What are the main problems of almost any tenant in a big city, if we discard, of course, numerous stories about evil and insidious landlords? It all comes down to two main categories: parking spaces and neighbors. More precisely – the lack of parking spaces and the presence of neighbors.
If the Inquisition existed and ‘worked’ today, then the most terrible torture would probably be the need to find a parking space in a densely populated area after a working day. Well, the neighbors… they are just people who were created from above with only one purpose – to spoil your life as much as possible. However, you should never forget that for someone, after all, you may be the same evil neighbor too.
In a story that has been present on the AITA Reddit community for quite some time now, both neighborhood and parking problems are at stake. Moreover, judging by the fact that the building manager started the whole situation, there was a third problem – landlords as well. Not surprisingly, the original post now has over 13.4K upvotes and nearly 2K miscellaneous comments.
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The author of the post lives in an apartment building and has their own designated parking spot
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So, the author of the original post lives in an apartment building that comes with one spot in a parking garage. The cost of a parking space is included in the rent, and it’s quite expensive, but the original poster doesn’t complain. Firstly, in their own words, it is almost impossible to find free space in the vicinity of the house, and secondly, their spot is located right next to the elevator, which, of course, is very convenient.
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One day the building manager called the author and asked them to give up their spot to a new tenant – a disabled lady, but they refused
And then, one fine day, about two weeks before the events described, the building manager called the author and asked if they would resent giving up their parking space to a new tenant – a disabled woman. Of course, the OP said that they would agree to swap places, but the manager clarified that he was probably misunderstood as he was talking about giving up the parking space completely, for good.
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The thing is, the manager continued, this lady has a van with a powered ramp, so the new tenant would in fact need two parking spots to use it properly. But the author of the post flatly refused – after all, the cost of a parking space, as we already know, was part of their lease. This ended the conversation with the manager.
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Several days later the author found a big van with disabled plates parked next to their spot
A few days later, the author of the post, returning home from work, found a large van with disabled plates parked next to their entitled spot. The OP tried to park their car as far away from the van as possible, however, at around 7:30am, they got a call from a woman claiming to be the owner of the van. The new neighbor asked the OP to come down and move their car so she could get into her vehicle.
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The original poster admits that they are more of a night owl, so 7:30am was too early for them. But what could they do – they went down to the parking lot and helped the neighbor. But that was only the beginning… For the next three days, the author had to get up earlier and earlier, until finally the call came in at 5:30am on Saturday. The OP went downstairs but told the neighbor that she couldn’t be serious, and that they usually don’t wake up until half past eight at all.
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The woman had been calling the author for several days extremely early asking them to come down and let her drive out from her space
The woman said she just had some plans and asked the neighbor “not to be a jerk”. They were indignant and said that they were actually doing her a favor by going down to the parking lot every given morning. The author believed that this was the end of the incident, but it turned out that they were greatly mistaken.
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Returning home at around 5:30 pm, the original poster found the van partially parked in their parking space, so they couldn’t park. The OP called the neighbor, and she answered in a sarcastic voice “isn’t it annoying to have to wait on someone?” The author reasonably objected that there is a certain difference – for example, they can now simply call the towing company and will be in their right. The neighbor replied that they would not dare to do this and hung up.
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One day the author found their spot occupied yet the neighbor simply hung up so they called the towing company for her van
The original poster waited five minutes to clear their conscience, and when no one showed up, called the towing company. Half an hour later, theу arrived and moved the van from the OP’s space. Is it worth specifying that neither during this half an hour, nor throughout the towing guys’ work, did the neighbor ever appear?
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The woman called only the next morning and immediately started yelling at the original poster. They just hung up at once. One more call – screams again and they hung up once more. Half an hour later, there was a knock on the door of their apartment – it was the neighbor along with the building manager. To accusations that they did not have any right to move her van, the OP reasonably objected that otherwise they could not get to the spot they are entitled to.
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The building manager offered the author a reduced lease in exchange for giving up their parking spot, but they refused flatly
The manager offered to find some kind of compromise, but the author was no longer ready to compromise. According to the terms of their lease, the original poster has their own parking space and regularly paid for it. In the OP’s own words, this is about 30% more for the apartment than a similar one in the same area because the author wants the parking space. When the manager offered to lower the rent in order to give away the parking space, the OP also refused.
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During the quarrel, it turned out that the manager swore to the woman before checking in that he would give her an additional parking spot – and now he was desperately trying to maneuver between the interests of the two tenants. However, it was not possible to reach a compromise with the OP, and when they left, the woman called them a jerk. In the following days, the woman began to park the van on the other side, so that the plates were directed at another tenant’s car. The author of the post did not know how events will unfold with another neighbor, but this, as they say, is a completely different story.
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Some people in the comments believe that the author was absolutely right, but some of them think that all three sides acted poorly
We must admit that as for the heroes of this tale, the opinions of people in the comments were strongly divided. Some people think that the original poster is not to blame, because they pay their rent properly and should not lose their entitled parking space just because the manager took a chance. Moreover, the manager also had no right to give the phone number of one of the tenants to another without their permission.
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Someone, on the contrary, believes that literally all three sides of the current conflict are to blame. The neighbor – because she purposefully blocked the parking space, the manager has done a bad job of accommodating them both, but the author of the post could as well have done something other than towing the van, like they could try to somehow reach a compromise. However, as the OP themselves answered in the comments, none of the tenants asked by the manager agreed to lose their parking space – even in exchange for a reduction of their lease.
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Neighbors in general can turn out to be very strange people from whom you can expect literally anything. They can turn a rented house into a complete pigsty, they can lose your cat, or even demand that you start remodeling your house – just for aesthetic reasons. In any case, we are already waiting for your comments about this particular story, so please feel free to leave them below this post.
This is entirely on the apartment manager. He didn't want be "the bad guy," so he foisted the whole thing on his tenants. It should never have become his tenants problem.
The fact that he gave out this woman's private phone number is also extremely questionable.
