
Mom Writes An Honest Poem At 4 A.M. About Her Husband Who Sleeps Instead Of Helping With The Baby
You can read every child-rearing book on the shelf and interview all the parents you know, but you can never be fully prepared for all of the life changes that come with your first baby. New mom Caroline Olling Andersen, however, found a brilliant way to deal with them. Writing poetry. (Facebook cover image: Monkey Business Images)
Image credits: Caroline Olling Andersen
“My husband is a fantastic dad,” Caroline told Bored Panda. “He is an amazing primary school teacher, and he has always brought a lot of fun and humor to our relationship, which he now also brings to daddyhood.”
Image credits: Caroline Olling Andersen
My latest 4 a.m. poem titled, “Daddy’s Asleep:”
I love your daddy, I really do,
After all, without daddy, I wouldn’t have you.
But from midnight till sunrise, it’s just you and I.
And as each hour passes, I’m not gonna lie:
Mommy’s love slowly fades, becomes angry and weak,
Because no matter what, your dad is f*cking asleep!
The poem quickly started making headlines on the internet and attracted all sorts of attention. “After the poem went viral, I’ve read a lot of comments which have shamed him for not being more active at night and me for complaining about his inactivity,” Caroline, who also finds the time to manage a parenting blog called The Mommy Poet, added. “Truth is, we made a deal during my pregnancy that I’d take the night shift, because I’ve been blessed with long maternity leave. [This way,] he gets to sleep so he can be ready for his 10-12 hour day teaching 10-year-olds. That said, tiredness will still cause you a lot of passive aggressive feelings in the early hours at night – hence my poem, which was written at 4 am on a particularly tiring night (everything I wrote in that poem happened on that one night).”
At first, however, the sleepy dad wasn’t amused by the poem. “When I read the poem out loud to him the next morning, he didn’t find it particularly funny – though he was simultaneously trying to soothe our fuzzy daughter, so I might have chosen the wrong time to read him a mockery poem. It was only later that day, over ice cream and a sleeping daughter, that he read it out loud and laughed and said it was brilliant. He since suggested that we get a laptop for me so I have an appropriate platform to write during my early morning waves of creativity.”
“Parenthood is tough and rough and can really strain a relationship. We make a solid attempt to place our relationship very high on our list of priorities. My parents (happily married for 29 years)- have taught me that a marriage should be prioritized above the children. As my mother said – “Happy parents results in happy children”. As per the airplane instructions – “attend to yourself before helping your child.” So that means making sure we have date nights and take time each day to put the baby down and kiss and hug each other. A lot of people have misunderstood the tone of my poem as anger towards my husband. It’s meant to be read with humor and love for both him and my daughter.”
Another of these pseudo-lovely public shaming of a pouse. If you really believe publicly criticising your loved-one is a good thing to do, spare us the photos that show the alleged love. If you cannot solve this issue between the two of you, or maybe with the help of close friends or family, you have a major issue anyway. Being told to the whole world how shitty you are on Twitter will surely not get you into the mood to change something for good. And besides, what you are going through has been faced by any parent in the history of mankind. Talking to each other and actively searching for solutions is the way out. And it might be as easy as having the man sleep next to the crib instead of the mother. (Of course, it can be much harder, too.)
Exactly my thoughts. Absolutely unnecessary shaming after agreeing on a deal stating he can sleep and she'll care for the child at night.
Specially because she is on a maternity leave and he is not.
It says in the rest of the article that they had made a deal she would take the night shift due to her long maternity, as he then had to be at work for 10-12 hours teaching 10 year olds. My husband is a teacher so I can understand why the sleep is needed! But reading the poem alone, no one would have any idea! Totally agree with you on this spouse shaming business - sad to post that kind of stuff especially with no context!
yep. Its expected of us men to give 100% everywhere, everytime, no matter what. Its also expected that we sacrifice everything, everytime, just because. Then we get a spouse that cooks up that BS poem above just because she has feelings about the deal she consented to. Should end up in a divorce with her at fault, tbh.
She takes care of the baby all day and all night, and no matter what kind of an agreement they had, exhaustion is exhaustion and sometimes an outlet is needed. She gave it to her husband to read, and after thinking about it, he found it humorous. I doubt she would have made it public without his consent.
Well, if they have a deal and she writes a mocking poem that he finds funny: just perfect. Publicly sharing this sounds as if the "contract" has been cancelled unilaterally.
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SHE WAS TIRED!!!!! GET IT RIGHT!
Childfree and I don't regret it.
Childfree and single. Fuck wasting my time on stupid shit like this. Relationships take too much work and human beings aren't worth it. Especially I.
THIS is why I have a dog and am single!
so the Mom has a long maternity leave, the Dad has to go to work in the mornings and they also had a deal that she would be the one getting up, but sure lets blame all the dads
It was done jokingly and loveingly not meant serious if you read the whole article
Agreed Erin.
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*Sigh*
Classy passive-aggressive jerk outing her husband on social media with pictures as an added bonus. There are better ways to handle these situations.
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I’m out. Y’all frustrating me.
Very passive aggressive. She makes a fair deal with her husband (she is on leave, he teaches 10 hour days, thus she takes night shift by mutual agreement) - and then she stabs him in the back on social media. I'd be pissed if I was him.
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She may have been breastfeeding the baby while writing.
Oh, highly unlikely! It isn't that easy to breast feed!
