“I Hate It When…”: 30 Of The Worst Literature Tropes And Stock Characters Our Community Can’t Stand
If you like reading, you might also have a list of books that you wish were never written, to put it mildly. As a reader, I got curious about what exactly turns people away from a book. Whether it's the storyline or characters, there has to be something else that accompanies the poor writing.
Some time ago, I asked our community what their least favorite literature tropes and stock characters were and our pandas had a lot to share! Scroll down for the answers. What are your least favorite clichés in books?
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Sarcastic bad boy that has never loved before, has a troubled past, and hates everyone. Why the hell should the loner, unpopular girl (who usually likes to draw or read because "I'm not like other girls") be any different? But nope, he teases her, makes her think he hates her, then goes and kisses her after saving her life.
Yes. I see that a lot in high school American romances, and is annoying as heck. Though it does give me a little hope ;-;
You don't deserve someone who mocks you. You deserve so much better.
Load More Replies...Broken Angel, an eighties movie call Heathers is a crushing takedown of this whole trope, and a lot of other teen flick tropes. Go check it out!
heathers lmao JD is the epitome of bad boy at the beginning but then like ... "your JD pokemon evolved into a psychopath!" you know?
Load More Replies...Ugh. I have seen so many girls go for the bad boys because they’re exciting. Well, bad boys generally make pisspoor husbands and fathers. Date them while you’re young, if that’s what you’re into—-making sure they’re not also violent—-but never ever EVER marry them. The girls I knew who did really regretted it, and their second husbands were always way more boring BUT way way safer, more secure, and just better quality guys.
Heathers is a beautiful and crushing takedown of this whole trope
Load More Replies...I know it's a terrible cliché, but I'm such a sucker for this trope. I love a good Herondale.
A Herondale is the one exception lol
Load More Replies...Female characters who are competent, powerful, and awesome that inexplicably end up with the mediocre dude main character. Did they discover shared interests or chemistry? Did circumstances forge an unbreakable bond between them? Nah, he wanted her. So now she’s into him. Too much work to justify it, she’s a prize for him stumbling through the plot.
The flip side of "all nerdy and mediocre guys deserve hot chicks with little effort" trope.
Or those same female characters making really poor and potentially career-ending decisions to sleep with an employee. Or any strong women who just fall in bed with really wrong men, especially with no established context of why they would do something stupid like that. It’s just not how such a woman would actually behave. Even now, it’s hard enough for a woman to rise to the top of her profession. Even harder for her to stay there. Why TF would she take such a counterintuitive risk?
I absolutely hate the "woman as a reward" trope! He did a good deed, he saved her life, saves the world, saves a puppy he said something nice to someone once, he loves cats...he gets a girl as a prize! Although this also sometimes gets done with guys who do actively harmful sht to a woman, like in the movie Passengers!
This trope among others though extensively analyzed and extended into all sorts of stories, despite the haranguing, really is not about the conditions that can be changed every time. The tropes are really about the archetype, which proves the reality or cyclical mythology, despite the flaws that may be perceived. Calling tropes archetype or mythology is really seeing them as a history which is eligible to more variations than are imagined and that create an impact in many other ways that cannot be conveyed by being called "stock," "cliched," or "unpopular" by a jaded audience driven by cynicism.
Funny thing is: This seems to happen in real life quite often, too. At least from what I have been observing.
Absolutely not. Annabeth and Percy had awesome chemistry throughout the entire series and Percy was in NO way a mediocre character. Also, they went through SO much together, they were literally made for each other.,
Load More Replies...Gale matched Katniss' badassery step by step. But no, he was to go rogue and to lose to the boy next door, who, quite frankly, would've died multiple times without Katniss.
Load More Replies...“A woman arrives at her place of employment; Because reasons, she’s suddenly working with a new Man Employee. Man Employee is actively superior, dismissive, and occasionally starts to mansplain even though she worked there first, because obviously she’s only a woman. Every fiber of her being despises Man Employees, as it should, for he’s an a**h***. Yet something inside her, somehow not a fiber of her being, knows that she will learn to desire this man because that’s how being female works.”
Even me a man find things like this unbearable. I mean how the hell does the woman fall in love with an arsehole like that?
Load More Replies...Reminds me of movies in the late 50s, early 60s where there were a lot of plotlines where basically the male lead would assault his romantic interest and she would fall limply into his arms and enjoy it, because we all knew then that when women said "no I don't want you" they really meant "come chase me". I seriously can't stand to watch most movies made during that era because they're so despicably sexist.
Yeah you can tell when things are written by men for women to say or do with no female input at all.
To quote Seth McFarlane: "For the next 90 minutes, I'll show you how all your problems can be solved by my p***is."
I really wanted to smash this person's head open once they said that abomination of a word. (mansplaining) Whoever invented this r******d word and decided it was a good idea for it to exist deserves to be f*****g shot.
Yeah, in the movies (unlike in the real world) women don't ever have a justifiable dislike of any man! Their dislike is always a cover for their deep feelings of desire.
oh, it's not like the woman shouldn't be with the stupid, mansplaining employee! by all means, let them then go through an awful relationship! /s
Your comment could've been a thousand times better if it didn't involve that stupid misandrist word.
Load More Replies...Giving characters a sudden new field of expertise based on some tenuous connection. "My uncle's neighbor's dog's trainer's friend's mom was an auto mechanic, so I think I can to rebuild Optimus Prime."
The "my dad was a X so I am an expert in the field".My father is a doctor. Dont ask me to operate on you.
My father is an electrician. I can't even repair an electric outlet let alone a radio or the like.
Load More Replies..."I wrote a program once, so let me build a super computer from bits of garbage and hack the pentagon."
All media have a big problem with convenient characters who possess skills that are ludicrous. Some character "was in the Army" so somehow they know how to operate every weapon and fly or operate every single military vehicle, and know every procedure in detail used by every command and military in the world. Whereas IRL they might know how to fix a certain vehicle's AC system because they worked in the motorpool, or know how to fill out a particular form because they worked in administration.
“I’ve spent my entire career in the military calculating how many paper clips the local administration may need annually, so just you hand me the controls of this here Black Hawk attack helicopter and don’t worry!”
Load More Replies...Or finding out their real parent(s) were ______ , then gaining mastery in ________. Then ending with characters fulfilling some birthright b.s., prophecy, or whatever.
"my dad is a doctor! therefore, I can take out your ruptured appendix! let me just get the butcher knife and rubbing alcohol..."