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Neither the tenant nor the disabled woman are TA, but the landlord is for offering a parking spot he didn't have control over, and telling lies to the disabled woman to make her rent into a property she can't park in without upsetting at least one other tenant who owns a car too.
The disabled woman isn't fully TA, but she is acting as an entitled jerk. Not for using her space (fully entitled to her space), but for her demands to have OP move their car based on *her* requirements, but not extending the same courtesy the other way.
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The fact that there is no disabled parking spot it weird. If this is in the US then it should be a call to the local office that deals with ADA compliance issues. If not, then I have no idea.
Just curious,but I thought ADA only covers businesses. Are residential apartments required to provide disabled spaces?
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Sometimes disabled people can be AH as bad as able-bodied people, although I think the landlord should be blamed more than the disabled woman.
They get so used to fighting for their rights that even minor issues become huge battles. I hope this is the US, the disabled woman has one heck of an Americans with Disabilities Act case against apartment management. Tough case all around, they should not have built the garage without some accommodation for the disabled.
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Shouldn't have rented to the disabled person without the appropriate needs met. She should be able to get out of her lease and move since they can't accommodate her. Her money should be fully refunded.
Disabled ppl don't get a free pass to be a******s. She didn't come down. He told her he'd tow it. He had every right to tow it. F**k everyone who says he was wrong for that. He's not. He's the only one being f****d over here. It's not his problem. It's the apartment complex's problem. Also, if you're disabled... why wouldn't you make sure you could have access with your van before signing a lease? I mean.... the entitlement is ridiculous. Of course disabled folks deserve to be treated the same as everyone else. But that also means that when they're acting like entitled a******s... you call them out.
Right? He shouldn't be giving anybody's number out! I would be livid.
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Why did this woman move to an apartment building that she knew in advance couldn’t handle her vehicle? Yes I know that accommodation can be limited, but where you have a vehicle you can move further out to find a place that can work with what you need. And I say this as someone who had a 2+ hr commute each way to work for 4 years.
The apartment manager did tell her they could accommodate her. This is all his fault.
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Big NTA, the apartment management is TA for agreeing to lease to a disabled person while knowing they can’t truly accommodate her. The disabled lady is also a bit of an entitled jerk to OP to be fair. But OP was never the one in the wrong here!
Well this should have been worked out before she moved in that's in management and I would call his boss over it. The dickish behavior of the disabled person is on them and good on you for bending to their s**t. Being disabled does NOT give anyone more rights then anyone else. This is why so many people do not care for the disabled for some being disabled gives them entitlement issues. This is coming from someone who is disabled .
NTA, but the landlord and the disabled woman are both are TA. The landlord because he clearly promised the disabled woman something he could not guarantee to have her sign the lease. And the disabled woman for taking her frustration out on you and turning into a literal bully to get her will. And no, a disability does not give a person card blanche to bully other people. I am disabled myself and believe me, people in wheelchairs can be a*****es, just like everyone else.
The only way she got your phone number was the manager gave it to her, which it’s illegal because it violates the privacy act. I were you, I would have a serious talk with the manager.. Tell the manager the next time he/she gives your number out that you will go to her boss. The manger can loss his/her job, because you can sue them
Tbh the manager giving out your number is illegal, making you give up your parking spot that you paid for is illegal, and not having handicap accessible parking is also illegal and against the ADA. You and the lady could both have a strong case to sue the building manager for violating a contract and not following building code.
Building codes and the ADA are not retroactive and they will never be retroactive. Most apartment buildings are made before the ADA in fact way before the ADA. Millions and millions of buildings do not meet current building codes. Do you think they should all be torn down and replaced? Most circuit breakers in use violate NEC code and are considered a fire hazard.
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I've worked nights my entire adult life, over 25 years now, and hated living in an apartment. Constantly had people parking in my spot, had my car hit 3 times parked with no notes left behind and maintenance towed my car (and a few others) once for not moving it so they could plow during a storm as if we could predict they were coming while it was still snowing. When rent doubled from $500 to $1k under new management that wanted to renovate I moved out and bought a house in '08. Ownership has its downsides, but nobody is going to tow my car or hit it in my own driveway!
Buying in 08 you probably got it after the real estate market collapsed and got a great deal. We got ours in 09 and it is worth double what we paid for it. It's almost paid off and we pay way less than apartment rent price.
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Yes, the manager is TA. Do not sell product you do not have to sell. Depending on location, maybe there is some legal issue with refusing to rent to a HC person. But simple truth in the world is for various reasons not every building is wheelchair accessible. Sounds like landlord could decide to make some genuine HC parking spaces but will likely require renting a few units for less $$$ since they no longer have a parking space. Still does not mean current tenant should be a victim of their poor planning in this regard.
The manager did not tell this person that they are getting two parking spots. If they had said that, it would have been put on the lease that she gets two parking spots. If the disabled woman had been told that both parking spots are hers, she would have called a tow truck the first time this guy parked in his spot. She knew exactly what she was getting but she thought she could guilt him and bully him into giving up his parking spot that he pays a lot of money for.
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Why is HE the one they are pestering? Have they asked any other tenants to give up their spot? He didn't say it directly but it seems to me like he's the only one getting harassed for his spot... There are obviously other people in the building, ask someone else. He's certainly not an a*s hole for wanting to keep what is rightfully his. I'd consider looking into what can be done about management giving out his phone number without his permission.
Sounds like this entitled handicapped woman not only wants 2 whole spaces to herself, but they HAVE TO BE closest to the elevator. Heaven forbid she needs to roll an extra few inches/feet. This may be why OP was targeted for harassment by both of them.