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SHE WAS TIRED. Besides, he read it and laughed.
If she is so tired why waste time writing crap poetry instead of sleeping.
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Honestly, I think it was more of a joke. It really isn’t something to get mad about.
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Hmmm...... I think i know you Vanilla.......
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Exactly Vanilla. I don’t get why everyone’s so triggered.
This narrative of women complaining about having to look after their own children is getting boring. You don't want to breast feed in the middle of the night then don't have kids it's that simple. If a guy pressures you into it then be strong and say no, it's more often women deciding they want kids not the other way round anyway. Just stop complaining about the choices you made.
Absolutely. It's very well known that sleep will be seriously fragmented and you will feel like a zombie at times. It ends.
Your fine Liam. My Mom is okay as long as i don’t use language i found in here.
That's okay then! 👌 Sensible mom! Spot on with autocorrect - drives me nuts.
EDIT: FOund in here. I hate autocorrect.
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She loves the baby. I am twelve and Mom is always tired. She loves us and takes the best care of Dad, my brother and I. She doesn’t regret anything. She just gets tired and frustrated.
Wow, I forget that not everyone on here is an adult. I'm not sure you should be talking to strangers online but your family are lucky to have such an appreciative child.
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I like to voice my opinions.
You're 12? I'm with anarkzie. EDIT: Don't misunderstand me Bored Phoenix I don't think you're dumb or anything. Just we have our share of nutters on here and a few who use absolutely foul language. I know you'll have heard it all before and I know you don't care about my opinion but I'd be worried about how your mum would feel about it. Mums worry.
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Sorry Liam. #Dontcare
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And... I’m not dumb and don’t fall for crap.
Subject matter aside, it doesn't scan well. I find it hard to read and get the metre right. I know she wrote it at 4am but could have given it a bit of attention before sharing it. Makes me think she can't be that tired if she's writing poetry anyway. This is also a plan they both agreed in advance so why show resentment to all and sundry?
I thought the same about the metre - awkward in places.
It wasn't published dear god it was posted on Facebook and happened to go viral. I love how all the comments defending her are down voted lol way to be positive internet peeps... not like you're authors...
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Uh, she explained above. She was in a bad state of mind & this let her vent. We all feel angry unfairly with our loved ones at some time, and she's smart enough to realize she was just angry in the moment.
I would still have revised it before publishing. The wrong metre can detract from a good poem. Extra beats in a line you were not expecting. Bit like off-key in music.
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I agree! She was tired. It was 4 a.m. Give her a freaking break! JEESE
I became very resentful towards my husband the first two years of our now 12 year old's life. I had PPD, and barely slept because he was colicky. He never had night duty...ever. Not even when I was sick. Thankfully my MIL was awesome and would take him for a few hours so I could nap,shower and have ME time.
I hope he was supportive in other ways! MIL should have given him a kick up the backside. Sorry but I get cross when I read about women struggling with PPD and husbands doing feck all.
He did a lot during the day when he was not working. He knows how I felt about those two years when our son was really small. He's made amends(lol) for it all. He really did not know how bad *I* was then, because I was not very vocal.
Well at least you didn't hold a grudge, Lilium. lol
Blames her husband for her own problem. Typical woman.
As he said he has work to go to and to earn money to support his family.. So why he can't sleep? It would be the same way if she would work and he would be stay at home dad.. Why both of them need to be super tired and sleep deprived.. Of course the would be the moments when he will have to step in and help. But I'm tired of all that "Oh he is not waking up at 2 am to change diapers or he sleeps while I need to wake up 5 times to feed the baby". He does his part too, earning money to make sure his family has all it needs..
When my first child was born my husband helped me every night, I woke up to breastfeed and sometimes it was him to feed the baby with my milk obtained with the breast pump .. most of the time it was him to change the diaper before to put him in the crib. During all this time he continued to work while I was on maternity leave. Helping me in this way has helped me not to fall into postpartum depression and above all a exhaustion by sleep deprivation, to recover first from birth and mastitis. Despite the first challenging year, one day he asked me "why don't we make another baby?". I know that my husband has certainly made a special effort to help me and that you can not ask all the fathers to behave this way, but sometime, just one night a week, the father could offer to change the baby or make him fall asleep again, to allow you to sleep 4 hours in a row instead of 2 at a time .. sometimes just a small gesture is enough to make the mothers understand that even the father is making his best and that after all it is a team work!
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Chris, He could be a little nice....
HE was nice. There isn't anything he did that was unpleasant.
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What about weekends? Or maybe, this might sound crazy, but maybe. He could wake up at least once? Just once.
They had a deal where he would sleep because he has to go and earn money all day and if he doesn't do it very well he could lose his job. If my partner and I had an agreement where they deal with the baby at night and then my partner wrote dreadful, whinging poetry in the middle of the night about not getting enough sleep WHEN THEY SHOULD BE ASLEEP I'd be seriously pissed off.
That's why I hesitate in having children...
Because of sleep? Goodness you can sleep all day with a baby if you have maternity leave. They do nothing but sleep. They don't even make mess.
except when they scream and $h!+ themselves all the time
Oh give me a break. Surely you do not have a baby if you think they "sleep all day." Everything one does with a baby is in 5-20 minute increments.
My advice - dont think about the next few years of motherhood. Think about how you will feel after age 60 with no family
Yeah! Like kids are some sort of insurance from loneliness when old....not. Have you ever talked to elderly people? Kids don't visit until it's time for their inheritance. The elders without kids often have a much more social life with more friends and active hobbies, so they don't have to depend on their relatives visiting.
