Guy Is Stunned After Being Accused Of Unethical Pay Raise Negotiation For Choosing Counteroffer
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Job interviews are an unavoidable part of adult life. Some of us are not the biggest fans of attending job interviews; maybe we lack confidence, maybe we don’t like to not know what to expect or maybe it just stresses us out for unknown reasons. On the other hand, others enjoy them – they can learn something new, find out a little bit more about the company’s various structures, culture and they don’t understand why some folks could be worried about them.
However, it doesn’t matter which side you are on; everyone tries to be professional during job interviews. I believe that goes without saying, but if you are doing your best to be as professional as possible, you expect nothing less from the recruiter.
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Getting called out by a recruiter for declining an offer is a different kind of ‘didn’t expect that coming’
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Guy shares his recent job interview’s outcome after shockingly being called unethical by an incompetent recruiter
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He received an offer with 15% higher pay than his current place, thus his current job increased his salary to match the pay
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He decided to stay at his workplace and declined the offer, but ended up being accused of applying for jobs so he could negotiate a pay raise
Recently a person took his story to one of the Reddit communities explaining how a recruiter chewed him out after he declined a job offer. The story went viral immediately and 20 hours later it had already more than 37K upvotes and 5K comments.
So to begin with, OP shares that he really enjoys his work, but the pay was low. He told this to his boss, but despite trying to give him a raise, he couldn’t do it. The author then informed his boss that he would be searching for a new job, and he completely understood. He found a job, had an interview and got an offer with 15% higher pay.
The author informed his boss and gave notice; however, a few days after this, the company managed to match this pay. OP says that he preferred his current job, thus he decided to stay. Now, moving to the most dramatic part – the employee informed the recruiter that he was declining the offer. Shockingly, he was accused of unethical negotiation of a pay raise, that he wasted her time and he shouldn’t apply to other jobs if he is not going to take it.
Folks online said that this is quite common as the recruiter is mad about missed commission. “The recruiter is pissed you cost her a commission. She acted unprofessionally. Sounds like she is not cut out for her job,” one user wrote. Another also added: “you have no ‘ethical’ obligation to keep a job to pay someone else. She’s out for herself and you should be out for yourself – that’s literally why we work.”
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Bored Panda got in touch with Vicky Ulinici, who has expertise in recruitment, employer branding, employee engagement, career advice and HR consultancy! She kindly agreed to share her insights regarding this situation.
“Salary conversations can be uncomfortable for employees, as many expect the company to initiate such discussions. However, more employees are now initiating these talks, and not all managers are well-prepared to handle them effectively,” Vicky says.
Speaking about how managers can foster a positive experience for employees during these salary discussions, Vicky emphasizes that managers should approach it honestly and professionally. “Avoiding or ignoring such conversations can push employees to seek other job offers, especially if financial motivation plays a significant role for them.”
She also addresses that companies should set transparent expectations from the beginning, ideally through a clear Career Path Policy. If there is no formal policy, managers should explain during performance reviews why a raise may not be possible at the moment. However, “To retain valuable employees, alternative compensation options like bonuses, additional vacation time, travel expenses, or company-paid certificates can be proposed.”
And finally, Vicky highlights that as managers, employers or recruiters it’s important to understand that employees have the right to explore their opportunities. “This situation shouldn’t be deemed unethical since it is within the employee’s rights. If the company decides to make a counteroffer to retain the employee, it indicates a willingness to invest in retaining valuable talent rather than incurring replacement costs.”
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Moreover, folks online discussed that accepting a counteroffer is not always the best move. So let’s look at statistics. According to Eclipse Software, 80% of candidates who accept a counteroffer from their present employment quit after 6 months. Okay, that already doesn’t look too good. Moreover, 9 out of 10 employees who accept a counteroffer leave within 12 months.