If you are a Engineer, you can fix absolutely everything. - Looking at you Prison Break
When the character that is supposed to be ugly turns beautiful when they realize that beauty is on the inside.
Yes. Why can't we just have an 'ugly' character stay 'ugly' and be happy that way?
And when ugly girl = girl with glasses, braces and no make up. Then voila! Off come the braces and the glasses, on goes the make up and suddenly she's apparently gorgeous.
Remember the lesson of the Ugly Duckling. It doesn't matter if you are physically unnatractive now, so long as you become physically attractive after puberty.
That absolutely is not the lesson taught be the Ugly Duckling story.
Load More Replies...No. No they are not. Take this from someone who was sexually abused throughout her entire adolescence.
Load More Replies...Characters who are hideous in books looking real fine in the movie version, "Ready Player One" and "Mortal Engines" being two that immediately spring to mind. Oh, and Fiona in Shrek, I think she looked more attractive in her Ogre form.
Yeah, wade in the books was totally different from movie wade
Load More Replies...Probably "Teenage girl who spouts that she's very unattractive but then describes her flowing blonde hair and blue eyes while gazing forlornly into a mirror before getting ready for school"
According to "the movies" she just has to take off her glasses, and re-style her hair. Never mind that she was a stunningly beautiful woman to begin with.
"Re-style" = Straighten. (I'm looking at you, Princess Diaries)
Load More Replies...You can have blond hair & blue eyes & still be unattractive, though...
They always have clear skin too. Not enough pimples in these dramas. Or chicken pox scars
Or scars in their eyebrow from when they knocked their head on a coffee table as an infant
Load More Replies...honestly, i hated this trope too but then i realised that it's not about how they physically look but the symbolising nature that they gain confidence in their own looks because it's a fact, people look way more attractive when they're confident than otherwise. it makes sense
Hair color and eye color does not determine attractiveness so I really don't understand what you're getting at. You can have ANY hair color or eye color and still have an "unattractive" looking face and body. And not all people with blonde hair have blue or even light colored eyes.
Blonde hair doesn't make you attractive tf. What does hair color have to do with attractiveness?
Autistic characters almost always being white, cisgender males that are savants and have a special interest in trains.
As a Black woman on the spectrum, I fkn hate trains!
Load More Replies...Either that or they're completely nonverbal/only say things relevant to the plot, can't make eye contact or do anything for themselves. Zero sense of agency or personality outside of being "the autistic character", and just a plot device. I swear, it's always Sheldon Cooper or Sia's Music (The movie, not the music itself). It's mind blowing that in 2022, people still can't grasp the concept of autistic people having more than 2 personalities.
My son is a cyst white boy and doesn't give a flying s**t about trains, video games and the Gilmore girls however are an absolute favourite over here.
Recently found a book for kids called Spark of Light. Its about a girl who is Autistic, best part is one of her sisters is too. Actually written by a neurodivergent author so hopefully this trope is changing
Correcting myself on the title, it's A Kind of Spark https://www.amazon.com/Kind-Spark-Elle-McNicoll-ebook/dp/B08BMVLNMQ/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3LXS5BFK7E9VH&keywords=a+kind+of+spark&qid=1653584979&sprefix=a+kind+of+spark%2Caps%2C466&sr=8-1
Load More Replies...I have a character with mild autism. She dislikes people and noise. She speaks very directly. She is deeply fascinated with fairies, cryptids, and mythical folklore. She has a wild imagination and sees a strange beauty in everything. Yet she is not once labeled as "autistic." She is a whole lot more than that word, and I want readers to see that. And yes, she is partly based off myself.
She sees a strange beauty in everything but dislikes people? Does she see a strange beauty in everything except people?
Load More Replies...I don’t like the “Pick-me” girl type/masculine tomboyish main character. Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s great to have tomboy characters and stereotypically masculine women, however, I don’t appreciate the idea that a woman has to be masculine to be considered strong. I don’t like that a stereotypically strong woman has to have the traits of a man or be “different from other girls” in order to be taken seriously or recognized as anything other than dumb, pretty, and weak. I think it fuels internalized misogyny and only further pushes the idea that anything feminine is wrong and weak while masculine is tough and strong.
i am super feminine, like 10/10 girly girl, pleated skirts and all. could i roast you to tears or make you really guilty though? probably! have i tromped through mud in sneakers on multiple mile hikes? heck yeah!
Prob true, there are people from thousands of walks of life
Load More Replies...I hate the phrase "tomboy" because a girl shouldn't need a label for being sporty/not girly, we should just be judged on who we are because of who we are and what we like
Ironically this trope is often used by self-called "feminists" (they are not) through out all media - See "Masters of the Universe" on Netflix or "The Last of us 2". Strong women need to be as manly as possible to not appear as weak in the eyes of such writers, implying that femimine women can't be strong
I think it’s a mistake to attach gender to traits such as “strong” and “weak” because both males and females have many examples of both. It’s better to more closely define those character traits to say what makes someone “strong”. For example someone with an introvert personality might come across as “weak” but possessing inner strength. “Strong” is often associated with another trait : “aggressiveness” but an aggressive person is not always “strong”.
This is where shows like Buffy and more recently Netflix's Sabrina reboot are so good, those girls look like ordinary schoolgirls but are hard as nails deep down.
Yes! And Luisa for Encanto, although she's muscled because -heavy lifting- she remains feminine, and Monica from friends, throughout the series they say several times how strong she is physically, a thing you wouldn't normally imagine from her figure
Load More Replies...I’m a girly girl but I love drawing mutant monsters and I think dinosaurs are cool.
Omg this is exactly what I have always thought. Its so annoying as theyre actually trying to be "feminist" yet are actually being the opposite by making out in order for a female to be strong she's got to be all tough and aggressive and masculine, being ultimately very ironic. Not only is is this anti feminist because of like you say anything feminine is wrong and weak while masculine is tough and strong but it's also making out that girls have got to be a certain way to be considered "strong" which is just so wrong, like its a one size fits all which isnt true of course.
I love wearing dresses, doing makeup, painting my nails, watching chick flicks, drawing, reading. Can I beat you in a sparring contest? Yes. Can I psychologically manipulate your abusive parents into becoming semi-decent people? Yes. Can I hike 5 miles in the rain? Been there, done that, got the cold. Can I make a beautiful wood art piece? Yes! People who like 'masculine' things can be delicate and emotional. People who like 'feminine' things can be tough and protective. How you dress is just that, the clothes on your body. Nothing else. You are who you are, and you like what you like.