Load More Replies... I am hoping to move away from needing a wheelchair as my last couple surgeries heal and I regain my mobility. But I've often run into parking issues with the chair. I don't need a vehicle ramp- the side door is low enough I can just tip up the front wheels and then lift it in. But a standard width space makes this difficult to do. Handicap spaces are "usually" space and a half already and some have the access lane as well, which is nice. More than once I have had to pull halfway out of my space to load my chair though. It is what it is. I can't expect them to rebuild a whole parking garage just because my skeleton sucks. Both OP and the new tenant handled this badly, but the only true AH here is the person who assured her she could rent and have an accessable spot. Unless she never asked and just assumed she could demand one. That makes her a potential AH too, depending on if she didn't ask on purpose or not.
Apartment manager is TA, OP is NTA, disabled person is also TA OP has a legal case against the apartment for giving out his contact info without his permission. If policy was to call tow, he acted within his right. He was nice enough to give disabled person 35 minutes to come move her car. He was nice enough to move his car for her in the early morning. Disabled person is AH because they called early in the morning and then were not nice about anything. Yes it wasn't their fault but wrong person they were taking it out on. They also probably have a legal case against the apartment (even if it isn't due to the space but to lying about the access) apartment manager should not have allowed her to stay or given out ops number
The management is required by law to provide for disabled residents in America. It's absolutely not your responsibility on any level. At this point, I'd file charges for harassment and breach of lease contract. Maybe you can live out your last year with a grossly reduced rent, if not free. If they can not accommodate for disabilities, then she should find a new place and they should help for her displacement.
There must be some sort of violation against the Mgr who gave your number to the woman. That can't be legal. I'd look into that for sure. Otherwise was she going to pay double for both spots? The disabled woman is an AH and so is the Mgr. How dare she call you and expect you to move your car.
I'm disabled and the woman is acting entitled. It's not her fault, no, nor his. But she's still just assuming the world will bend over for her. Disability means you might need a little extra help, it doesn't crown you lordship over the dominion. That being said, apartment manager needs to get off his a*s and start solving problems, not dump them on his tenents.
No, nope...NTA. OP's lease includes said parking slot. This is the manager's/ building owner's problemo, not OP's. THEY didn't think this through ( providing adequate space for the disabled lady) & are total c***s for throwing OP under the bus. Codependent c**p carnival IMO. The management created this mess. NTA
I would guess the new tenant didn't mention her need until after the ink dried on her lease. Or the manager didn't realize she needed 2 spaces. Either way. It's not your problem. I have a disability and the first question I ask my Landlord. Are spaces assigned and how many does each apartment get. Special accomodations need to be clarified beforehand. I find most Landlords don't understand what ADA accomodations really mean. No one wants to take responsibility for their choices. The prefer to blame you. NTA
It seems to me that there should be some Requires “handicapped” parking spots for renters with special parking needs. If they don’t have this, then they shouldn’t rent the apartment to someone they could not accommodate. The manager and now the leasing company at the apartment are at fault. This is not an issue that an apartment manager should be proposing with other tenants. The apartment complex simply doesn’t have the ability to accommodate handicapped vehicles. He should have not accepted her application to live there. Most apartment complexes nowadays are required to have designated handicapped parking. Although there are many that have not figured out how to do this. In these cases, it’s really on the potential renter to ask the leasing agent and apartment manager to determine the details prior to signing a lease. No other tenant should be asked to forfeit their tenant agreement and rental space whether living space or parking space and be put in this type of position.
I understand your frustration. The landlord was totally at fault for renting an apartment to a disabled woman who needed a special parking spot. The owners of the building were at fault for not making sure that there was a handicapped parking spot available. (I'm in Canada, and not having handicapped parking available is a real no-no). The tenant? I understand him not wanting to lose his ONLY spot, and after the way the woman spoke to him and treated him, I probably would have done more than had her van towed away.
I had to have it out with my former apartment manger (a woman I really liked) because they had assigned the disabled spot to a tenant. My best friend is disabled and parked in that spot. He clearly had the license plate to prove it. My neighbor (b*tch from hell) tried to have him towed. The tow truck driver let her know that he couldn't tow a car out of the disabled spot when it clearly had DP plates. She was FURIOUS. I had to have a very awkward conversation with the tow truck driver, her & our manager at 11:00pm, letting them both know that assigning a DP spot was basically illegal. My friend was leaving, so it became a moot point. Neighbor immediately got her car from the street and parked there. I slipped the tow truck driver $50 to come tow her car out of that spot "later on".
Unless the neighbor had a handicap plate/sticker, it's illegal for her to use the spot anyway!
Load More Replies... NTA. It's a sad and irritating fact there are self entitled people in the world. Apparently some of them have a disability. Having a disability doesn't give any of them the right to abuse others.
Am I the only one wondering how this stranger had this persons phone number? I find that hard to believe...
Im a wheelchair user and I get frustrated about situations like this. Basically neither the op and the disabled woman are not at fault, although neither approached to the situation was very adult. As for the manager his definitely TA for the simple reason that he promised something he could not provide. I'm sure that the lady could take it to dispute. Sometimes we have to fight with the right person not the closest
The manager should not have rented an inaccessible apartment setup in the first place. This is all on the manager. GREED and stupidity.
If there are any spots next to an aisle or driving lane, she should get that one. But if there isn't, well, she is s**t out of luck and should not have signed the lease. I'm guessing she did not explain her van until after she moved in, and that the apartment manager is thinking he'll get sued for ADA stuff if he doesn't accommodate her. But, he needs to remember the "reasonable" bit, and tell her no, it's not going to work, so they'll let her out of her lease. Costing the apartment building hundreds a month to purchase her the use of an extra spot, one already assigned to another person by legal contract, would in all likelihood be deemed unreasonable, and the building manager would be in the clear to tell her she's on her own or can move out. And while most places have disabled spots, not very many have the extra big spots which are specifically for *vans*. A quick google says that van spots are 8 feet wider than regular spots and 3 feet wider than a standard disabled spot.
OP is TA. Management is required by law to accommodate the disabled tenant, and did so. OP refused to cooperate because "muh parking", as if he can't walk. He's a jerk.
The apartment manager should not have rented to someone who needs a disabled spot without having a spot available. This is not your problem.
