
‘There’s Nothing Positive About This’: Guy Explains How People Should Not Celebrate ‘Plus Size’ Bodies
What is body positivity actually about? We’ve heard the phrase time and time again, but it can still be confusing what with people continuing to fight over its meaning. One person who’s caused a recent stir on the internet is Taylor, aka TikTok user Nottator_tot2000. In a viral video, the TikToker shared his opinion on what the body positivity movement should be all about instead of what it currently represents. In his opinion, the movement is supposed to be meant for those things that people couldn’t control, like somebody getting burned in a fire, not “a whole bunch of overweight women.”
Taylor’s also expecting a massive backlash for sharing his thoughts. He shared that “the same girls that say ‘body positivity’” are going to see the video and make fun of his [ahem] “just because I said fat isn’t beautiful.” Like you could have guessed, people’s opinions about this point of view were very divided.
Personal trainer, physiotherapist, and the founder of ‘Mes Geresni’ (‘We’re Better’), Paulius Lipskis, gave Bored Panda his take on the body positivity movement, loving ourselves as we are, as well as how to embrace change if we decide that this is what we truly want. You’ll find our full interview with him below.
Taylor shared a viral video where he explained his take on body positivity and how it should be focused on the things that we can’t change, not our weight
Health expert and personal trainer Paulius explained to Bored Panda that body positivity is a very complex subject that depends on the context and each and every individual. The movement (as well as overly obsessing about our health) can be both extremely helpful and potentially harmful, depending on who it is we’re talking about.
“Somebody could potentially use the body positivity movement as an excuse for their unhealthy habits, however, if the movement encourages you to accept and embrace yourself, it’s something that you should strive to follow. It’s also a problem if you view healthy living as something that you’re forced to do. If you’re constantly angry, tired, and you’re low on energy—it’s an issue,” trainer Paulius said.
He reiterated that an honest desire to change can only come from within. You can’t force it. “Usually, our unhealthy habits are a result of constant stress and our behavior that’s meant to protect us from it. If we would have an honest chat with ourselves, we’d clearly see that we’re dissatisfied with ourselves only when we feel that we’re using our bad habits to cover our emotions,” the expert went into detail. “However, if we accept that we’re not perfect, we’re not pressured to change. That’s when you start developing a natural desire and curiosity to find out what the best possible version of you is.”
Eva Wiseman, writing for the Guardian, had an interesting take on body positivity. In her opinion, this movement only increased the pressure and the guilt that people who might be overweight feel. She believes that instead of loving ourselves as we are, we ought to find peace with our bodies.
“While the body positivity movement celebrates all bodies that spill over the waistband of what is currently acceptable, it fails to illuminate the reasons why so many people have such bitter and violent relationships with their bodies to begin with,” she said.
“By skipping those sticky conversations, ones that reach into the offal of politics and families, and the day-to-day existence of being a fat person in the world and instead leaping straight to the friendly hashtag, complete with women detailing their own blessed journeys towards inner beauty, it heaves all responsibility for feeling better about one’s body on to the shoulders of the person within it,” Wiseman writes.
“‘Everybody’s beautiful, and all bodies are perfect!’ said 2019, to a small murmur from those pointing out that the workplace, Tinder, fashion and health professionals disagree. The effect, then, was a feeling of isolation, and a doubling of guilt. Guilt both for living in a body that doesn’t fit and for wanting to change it,” Wiseman explained, suggesting that, instead, we move away from body positivity and toward body neutrality.
You can watch the full TikTok video right over here
@nottator_tot2000##stitch with @lexi.diane go ahead say it’s small ##fyp ##hypocrite ##bodypositivity ##facts ##health♬ original sound – Taylor
“I’m hoping that until the messy little business of restructuring the world in order to find true equality is completed, the message of the next 10 years will be, not to love your body, but instead, find peace with it.”