Women in peril. There is an entire genre of books (and movies) that rely on women being in danger and needing to be saved, either by themselves or by someone else, but nevertheless, they are in peril. The Girl on the Train, the Good Girl, All the Missing Girls, any Ruth Ware book...I could go on. I used to read them on the beach or buy them at airports but I can't stand them anymore!
I totally get the annoyance at the "Woman needs to be saved by a man" trope. But surely "Protagonist is in peril" is a necessary part of any action/adventure story?
Agreed. Not everybody can be a hidden badass or competent in a situation based on their backgrounds.
Load More Replies...Anything by Natasha Preston. The plots are usually compelling, but the main character is usually a teenage girl who is just...well...a complete idiot. Like the charge-headfirst-into-the-dark-basement-where-the-killer-is-hiding kind of idiot.
A few additions to this particular trope, is the "Black woman can endure lots of pain" cliche. Where Black women are shown being strong by enduring lots of physical or emotional pain! They're definitely in distress but there is never the intimation that anyone is coming to save them. Another side trope is the "Delicate Asian woman enduring emotional pain" also called the Madame Butterfly trope. They don't get to be saved either. In fact, they usually commit suicide to escape their distress. (There's a stupid trope for every woc.)
I was sharing a book I wrote with a friend who was bored in the hospital, and she remarked on the fact that the male hero ends up needing to be rescued twice! Both times by a woman, in fact.
Rebranded Damsel in Distress was Woman in refrigerator. I mean she didn't even have to be alive to activate 'Rescue man'. Which is more than a trope. It's a muscular role model that celebrates a masculinity that is entirely bodily, utterly active, morally true and a badass to boot. And dependent on having a female that's going to be grateful for her man, and repeat as much. Hard thing for young men to live up to. No wonder masculinity gets so disturbed. Serious this is Hollywood b******t fed into homes via the screen.
The wise cracking nine-year-old kid who is "old for their years" and calls out the adults in situations they should have no experience with or input on. "We need to move again." "You said this was the last time!" "Yes, but things have changed." "You're a liar. I guess THAT didn't change." Just soooo annoying.
They’re so annoying! No kid cares or talks like that to their parents unless they want their a** beaten! Wtf?! And it’s often above their ‘intelligence level’ not every kid is going to argue the implications of their parents’ actions like that and they literally do not care. at least, I never did.
Yeah, I would have been upset we were moving again, and probably said so, but I would never have called my parent a liar to their face (or even behind their back.)
Load More Replies...How about all plots depending on the kid characters being the only ones in the world with a remotely human IQ and eyes and ears, and the adults are all drooling vegetables who are also deaf and blind. That was one reason I don't like Steven Spielberg as much as most people - he used idiotic tropes like that all the damned time.
Leia from Obi-Wan Kenobi... I did not like her character very much- and she was only ten.
What's so wrong about having a mature and smart kid? I prefer those over the typical annoying bratty kids who scream all the time.
When I was nine, I was discussing politics with my parents and rolling around in mud. Kids can be profoundly smart and wise, just make sure that it balances out with a healthy dose of being a kid.
I just saw this trope in the Horror movie Itsy Bitsy about a killer spider!
This has already been said MANY times, but it is REALLY annoying. The gay BFF. Sure, I have a gay bestie, but it's not the friendship itself, is the girlishness of how the person or character acts. Or how someone expects them to act IRL. It's just, really freaking annoying
Indeed. We need to see all people the same regarding sexual preference. My best friend is gay but i dont have "a gay best friend". I have a great friend that coincidentally likes men.
I have a gay best friend- but the majority of my friends are gay. and by gay I mean bi.
Load More Replies...I really like erick from sex education just because he is a great friend and such a personality and breaks the gbff cliche in so many ways.
How come the male characters never have a gay girl best friend who helps them with their life advice and style?
It's often so the female protagonist can have an "unthreatening" male friend who won't try to get into her pants. Because if her male friend is straight, that means sooner or later they totally have to fall in wuv or have sex, or both. They can't just stay friends. Bah!
And it's always a gay MALE for some reason. I'd love to see one where it's a main male character with a close lesbian bestie.
I loved in Mean Girls that the character of Damien just existed in their world and they didn't make a joke out of him.
The "gay bff" doesn't exist in my very gay experience- I have the very gay friend group and the token straight friend. It's great lol
Quirky girl in her thirties. Likes to read and has a cat. Had a bad break up and now doesn’t trust love. Will probably get over it by the next nice man she meets!
See I would love to write a book that was like this but instead of the whole love crisis it was just the diary of a normal twenty-something that own a cat and loves to read and garden
Dammit I knew there was a reason for this c**p. I got dogs instead of cats so that shifted things off course. Too late now. Guess I should see what I should do for my 40's so I don't screw it up again
When one is in one’s thirties, one is no longer a “girl”. At that age one has earned right to be defined as a woman, reading interest and cats or no.
I think that one's a trope because it's just so relatable (I'm guessing - I'm male among other differences).
I hate it when physical characteristics replace personality - hooded eyes meaning someone (especially a male character) is sexy and deep; long silky hair in an unusally-used color (raven, chestnut, wheat, etc.), especially on a girl, means she's sexy and smart. I don't care about hair or eyes or anything like that. Forward the plot, please.
Yep, and telling me the colour of people's eyes. I haven't noticed the eye colour of most of my best friends, why would I need to know the eye colour of someone in a novel?
I like to know the color of people's eyes. It gives a more complete picture.
Load More Replies...I can't believe we're still dealing with the "She's beautiful... she looks like she'd be really nice, too!" in the 2020s. It's even worse when everyone is gobsmacked by her beauty and falls for her. IRL, beauty is far more subjective.
Agree! I'm reading a novel where the man has black eyes that sparkle...oh please! How many people have black coloured eyes IRL?
They could be dark brown. That tends to lean black when there's bad lighting. I just read something about people who feel that dark brown eyes give more emotion because of the way the lights reflect in them. Based on that I'd guess the guy has deep, dark brown eyes and there are a lot of light sources around him
Load More Replies...And can't the pretty girl ever be interesting besides her physical beauty!! Can she ever be awkward and not a b***h?? I have a lot of gorgeous friends that are just as insecure as the rest of us.
Group of completely different people end up stuck with each other, go through something tough, and then after three days they are all calling each other their “new family”, despite not knowing anything about them.
Three days? Try a couple of hours, tops. I particularly love one Resident Evil game where Leon must have spent 20 minutes with Ada Wong and a few minutes after that is screaming about how "I KNOW Ada! She would never do that!!"