If the parking space was the deciding factor the apartment manager should not have rented to her as no handicapped spots were available. It is not your problem.
The manager is an a**hole for promising a disabled woman a parking space that they DID NOT HAVE.
I think there is a bigger issue here of the manager giving out your private information without your permission. I'd be finding a way to report that. You are not required to make accomodations for her. That is on the property.
Sounds like the landlord ITA for not having disabled parking. If this is in the U.S. he's violating the ADA, so of course he told her he would get her a spot. And giving another resident the OPs phone# to harass them makes it even worse. The OP was nice enough to agree to swap a super convenient spot for a less desirable one, but should be under no obligation to give it up entirely. Really mostly the landlord is TA, although I'd say partly the disabled woman as well, for harassing the OP over an issue she needs to take up with the landlord.
landlord is a*****e for giving other tenant your phone number and promising her something he had no control over
Landlord is unreal for promising disabled parking where none exists & then asking someone else to give up their spot so the new tenant can have 2. Also ridiculous for giving OPs phone number to her. She's ridiculous for parking in the inadequate spot & expecting OP to come out & move their car every single time. Then to have the nerve to be nasty to them?! I never answer my phone to unknown numbers, OP should not have ever picked up. Let her call the police & explain how she could possibly park where she did & still expect to be able to get in & out. Honestly, if she was a kinder person, I'd probably think of other solutions, but for her to be nasty & then refuse to move her car for OP after he moved his repeatedly? Nah. She needs to find more suitable accommodations elsewhere. Next! (Also, this is why many vans that have been custom fitted for the disabled have the entry and liFt in the REAR, not the side. She might want to consider trading half of a rear seat to be able to park.)
Nta. Being disabled doesn't give her the right to be rude and pretty much insufferable. The apartment manager shares in the blame. He created this situation and rather than find a solution he attempted to just let it work itself out. How did she even get her phone number? That manager will just need to rent the next apartment without a spot and give it to the rude disabled woman. Whatever your circumstances in life are they don't give you a free pass to be an entitled a*****e or to pass off problems you create onto other people.
That apartment manager is gonna get SUED. He's fighting the ADA. The federal government always wins in cases like these. OP needs to work with the other tenant, not against her. Together, and with other tenants to help, they could really get a legal case going.
The handicapped woman knew before she moved in that there was going to be problems. Just because a person is handicapped, it does not entitle them to do these things. I am disabled. I would not move into a place until I knew there was a space to park.
Unfortunate situation. And the woman doesn’t seem to see that she gives disabled people a bad name when she demands special treatment. I’m all for handicap accessibility. I use it myself. However, asking you to move your car for her to use her ramp is one thing. Calling you when she wants to, and expecting immediate response even before you are awake it’s an entirely different thing. As far as giving up your parking spot, that would be problematic and not something you should have to do. And the landlord is behaving in a possibly illegal and definitely AH manner. Curious? Was he planning on charging her twice for two spots? It sounds as if this apartment is not at all handicap assessable. I wish more places were, because it makes it difficult to find a place. But blaming him for it is not going to help her.
NTA. The apartment manager should apply to the city to get a space in front of the building designated as a specialized space for the tenant that needs it. If this is Canada, they are legally required to have accessible parking for EVERY complex.
Jeez! I just saw this is a year old! Get new stuff BP!!
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I don't believe this is a real story. The apartment manager can't give out your phone number to another tenant. Also Federal Accessibility laws apply to residential, ADA and FHA apartment buildings with parking structures. It's usually 2% requirement. Also I am sure someone else would take a rate reduction to lose a spot.
The only ahole is the apartment complex. The apartment has an elevator, so if it in the US, ADA applies here. As well as the whole manager giving phone numbers out. This is shady stuff. Depending on the state, if the manager doesn't live on the property, they need a real estate brokers license. I would look to see if they have one and report them to Dept of Real Estate. They aren't supposed to give out contact info without consent of tenet.
Why doesn't the manager give you their parking spot, so the disabled lady can have your parking spot near the elevator? The manager caused the problem not you.
In your description you describe your spot as next to the wall and the wall is several feet long. Without seeing a picture. I wonder if she had your spot could she just not pull in all the way to allow the ramp to deploy or eould this block the passage way through the garage? I agree you are not the a hole and the property manager is one. If the management has a privacy policy and he violated it you may have recourse for leaking your contact information to her. It falls to him to resolve the issue he created as it doesnt seem these spots are marked handicapped.
Management should not have rented to someone who needs 2 parking spaces that weren't available. I would agree to give up my spot once I'd found another apartment, a release from the lease, and payment for the best moving company in town with drawer to drawer service.
If there is no room for her van, she needs to find somewhere else to live. That simple
NTA, as much as I understand differently abled people getting a spot, this is really on the apartment manager for putting OP in a compromising situation by telling them to give up their spot that they were already paying for in the first place. Manager is responsible for accommodations, or saying that there isn't a space available. But for the sake of getting rent from new tenant, landlord bends to new tenant and hopes to take space from established tenant. That is not right, in itself, or manager needs to have an available spot for original tenant since OP was willing to switch if there was an open spot.
Contact a lawyer. Giving away your phone number is illegal if it a cell phone. Then file compliant with fcc.
I'm confused on how this parking garage is set up. Don't they all have a middle row of spots that aren't blocked by anything? Why couldn't she just park on one of the outside spots there?
"what else was I supposed to do?" Not act like a total A and then try to use your disability to make it "ok", yet not actually change your A behavior? Maybe, started off on the right foot. "Hey, I got this and that going, my spot is next to yours" until the manager can get somethign worked out, how about I call you when I need to access my van? Here's my proposed schedule..."Oh, 5:30 say morning won't work? Ok, I'll make arangements. for that day." I realize you normally don't rise until 8:30, but is there any chance you can do 7:30 on work days, I start at 8... for a few weeks, in the meantime, I'll have the manager look to find a spot near someone that normally leaves earlier, and maybe you two can switch or something...?" Not, "move your car beatch, I got plans", then pull the ol' 2 spots move, followed by "screw you, not moving"...ok, tow it is. Now, it's on, and OP ain't budging, you lose.
