phrased makes it sound like shes pretentious and trying to control everyone in this situation. I have children and my parents were never interested in being involved and I didnt want them to be bc I didnt want my children with people who really didnt want them there. It sounds like MIL excitedly wanted to help as much as possible (no need to point out shes cuban) and was more shut out than necessary for a new mother's comfortable boundaries, that were obviously personalized. MIL saw she was not welcome, upsetting the wife and in turn (i assume) upsetting her son and his marriage, she did the graceful thing that hurt her most and stepped back...but thats not actually what DIL wants bc then you're not getting enough presents. Let the woman be peacefully present in her son and grandchildren lives (go have some me/mom time is you can't coexist) if you want presents.

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    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    9 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MIL made her intentions clear, you wouldn't leave it alone then started drama. Now really leave it alone.

    G A
    Community Member
    7 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They sound like a pair of rabid Harpies. Those poor men.

    Chris the Bobcat
    Community Member
    7 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For fvcks sake, just agree to hate each other and never be in the same room again. It's better to just do it and let the rest of the family know where the two of you stand.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    9 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She sounds exhausting, like a toddler who has not yet learned that life doesn't revolve around their needs and wants and that relationships are not one way streets. If I were the DIL I'd be happy with the no contact.

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
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    4 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sincerely do not understand why anyone would go chase after people like that. The problem was entirely caused by the OP who should have just stayed out of it and away from in laws who didn't want to see them.

    K Barnes
    Community Member
    6 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm really curious as to what OP's boundaries that apply only to one grandma, not both, were. OP didn't do a great job at making herself sound good and MIL terrible in a story that was one-sided and supposed to do just that. Poor husband, caught between two adults who love drama and won't leave each other alone.

    Mark Alexander
    Community Member
    3 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's ok to treat someone who accepts boundaries better than someone else who doesn't.

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    Lee Gilliland
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    2 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am SO happy I don't know these two, they sound exhausting. And I feel sorry for hubby and FIL. These two love drama.

    Otto Katz
    Community Member
    5 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This post is 4 years old, I'm not going to reddit to check (I'm banned from there for saying Nazïs are bad), but I'd not be surprised if the account is gone.

    Sparky Hughes
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    7 hours ago

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    I think both the OP and DIL s*ck. I skimmed this and said, wait, is MIL Hispanic? I read more carefully and saw she was of Cuban descent. And first generation…oof. My mom’s side is Cuban and a lot Hispanic mothers are notoriously boy moms. My grandmother was not a warm cuddly grandmother to me like she was with my brothers. The stuff my grandmother tolerated from my uncle was insane. She acted very similar to MIL and rubbed off on my mom in the worst ways. Same attitude and same dramatics. You should see how my mom treats my brothers’ partners. Heck, she loves my husband more than me. It’s hard for others who didn’t get raised in that culture to understand. I bet MIL’s mother and MIL were just like her.

    Serial pacifist
    Community Member
    9 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In theatres now: “The ill MIL: Reckoning”

    Rika
    Community Member
    10 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How can you even judge if someone is sick or not over the phone ? There have been many times when I turned down invitations saying I was sick. I was still able to happily chat on the phone, but I didn't feel like going out because it's easy to mute the phone for a couple of minutes while I puke, it's not so easy to be subtle in the street or in the middle of a restaurant dinner. OP just sounds like a (racist) b*tch who likes to cause drama and bring her husband into it for her own entertainment.

    Papa
    Community Member
    3 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Even if she wasn't sick, there was no reason for OP to call her out on it instead of letting it go. The majority of the replies above are right. OP is at least as bad as her MOH, and maybe worse.

    Load More Replies...
    FranSinclair
    Community Member
    8 hours ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Im jumping to conclusions here but if I were a betting woman id put almost all my money on this being primarily the daughter in law. Just how this whole thing was phrased makes it sound like shes pretentious and trying to control everyone in this situation. I have children and my parents were never interested in being involved and I didnt want them to be bc I didnt want my children with people who really didnt want them there. It sounds like MIL excitedly wanted to help as much as possible (no need to point out shes cuban) and was more shut out than necessary for a new mother's comfortable boundaries, that were obviously personalized. MIL saw she was not welcome, upsetting the wife and in turn (i assume) upsetting her son and his marriage, she did the graceful thing that hurt her most and stepped back...but thats not actually what DIL wants bc then you're not getting enough presents. Let the woman be peacefully present in her son and grandchildren lives (go have some me/mom time is you can't coexist) if you want presents.

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    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    9 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MIL made her intentions clear, you wouldn't leave it alone then started drama. Now really leave it alone.

    G A
    Community Member
    7 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They sound like a pair of rabid Harpies. Those poor men.

    Chris the Bobcat
    Community Member
    7 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For fvcks sake, just agree to hate each other and never be in the same room again. It's better to just do it and let the rest of the family know where the two of you stand.

    Trillian
    Community Member
    9 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She sounds exhausting, like a toddler who has not yet learned that life doesn't revolve around their needs and wants and that relationships are not one way streets. If I were the DIL I'd be happy with the no contact.

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    Premium
    4 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I sincerely do not understand why anyone would go chase after people like that. The problem was entirely caused by the OP who should have just stayed out of it and away from in laws who didn't want to see them.

    K Barnes
    Community Member
    6 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm really curious as to what OP's boundaries that apply only to one grandma, not both, were. OP didn't do a great job at making herself sound good and MIL terrible in a story that was one-sided and supposed to do just that. Poor husband, caught between two adults who love drama and won't leave each other alone.

    Mark Alexander
    Community Member
    3 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's ok to treat someone who accepts boundaries better than someone else who doesn't.

    Load More Replies...
    Lee Gilliland
    Community Member
    Premium
    2 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am SO happy I don't know these two, they sound exhausting. And I feel sorry for hubby and FIL. These two love drama.

    Otto Katz
    Community Member
    5 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This post is 4 years old, I'm not going to reddit to check (I'm banned from there for saying Nazïs are bad), but I'd not be surprised if the account is gone.

    Sparky Hughes
    Community Member
    Premium
    7 hours ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    I think both the OP and DIL s*ck. I skimmed this and said, wait, is MIL Hispanic? I read more carefully and saw she was of Cuban descent. And first generation…oof. My mom’s side is Cuban and a lot Hispanic mothers are notoriously boy moms. My grandmother was not a warm cuddly grandmother to me like she was with my brothers. The stuff my grandmother tolerated from my uncle was insane. She acted very similar to MIL and rubbed off on my mom in the worst ways. Same attitude and same dramatics. You should see how my mom treats my brothers’ partners. Heck, she loves my husband more than me. It’s hard for others who didn’t get raised in that culture to understand. I bet MIL’s mother and MIL were just like her.

    Serial pacifist
    Community Member
    9 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In theatres now: “The ill MIL: Reckoning”

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