Really? You have children because you are scared of being alone? How pathetic can you be. People like you are scared of being alone with their own thoughts. Some of us enjoy solitude and silence. Accept it.
I'm 57 and I have no kids and I'm f--king GLAD I have no kids Diane, you dumb cow.
It isn’t like this is inevitable. Normal healthy couples talk and make arrangements that work for them.
Thats one of the main reasons why I wont have kids. I know that at the end it will come to me giving up my carreer and free time to take care of the baby... If my partner wont even clean or do the laundry he cant convince me that he will changhe diapers, wake up at night, do homework, make dinners...
Why do you imply that this is the way it must be? I truly believe that in a partnership you can find a fair share of duties, whatever that individually might be. A baby changes the life a lot, but it can actually change the life a lot for good. Having much less time for yourself, having many more duties and responsibilities, yet be happier than ever? Yes, that IS possible.
@Helena: it absolutely is. However, it is bad advise to make that decision based on what moany parents have to tell.
It's okay to not want/have children. The most important thing is that everyone respects people's decisions
I imply it because it is proven than women do most of the house chores and take care of the majority of child care. I know my partnet and it would be the case for us.
what if you have no partner, Hans? not everyone can handle being a single parent. I know I couldn't.
Sounds like you have a shitty partner.
Let me guess...but you WILL expect him to make apropriate money, AND help in-house, AND support you and the child AND ... (insert list here) ? Do you push objectivelly, equal effort on yourself, in all those areas, as well? If the answer is not an objective "yes", then you are quite a hypocrite. You might not like it if you were in our boots regarding being a parent. Seriously, you wouldnt. Because we men dont even get reproduction related rights, we only have one-sided responsibilities.
No, I expect to worknd earn my money. I expect all the responsabilities to be divided in half. But Europe at least the majority of WORKING women still do most of the house chores and kid raising.
You sound hurt (no sarcasm).
Why do people care so much about their careers? Your career will end one day when you retire and you will be left alone and without a family to look after you. I just don't understand all the drama around having children- it's one of the most natural things in the world.
Careers can be very fulfilling. Some jobs do a lot of good for others - they aren't all spent making money for some bloated capitalist. Just because a person has children doesn't mean they'll be there at the end. It's a selfish reason to procreate.
career pays the bills and keeps a damned roof over your damned head - maybe thats because ? And it covers that stay-at-home-mum's personal expenses, and those can be a plenty. And said SAHM is often PUSHING her partner into MORE work because she just MUUUUST HAVE that vacation next year. And a new CAR, because that guy next door just had one! Maybe thats some of the reasons? Or maybe you expect us men to just fuck over our career, take a hit to earnings, then get divorce dropped by said SAHM because WE DONT EARN AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD?! Get a grip on reality. Seriously do get it.
Well, I studied for 25 years of my life to try to get in my career. I am suposed to trow it all away now just because I am a woman?
"without a family to look after you" one of the most selfish reasons to have akid in the first damn place. Hmmmm let me have a kid only so that I can have someone to take care of me in my old age. Tell that same crap to the old folks whos kids dump them in nursing homes, Im sure at one point they had the same reasoning for having kids.
$h!++ing on the sidewalk is natural too, doesn't mean you should do it.
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As much as I hate to admit it, I am starting to agree Oath. No, kids are not for everyone, and everyone should be respected in their wishes to be child-free ( I personally do not WANT people who do not desire kids to have them), however I have seen my proudly child-free aunt change her mind WAY too late. She was a teacher who worked her way to becoming the Assistant Superintendent of her large, local school district. She was highly paid, nice large home, frequent trips and vacations, very comfortable life. Now? She is 69 years old. No kids, no grandkids, only one sibling. She lives 400 miles away from her only sister (my mother). Her husband passed. She has to come to our house for Christmas (she has nowhere else to go) and other distant relatives homes for other holidays. She has told my mom how lonely she is. Her friends are dying off. THAT is not for me...not so I can live my 30's and 40's "child free"...I would rather have warm family around me during my elder years.
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Oathtaker, you get it.
So he has to work, do the laundry, change diapers, wake up at night, make dinners. And what do you do? Be a cow?
Another reason why I have not and will not ever have children.
Teaching full time (exhausting) to support the family while mom breastfeeds... Let the provider sleep. I think she is just venting.
that venting is enough for a divorce case. He's not her fucking feelings-based punching bag.
Honestly! I'm damn ELEVEN years old and you would think that a grown adult would have read more of it than me. She was TIRED. She didn't really mean it.
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Michal, he laughed at it. yall need to read alittle deeper.
Jammy Tee, shut the hell up. No one is buying that you're 11, nice try though.
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Agreed
So you write one line about how wonderful your partner is and next you write more than 30 lines to totally destroy said partner. I get it. It's funny when you destroy your partner on social media. Outstanding move...
If you're a breastfeeding mum this is quite often what it feels like. My OH always did their fair share but sigh *useless nipples* . It's all temporary though, most babies start sleeping through night at about 6/7 months old. It feels like a lifetime in the moment but it's a short time over your kids childhood.
well, maybe you should NOT do a deal that you WILL do the night work, that you CONSENTED to, and then piss on your partner because he's adhering to said deal?