We all know what would actually happen in the week after The Breakfast Club.
It was never stated or implied that they all (outside the couple of pair ups) became BFFs after the detention. Once I got past the adolescent age this movie was aimed at I found it far more unbelievable that they would, in the first place, have ever gotten into such deep revelation during an 8 hour confinement period. They would have each ignored each other during that time the same as they did during any other school day.
Load More Replies...This feels real to me though. It describes most of my years in USMC infantry.
The stories where a girl has to learn to love herself, and that means ending up dating the Popular Boy, who has never noticed her before. Same as the protagonists who take off their glasses and put a dress and makeup on and end up being the belle of the ball. How can they not have blurry vision with their glasses off??
The power of love magically fixes their eyesight. (I wish I was kidding, but I've had romance mss rejected because the FMC's disability wasn't fixed/healed by the romantic relationship. Yes, in the 2020s.)
Ugh, that sucks! Meanwhile pretty much everyone with a disability hates that trope and wants to see someone like them loved for who they are... people should get with the times and what audiences really want
Load More Replies...Can attest: fell in love with a hot guy and never needed glasses again. Oh wait I did get contact lenses...
I can wear thick glasses or I can squint and struggle to see. Glasses are just part of the package.
I want a book where a nerdy girl meets a bunch of popular girls who take her in. They give her a makeover for prom, remove her glasses, and do her makeup. She's squinting and stumbling around, and one of the popular girls is like, "You know what? Why are we ruining her vision? Here, babe, take your glasses back. Keep the makeup on if you want. You don't owe anyone to look a certain way." All the others agree, and the nerdy girl does too. They help her find a comfortable dress, and give up their own dresses (picked by their parents) for comfier ones as well. They all go to the dance and have fun together, and remain lifelong friends! Eventually, the nerdy girl gets a job as a programmer and shows them how to code. One of the popular girls becomes a psychologist. Another gets married and everybody else in the squad are there to support her as her bridesmaids. Two others become really popular streamers after the nerdy one introduced them to video games. They live happily ever after!
What is wrong with a girl wearing glasses anyway? Has nobody ever been hot for teacher?
In crime novels: the protagonist does not seek law enforcement assistance for their relatively simple predicament because *insert feeble excuse here*, but by the end of the novel, same protagonist is in a situation that commandeers 17 police officers, 3 crime scene investigators, 2 ambulances (1 for him/her self, another for the dead vilain), a forensic pathologist, doctors and nurses to treat their injuries, a frustrated DA office, an overwhelmed but extremely relieved spouse...
Or they do contact the police and the police do nothing because of reasons.
The detectives not thinking of something obvious that the reader thinks of almost immediately. Doesn’t mean we can solve the case, but it’s overlooked by the people who are supposed to be able to think outside the box
Honestly, I love most awful cliché tropes, I'm a sucker for a bad boy, I love a wiseass best friend, and I'm obsessed with a raging badass female lead. - But I can't stand the awkward, clumsy, mousy, shy girl who has no self-confidence and no personality and somehow everyone's inexplicably obsessed with her. I like a girl with substance, a Carstairs girl, or someone out of a Marissa Meyer novel. I love a girl that deserves the attention she gets.
Yes, I am that girl and nobody cares xD. Ok, my confidence got better lately, but still.
Glad to hear your confidence got better. You've got this
Load More Replies...I’ve no problem with a mousy person. Just with lazy personality writing. Couldn’t she at least be someone with a reason behind her anxiety? Like maybe her mother’s an abusive wretch who told her every day that she was hideous and people would only like her out of pity. And then she progresses to realize it’s a complete lie, and her friend loves her because she’s really authentic and kind, a breath of fresh air that keeps people young. And then she learns to fully step into the beat of her own drum.
Stephenie Meyer/EL James took tropes that were problematic, harmful, and/or ridiculous, and rode 'em hard all the way to the money-barn.
I've pictured Hermione Granger and Meg Murry for multiples of these posts.
How is Hermoine shy, awkward, or clumsy? She's literally one of the most outgoing, social, and well-adjusted characters in Harry Potter. And she has plenty of personality.
Load More Replies...In romance teen books, a girl finds a guy, then decides he's too good for her and goes with a nice guy type person instead, but is still drawn towards the first guy, and then at the end of the book returns to him, and finds out he was the one for her all along.
Perhaps it is just in classical literature where heroes die more often.
And "nice guy" seems to mean "boring and embarrassing guy", while a man who acts recklessly, smug and kind of violent apparently is Mr Perfect.
This was present in 80s YA, but the opposite. Girl has nice guy in her life, but longs for the other dude, ends up with him, and finds out it was the nice guy she wanted all along. We got two decades of "nice guy" crap tropes out of this dynamic! (Of course, the "nice guy" isn't always actually nice, either, but we didn't talk about that back then.)
The main character's best friend who is better than the main character.
I always believed that Rowling wanted to make Hermione the protagonist but she tought that a girl led story wouldnt sell so she made Harry but still favoured Hermione
Load More Replies...I am sorta thinking of Maze Runners? There was the main character, Thomas, and then the Asian guy who got captured to try to make him look weak. Even though he was so much stronger than Thomas. It's so stupid. the main characters are usually white men and never woman or black people. and now that more movies are having woman as main characters, movies are becoming less popular!! (i feel like this is gonna get downvotes but I'm saying how i feel)
Honestly, we have started having a lot more black leads than we did before, but never brown leads. But I did forget that saying according to Hollywood, “YoU oNlY nEeD rEpReSeNtAtIoN iF yOu ArE bLaCk, AnY oThEr CoLoR oThEr ThAn WhItE iS fAkE.”
Load More Replies...James Rhodes, mj (zendaya mj), Bucky barnes, yelena belova, Loki, Valkyrie, (Yes I added siblings but they’re kinda best friends)
Like.... this one unpopular girl, with a lovely personality and beautiful hair and eyes, and the popular mean gal who bullies her. Why are all mean people supposedly popular there? Nobody likes a mean peep
I haven't been "Popular" but I have always been well known and known/befriended the "popular" kids. Only one of them was mean, and I think it was more on accident then on purpose.
Mean kids are only popular with those who don't want to become targets of their meanness.
"How could we be popular if nobody liked us? That doesn't make a lick of sense."
"Nobody" is on the receiving end of the meanness. If the meanness is not being received there are so many people that do, in fact, like mean people. They're simply not viewed as mean because they are part of the same group.
When a male character is in love with a female character who verbally or physically abuses him.