Nottator_tot2000’s video got more than 2.3 million views, 438k likes, 18.5k comments, and 10.4k reshares on TikTok. Which goes to show that his thoughts reached a lot of people. Some supported him, others criticized him like you could have expected whenever there’s a polarizing topic on the table such as this one.
One of the things that a lot of commenters were dissatisfied with was Taylor stating that “there’s not one disease in the world that prevents you from losing weight or eating healthy.” TikTokers pointed out that there are some rare diseases that do make it difficult to lose weight. However, Taylor countered by saying that ‘difficult’ and ‘challenging’ isn’t the same as ‘impossible.’
In other words, the TikToker’s philosophy is all about effort and dedication. He doesn’t believe that losing weight is easy or that fixing your health is something that happens overnight. In fact, he’s experiencing that first hand. He’s trying to lose weight at the moment.
In Taylor’s opinion, stretch marks and fat rolls don’t automatically make you ‘beautiful’ and he explained that they’re far from the positive things that some people claim they are online.
“You shouldn’t look at this and think, ‘Oh my God, so beautiful,’” Taylor said in the video, criticizing his own body. “There’s nothing positive about this. In fact, it’s negative. It’s hurting my body to be like this. Which is why I’m working out four to five times a week and trying to eat healthy. Cuz I’m not trying to die from a heart attack.”
It might not be up everyone’s alley, but the TikToker was completely honest about his perspective on what the body positivity movement should be about.
In short, he believes that someone’s weight is something that can be changed (however challenging it might be), so being overweight shouldn’t be put in the spotlight online.
Nottator_tot2000 is no stranger to tackling controversial topics head-on, as you can see from his other TikTok videos. Whether you agree or disagree with him, it’s a fact that he’s starting important discussions. And where would we be if we couldn’t discuss important issues? In his spare time, Taylor also streams himself playing video games on Twitch.
Body positivity means you do not feel bad about how you look. At the same time, it does not mean you celebrate being overweight. If you are overweight, don't hate yourself. Try your best to work towards getting a healthier lifestyle. If you have birthmarks or stretch marks or anything that is beyond your control, do not be embarrassed about it. It is a part of who you are and be positive about it.
Exactly. Its about not hating yourself no matter who you are. Partly to normalise natural things like cellulite or stretch marks but also to not bully others for being under or overweight. Imagine being this uneducated and thinking that you only get stretch marks for being fat. As if growing up and pregnancy arent a extremely common cause.
Got stretch marks on my arms from puberty.
totally agreed. Heads up for this person for speaking up and having his own opinion. I also think that body positivity means not feeling bad about you look. The most important thing is not to forget: an overweight person has right to feel good and he/she probably looks great as well. But he/she should also know that their body might not be very healthy. Other than that i also have stretch marks even though i'm athletic and skinny. I have weak connective tissue, that's why. I simply ignore them. They're nothing i feel ashamed of, but i don't feel like flaunting them either :).
This is important. He's projecting his own self hate.
You are absolutely right. But I think that the guy point was that some person have distorted this message, searching to glorified overwheight bodies (at list that's what I see most in social media, even with people being insulted for following a healthier lifestyle and losing some weight). So, one thing is to respect everyone no matter how their body is ( and that' absolutely right), an other thing is to treat invariable physical problem (as scars, stretch marks, amputations...) like obesity. Obesity could be prevented and cured (in the majority of cases) with an healthy lifestyle, and telling people that they are wonderful no matter if they are overweight/obese is dangerous. It's scientifically proved that overweight people die earlier and have high probability of having certain disseases compared to other people. This doesn't mean it is justified to treat obese people with disrespect, but saying that overweight bodies are perfect is dangerous and false.
Reply to Ozacoter: I NEVER said that people should be bullied, If you read my message I specified that EVERYONE have to be respected not matter how their body is. I said that obesity could be prevented by a healthy lifestyle for the majority of people ( I write the majority, not all). I was answering the post, when it's talked about Overweight people. I never glorified underweight body, and also under healthy bodies there can be mental issues like bulimia, but here we were talking about overweight body. And I want to repeat it, if you read my last post I Never say that some body should be bullyed, on the contrary, I specified that everyone have to be treated with respect no matter how their body is. I said that glorified obese or overweight body is dangerous because of the health issues (sure there are health issues even in underweight people, but here we aren't talking about them), esthetics wasn't even considered in my previous post.