You're funny, it's a partnership and both parents do their fair share. But everyone has emotions and it's hard not to be a bit jealous of someone that is sleeping peacefully through the night whilst you are feeding baby. And I know I don't speak for all parents but my kids refused bottles which meant there wasn't much of a choice even when dad was happy to do some night feeds. I don't blame him in anyway and he's a great dad
I honestly think she could've handled it in a better way. After all, she was on leave and the dad did have work... so I mean... he'd be passing out on the floor at work if he was the one having to do all this.
Well... I said my terms and conditions. My wife said her terms and conditions. We are cool.
Boobs work while you are asleep to. So the father can place the baby in position while the mother continues to sleep, if the child refuses to take the bottle. Hope to see you soon in this modern and gender equal world, you just need to open your mind to new possibilities instead of complaining about things you actually can change. Or are you one of those people that wants to complain?
Wouldn't that wake the mother up right away?
No, not necessarily. And if it does, she doesn't have to move and can fall back asleep again.
My twins were born prematurely and it was tough for the first 6 months. My husband was a dentist and had to basically cut people's faces open for a living. We definitely had an agreement that he sleepy thru the night when he had to work. I fully understood and yet resented the sleep he got while I dealt with the twins every 2 hours... Thankfully I had help, but I still could easily have written thatn poem!
This is so unnecessary. She stays at home. He probably works hard. He needs a rest too, so his work performance wouldn't suffer. He is supporting family as well?
She is an absolute PSYCHO. Feel bad for the guy. This is not going to end well.
uff putting online in public is the worst thing she could do. I think this would be funny between them and family/friends. When it becomes famous on the internet, thats when your hubby will get enough rocks thrown at him to build a castle!
When my daughter was born she never ever slept at night or at all. My husband could sleep through the night and not hear our daughter. He did shift work 4 on 4 off. I was starting to go insane with the lack of sleep. So I made a deal with the hubby. I would sort out all night and when he was off work come 6am if she woke it was his turn and I would sleep in till 11 or 12 in the afternoon. Worked for us as I got my sleep and house got clean haha. When our son was born he was sleeping through the night from 8 weeks old so that was great. Might add daughter didn’t sleep through till she was 4 years old
What if the wife is a light sleeper and the husband is a sound sleeper. She is going to jump up first no matter what the well intentions of the father may be.
This is adorable! 😄
It goes both ways though, doesn't it? I think this trend of over-sharing is a bit unhealthy, and its really not any kind of revelation that women are the primary caregivers and nurturers of offspring. I think the pitfall is that it could be viewed as resentful and ungracious to complain about the times when its your sacrifices Because both partners make sacrifices, just different kinds. For example, fathers bear most of the burden of financially supporting the family, often without any contribution at all from the wife, which is not just stressful for 6 hours during the night but 24/7 until she goes back to work. Should men be writing poems about the stresses of being the only breadwinner in a relationship? And I wonder if they did, would the poem get the same reception and response as this one, or would it be a bunch of people saying "Well that's your job!" And if so, then same thing here - that's her job. She's the mom, its her role, because the father's role is to earn.
hahahahahahahahahahaha I don't have kids!
My husband changed nappies.......until we left hospital. After that, our daughter's needs were all mine. He's continued that attitude and now she is my best friend and tells me all sorts of stuff she'd never mention to a non-intimate (ie her father).
He's sleeping because he has to get up in the morning to go to work to pay for to pay for food, power and other things for the family you thoughtless, inconsiderate bitch. On the other hand, maybe it's a Sunday morning and he should wake up at 4 a.m on his day off and cheer you on as you feed the kid. What a fucking moron.
a husband doesnt have to "help". he has to share. its his baby 50%. if he doesnt realise that and tries to go back to sleep, a good hit with an elbow will do the trick.
cant believe how mothers today act like raising a child is something out of a horror film. I raised 2 daughters and a fully handi-capped son- it is just what you do. you are the ones that make it hard. and whine and complain .when it should be a natural thing. for women. my mother raised 15 of us and didnt complain that dad did not get up and help. most men dont do well with a crying one month old in the middle of the night-why do you think there is so much baby shaking. you convince your self that he does such a wonderful job with the baby to all the other mothers. so let me tell you he only pretends in front of you to keep the peace it is your job you had the baby and he can help when the baby gets a little older or you will have a man that does not want to walk through that front door-wake up and do your job .
50-50 in this household. When our son was born i worked sales with early start times and couldn't always get up for every feeding. Whenever I could you better believe i'd be helping change the diapers after she fed him, or once we started formula I would let her sleep on weekends and i'd take all the 1/3/5am feedings.
I had no help with night feedings, not a problem for me, however it's a good idea to have a plan before baby arrives !!!
Comments section is a hot mess on this, wow.
This sure brought out the hateful bunch of critters. You'd think this post was about politics from the enraged comments.
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we had 3 kids. for the last two we had a aggrement. she take the night and i get the rest. for the first baby when i took the night shift i get really mean, angry and aggressive when i got woke up by the baby during the night so it was probably not the best thing for the baby to got me around in that state of mind. it's Always depend of the people.
Or you could have worked on your anger and aggression. These things are controllable you know - that's just a cop out.
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when i'm in lack of sleep i'm not myself. i do lot of thing in the house: Dishes, cooking, Homework, cloth washing, cleaning. but waking up during the night it's a things i never be able to deal with.
Did she answer the 'what's wrong' question?