*cough* Goku and Chichi *cough* (Though he technically wasn't in love with her but he stays with her anyway just because she cooks him good food.)
I'm a Strong Female Protagonist! I look down on things like cleaning, cooking and sewing! I live in filth and if I need to reattach a button I just punch it. I drink straight grain alcohol and eat raw meat! Grrrl Power!
How come nobody in any apocalypse shows likes sewing? I mean, somebody has to know how to sew if everybody is still walking around in clothes, right?
yes, punching buttons and eating raw meat is considered girl power xD.
To be fair, there are some strong, badass women out there who clean, cook, and sew, both in real life and in fiction.
Sometimes you HAVE to be badass to do all that - like yesterday, when I took on the toilet cleaning after our family of four had stomach flu for several days... I felt like I'd slain dragons after I was done!
Load More Replies...Did someone say sewing? I'll mend people's clothes so they can be protected while saving the world.
I don't like the trope of denigrating women who knit or like cats as if those things were wrong somehow!!!
Wouldn’t any “strong” protagonist that lives this way be annoying?
Hello Valkyrie from Thor Ragnarok who I forgot the name of (Edit: does she even have a name?)
Well, I don't like the token gay friend, there's never just one, in a friend group that has a gay friend, its more likely to have a token straight friend. It's not that the gay friend turns everyone gay, it's just that everyone realizes they have been gay. And I also don't like the girl who takes off her glasses and puts down her hair and puts on a nice outfit and boom all of a sudden she's the most beautiful girl ever and everybody likes her. Like, no, everyone's beautiful no matter what, let her wear her glasses, let her wear a ponytail, let her wear leggings and a t-shirt, she's beautiful, she doesn't need to change, everyone else needs to change the way they look at her.
I was, more or less, the token straight friend and then I realized ✨I'm Bi✨
and i'm gay. i think sarah in my friend group is the token straight friend.
Load More Replies...With the girl thing, I mostly see it on tv shows and movies, but YES. Because of things like that, loads of my friends were scared to get glasses.
I have glasses and I feel weird without them, I don't like it, and my friends say "oh you're so pretty without your glasses!" but I'm more comfortable with them, so I keep them on
Load More Replies...That is ridiculous. The idea of a token best friend in general. Why does it need to be now a token hetero that actually is in the closet? Lets respect all sexual preferences.
I have the opposite issue, I have reading glasses, and people say I only look pretty in glasses.
I really don't like the stereotypical Strong Female Character. They are not strong, they are two-dimensional and have no personality. Usually all you get is a fight scene or two without any motivations behind their actions. Usually a man is their superior and they're like nO iM tHe SuPeRiOr ToDaY and you're supposed to be like "yeah!" but then you don't like her enough to care. Oh, and they're always like "I don't need a man to be strong!" but then are in a relationship by the end of the movie and can't do anything by themselves anymore.
No, Katniss was strong. The movies portrayed her so badly, but if you read the books (written in her POV), you’ll understand how awesome she is.
Load More Replies...no no she has dimension she has personality annabeth does not fit in this category she is above this
Load More Replies...I was really disappointed in Captain Marvel because they spent so much time qualifying her as "strong woman" by pitting her against an easily detestable male. Beating up and shutting down a man does not equal girl power.
agreed! Although, the scene where she stole a motorcycle was pretty awesome.
Load More Replies...Ok ok but like come on for some reason I feel as if this was written by a man. Some girls are really cool like Katniss (takes care and feeds entire family while surviving two hunger games and more) annabeth chase ( self explanatory honestly) Not tris tho. She kinda sucks. Bella swan doesn't count eaither but like Hermione Granger fricking erased her parents memories of her and punched draco in the face so yea
Nope, I'm actually a woman. I feel like flat, two-dimensional female characters are mocking me. Of course there are female characters who ROCK (Hermione!! Annabeth!! And Katniss but not in the last book because the last book sucked!!) but there are so many that are just awful and really not good role models at all. Like Bella or Tris.
Load More Replies...I have to agree, these usually seem to be made more to attract a female audience than to actually showcase powerful women
Cassandra Clare and Marissa Meyer have the best well-rounded female characters. I could rave about Emma Carstairs all day, she's strong, quippy, and would do ANYTHING for those she loves. She hates coffee and preppies and the ocean and she loves chocolate and the beach and sharp objects. Yes, she needs her man, but that's because he's her parabatai, and they grew up joined at the hip, they don't know how to function separately. Perfect fighter. I love her so much, absolute queen.
ohhh my goodness yes! I don't know Emma Carstairs (what is she from?), but I love Marissa Meyer's female characters, especially Nova, Cinder, and Winter. ❤❤
Load More Replies...Add to that ... somehow "strong female character" somehow also means "will act like a numbnut because it's awesome" - like logic, practicality and just general humane courtesy have NO place in the "strong female" world. She'll cut you off, disregard ALL signs that what she's doing is harmful to others... because she's thinking about HERSELF. so she's STRONG. No... no she's not... she's a selfish, self-entitled brat.
I disagree, badass girls in books can be in a relationship and still be badass, and also they never end up thinking the man is superior
Love triangles. The absolute jerk male character who's the alpha type (yes, the word is used at least once), who's an absolute a-hole to the girl, gets aggressive, always at least 7 times says 'you're not my type, or I won't have sex with you' and then does, still is a d**k, as she falls harder in love with him. Her 'changing' him by the end of the book usually frustrates me the most. Does love change people, sure, do people adapt and compromise in relationships, yeah they should, but you're never gonna fundamentally change someone.
I should have hit enter. They're two separate tropes I don't like but love triangles are self explanatory.
Load More Replies...I hate the whole "alpha" thing in general. It's not real. It's not healthy. But somehow, the two genres that remain obsessed with "Alpha men" are Romance, and incels.
I could probably write a dissertation on the psychology behind romance novels. A lot of it boils down to three things. 1) Power play - that a person could make this powerful assertive person only look at them and they are the one thing that being desires. There's a lot more involved but there's empowerment in it, that ultimately at some point in the novel this alpha character would do anything for you. 2) Protection - despite the overbearing power in that protagonist they'll do anything to protect you, that this person/being would legit take a bullet/sword/alien laser beam for your safety. 3) Security - you'd think the same as protection but it's not. Look at how many billionaire bachelor books are out on market. In some way the "alpha" offers security outside of protection be it financial or taking you out of a bad situation. That's why this is a popular selling point. There's a ton of other things involved but they're the big three aside from the whole fantasy the novel builds.