In addition to what oz says, stress and thyroid issues play a huge role in how you metabolize. So it's not always JUST a healthy lifestyle.
Is great how judgamental people like you never stopp realising that a lot of overweight people might have problems following diets or exercising. For example I should lose about 10kgs but currently I cannot even walk 15min a day. My calorie consumption is so low that following a strict diet would be below 1200 calories and would be dangerous for me. But for people like you I am just lazy and deserve to be bullied for not looking perfect. Its also funny how people like you never mention underweight people. Being underweight is also very unhealthy but our society glorifies it. If you only care about one side then you dont care about health, you are attacking people solely for esthetics.
Agreed but many people see it as 'its okay to be fat' its not okay it is dangerous ti be overweight. No matter how you put it. Its not about looks its about health. Being overweight shouldnt be normalized and normalized should not be confused with loving yourself.
I think it's also aimed at not shaming others for their imperfect bodies. I am well aware of my aches and pains. How could I not be? So, I do yoga, but that isn't going to fix things overnight. Body positivity is also being positive for others because they are TRYING. And it's a feat.
perfectly worded. I 1000 percent agree
we need more people like you
Sorry but he is an uneducated, ignorant t****r. There are many and I mean MANY people who can’t help their weight. There are health issues, medications, genetics etc that all play a part. And stretch marks, well news flash dickhead, most women get stretch marks when they are pregnant, that is not an unhealthy reason why the skin stretches. And even slim people can get stretch marks, it can vary depending on skin type and again genetics.
I'm 89 pounds and 5'0, and have stretch marks all along my back. You're absolutely correct. Stretch marks aren't an indicator of being overweight because I certainly am not lmao
I'm in the same boat as you. I'm 98 pounds and 5'0, and have stretch marks on my belly, yet I have never been overweight in life. In fact, at some points in my life I have been underweight and told to put weight on. But I still have stretch marks.
I saw a youtube video of a woman who gained 80 lbs in 2 years due to steroids and chronic pain. She said the judgement and shame as a fat person was worse than the actual disease.
Can't agree enough, I lost weight despite being in constant f*****g agony with chronic pain and fatigue, its NOT that easy for everyone, and honestly its so hard to keep the weight off when my medications cause weight gain. It's a vicious cycle. This guy is a f*****g prick.
Question: Is there something we can do not to need medications in the first place?
I have stretch marks on my knees lol. We can't control those. So I agree with you, why being mad at something we can't control at all. He's over reacting to that.... 🙄🙄
sure, noone's fat because they are lazy and cant control themselves...
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I never said no one is overweight or obese because of greed or laziness. The fact is you don’t know the individuals circumstances so don’t judge. There could be things going on that are not their choice. It is between them and their GP, it’s no one else’s business,
This article is great btw
thank you, this is so true.
yep, i have hellacious stretch marks from having ehlers-danlos syndrome, have had since i was a teen
He isn't talking about stretch marks from pregnancy. He's talking about stretch marks from eating until you look like a hippo stuffed with 300lbs of lard
Another ignoramus. He essentially says stretch marks are a choice and news flash not everyone is overweight or obese from overeating. Another thing that he (and you) are wrong about. There ARE diseases, illnesses, disabilities etc that cause weight issues.
He's talking about people who mask their shame about their -choices- that have resulted in a degradation of their health in a veneer of false pride. He's talking about mental health issues that not only lead to such degradation of health but extend to the point of denial. He's talking about group supported delusion that supports and enables this degradation of physical and mental health. And he's talking about all the people who misrepresent legitimate issues, attack messengers based on their own interpretation of the message rather than the message, contributing to the mass delusion and the needlessly poor physical and mental health ensuing and the associated poor quality of life. Who's an ignorant wanker?