I also have a convenient spot near the elevator. I'd give it up to a disabled person if asked....as long as I get another spot within the parkade. I would NOT park on the street, in an area known for smashed windows, just to help a stranger who the building manager shouldn't have rented to in the first place.
I don't know what country this is in, however here in the states that would fall under the ADA (obligatory INAL). Which means the apartment manager is the one that needs to go on a special diet and s**t that woman a parking space.
#1 No, you are not being a jerk. #2 Your only obligation is to pay taxes then die. #3 Treat her like you would treat anyone else who would dare to park in your paid spot, equal, it's how they're asked to be treated. I would obliged...not a problem. #4 Ask yourself how would you treat an able body jerk that did this? She's not exempt, she doesn't seem to have anything wrong with her mouth. #5.The manager dude is at fault! He's offering this lady accommodations the building doesn't have, ramps, a parking spot, maybe an elevator? Pace? if her van dies..tickets to the Opera? a Spa date...you get my point...and..he's giving out phone numbers too. Better you than me bro... manager dude would have his very own wheelchair once I finished with him. P.S. I work very late nights, I am known to turn into the incredible Hulk if I am awaken like this. Bye Felicia! and Frank.
It seems to me that it's the responsibility of the disabled person to ensure that there actually is parking to suit her needs available before she signed the lease. If there wasn't a disabled spot that accommodated the ramp to her van then that there actually was two spots available to be assigned to her. Otherwise the apartment doesn't fully suit her needs and she needs to keep looking.
NTA -- the solution may be for her to compromise to a smaller/narrower van, since it may not be easy to accomodate in the places she chooses to live. It's unfortunately her own dilemna. Unless you're willing to switch to a motorcycle🤭
So what? What's wong with you? You have slow day too and read old post.
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Is there not a spot by a path in the garage that can swap with, they get the space they need, no one loses a spot?
OP is definitely NTA. The apartment manager is the a**hole here, for renting an apartment to someone who needed disabled parking but knew they didn't have it available, or, the disabled renter is the a**hole here, because they might not have been forthright about their needs, and sprung it on the apartment complex after the lease was signed.
We were totally made to give up our parking space. We have two cars, but when we bought the house we were assured there will be place for both. Same in the contract. We paid for both. In the end , one of the spaces was taken from us and given to a newcomer. Fortunately we were able to find satisfactory solution, but my point is- in Japan such things happen and you can’t do anything.
If this is the US, the poster is going to lose their space when their lease is up. US disability law requires a disability space with access as close to the door as possible. His space will be eliminated and merged into the other space to create it as soon as the owner legally is capable.
You are so incorrect plus she can be towed for taking a designated. You are not entitled to park as you wish because of a disability
Load More Replies... This is entirely on the apartment manager. He didn't want be "the bad guy," so he foisted the whole thing on his tenants. It should never have become his tenants problem.
The fact that he gave out this woman's private phone number is also extremely questionable.
Load More Replies... Neither the tenant nor the disabled woman are TA, but the landlord is for offering a parking spot he didn't have control over, and telling lies to the disabled woman to make her rent into a property she can't park in without upsetting at least one other tenant who owns a car too.
The disabled woman isn't fully TA, but she is acting as an entitled jerk. Not for using her space (fully entitled to her space), but for her demands to have OP move their car based on *her* requirements, but not extending the same courtesy the other way.
Load More Replies... The fact that there is no disabled parking spot it weird. If this is in the US then it should be a call to the local office that deals with ADA compliance issues. If not, then I have no idea.
Just curious,but I thought ADA only covers businesses. Are residential apartments required to provide disabled spaces?
Load More Replies... Sometimes disabled people can be AH as bad as able-bodied people, although I think the landlord should be blamed more than the disabled woman.
They get so used to fighting for their rights that even minor issues become huge battles. I hope this is the US, the disabled woman has one heck of an Americans with Disabilities Act case against apartment management. Tough case all around, they should not have built the garage without some accommodation for the disabled.
Load More Replies... Shouldn't have rented to the disabled person without the appropriate needs met. She should be able to get out of her lease and move since they can't accommodate her. Her money should be fully refunded.
Disabled ppl don't get a free pass to be a******s. She didn't come down. He told her he'd tow it. He had every right to tow it. F**k everyone who says he was wrong for that. He's not. He's the only one being f****d over here. It's not his problem. It's the apartment complex's problem. Also, if you're disabled... why wouldn't you make sure you could have access with your van before signing a lease? I mean.... the entitlement is ridiculous. Of course disabled folks deserve to be treated the same as everyone else. But that also means that when they're acting like entitled a******s... you call them out.
Right? He shouldn't be giving anybody's number out! I would be livid.
Load More Replies... Why did this woman move to an apartment building that she knew in advance couldn’t handle her vehicle? Yes I know that accommodation can be limited, but where you have a vehicle you can move further out to find a place that can work with what you need. And I say this as someone who had a 2+ hr commute each way to work for 4 years.
The apartment manager did tell her they could accommodate her. This is all his fault.
Load More Replies... Big NTA, the apartment management is TA for agreeing to lease to a disabled person while knowing they can’t truly accommodate her. The disabled lady is also a bit of an entitled jerk to OP to be fair. But OP was never the one in the wrong here!
Well this should have been worked out before she moved in that's in management and I would call his boss over it. The dickish behavior of the disabled person is on them and good on you for bending to their s**t. Being disabled does NOT give anyone more rights then anyone else. This is why so many people do not care for the disabled for some being disabled gives them entitlement issues. This is coming from someone who is disabled .
NTA, but the landlord and the disabled woman are both are TA. The landlord because he clearly promised the disabled woman something he could not guarantee to have her sign the lease. And the disabled woman for taking her frustration out on you and turning into a literal bully to get her will. And no, a disability does not give a person card blanche to bully other people. I am disabled myself and believe me, people in wheelchairs can be a*****es, just like everyone else.