Load More Replies...In your last sentence, you do realize that everything you stated before the fourth comma is canceled by everything you stated after the fourth comma, don't you?
Yes. I did it on purpose. While the changes we can invoke in others can be life altering for the most part they're not. It's a series of small things that create the biggest changes. I've seen too many people in actual real life relationships like that. I've seen too many broken hearts because they thought they could change someone. People act differently when they're in love but that doesn't ultimately change them. People can learn to compromise and should learn more about how compromise works. Ultimately though the only one who can change the toxic person is the toxic person themselves.
Load More Replies...It's not a love triangle.This is diferent trope, One thing I hate about it is double standart-when guy is chasing girl who's not interested, it's portrayed as romantic, while girl chasing guy is often played for laughs, or portrayed as annoying.
I said in an above response I should have hit enter - they were two different tropes.
Load More Replies...A proper love triangle would be the Twilight Saga. Girl falls for a*****e alpha type (Edward) who shuns her. But she has a backup plan 2nd choice dude (Jacob) who is better for her and adores her. But she stubbornly insists that alpha dude is her one and only. Annoying AF.
I was referring to two different tropes - I regret not hitting enter.
Load More Replies...The old good girl + bad boy plotline. Also, the movies and books and tv shows where the character is completely normal and boring, being picked on, maybe being raised in a bad household and wishing things were different, and then BAM BAM BAM it turns out their humanity's only hope to stop evil and save the world!!!!!!! I mean, don't get me wrong, some people execute this idea pretty flawlessly, but still.
What do the good girl and bad boy have in common? What is it that brings them together? What would they talk about? What do they admire about each other when they have such different values?
Written well, the good girl would envy the bad boy's confidence and the bad boy would admire the good girl's loyalty. But it's never written well, so it's pointless ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Load More Replies...*cough cough gacha hated child turns into hybrid princess cough*
Load More Replies...I want a bad girl + good boy plotline. Good boy tutors bad girl, he learns to loosen up a little and she learns to care more about those around her. They become best friends. Bad girl helps good boy get a date with the football player he's crushing on, the football player agrees and the two start going out. Bad girl is trying her best to stop a vengeful ex from sabotaging the dates, eventually she makes friends with the ex as well.
Years ago I stopped reading a author when I saw that in every book the main characters were always described as “devastating beauty/rich beyond compare/immortal" I will admit, I did enjoy reading the Interview with a Vampire books when they were first published... but OMG that trope got annoying
I remember reading books by Joy Fielding. I used to enjoy them, but after a few I realised that it was somehow always the male partner in the women's life who was the bad one (and giving bad vibes).
LOL I remember reading Sweet Valley High books and wanting to vomit every time they described the twins "perfect" looks. All the brunettes were sad pieces of s**t too, lol
love triangles, cop falling for the criminal, fatal love story that ends in death, etc.
I got one but I'm kinda into it: grumpy a*****e meets cheery lunatic and they fall in love.
The "perfect" girl/boy that has parents that make about a gazillion dollars a day.
The "supposed to be _ but is actually _ whereas friend is supposed to be _ but actually _" or the "I'm different from the other girls".
What about "I'm different from other blob fish!" *"hair" flip*
Rose from Titanic was annoying because she “wasn’t like other girls”. She tried smoking at the breakfast table, read Freud, drank beer and danced in third class, etc. The tragic romance was ok, just her “I’m better than you, my rich family and peers, because I’m a bad girl and know so much more than you ever will!” ( which in a way is true because most of them die) attitude was really just annoying!! I didn’t see her as a strong female character, just a snot. (Same with Bella from Twilight, but I won’t go there)
a big fight scene in a hallway
1) When someone (or often multiple people) is running down a narrow passageway with villains using guns are never hit by the bullets. 2) People who hide behind a stuffed couch or chair are perfectly safe from gun fire.
Why don't they ever just shoot them in the leg and incapacitate them? Save a lot of boring chases down corridors with always wet pipes and floors and really bad lighting.
I always wondered why people are always shot in the safety vest so they survive. If you want to take someone out, shoot them in the head and be done with it.
Load More Replies...You'd think everyone had titanium furniture with throw pillows.
Or people taking cover anywhere behind a vehicle except the engine - a 5.56 can punch through car doors easily
Some cars do have bullet proofing, but that's so rare you really can't count on some ranom car being one
Load More Replies...Ok, seriously, how DID C-3PO and R2-D2 not get hit? They were walking through some pretty heavy blaster fire, and it's not like they were moving all that fast.
My least favorite, most infuriating literature/film trope is exploiting rape as a superficial or voyeuristic plot point. Enough already!
Heartily agree. I wince when violence towards women is used as an accessory to the plot.
This is too common, and often results in the women who has experienced trauma comforting THE MAN about HIS emotions about it. "You could have died! I thought you were dead! How could I live without you?!" Well, okay, but she is the one who spent two days tied up in the trunk of a car, so maybe... talk to a therapist instead of dumping it back on the person who was actually victimized in the situation instead of making her pain about HIM.
Load More Replies...Me, too. I'd read enough and couldn't finish the books, so I know I didn't want to watch the show.
Load More Replies...Yeah Asoiaf... You can have violence against women and rape happen and not show it on screen. But a lot of men seem to like it.
It helps to villainize the bad guys even more - the majority of people like to see a rapist getting massivley hurt
Load More Replies...A lot of old gacha life glmms would take serious wars, genocides, and rape, and turn it into a quirky plotline for like 10 views.
A character that is nerdy/smart and therefore knows everything and succeeds in all intellectual pursuits. "This character has a PhD in astrophysics and chemistry, and will also describe great and lengthy details of animal biology, ancient Mongol customs, supersonic propulsion systems, classical French literature and complex economic systems.....in 8 languages, while playing 3 games of chess." Dr. House and The Big Bang Theory are rampant abusers of this.
... Dr. House is a totally different class than BBT ... above it. He's a real expert in one field and thrives in driving his superiors nuts, stands up for his beliefs a few times more than visible on first sight ... that makes him likable. While in BBT, which I didn't see much of tbh, I got fed up by that rule-obsessed r****d with his show about flags and changed programs. Seems he's made to display extreme smartity, though ... just didn't reach me.
It's called an exposition character. Go ahead. I challenge you. Write a story with reasonably entertaining depth and breadth that includes all necessary characters to represent ALL aspects that may need exposition in order to be understood by the audience. I guarantee your story would either be derided for lack of character development or wouldn't even be considered simply because it's too long to read because of character development.