You cannot help the one who does not want to help him/herself......that's also true.
What an absolute load of f*****g bullshit. He literally says the body positive movement was actually about things people couldn’t control. Not your stretch marks. News flash, MANY people can’t control their stretch marks. He is essentially shaming people who have stretch marks or are overweight and pretty much calling people who are overweight ugly, when not everyone is overweight by choice or due to inactivity or excessive eating. He also says there is no disease in the world that stops you from losing weight which is 100000% false as there are numerous diseases, disabilities and illnesses that cause weight issues.
"He literally says the body positive movement was actually about things people couldn’t control." Yes. He gave a visual example. Things people can't control. That would include stretch marks in some cases. Are you suggesting that all stretch marks are out of all people's control? Pregnancy. There's a case that it's out of many people's control. But is it politically incorrect to acknowledge that many people's stretch marks are avoidable? Or is it the inverse of politically correct - which is actually correct? You're argument is based on the insinuation that you've made which is that he said "all stretch marks are unavoidable". Full of s**t is an apt description of strawmanning. And here you are being ironic once again. Being full of s**t and ironic both seem to be things you find to be unvoidable.
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Sorry but your reply is the ones who's uneducated and ignorant: meds can only stimulate your appetite or affect your metabolism (which you have in hand) / People with health issues can do some form of exercise and if they eat the amount they actually need they will actually stay slim / Having bad genetics doesn't make you fat it's the calories you consume although it is easier to get fat in this case. As the saying goes you are what you eat. The only thing I can agree on is the stretch marks.
So what you're saying is when I put on 50lb in spite of cycling and or walking up to 10 miles every day and ate exactly the same food as I always had done it was all my fault? Good to know. Good to know it wasn't the PCOS, or the Hashimotos or the f****d up endocrine system. Add to that the then-undiagnosed ADD/ASD,/depression/GAD and the subsequent meds and ongoing sensory issue and you have a recipe for disaster. Well, in the modern world anyway. See thing about us fat bastards is, we're the survivors. In times of famine all you skinny bitches fade away and die, we lose weight much more slowly even under famine conditions and remain alive and fertile. The fact that you're here at all means that at some point you had some fat bastard ancestors. Not sorry in the slightest.
I am afraid you are partly right but also wrong. Genetics can play a major role, go check any reliable credible source if you don’t believe me. And news flash meds can do other things to cause weight gain like water retention, change the way how your body stores fats, sugars and nutrients. And I didn’t just say meds, I also said health issues. I have a few things that contribute to my obesity. My antidepressants, many antidepressants cause weight gain and make it harder to lose it. My contraception, same explanation as the anti depressants,. I have a restricted diet due to IBS, oral allergy syndrome, lactose intolerance and sensory issues. Genetics, majority of my family are either overweight or obese. I have mobility issues (hip deformities, unstable cuboid, plantar fasciitis, osteopoikilosis, pelvic arthritis) and yes some of those are weight related but not all. But they restrict my exercise and I have an eating OCED, it is a genuine disorder just like anorexia.
This has actually been proven to be wrong. Medical journals that actually research nutrition and obesity have found many links to several factors that reduce someone's ability to lose weight or maintain a lower weight. Several diseases, and compounding factors can make it impossible to lose weight. It is not all about energy in and energy out. I am on a strict diet due to medical conditions that prohibit my ability to digest food. I eat about 1000 calories a day, if I can, and it is low-fat, low fiber, low sugar and grain free. I walk a minimum of five miles a day. I have been doing this for years, and I gain weight. Spent years fighting with my doctors and getting told I was probably underestimating my consumption. Until my partner logged my diet for a month, and my exercise, and came with me to my appointment. And doctors, most of them only have 20-25 hours total nutrition education. Not enough.
Try and be on steroids as long term meds for an illness (like cancer, lupus, MS and many others): not only you gain weight, but you also gain what we call "the moon face". No explanation needed, is there?