The only way she got your phone number was the manager gave it to her, which it’s illegal because it violates the privacy act. I were you, I would have a serious talk with the manager.. Tell the manager the next time he/she gives your number out that you will go to her boss. The manger can loss his/her job, because you can sue them
Tbh the manager giving out your number is illegal, making you give up your parking spot that you paid for is illegal, and not having handicap accessible parking is also illegal and against the ADA. You and the lady could both have a strong case to sue the building manager for violating a contract and not following building code.
Building codes and the ADA are not retroactive and they will never be retroactive. Most apartment buildings are made before the ADA in fact way before the ADA. Millions and millions of buildings do not meet current building codes. Do you think they should all be torn down and replaced? Most circuit breakers in use violate NEC code and are considered a fire hazard.
Load More Replies... I've worked nights my entire adult life, over 25 years now, and hated living in an apartment. Constantly had people parking in my spot, had my car hit 3 times parked with no notes left behind and maintenance towed my car (and a few others) once for not moving it so they could plow during a storm as if we could predict they were coming while it was still snowing. When rent doubled from $500 to $1k under new management that wanted to renovate I moved out and bought a house in '08. Ownership has its downsides, but nobody is going to tow my car or hit it in my own driveway!
Buying in 08 you probably got it after the real estate market collapsed and got a great deal. We got ours in 09 and it is worth double what we paid for it. It's almost paid off and we pay way less than apartment rent price.
Load More Replies... Yes, the manager is TA. Do not sell product you do not have to sell. Depending on location, maybe there is some legal issue with refusing to rent to a HC person. But simple truth in the world is for various reasons not every building is wheelchair accessible. Sounds like landlord could decide to make some genuine HC parking spaces but will likely require renting a few units for less $$$ since they no longer have a parking space. Still does not mean current tenant should be a victim of their poor planning in this regard.
The manager did not tell this person that they are getting two parking spots. If they had said that, it would have been put on the lease that she gets two parking spots. If the disabled woman had been told that both parking spots are hers, she would have called a tow truck the first time this guy parked in his spot. She knew exactly what she was getting but she thought she could guilt him and bully him into giving up his parking spot that he pays a lot of money for.
Load More Replies... Why is HE the one they are pestering? Have they asked any other tenants to give up their spot? He didn't say it directly but it seems to me like he's the only one getting harassed for his spot... There are obviously other people in the building, ask someone else. He's certainly not an a*s hole for wanting to keep what is rightfully his. I'd consider looking into what can be done about management giving out his phone number without his permission.
Sounds like this entitled handicapped woman not only wants 2 whole spaces to herself, but they HAVE TO BE closest to the elevator. Heaven forbid she needs to roll an extra few inches/feet. This may be why OP was targeted for harassment by both of them.
Load More Replies... I am hoping to move away from needing a wheelchair as my last couple surgeries heal and I regain my mobility. But I've often run into parking issues with the chair. I don't need a vehicle ramp- the side door is low enough I can just tip up the front wheels and then lift it in. But a standard width space makes this difficult to do. Handicap spaces are "usually" space and a half already and some have the access lane as well, which is nice. More than once I have had to pull halfway out of my space to load my chair though. It is what it is. I can't expect them to rebuild a whole parking garage just because my skeleton sucks. Both OP and the new tenant handled this badly, but the only true AH here is the person who assured her she could rent and have an accessable spot. Unless she never asked and just assumed she could demand one. That makes her a potential AH too, depending on if she didn't ask on purpose or not.
Apartment manager is TA, OP is NTA, disabled person is also TA OP has a legal case against the apartment for giving out his contact info without his permission. If policy was to call tow, he acted within his right. He was nice enough to give disabled person 35 minutes to come move her car. He was nice enough to move his car for her in the early morning. Disabled person is AH because they called early in the morning and then were not nice about anything. Yes it wasn't their fault but wrong person they were taking it out on. They also probably have a legal case against the apartment (even if it isn't due to the space but to lying about the access) apartment manager should not have allowed her to stay or given out ops number
The management is required by law to provide for disabled residents in America. It's absolutely not your responsibility on any level. At this point, I'd file charges for harassment and breach of lease contract. Maybe you can live out your last year with a grossly reduced rent, if not free. If they can not accommodate for disabilities, then she should find a new place and they should help for her displacement.
There must be some sort of violation against the Mgr who gave your number to the woman. That can't be legal. I'd look into that for sure. Otherwise was she going to pay double for both spots? The disabled woman is an AH and so is the Mgr. How dare she call you and expect you to move your car.
I'm disabled and the woman is acting entitled. It's not her fault, no, nor his. But she's still just assuming the world will bend over for her. Disability means you might need a little extra help, it doesn't crown you lordship over the dominion. That being said, apartment manager needs to get off his a*s and start solving problems, not dump them on his tenents.
No, nope...NTA. OP's lease includes said parking slot. This is the manager's/ building owner's problemo, not OP's. THEY didn't think this through ( providing adequate space for the disabled lady) & are total c***s for throwing OP under the bus. Codependent c**p carnival IMO. The management created this mess. NTA
I would guess the new tenant didn't mention her need until after the ink dried on her lease. Or the manager didn't realize she needed 2 spaces. Either way. It's not your problem. I have a disability and the first question I ask my Landlord. Are spaces assigned and how many does each apartment get. Special accomodations need to be clarified beforehand. I find most Landlords don't understand what ADA accomodations really mean. No one wants to take responsibility for their choices. The prefer to blame you. NTA
It seems to me that there should be some Requires “handicapped” parking spots for renters with special parking needs. If they don’t have this, then they shouldn’t rent the apartment to someone they could not accommodate. The manager and now the leasing company at the apartment are at fault. This is not an issue that an apartment manager should be proposing with other tenants. The apartment complex simply doesn’t have the ability to accommodate handicapped vehicles. He should have not accepted her application to live there. Most apartment complexes nowadays are required to have designated handicapped parking. Although there are many that have not figured out how to do this. In these cases, it’s really on the potential renter to ask the leasing agent and apartment manager to determine the details prior to signing a lease. No other tenant should be asked to forfeit their tenant agreement and rental space whether living space or parking space and be put in this type of position.