The dorky, dumpy looking nerdy goof who gets a makeover and ends up wooing the jerky sex-pot who has the personality of a peach pit
I’m not sure if this is a literary trope or just a tv trope, but the military officer not agreeing with a superior officer but say “sir” with the most disdain possible. It doesn’t seem like just the word should be respectful but the tone should be as well.
If the character is a “huge misfit”and “super ugly and shy” but every boy in school has a crush on her
her name is also something like Heaven Ruby Flowers and she has flowing blonde hair and eyes like sapphires
Mary/Gary Sue style characters. Must say One Punch Man is a great satire of this.
I remember Sword Art Online. Main character was ultimate Gary Stu, and it was terribly boring.
The names come from one of the first known fan fictions, I believe of Star Trek. It describes a character that is very overpowered, can solve every problem or challenge effortlessly and every other main character loves and respects her instantly. Gary is just the male version. Rey from the recent Star Wars trilogy is a good example IMHO. She has thick plot armour (can't really be hurt) gets whatever powers or gimmicks when needed to progress (with little effort) and her whole life almost runs on rails to gether to the next place the story needs her to be to blow trough more paper thin bad guys etc. Mary and Gary make for very uninteresting stories.
Load More Replies...Not a big fan of the heist/detective tropes, I find it hard to follow the story because most of the times it bores me to death.
Have you read the Stevie Bell mysteries? ("Truly Devious" is the first one.) There's a side character who is non-binary, but that's not their chief attribute. And Stevie is smart, funny, and ready to kick butt as necessary.
Load More Replies...Well-written detective fiction isn't like that. Try some of the classics - Sherlock Holmes, Miss Marple, etc. Then check out Tony Hillerman and Ellis Peters.
it depends a lot on what you're reading. One of my favorite books of all time is kind of mystery/thriller but also teen, it's called I am Princess X and far from boring in my opinion! Then again, I've tried to get through Sherlock Holmes like 7 times and it's so dry I can't--
Have you ever read Monkeywrench py P.J. Tracy? The series cracks me up but it's pretty good.
1) The Chosen one (I love HP but this is overused) 2) Damsel in Distress (obvi) 3) That one lady whose cattiness and pettiness are over-exaggerated 4) The gay sidekick (why always a sidekick? Why can't we have more gay main characters?) 5) The token ___(insert identity)___ friend 6) The Angry Black Man/Lady (SO many things wrong with this stupid stereotype don't even get me started) 7) White Savior Trope 8) Magical Negro Trope 9) White Woman Syndrome Trope
I am planning on writing a lesbian love story. I am not going to focus on homophobia though I'm mostly just gonna make it a regular love story except lesbians instead of straight. I'm probably never gonna finish it though lol. Like most of my stories.
Patrick Ness has some marvelous gay lead characters; so does Adam Silvera. If you're a fan of science fiction, I recommend Max Gladstone - most of his leads are female, but homosexuality and trans are more the norm than not in his Craft Sequence.
It's basically describing how when white women go missing everyone panics, but when women of color go missing society tends to pay less attention or brush it off
Load More Replies...People who act like "The cops can't get involved" And "I can handle it myself" attitude. Like, why do this? Do you have suicidal thoughts? (Looking at you max pane)
Heinlein's women: smart, capable, and sassy, yet, somehow aroused by making their man a sandwich.
Naw, I like them. The only thing I can't stand is his ubiquitous polyamory.
That's Wyoming and Hazel. But there's also the whiny narcissistic mother/wife who thinks everyone's life should revolve around her.
You mean Robert A. Heinlein? His stories were full of sexist tropes. Especially Friday: This character is smart, powerful and beautiful. She get tortured and gang raped and acts like it's no big deal, She's not sad, traumatized or angry. She even declide that one of her rapists is decent guy, because he let her use bathroom. In the end, she marry him and is happy about that.
Oh also- another trope I’m quite sick of- twins being photo-copies of each other or always having something to do with the other. I know it makes for interesting characters and fuels the plot and there are some twin characters in literature that I admire, but in reality (I don’t know how it’s like for identical twins) having a fraternal twin brother is only like having another sibling. There’s nothing so special about it, we don’t finish each other’s sentences, we’re entirely different people, and our interests and friend groups are full on different. I’ve had people ask if I can feel his pain or read his mind. No! It’s actually quite boring!!
Don't look the same to you because you have a more intimate relationship with them and therefore know their differences or don't look the same from the standpoint of a stranger first meeting them and being able to truly identify one or the other because of readily visible differences? There is a vast difference between the two.
Load More Replies...The only identical twins who can pull this off are fred and george because they are LEGENDS
When you say we above are you speaking for all fraternal twins or simply anecdotally for yourself and your fraternal twin?
The girl meets her boss in the elevator, then scores her boss and a promotion. She "earned" it.
A computer "expert" who spends 9 seconds rapidly typing on a keyboard before announcing "I'm in!" as he hacks the Pentagon, UN, Alien Mother ship, or a Denny's in Albuquerque. (Its even better when a complete doofus character figures out a password on the second guess by looking at items on the persons desk.)
People who come up with this stuff have obviously never worked with MS-DOS in their lives...
Load More Replies...When tough cops or something laugh after getting slapped in the face
The absent minded/klutzy smart person.
It's all right, neither do I. *falls out of chair*
Load More Replies...Aw crap, I guess I gotta go get my klutz and absent minded card revoked. The floors gonna miss me, the walls will miss their hugs, and maybe I'll find my keys or those 4 documents I can't remember what I named but I know are somewhere on my work laptop.
The gorgeous, confident, smart heroine who falls for the goodhearted but really homely sidekick of the irresistibly handsome hero, instead of the hero (who, of course, also ends up with a gorgeous woman). I'm still waiting for the handsome hero to find love with the goodhearted but plain and frumpy friend of the gorgeous heroine, but I doubt that will happen anytime soon.
THANK YOU! I hate that these kinds of tropes are never gender-flipped or queered in any way. Well, unless she has a makeover and becomes a "hot girl."
It may not happen again soon but it has happened. Georgette Heyer, A Civil Contract. And Elizabeth Goudge, Green Dolphin Country; just two examples. I hated both books until I grew up enough to recognize that external beauty isn’t enough to justify deep emotional connection. Reading them again (and again) as a ‘grown up’, you don’t have to be an 8/10+ on the physical beauty scale if your inner beauty matches the needs of your SO.
Comic relief characters.
When they're well done, they're magnificent. When they're badly done (which is most of the time), you wish you'd never bothered to learn to read.