Daddy is so horribly passive aggressive- that whole "what's up Love" and "I think she's hungry" shit- makes mommy look like the bad guy if she gets mad and daddy gets exactly what he wants. Its utter bullshit.
After years of trying than fertility drugs when my son was born I never felt anything while my husband slept and I nursed. I loved every second of every night with all 3 of my children. I had babies that would nurse, get a diaper change and go back to sleep for 4 hours.Dad helped with everything during the day and evening when he wasn't at work.
Helped? You are not helping when you are taking your responsibility. Women need to stop saying that men help around the house etc.
There's a way to solved this...pump the breast milk, put it in bottles, then carefully place your foot on Daddy's backside and shove him out the bed at 2am when it's time to feed the baby. No reason he can't do his part..
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Agreed!
It sounds like she hooked up with a complete beta-male, fat slob, football-obsessed moron. Kinda has herself to blame.
You had me up until the last sentence. The fat slob should be helping out more.
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hahaha men are so stupid lazy and useless i hate men i hate them all lol haha men are stupid
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You married an asshole. Live with it. Well done on publicly shaming said asshole. Get ready to be a single mother now and enjoy all of the night duties forever.
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Jeez Krysta.
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He laughed at it. Remember that?
Laughing doesn't mean 'go ahead make it public'. Wait until you have a full time job and see how you feel about getting out of bed in the middle of the night when the baby's mother is capable of sleeping during the day whilst the baby is sleeping. Anyway, if she's so tired why is she writing lyrical (not) poetry instead of sleeping.
He didn't laugh when he first read it. It was much later. He then probably just pretended to keep her happy. Things people do in relationships. If she needs to vent she can write things and keep them private. Relationships are complicated - not that I mentioned divorce thank you 'sweetie'.
Rosie, he was tired and it wasn’t the best time to read him the poem. Read farther and deeper. “SWEETIE”
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Rosie, that doesn’t mean divorce. Read the comment sweetie.
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I think that people who has no children never understand this type of complains. I think even if you love you child very much, everybody would hate to be up all night and when we add that she wrote it at 4 am when she was totally exhausted I can say that in that state of mind you don't thing reasonable. You forget that your husband must get up for work in 2 hours, you forgot that you should not to share this on the internet because it can be sort of private thing you only need to releave your no sleep fury. And there was possibility that she could woke up her husband and yell at him, but no, she let him sleep and only wrote a funny poem.
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She's pretty much nailed it. 100% of mums have silently wanted to smack their partners whilst doing a 3am feed and they sleep. Absolutely.
What about those woman still cuddling in bed while waiting for the father to return the baby in fresh diapers? I understand that it might not be common, but fathers who take responsibility exist!
My Hubby and I had it down pat, he did the bum change and I did the feed
I don't think the point of this was that fathers don't take responsibility. It's when you're sleep deprived and someone else gets to sleep while you do the work when it feels frustrating. I actually think it's not that uncommon for fathers to take responsibility.
I know. This one dad doesn’t
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That is why i am frustrated with y’all
No.
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No what?
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Everyone, yall gettin me mad. She was venting, and probably posted it becuase she thought other moms could relate. My Mom probably could. My brother and I are a handful.
Then stop being a handful and help. Seriously, if you are that concerned about mothers help yours more.
Um, i do. You don’t live with me. I help as much as I can. I’m autistic and that doesn’t help. Wisen up buddy.
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So screw off buddy.
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Nailed it
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This was great! But honestly man: really? do you keep sleeping?
They agreed it together.
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Carmen, I agree with you!
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This is a women's job what is she complaining about? Men don't have tits with juice flow out of
Men DO, however, have these things called "hands" that do a pretty good job of holding up a substitute "tit", commonly referred to as a "bottle". THAT is "what she is complaining about".
Don't play with the troll. All you do is keep them interested.
they did have a deal, however, that was quite straightforward. Now, she blames HIM for adhering to what SHE did CONSENT to. Hypocrisy and entitlement much? Dont want a deal, dont make it. Break the deal, face a divorce.
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Ha Aria you get it
dont you have a little girl that you flex on everyone in your profile? goddamn i feel bad for your wife.
Yikes excuse me?
Hey TJler what a cute baby!
TJler, really? I checked you profile. The only pictures you have are of your baby girl. And, from your point of view, you did the EXACT SAME THING as the father in the poem. Maybe you didn’t, but from your comment, it sounds like you did.
So... I don’t agree with you.
Can you please go jump off a bridge already
Bored Phoenix - TJler is just being contentious so he can earn some downvotes. It makes the fella happy. It's probably just his way of venting so that he can be there for his little girl and her mom. Some people react by giving him advice of the deadly variety. Don't let it bother you.
Thank you Liam.
Um.......
Another of these pseudo-lovely public shaming of a pouse. If you really believe publicly criticising your loved-one is a good thing to do, spare us the photos that show the alleged love. If you cannot solve this issue between the two of you, or maybe with the help of close friends or family, you have a major issue anyway. Being told to the whole world how shitty you are on Twitter will surely not get you into the mood to change something for good. And besides, what you are going through has been faced by any parent in the history of mankind. Talking to each other and actively searching for solutions is the way out. And it might be as easy as having the man sleep next to the crib instead of the mother. (Of course, it can be much harder, too.)
Exactly my thoughts. Absolutely unnecessary shaming after agreeing on a deal stating he can sleep and she'll care for the child at night.