That is pathetically wrong. A lot of people cannot do any exercise, like me. A diet to lose weight would need to be so low on calories 1000 or lower than it would be unhealthy and dangerous.
The science is not with you on this one. Maybe if you're going to spout this sort of thing you should check your facts.
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Hi! I just want to start off by saying that I take meds that slow my metabolism and my family also has a history of obesity. There is NO REASON to be obese other than your own faults. Yes, certain medications and genetics can cause you to be chubby or carry weight differently but there is no excuse to be so fat it's detrimental to your health. The only thing that causes obesity is the obese person's laziness and bad habits
This is incredibly incorrect. Hypothyroidism and Hashimoto's disease...look them up...can most certainly cause obesity and has nothing to do with how much a person eats or activity levels. Please don't speak on issues you clearly are not very educated about.
Well, I'm sure glad you're some interweb randomer and not a medical professional spouting this nonsense. Go check out some real science.
Errrr, wrong. Might want to check your facts. There are many health issues that cause weight gain and nothing to do with laziness or greediness.
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It's absolutely not true that some people can't lose weight. It's true that for many people trying to lose weight is hard, as to lose weight you essentially have restrict you calories and go hungary. The hard part about losing weight is psychological, as it's the sensation of hunger that people struggle with. Regardless of genetics or any other factors, everyone will lose weight if they eat less that their base metabolic rate. People are not overweight because they are lazy or greedy, but because people evolved from hunter gathers species. The traits which cause obesity in the modern day would have ensured survival in the past.
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I am pretty sure about thaz he did not mean those people who have health issues, medications, etc.
He literally said there is no disease in the world that prevents you from losing weight, which is extremely false. And so what those people aren’t allowed to have body positivity?
Even if a person needs to lose weight, they should get to feel ok while they do so. It must be easier to work out and take care of yourself if you are happy and don't feel like the whole world is judging you?
As someone who is losing weight for medical reasons, I concur. You know what would have made that conversation with the doctor easier? If the world wasn’t full of people who act like the mistakes I made with my health are worthy of jeering. I absolutely loathe that particular breed of weight lossers who think their lack of self esteem should be transitive to every other overweight person in the world. I don’t know any other fat person’s test results except my own, so I just keep working on my own stuff and voting for parties that will push Jacinda to fund our public healthcare system better so that those who have health problems can easily get advice from a doctor, not some self-hating t****r on the internet.
Question: Is there a way to avoid the health problems before we develop them???? Think about it.
If you make yourself feel good about being fat, then you won't bother losing the weight because "you're perfect!"
This not true at all. The more you are shamed, bullied etc about your weight, the worse you feel and the more likely your eating habits will get worse and you end up gaining more weight. For some people it may work that way but sadly it is not the case for many.
Agree with Steve. - "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire (1694 - 1778) French writer
Body positivity means you do not feel bad about how you look. At the same time, it does not mean you celebrate being overweight. If you are overweight, don't hate yourself. Try your best to work towards getting a healthier lifestyle. If you have birthmarks or stretch marks or anything that is beyond your control, do not be embarrassed about it. It is a part of who you are and be positive about it.
Exactly. Its about not hating yourself no matter who you are. Partly to normalise natural things like cellulite or stretch marks but also to not bully others for being under or overweight. Imagine being this uneducated and thinking that you only get stretch marks for being fat. As if growing up and pregnancy arent a extremely common cause.
Got stretch marks on my arms from puberty.
totally agreed. Heads up for this person for speaking up and having his own opinion. I also think that body positivity means not feeling bad about you look. The most important thing is not to forget: an overweight person has right to feel good and he/she probably looks great as well. But he/she should also know that their body might not be very healthy. Other than that i also have stretch marks even though i'm athletic and skinny. I have weak connective tissue, that's why. I simply ignore them. They're nothing i feel ashamed of, but i don't feel like flaunting them either :).
This is important. He's projecting his own self hate.