I understand your frustration. The landlord was totally at fault for renting an apartment to a disabled woman who needed a special parking spot. The owners of the building were at fault for not making sure that there was a handicapped parking spot available. (I'm in Canada, and not having handicapped parking available is a real no-no). The tenant? I understand him not wanting to lose his ONLY spot, and after the way the woman spoke to him and treated him, I probably would have done more than had her van towed away.
I had to have it out with my former apartment manger (a woman I really liked) because they had assigned the disabled spot to a tenant. My best friend is disabled and parked in that spot. He clearly had the license plate to prove it. My neighbor (b*tch from hell) tried to have him towed. The tow truck driver let her know that he couldn't tow a car out of the disabled spot when it clearly had DP plates. She was FURIOUS. I had to have a very awkward conversation with the tow truck driver, her & our manager at 11:00pm, letting them both know that assigning a DP spot was basically illegal. My friend was leaving, so it became a moot point. Neighbor immediately got her car from the street and parked there. I slipped the tow truck driver $50 to come tow her car out of that spot "later on".
Unless the neighbor had a handicap plate/sticker, it's illegal for her to use the spot anyway!
Load More Replies... NTA. It's a sad and irritating fact there are self entitled people in the world. Apparently some of them have a disability. Having a disability doesn't give any of them the right to abuse others.
Am I the only one wondering how this stranger had this persons phone number? I find that hard to believe...
Im a wheelchair user and I get frustrated about situations like this. Basically neither the op and the disabled woman are not at fault, although neither approached to the situation was very adult. As for the manager his definitely TA for the simple reason that he promised something he could not provide. I'm sure that the lady could take it to dispute. Sometimes we have to fight with the right person not the closest
The manager should not have rented an inaccessible apartment setup in the first place. This is all on the manager. GREED and stupidity.
If there are any spots next to an aisle or driving lane, she should get that one. But if there isn't, well, she is s**t out of luck and should not have signed the lease. I'm guessing she did not explain her van until after she moved in, and that the apartment manager is thinking he'll get sued for ADA stuff if he doesn't accommodate her. But, he needs to remember the "reasonable" bit, and tell her no, it's not going to work, so they'll let her out of her lease. Costing the apartment building hundreds a month to purchase her the use of an extra spot, one already assigned to another person by legal contract, would in all likelihood be deemed unreasonable, and the building manager would be in the clear to tell her she's on her own or can move out. And while most places have disabled spots, not very many have the extra big spots which are specifically for *vans*. A quick google says that van spots are 8 feet wider than regular spots and 3 feet wider than a standard disabled spot.
OP is TA. Management is required by law to accommodate the disabled tenant, and did so. OP refused to cooperate because "muh parking", as if he can't walk. He's a jerk.
The apartment manager should not have rented to someone who needs a disabled spot without having a spot available. This is not your problem.
If the parking space was the deciding factor the apartment manager should not have rented to her as no handicapped spots were available. It is not your problem.
The manager is an a**hole for promising a disabled woman a parking space that they DID NOT HAVE.
I think there is a bigger issue here of the manager giving out your private information without your permission. I'd be finding a way to report that. You are not required to make accomodations for her. That is on the property.
Sounds like the landlord ITA for not having disabled parking. If this is in the U.S. he's violating the ADA, so of course he told her he would get her a spot. And giving another resident the OPs phone# to harass them makes it even worse. The OP was nice enough to agree to swap a super convenient spot for a less desirable one, but should be under no obligation to give it up entirely. Really mostly the landlord is TA, although I'd say partly the disabled woman as well, for harassing the OP over an issue she needs to take up with the landlord.
landlord is a*****e for giving other tenant your phone number and promising her something he had no control over
Landlord is unreal for promising disabled parking where none exists & then asking someone else to give up their spot so the new tenant can have 2. Also ridiculous for giving OPs phone number to her. She's ridiculous for parking in the inadequate spot & expecting OP to come out & move their car every single time. Then to have the nerve to be nasty to them?! I never answer my phone to unknown numbers, OP should not have ever picked up. Let her call the police & explain how she could possibly park where she did & still expect to be able to get in & out. Honestly, if she was a kinder person, I'd probably think of other solutions, but for her to be nasty & then refuse to move her car for OP after he moved his repeatedly? Nah. She needs to find more suitable accommodations elsewhere. Next! (Also, this is why many vans that have been custom fitted for the disabled have the entry and liFt in the REAR, not the side. She might want to consider trading half of a rear seat to be able to park.)
Nta. Being disabled doesn't give her the right to be rude and pretty much insufferable. The apartment manager shares in the blame. He created this situation and rather than find a solution he attempted to just let it work itself out. How did she even get her phone number? That manager will just need to rent the next apartment without a spot and give it to the rude disabled woman. Whatever your circumstances in life are they don't give you a free pass to be an entitled a*****e or to pass off problems you create onto other people.
That apartment manager is gonna get SUED. He's fighting the ADA. The federal government always wins in cases like these. OP needs to work with the other tenant, not against her. Together, and with other tenants to help, they could really get a legal case going.
The handicapped woman knew before she moved in that there was going to be problems. Just because a person is handicapped, it does not entitle them to do these things. I am disabled. I would not move into a place until I knew there was a space to park.
Unfortunate situation. And the woman doesn’t seem to see that she gives disabled people a bad name when she demands special treatment. I’m all for handicap accessibility. I use it myself. However, asking you to move your car for her to use her ramp is one thing. Calling you when she wants to, and expecting immediate response even before you are awake it’s an entirely different thing. As far as giving up your parking spot, that would be problematic and not something you should have to do. And the landlord is behaving in a possibly illegal and definitely AH manner. Curious? Was he planning on charging her twice for two spots? It sounds as if this apartment is not at all handicap assessable. I wish more places were, because it makes it difficult to find a place. But blaming him for it is not going to help her.