Specially because she is on a maternity leave and he is not.
It says in the rest of the article that they had made a deal she would take the night shift due to her long maternity, as he then had to be at work for 10-12 hours teaching 10 year olds. My husband is a teacher so I can understand why the sleep is needed! But reading the poem alone, no one would have any idea! Totally agree with you on this spouse shaming business - sad to post that kind of stuff especially with no context!
yep. Its expected of us men to give 100% everywhere, everytime, no matter what. Its also expected that we sacrifice everything, everytime, just because. Then we get a spouse that cooks up that BS poem above just because she has feelings about the deal she consented to. Should end up in a divorce with her at fault, tbh.
She takes care of the baby all day and all night, and no matter what kind of an agreement they had, exhaustion is exhaustion and sometimes an outlet is needed. She gave it to her husband to read, and after thinking about it, he found it humorous. I doubt she would have made it public without his consent.
Well, if they have a deal and she writes a mocking poem that he finds funny: just perfect. Publicly sharing this sounds as if the "contract" has been cancelled unilaterally.
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SHE WAS TIRED!!!!! GET IT RIGHT!
Childfree and I don't regret it.
Childfree and single. Fuck wasting my time on stupid shit like this. Relationships take too much work and human beings aren't worth it. Especially I.
THIS is why I have a dog and am single!
so the Mom has a long maternity leave, the Dad has to go to work in the mornings and they also had a deal that she would be the one getting up, but sure lets blame all the dads
It was done jokingly and loveingly not meant serious if you read the whole article
Agreed Erin.
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*Sigh*
Classy passive-aggressive jerk outing her husband on social media with pictures as an added bonus. There are better ways to handle these situations.
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I’m out. Y’all frustrating me.
Very passive aggressive. She makes a fair deal with her husband (she is on leave, he teaches 10 hour days, thus she takes night shift by mutual agreement) - and then she stabs him in the back on social media. I'd be pissed if I was him.
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She may have been breastfeeding the baby while writing.
Oh, highly unlikely! It isn't that easy to breast feed!
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SHE WAS TIRED. Besides, he read it and laughed.
If she is so tired why waste time writing crap poetry instead of sleeping.
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Honestly, I think it was more of a joke. It really isn’t something to get mad about.
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Hmmm...... I think i know you Vanilla.......
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Exactly Vanilla. I don’t get why everyone’s so triggered.
This narrative of women complaining about having to look after their own children is getting boring. You don't want to breast feed in the middle of the night then don't have kids it's that simple. If a guy pressures you into it then be strong and say no, it's more often women deciding they want kids not the other way round anyway. Just stop complaining about the choices you made.
Absolutely. It's very well known that sleep will be seriously fragmented and you will feel like a zombie at times. It ends.
Your fine Liam. My Mom is okay as long as i don’t use language i found in here.
That's okay then! 👌 Sensible mom! Spot on with autocorrect - drives me nuts.
EDIT: FOund in here. I hate autocorrect.
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She loves the baby. I am twelve and Mom is always tired. She loves us and takes the best care of Dad, my brother and I. She doesn’t regret anything. She just gets tired and frustrated.
Wow, I forget that not everyone on here is an adult. I'm not sure you should be talking to strangers online but your family are lucky to have such an appreciative child.
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I like to voice my opinions.
You're 12? I'm with anarkzie. EDIT: Don't misunderstand me Bored Phoenix I don't think you're dumb or anything. Just we have our share of nutters on here and a few who use absolutely foul language. I know you'll have heard it all before and I know you don't care about my opinion but I'd be worried about how your mum would feel about it. Mums worry.
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Sorry Liam. #Dontcare
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And... I’m not dumb and don’t fall for crap.
Subject matter aside, it doesn't scan well. I find it hard to read and get the metre right. I know she wrote it at 4am but could have given it a bit of attention before sharing it. Makes me think she can't be that tired if she's writing poetry anyway. This is also a plan they both agreed in advance so why show resentment to all and sundry?
I thought the same about the metre - awkward in places.
It wasn't published dear god it was posted on Facebook and happened to go viral. I love how all the comments defending her are down voted lol way to be positive internet peeps... not like you're authors...
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Uh, she explained above. She was in a bad state of mind & this let her vent. We all feel angry unfairly with our loved ones at some time, and she's smart enough to realize she was just angry in the moment.
I would still have revised it before publishing. The wrong metre can detract from a good poem. Extra beats in a line you were not expecting. Bit like off-key in music.
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I agree! She was tired. It was 4 a.m. Give her a freaking break! JEESE
I became very resentful towards my husband the first two years of our now 12 year old's life. I had PPD, and barely slept because he was colicky. He never had night duty...ever. Not even when I was sick. Thankfully my MIL was awesome and would take him for a few hours so I could nap,shower and have ME time.
I hope he was supportive in other ways! MIL should have given him a kick up the backside. Sorry but I get cross when I read about women struggling with PPD and husbands doing feck all.
He did a lot during the day when he was not working. He knows how I felt about those two years when our son was really small. He's made amends(lol) for it all. He really did not know how bad *I* was then, because I was not very vocal.
Well at least you didn't hold a grudge, Lilium. lol
Blames her husband for her own problem. Typical woman.