You are absolutely right. But I think that the guy point was that some person have distorted this message, searching to glorified overwheight bodies (at list that's what I see most in social media, even with people being insulted for following a healthier lifestyle and losing some weight). So, one thing is to respect everyone no matter how their body is ( and that' absolutely right), an other thing is to treat invariable physical problem (as scars, stretch marks, amputations...) like obesity. Obesity could be prevented and cured (in the majority of cases) with an healthy lifestyle, and telling people that they are wonderful no matter if they are overweight/obese is dangerous. It's scientifically proved that overweight people die earlier and have high probability of having certain disseases compared to other people. This doesn't mean it is justified to treat obese people with disrespect, but saying that overweight bodies are perfect is dangerous and false.
Reply to Ozacoter: I NEVER said that people should be bullied, If you read my message I specified that EVERYONE have to be respected not matter how their body is. I said that obesity could be prevented by a healthy lifestyle for the majority of people ( I write the majority, not all). I was answering the post, when it's talked about Overweight people. I never glorified underweight body, and also under healthy bodies there can be mental issues like bulimia, but here we were talking about overweight body. And I want to repeat it, if you read my last post I Never say that some body should be bullyed, on the contrary, I specified that everyone have to be treated with respect no matter how their body is. I said that glorified obese or overweight body is dangerous because of the health issues (sure there are health issues even in underweight people, but here we aren't talking about them), esthetics wasn't even considered in my previous post.
In addition to what oz says, stress and thyroid issues play a huge role in how you metabolize. So it's not always JUST a healthy lifestyle.
Is great how judgamental people like you never stopp realising that a lot of overweight people might have problems following diets or exercising. For example I should lose about 10kgs but currently I cannot even walk 15min a day. My calorie consumption is so low that following a strict diet would be below 1200 calories and would be dangerous for me. But for people like you I am just lazy and deserve to be bullied for not looking perfect. Its also funny how people like you never mention underweight people. Being underweight is also very unhealthy but our society glorifies it. If you only care about one side then you dont care about health, you are attacking people solely for esthetics.
Agreed but many people see it as 'its okay to be fat' its not okay it is dangerous ti be overweight. No matter how you put it. Its not about looks its about health. Being overweight shouldnt be normalized and normalized should not be confused with loving yourself.
I think it's also aimed at not shaming others for their imperfect bodies. I am well aware of my aches and pains. How could I not be? So, I do yoga, but that isn't going to fix things overnight. Body positivity is also being positive for others because they are TRYING. And it's a feat.
perfectly worded. I 1000 percent agree
we need more people like you
Sorry but he is an uneducated, ignorant t****r. There are many and I mean MANY people who can’t help their weight. There are health issues, medications, genetics etc that all play a part. And stretch marks, well news flash dickhead, most women get stretch marks when they are pregnant, that is not an unhealthy reason why the skin stretches. And even slim people can get stretch marks, it can vary depending on skin type and again genetics.
I'm 89 pounds and 5'0, and have stretch marks all along my back. You're absolutely correct. Stretch marks aren't an indicator of being overweight because I certainly am not lmao
I'm in the same boat as you. I'm 98 pounds and 5'0, and have stretch marks on my belly, yet I have never been overweight in life. In fact, at some points in my life I have been underweight and told to put weight on. But I still have stretch marks.
I saw a youtube video of a woman who gained 80 lbs in 2 years due to steroids and chronic pain. She said the judgement and shame as a fat person was worse than the actual disease.
Can't agree enough, I lost weight despite being in constant f*****g agony with chronic pain and fatigue, its NOT that easy for everyone, and honestly its so hard to keep the weight off when my medications cause weight gain. It's a vicious cycle. This guy is a f*****g prick.
Question: Is there something we can do not to need medications in the first place?
I have stretch marks on my knees lol. We can't control those. So I agree with you, why being mad at something we can't control at all. He's over reacting to that.... 🙄🙄
sure, noone's fat because they are lazy and cant control themselves...