Now, of course, in almost every situation, there are pros and cons. So speaking about accepting counteroffers, indeed Career Guide shares that the first advantage is remaining in the familiar workplace. Secondly, it can improve self-worth in confidence as receiving counteroffers means that the company values you and doesn’t want you to leave. And also, you have an opportunity to earn a higher salary.
However, there are also cons. To begin with, it could be difficult for you to recognize your genuine worth when you accept a counteroffer. It can also change dynamics in the workplace with your coworkers. They may not receive the same benefits and lose their sense of loyalty to the company. And finally, you may not receive another pay raise for a while. A lot of counteroffers support only one-time pay raises.
Long story short, accepting a counteroffer and staying at the same company has both pros and cons – you may feel more valued and enjoy doing what you like, but it may be a little obstacle to improvement or a higher salary in the future. However, everyone knows what’s best for themselves, thus the person who will make the right decision is ourselves!
Redditors discussed that author was not guilty of what he was accused of, though some suggested that he should have taken a new job
NTA - that is quite common, the recruiter is unprofessionell and shoulf find annother line of work
Exactly. People work for money, not to make other people happy. OP won’t use this recruiter again. Will tell friends/colleague about recruiter and company. Hope her giddy fit was worth it. But, ultimately, staying was a mistake. They didn’t have the money till OP was at the door. Yeah, OP will somehow be paying them for their “generosity” until she leaves.
Load More Replies... The OP has learnt a number of things here: Recruiters are idiots; their employer could have easily given them a pay rise some time ago if they’d wanted to; their employer doesn’t value the OP and has no loyalty to them beyond convenience; they are capable of finding better-paid jobs. The first three of these are unwelcome - but they haven’t been caused by this episode, merely revealed. The OP is also now better at interviewing and has more confidence in future job searches (“I rock and employers want me”). Keep looking, but for something that is both the right job and the right pay. And avoid that recruiter like the plague.
Some recruiters are insane. This one recruiter started harassing my husband because he kept declining the job offer he interviewed for that was supposed to be remote with occasional travel. But then they told him we'd have to move to Seattle and work at the Microsoft campus. He didn't want to uproot us so he declined. The guy offered a 30k sign up bonus and free relocation and when my husband still said no, he started yelling and acted outraged that he had the nerve to turn down the offer. He kept calling and he had to block his #. That 30k bonus would probably only cover like 6 months or so of rent over there. House prices there are bonkers so we'd never be able to afford to buy one even with a big bump in pay. No thanks!
NTA - that is quite common, the recruiter is unprofessionell and shoulf find annother line of work
Exactly. People work for money, not to make other people happy. OP won’t use this recruiter again. Will tell friends/colleague about recruiter and company. Hope her giddy fit was worth it. But, ultimately, staying was a mistake. They didn’t have the money till OP was at the door. Yeah, OP will somehow be paying them for their “generosity” until she leaves.
Load More Replies... The OP has learnt a number of things here: Recruiters are idiots; their employer could have easily given them a pay rise some time ago if they’d wanted to; their employer doesn’t value the OP and has no loyalty to them beyond convenience; they are capable of finding better-paid jobs. The first three of these are unwelcome - but they haven’t been caused by this episode, merely revealed. The OP is also now better at interviewing and has more confidence in future job searches (“I rock and employers want me”). Keep looking, but for something that is both the right job and the right pay. And avoid that recruiter like the plague.
Some recruiters are insane. This one recruiter started harassing my husband because he kept declining the job offer he interviewed for that was supposed to be remote with occasional travel. But then they told him we'd have to move to Seattle and work at the Microsoft campus. He didn't want to uproot us so he declined. The guy offered a 30k sign up bonus and free relocation and when my husband still said no, he started yelling and acted outraged that he had the nerve to turn down the offer. He kept calling and he had to block his #. That 30k bonus would probably only cover like 6 months or so of rent over there. House prices there are bonkers so we'd never be able to afford to buy one even with a big bump in pay. No thanks!
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