NTA. The apartment manager should apply to the city to get a space in front of the building designated as a specialized space for the tenant that needs it. If this is Canada, they are legally required to have accessible parking for EVERY complex.
Jeez! I just saw this is a year old! Get new stuff BP!!
Load More Replies... I don't believe this is a real story. The apartment manager can't give out your phone number to another tenant. Also Federal Accessibility laws apply to residential, ADA and FHA apartment buildings with parking structures. It's usually 2% requirement. Also I am sure someone else would take a rate reduction to lose a spot.
The only ahole is the apartment complex. The apartment has an elevator, so if it in the US, ADA applies here. As well as the whole manager giving phone numbers out. This is shady stuff. Depending on the state, if the manager doesn't live on the property, they need a real estate brokers license. I would look to see if they have one and report them to Dept of Real Estate. They aren't supposed to give out contact info without consent of tenet.
Why doesn't the manager give you their parking spot, so the disabled lady can have your parking spot near the elevator? The manager caused the problem not you.
In your description you describe your spot as next to the wall and the wall is several feet long. Without seeing a picture. I wonder if she had your spot could she just not pull in all the way to allow the ramp to deploy or eould this block the passage way through the garage? I agree you are not the a hole and the property manager is one. If the management has a privacy policy and he violated it you may have recourse for leaking your contact information to her. It falls to him to resolve the issue he created as it doesnt seem these spots are marked handicapped.
Management should not have rented to someone who needs 2 parking spaces that weren't available. I would agree to give up my spot once I'd found another apartment, a release from the lease, and payment for the best moving company in town with drawer to drawer service.
If there is no room for her van, she needs to find somewhere else to live. That simple
NTA, as much as I understand differently abled people getting a spot, this is really on the apartment manager for putting OP in a compromising situation by telling them to give up their spot that they were already paying for in the first place. Manager is responsible for accommodations, or saying that there isn't a space available. But for the sake of getting rent from new tenant, landlord bends to new tenant and hopes to take space from established tenant. That is not right, in itself, or manager needs to have an available spot for original tenant since OP was willing to switch if there was an open spot.
Contact a lawyer. Giving away your phone number is illegal if it a cell phone. Then file compliant with fcc.
I'm confused on how this parking garage is set up. Don't they all have a middle row of spots that aren't blocked by anything? Why couldn't she just park on one of the outside spots there?
"what else was I supposed to do?" Not act like a total A and then try to use your disability to make it "ok", yet not actually change your A behavior? Maybe, started off on the right foot. "Hey, I got this and that going, my spot is next to yours" until the manager can get somethign worked out, how about I call you when I need to access my van? Here's my proposed schedule..."Oh, 5:30 say morning won't work? Ok, I'll make arangements. for that day." I realize you normally don't rise until 8:30, but is there any chance you can do 7:30 on work days, I start at 8... for a few weeks, in the meantime, I'll have the manager look to find a spot near someone that normally leaves earlier, and maybe you two can switch or something...?" Not, "move your car beatch, I got plans", then pull the ol' 2 spots move, followed by "screw you, not moving"...ok, tow it is. Now, it's on, and OP ain't budging, you lose.
I also have a convenient spot near the elevator. I'd give it up to a disabled person if asked....as long as I get another spot within the parkade. I would NOT park on the street, in an area known for smashed windows, just to help a stranger who the building manager shouldn't have rented to in the first place.
I don't know what country this is in, however here in the states that would fall under the ADA (obligatory INAL). Which means the apartment manager is the one that needs to go on a special diet and s**t that woman a parking space.
#1 No, you are not being a jerk. #2 Your only obligation is to pay taxes then die. #3 Treat her like you would treat anyone else who would dare to park in your paid spot, equal, it's how they're asked to be treated. I would obliged...not a problem. #4 Ask yourself how would you treat an able body jerk that did this? She's not exempt, she doesn't seem to have anything wrong with her mouth. #5.The manager dude is at fault! He's offering this lady accommodations the building doesn't have, ramps, a parking spot, maybe an elevator? Pace? if her van dies..tickets to the Opera? a Spa date...you get my point...and..he's giving out phone numbers too. Better you than me bro... manager dude would have his very own wheelchair once I finished with him. P.S. I work very late nights, I am known to turn into the incredible Hulk if I am awaken like this. Bye Felicia! and Frank.
It seems to me that it's the responsibility of the disabled person to ensure that there actually is parking to suit her needs available before she signed the lease. If there wasn't a disabled spot that accommodated the ramp to her van then that there actually was two spots available to be assigned to her. Otherwise the apartment doesn't fully suit her needs and she needs to keep looking.
NTA -- the solution may be for her to compromise to a smaller/narrower van, since it may not be easy to accomodate in the places she chooses to live. It's unfortunately her own dilemna. Unless you're willing to switch to a motorcycle🤭
So what? What's wong with you? You have slow day too and read old post.
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OP is definitely NTA. The apartment manager is the a**hole here, for renting an apartment to someone who needed disabled parking but knew they didn't have it available, or, the disabled renter is the a**hole here, because they might not have been forthright about their needs, and sprung it on the apartment complex after the lease was signed.
We were totally made to give up our parking space. We have two cars, but when we bought the house we were assured there will be place for both. Same in the contract. We paid for both. In the end , one of the spaces was taken from us and given to a newcomer. Fortunately we were able to find satisfactory solution, but my point is- in Japan such things happen and you can’t do anything.
If this is the US, the poster is going to lose their space when their lease is up. US disability law requires a disability space with access as close to the door as possible. His space will be eliminated and merged into the other space to create it as soon as the owner legally is capable.
You are so incorrect plus she can be towed for taking a designated. You are not entitled to park as you wish because of a disability
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