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I never said no one is overweight or obese because of greed or laziness. The fact is you don’t know the individuals circumstances so don’t judge. There could be things going on that are not their choice. It is between them and their GP, it’s no one else’s business,
This article is great btw
thank you, this is so true.
yep, i have hellacious stretch marks from having ehlers-danlos syndrome, have had since i was a teen
He isn't talking about stretch marks from pregnancy. He's talking about stretch marks from eating until you look like a hippo stuffed with 300lbs of lard
Another ignoramus. He essentially says stretch marks are a choice and news flash not everyone is overweight or obese from overeating. Another thing that he (and you) are wrong about. There ARE diseases, illnesses, disabilities etc that cause weight issues.
He's talking about people who mask their shame about their -choices- that have resulted in a degradation of their health in a veneer of false pride. He's talking about mental health issues that not only lead to such degradation of health but extend to the point of denial. He's talking about group supported delusion that supports and enables this degradation of physical and mental health. And he's talking about all the people who misrepresent legitimate issues, attack messengers based on their own interpretation of the message rather than the message, contributing to the mass delusion and the needlessly poor physical and mental health ensuing and the associated poor quality of life. Who's an ignorant wanker?
You cannot help the one who does not want to help him/herself......that's also true.
What an absolute load of f*****g bullshit. He literally says the body positive movement was actually about things people couldn’t control. Not your stretch marks. News flash, MANY people can’t control their stretch marks. He is essentially shaming people who have stretch marks or are overweight and pretty much calling people who are overweight ugly, when not everyone is overweight by choice or due to inactivity or excessive eating. He also says there is no disease in the world that stops you from losing weight which is 100000% false as there are numerous diseases, disabilities and illnesses that cause weight issues.
"He literally says the body positive movement was actually about things people couldn’t control." Yes. He gave a visual example. Things people can't control. That would include stretch marks in some cases. Are you suggesting that all stretch marks are out of all people's control? Pregnancy. There's a case that it's out of many people's control. But is it politically incorrect to acknowledge that many people's stretch marks are avoidable? Or is it the inverse of politically correct - which is actually correct? You're argument is based on the insinuation that you've made which is that he said "all stretch marks are unavoidable". Full of s**t is an apt description of strawmanning. And here you are being ironic once again. Being full of s**t and ironic both seem to be things you find to be unvoidable.
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Sorry but your reply is the ones who's uneducated and ignorant: meds can only stimulate your appetite or affect your metabolism (which you have in hand) / People with health issues can do some form of exercise and if they eat the amount they actually need they will actually stay slim / Having bad genetics doesn't make you fat it's the calories you consume although it is easier to get fat in this case. As the saying goes you are what you eat. The only thing I can agree on is the stretch marks.
So what you're saying is when I put on 50lb in spite of cycling and or walking up to 10 miles every day and ate exactly the same food as I always had done it was all my fault? Good to know. Good to know it wasn't the PCOS, or the Hashimotos or the f****d up endocrine system. Add to that the then-undiagnosed ADD/ASD,/depression/GAD and the subsequent meds and ongoing sensory issue and you have a recipe for disaster. Well, in the modern world anyway. See thing about us fat bastards is, we're the survivors. In times of famine all you skinny bitches fade away and die, we lose weight much more slowly even under famine conditions and remain alive and fertile. The fact that you're here at all means that at some point you had some fat bastard ancestors. Not sorry in the slightest.
I am afraid you are partly right but also wrong. Genetics can play a major role, go check any reliable credible source if you don’t believe me. And news flash meds can do other things to cause weight gain like water retention, change the way how your body stores fats, sugars and nutrients. And I didn’t just say meds, I also said health issues. I have a few things that contribute to my obesity. My antidepressants, many antidepressants cause weight gain and make it harder to lose it. My contraception, same explanation as the anti depressants,. I have a restricted diet due to IBS, oral allergy syndrome, lactose intolerance and sensory issues. Genetics, majority of my family are either overweight or obese. I have mobility issues (hip deformities, unstable cuboid, plantar fasciitis, osteopoikilosis, pelvic arthritis) and yes some of those are weight related but not all. But they restrict my exercise and I have an eating OCED, it is a genuine disorder just like anorexia.