As he said he has work to go to and to earn money to support his family.. So why he can't sleep? It would be the same way if she would work and he would be stay at home dad.. Why both of them need to be super tired and sleep deprived.. Of course the would be the moments when he will have to step in and help. But I'm tired of all that "Oh he is not waking up at 2 am to change diapers or he sleeps while I need to wake up 5 times to feed the baby". He does his part too, earning money to make sure his family has all it needs..
When my first child was born my husband helped me every night, I woke up to breastfeed and sometimes it was him to feed the baby with my milk obtained with the breast pump .. most of the time it was him to change the diaper before to put him in the crib. During all this time he continued to work while I was on maternity leave. Helping me in this way has helped me not to fall into postpartum depression and above all a exhaustion by sleep deprivation, to recover first from birth and mastitis. Despite the first challenging year, one day he asked me "why don't we make another baby?". I know that my husband has certainly made a special effort to help me and that you can not ask all the fathers to behave this way, but sometime, just one night a week, the father could offer to change the baby or make him fall asleep again, to allow you to sleep 4 hours in a row instead of 2 at a time .. sometimes just a small gesture is enough to make the mothers understand that even the father is making his best and that after all it is a team work!
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Chris, He could be a little nice....
HE was nice. There isn't anything he did that was unpleasant.
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What about weekends? Or maybe, this might sound crazy, but maybe. He could wake up at least once? Just once.
They had a deal where he would sleep because he has to go and earn money all day and if he doesn't do it very well he could lose his job. If my partner and I had an agreement where they deal with the baby at night and then my partner wrote dreadful, whinging poetry in the middle of the night about not getting enough sleep WHEN THEY SHOULD BE ASLEEP I'd be seriously pissed off.
That's why I hesitate in having children...
Because of sleep? Goodness you can sleep all day with a baby if you have maternity leave. They do nothing but sleep. They don't even make mess.
except when they scream and $h!+ themselves all the time
Oh give me a break. Surely you do not have a baby if you think they "sleep all day." Everything one does with a baby is in 5-20 minute increments.
My advice - dont think about the next few years of motherhood. Think about how you will feel after age 60 with no family
Yeah! Like kids are some sort of insurance from loneliness when old....not. Have you ever talked to elderly people? Kids don't visit until it's time for their inheritance. The elders without kids often have a much more social life with more friends and active hobbies, so they don't have to depend on their relatives visiting.
Really? You have children because you are scared of being alone? How pathetic can you be. People like you are scared of being alone with their own thoughts. Some of us enjoy solitude and silence. Accept it.
I'm 57 and I have no kids and I'm f--king GLAD I have no kids Diane, you dumb cow.
It isn’t like this is inevitable. Normal healthy couples talk and make arrangements that work for them.
Thats one of the main reasons why I wont have kids. I know that at the end it will come to me giving up my carreer and free time to take care of the baby... If my partner wont even clean or do the laundry he cant convince me that he will changhe diapers, wake up at night, do homework, make dinners...
Why do you imply that this is the way it must be? I truly believe that in a partnership you can find a fair share of duties, whatever that individually might be. A baby changes the life a lot, but it can actually change the life a lot for good. Having much less time for yourself, having many more duties and responsibilities, yet be happier than ever? Yes, that IS possible.
@Helena: it absolutely is. However, it is bad advise to make that decision based on what moany parents have to tell.
It's okay to not want/have children. The most important thing is that everyone respects people's decisions
I imply it because it is proven than women do most of the house chores and take care of the majority of child care. I know my partnet and it would be the case for us.
what if you have no partner, Hans? not everyone can handle being a single parent. I know I couldn't.
Sounds like you have a shitty partner.
Let me guess...but you WILL expect him to make apropriate money, AND help in-house, AND support you and the child AND ... (insert list here) ? Do you push objectivelly, equal effort on yourself, in all those areas, as well? If the answer is not an objective "yes", then you are quite a hypocrite. You might not like it if you were in our boots regarding being a parent. Seriously, you wouldnt. Because we men dont even get reproduction related rights, we only have one-sided responsibilities.
No, I expect to worknd earn my money. I expect all the responsabilities to be divided in half. But Europe at least the majority of WORKING women still do most of the house chores and kid raising.
You sound hurt (no sarcasm).
Why do people care so much about their careers? Your career will end one day when you retire and you will be left alone and without a family to look after you. I just don't understand all the drama around having children- it's one of the most natural things in the world.
Careers can be very fulfilling. Some jobs do a lot of good for others - they aren't all spent making money for some bloated capitalist. Just because a person has children doesn't mean they'll be there at the end. It's a selfish reason to procreate.
career pays the bills and keeps a damned roof over your damned head - maybe thats because ? And it covers that stay-at-home-mum's personal expenses, and those can be a plenty. And said SAHM is often PUSHING her partner into MORE work because she just MUUUUST HAVE that vacation next year. And a new CAR, because that guy next door just had one! Maybe thats some of the reasons? Or maybe you expect us men to just fuck over our career, take a hit to earnings, then get divorce dropped by said SAHM because WE DONT EARN AS MUCH AS WE SHOULD?! Get a grip on reality. Seriously do get it.
Well, I studied for 25 years of my life to try to get in my career. I am suposed to trow it all away now just because I am a woman?
"without a family to look after you" one of the most selfish reasons to have akid in the first damn place. Hmmmm let me have a kid only so that I can have someone to take care of me in my old age. Tell that same crap to the old folks whos kids dump them in nursing homes, Im sure at one point they had the same reasoning for having kids.
