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“Why Do So Many People, Especially Older Folks, Refuse To Understand?”: People Discuss The Younger Generation’s Refusal To Have Kids
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“Why Do So Many People, Especially Older Folks, Refuse To Understand?”: People Discuss The Younger Generation’s Refusal To Have Kids

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When someone close to you is having a hard time, the least you can do is listen to them and validate their feelings.

But when Reddit user u/AdSpecialist6598 realized what their friend was going through, they were so furious that they thought the platform’s r/antiwork community needs to hear about it, too.

The Redditor always viewed their buddy as a family man, and it’s something he would like for himself as well, however, the man simply can’t afford to have one.

u/AdSpecialist6598 admitted they really feel for him but added that the rage only grows whenever they hear people refusing to believe that a high-spirited individual cannot grow their household because of financial troubles. You know, because obviously only lazy members of society are short on money.

When this person asked their buddy why isn’t he starting a family, the man said it’s because he can’t afford one

Image credits: Patricia Prudente (not the actual photo)

And apparently, many people refuse to believe that anyone who’s a hard worker can end up in such a situation

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This post is a clear illustration of the fact that more young Americans are planning to not have children

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In 2021, the Pew Research Center found that 44% of nonparents between 18 to 49 aren’t planning to start families — a jump of 7 percentage points from three years earlier.

Among parents and non-parents alike, men and women are virtually equally likely to say they will probably not have kids (or more kids) in the future, but as somewhat expected, adults in their 40s are way more likely than younger ones to claim this.

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Some 85% of non-parents 40 to 49 say this statement is true, compared with 37% of those under 40. And while 91% of older parents say they probably won’t have more kids, 60% of younger parents say the same.

When it comes to the actual reasons behind their decision, things get a little blurry. 56% of non-parents younger than 50 who say it’s unlikely they will have children someday say it’s because they just don’t want to have kids.

However, among childless adults who said their choice was influenced by something else, money was one of the biggest factors, with 19% saying it’s due to medical reasons, 17% saying it’s for financial reasons, and 15% saying it’s because they do not have a partner.

And the cost of this decision is one of the biggest reasons behind it

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Americans who are thinking about starting a family have one important figure to consider: the cost of raising a child from birth to age 17 will set them back by about $310,000.

That’s according to a 2022 analysis from the Brookings Institution, which analyzed the Department of Agriculture’s 2015 estimate for the cost of raising a child and ran the numbers to account for inflation since then. Since 2020 alone, the higher pace of inflation has added as much as $26,000 to the cost of raising a child, according to the research.

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The findings came amid a long-term trend of declining birthrates: the number of births in the U.S. dropped in 2020 to their lowest level since 1979. Advocates have pointed to a lack of family-friendly policies such as paid family leave. In fact, the country is the only developed nation without such a program. The Biden Administration sought to expand the Child Tax Credit and provide more support for childcare costs, but those plans fizzled with the failure of the Build Back Better Act.

The discussion that followed the publication of the story shows that it might be more common than we think

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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can’t even begin to understand why some people call being childless “selfish.” What exactly does not having children cost other people?

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10 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's ppl who think that it's everyone's social duty to reproduce. So by not doing so you're neglecting your social duty? To them, it's the equivalent of say driving a more polluting car or something. Something you shouldn't do. Which isn't the worst logic but the premise that reproducing is a social imperative is wrong for a start.

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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm an early Boomer, but I totally get it. My daughter and SIL made the "No kids" choice. One, I am so proud of them. Two, in their shoes, I would have made the same choice.

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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

$300,000 is the cost of raising a kid to the age of 18....and that's if you have a "normal" kid with no medical issues or disabilities. Also we're at over 8-billion people population-wise now and I seriously don't think we're in any danger of going extinct any time soon, so that's another factor in people skipping the kid-thing altogether.

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And we are getting +80 million every year. In Africa, Asia, South America, not in North America and Europe. The issue is not the human race going extinct but western societies collapsing and if that happened the climate would be so f**ked because those +80 million a year are dependent on low energy technologies from western societies or their CO2 emissions explode. Now the #1 reason for women deciding not to have children is because they are pressured into having careers. And while you can have a job and a child you can't have a career and a family, unless your partner stays at home. At the same time men get told that they suppress women, their ambitions are toxic and more women should do the well paid high education jobs so men drop out of higher education and stop taking on responsibilities. That leaves high educated women high and dry because you can't found a family with a man-child as partner while trying to make a career. Oh boy I will get so downvoted for this again :D

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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I can’t even begin to understand why some people call being childless “selfish.” What exactly does not having children cost other people?

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Tj H
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10 months ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's ppl who think that it's everyone's social duty to reproduce. So by not doing so you're neglecting your social duty? To them, it's the equivalent of say driving a more polluting car or something. Something you shouldn't do. Which isn't the worst logic but the premise that reproducing is a social imperative is wrong for a start.

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Robin DJW
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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm an early Boomer, but I totally get it. My daughter and SIL made the "No kids" choice. One, I am so proud of them. Two, in their shoes, I would have made the same choice.

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10 months ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

$300,000 is the cost of raising a kid to the age of 18....and that's if you have a "normal" kid with no medical issues or disabilities. Also we're at over 8-billion people population-wise now and I seriously don't think we're in any danger of going extinct any time soon, so that's another factor in people skipping the kid-thing altogether.

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10 months ago (edited)

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And we are getting +80 million every year. In Africa, Asia, South America, not in North America and Europe. The issue is not the human race going extinct but western societies collapsing and if that happened the climate would be so f**ked because those +80 million a year are dependent on low energy technologies from western societies or their CO2 emissions explode. Now the #1 reason for women deciding not to have children is because they are pressured into having careers. And while you can have a job and a child you can't have a career and a family, unless your partner stays at home. At the same time men get told that they suppress women, their ambitions are toxic and more women should do the well paid high education jobs so men drop out of higher education and stop taking on responsibilities. That leaves high educated women high and dry because you can't found a family with a man-child as partner while trying to make a career. Oh boy I will get so downvoted for this again :D

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