This has actually been proven to be wrong. Medical journals that actually research nutrition and obesity have found many links to several factors that reduce someone's ability to lose weight or maintain a lower weight. Several diseases, and compounding factors can make it impossible to lose weight. It is not all about energy in and energy out. I am on a strict diet due to medical conditions that prohibit my ability to digest food. I eat about 1000 calories a day, if I can, and it is low-fat, low fiber, low sugar and grain free. I walk a minimum of five miles a day. I have been doing this for years, and I gain weight. Spent years fighting with my doctors and getting told I was probably underestimating my consumption. Until my partner logged my diet for a month, and my exercise, and came with me to my appointment. And doctors, most of them only have 20-25 hours total nutrition education. Not enough.
Try and be on steroids as long term meds for an illness (like cancer, lupus, MS and many others): not only you gain weight, but you also gain what we call "the moon face". No explanation needed, is there?
That is pathetically wrong. A lot of people cannot do any exercise, like me. A diet to lose weight would need to be so low on calories 1000 or lower than it would be unhealthy and dangerous.
The science is not with you on this one. Maybe if you're going to spout this sort of thing you should check your facts.
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Hi! I just want to start off by saying that I take meds that slow my metabolism and my family also has a history of obesity. There is NO REASON to be obese other than your own faults. Yes, certain medications and genetics can cause you to be chubby or carry weight differently but there is no excuse to be so fat it's detrimental to your health. The only thing that causes obesity is the obese person's laziness and bad habits
This is incredibly incorrect. Hypothyroidism and Hashimoto's disease...look them up...can most certainly cause obesity and has nothing to do with how much a person eats or activity levels. Please don't speak on issues you clearly are not very educated about.
Well, I'm sure glad you're some interweb randomer and not a medical professional spouting this nonsense. Go check out some real science.
Errrr, wrong. Might want to check your facts. There are many health issues that cause weight gain and nothing to do with laziness or greediness.
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It's absolutely not true that some people can't lose weight. It's true that for many people trying to lose weight is hard, as to lose weight you essentially have restrict you calories and go hungary. The hard part about losing weight is psychological, as it's the sensation of hunger that people struggle with. Regardless of genetics or any other factors, everyone will lose weight if they eat less that their base metabolic rate. People are not overweight because they are lazy or greedy, but because people evolved from hunter gathers species. The traits which cause obesity in the modern day would have ensured survival in the past.
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I am pretty sure about thaz he did not mean those people who have health issues, medications, etc.
He literally said there is no disease in the world that prevents you from losing weight, which is extremely false. And so what those people aren’t allowed to have body positivity?
Even if a person needs to lose weight, they should get to feel ok while they do so. It must be easier to work out and take care of yourself if you are happy and don't feel like the whole world is judging you?
As someone who is losing weight for medical reasons, I concur. You know what would have made that conversation with the doctor easier? If the world wasn’t full of people who act like the mistakes I made with my health are worthy of jeering. I absolutely loathe that particular breed of weight lossers who think their lack of self esteem should be transitive to every other overweight person in the world. I don’t know any other fat person’s test results except my own, so I just keep working on my own stuff and voting for parties that will push Jacinda to fund our public healthcare system better so that those who have health problems can easily get advice from a doctor, not some self-hating t****r on the internet.
Question: Is there a way to avoid the health problems before we develop them???? Think about it.
If you make yourself feel good about being fat, then you won't bother losing the weight because "you're perfect!"
This not true at all. The more you are shamed, bullied etc about your weight, the worse you feel and the more likely your eating habits will get worse and you end up gaining more weight. For some people it may work that way but sadly it is not the case for many.
Agree with Steve. - "It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire (1694 - 1778) French writer