$h!++ing on the sidewalk is natural too, doesn't mean you should do it.
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As much as I hate to admit it, I am starting to agree Oath. No, kids are not for everyone, and everyone should be respected in their wishes to be child-free ( I personally do not WANT people who do not desire kids to have them), however I have seen my proudly child-free aunt change her mind WAY too late. She was a teacher who worked her way to becoming the Assistant Superintendent of her large, local school district. She was highly paid, nice large home, frequent trips and vacations, very comfortable life. Now? She is 69 years old. No kids, no grandkids, only one sibling. She lives 400 miles away from her only sister (my mother). Her husband passed. She has to come to our house for Christmas (she has nowhere else to go) and other distant relatives homes for other holidays. She has told my mom how lonely she is. Her friends are dying off. THAT is not for me...not so I can live my 30's and 40's "child free"...I would rather have warm family around me during my elder years.
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Oathtaker, you get it.
So he has to work, do the laundry, change diapers, wake up at night, make dinners. And what do you do? Be a cow?
Another reason why I have not and will not ever have children.
Teaching full time (exhausting) to support the family while mom breastfeeds... Let the provider sleep. I think she is just venting.
that venting is enough for a divorce case. He's not her fucking feelings-based punching bag.
Honestly! I'm damn ELEVEN years old and you would think that a grown adult would have read more of it than me. She was TIRED. She didn't really mean it.
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Michal, he laughed at it. yall need to read alittle deeper.
Jammy Tee, shut the hell up. No one is buying that you're 11, nice try though.
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Agreed
So you write one line about how wonderful your partner is and next you write more than 30 lines to totally destroy said partner. I get it. It's funny when you destroy your partner on social media. Outstanding move...
If you're a breastfeeding mum this is quite often what it feels like. My OH always did their fair share but sigh *useless nipples* . It's all temporary though, most babies start sleeping through night at about 6/7 months old. It feels like a lifetime in the moment but it's a short time over your kids childhood.
well, maybe you should NOT do a deal that you WILL do the night work, that you CONSENTED to, and then piss on your partner because he's adhering to said deal?
You're funny, it's a partnership and both parents do their fair share. But everyone has emotions and it's hard not to be a bit jealous of someone that is sleeping peacefully through the night whilst you are feeding baby. And I know I don't speak for all parents but my kids refused bottles which meant there wasn't much of a choice even when dad was happy to do some night feeds. I don't blame him in anyway and he's a great dad
I honestly think she could've handled it in a better way. After all, she was on leave and the dad did have work... so I mean... he'd be passing out on the floor at work if he was the one having to do all this.
Well... I said my terms and conditions. My wife said her terms and conditions. We are cool.
Boobs work while you are asleep to. So the father can place the baby in position while the mother continues to sleep, if the child refuses to take the bottle. Hope to see you soon in this modern and gender equal world, you just need to open your mind to new possibilities instead of complaining about things you actually can change. Or are you one of those people that wants to complain?
Wouldn't that wake the mother up right away?
No, not necessarily. And if it does, she doesn't have to move and can fall back asleep again.
My twins were born prematurely and it was tough for the first 6 months. My husband was a dentist and had to basically cut people's faces open for a living. We definitely had an agreement that he sleepy thru the night when he had to work. I fully understood and yet resented the sleep he got while I dealt with the twins every 2 hours... Thankfully I had help, but I still could easily have written thatn poem!
This is so unnecessary. She stays at home. He probably works hard. He needs a rest too, so his work performance wouldn't suffer. He is supporting family as well?
She is an absolute PSYCHO. Feel bad for the guy. This is not going to end well.
uff putting online in public is the worst thing she could do. I think this would be funny between them and family/friends. When it becomes famous on the internet, thats when your hubby will get enough rocks thrown at him to build a castle!
When my daughter was born she never ever slept at night or at all. My husband could sleep through the night and not hear our daughter. He did shift work 4 on 4 off. I was starting to go insane with the lack of sleep. So I made a deal with the hubby. I would sort out all night and when he was off work come 6am if she woke it was his turn and I would sleep in till 11 or 12 in the afternoon. Worked for us as I got my sleep and house got clean haha. When our son was born he was sleeping through the night from 8 weeks old so that was great. Might add daughter didn’t sleep through till she was 4 years old
What if the wife is a light sleeper and the husband is a sound sleeper. She is going to jump up first no matter what the well intentions of the father may be.
This is adorable! 😄
It goes both ways though, doesn't it? I think this trend of over-sharing is a bit unhealthy, and its really not any kind of revelation that women are the primary caregivers and nurturers of offspring. I think the pitfall is that it could be viewed as resentful and ungracious to complain about the times when its your sacrifices Because both partners make sacrifices, just different kinds. For example, fathers bear most of the burden of financially supporting the family, often without any contribution at all from the wife, which is not just stressful for 6 hours during the night but 24/7 until she goes back to work. Should men be writing poems about the stresses of being the only breadwinner in a relationship? And I wonder if they did, would the poem get the same reception and response as this one, or would it be a bunch of people saying "Well that's your job!" And if so, then same thing here - that's her job. She's the mom, its her role, because the father's role is to earn.
hahahahahahahahahahaha I don't have kids!
My husband changed nappies.......until we left hospital. After that, our daughter's needs were all mine. He's continued that attitude and now she is my best friend and tells me all sorts of stuff she'd never mention to a non-intimate (ie her father).