Jarjar comes to mind. If he had ben toned down a notch or 5 he could have been a fun diversion I stead of the annoyance he became.
Load More Replies...For characters here's my list of cliches: Femme Fatales Love Triangles Unreasonable asshat bully/jock. Antihero-main (usually male) character's family member/love-intrest/child/pet killed so the plot can progress to vengenance. Supergenius completely evil arch nemisis/overlord. Save the world from secret weapon/conspiracy.
I HATE the 'white girl in high school who has blond hair and blue eyes and perfect skin and wears high heels and really short skirts and is snobby'
1. People "falling in love" in less than 24 hours and/or kissing near-strangers passionately for no apparent reason ("Nerve", I'm looking at you!). 2. Humans engaging in sexual relations with aliens from another planet... uh, hello, b********y? Just no. 3. The romanticizing & glamorizing of vampirism & other spiritually dark themes in teen lit. 4. The way every book or show aimed at kids & teens has to be like a "United Nations of Beneton" ad, and the characters all have to have "relevant issues" & depression & identity crises, etc. What happened to stories about normal, happy kids having adventures? 5. The "hypocritical/repressed Christian" and "narrow-minded/judgmental Christian who's really just ignorant or afraid of what s/he doesn't understand" trope that Hollywood absolutely looooves to throw into movies & tv shows. Usually this is some one-dimensional cartoon-villain character who reflects about a 3rd-grader's understanding of what Christianity actually means, but is supposed to learn an important lesson about tolerance, or whatever. This trope is both incredibly ignorant & incredibly condescending.
1. To be fair, I met my husband at an SF convention and we were kissing within an hour. We have now been married for 32 years.
So sex with an Alien is instantly be*******y? Extremely short thinking!
The kind of perilous adventures these kids are having can't realistically happen without producing trauma though
He is fat, plain, and rather stupid, but he gets the slim, beautiful woman as his wife. Whereas the fat, plain, and not overly bright woman never get the good-looking man. This is a particularly common trope in so-called comedy TV shows.
"Look man, I'm just a guy who had a terrible upbringing. A kung-fu master next door neighbor took pity on me at a young age, turning me into a killing machine to teach me discipline. And when he was brutally murdered I sought vengeance and made every one of his tormentors pay before moving cross country and changing my identity so I wouldn't face jail time for force feeding gang members their own testicles. In my spare time I spend hours a day shooting guns and doing insane amounts of cardio to maintain this six pack. I'm really not looking for trouble. Those days are behind me. But if you continue to knock on my door every weekend to convince to switch my cable television provider to yours...I promise I will break every oath I've kept to be a peaceful law abiding citizen and..."
This one made me laugh me head off! It’s unfortunately way, way too accurate. “Look, I’m a nice, ordinary guy who just happen to have killed five gazillion people because my gut instinct is to turn instant, aggressive vigilante when provoked. The fact that I’ve murdered at least one person with every weapon and method known to man, up to an including strangulation by raccoon, doesn’t make me overly violent or unstable in any, any way - it makes me a catch!”
Load More Replies...Although it has nothing to do with the main story, a love interest HAS to get woven in.
Right, like of course they're gonna have a thing now. Uff.
Load More Replies...Women always seem to run and then hurt an ankle. Fat /chubby men/children shown as stupid, Some kid who has a pet that runs off and the kid goes looking for it. No gay heroes. Military personel 'seem' to know more than a scientist in their field of work and treat said scientist as a lunatic. Every time they suddenly need a 'car' it is usually a 4x4/truck, just for once let it be a small hatchback. Action movies where women goes through hell but come out with hair that isn't messy and just a single smudge of dirt but otherwise look ready for a night out. Children with a bottom lip pout that looks like the front of a Tesla.
Yeah - what’s the deal with no gay heroes? I mean it’s 2022, come on! Don’t worry, I can root for a homosexual hero even though I’m straight myself - gay people have, after all, managed to root for straight heroes since the beginning of fictional stories, so I’m sure we can handle the equivalence, can’t we?
Load More Replies...Two that drive me crazy are the generic "scientist" who is seemingly an expert in every field of science so one minute they're single headedly finding a cure to an unknown disease and the next they're calculating how to deflect an asteroid (ok, those are extreme examples but you get my drift). Secondly is the hyper intelligent serial killer who loves listening to classical music. Just once I want them to listen to some hip hop or drum & bass.
Pet peeve- main character meets other main character and is instantly attracted and immediately describes their body in detail.
The black world weary police captain who'll only give you 24hrs to solve a case that has puzzled the departments greatest criminologists for months because the mayors on his "ass!"
I hate how there's always some kind of character whether it be a side character or the protagonist that just happens to be depressed and sad and has horrible parents and everyone feels bad for them and they're just looking for love and want the be alone and don't understand people and are depressed and unhappy and has a horrible life and never smiles and just sits in a corner and are depressed and sad all the time and has no friends and isn't popular. Did I mention they're depressed? Like, depression isn't sitting in a corner being all mopey and it's raining and then they find someone who they like and apparently they like them back and give them love and kisses and make them not depressed anymore. That's not depression. Sure, depression is feeling like you don't/can't do anything, but depression is also just putting on a smile because nobody cares about you being depressed.
Mine is the old "monster/dinosaur/critter" chasing people and they NEVER turn down a side street or alley. They just keep running straight in front of it. I have never seen a movie where someone is being chased by a "Creature" and they dash down a side street and then run the opposite way the creature is going. That's what I would do, I'm not going to outrun a dinosaur or werewolf, I have to hope that being out of its line of sight will cause it to forget about me so I can hide and survive.
He is fat, plain, and rather stupid, but he gets the slim, beautiful woman as his wife. Whereas the fat, plain, and not overly bright woman never get the good-looking man. This is a particularly common trope in so-called comedy TV shows.
"Look man, I'm just a guy who had a terrible upbringing. A kung-fu master next door neighbor took pity on me at a young age, turning me into a killing machine to teach me discipline. And when he was brutally murdered I sought vengeance and made every one of his tormentors pay before moving cross country and changing my identity so I wouldn't face jail time for force feeding gang members their own testicles. In my spare time I spend hours a day shooting guns and doing insane amounts of cardio to maintain this six pack. I'm really not looking for trouble. Those days are behind me. But if you continue to knock on my door every weekend to convince to switch my cable television provider to yours...I promise I will break every oath I've kept to be a peaceful law abiding citizen and..."
This one made me laugh me head off! It’s unfortunately way, way too accurate. “Look, I’m a nice, ordinary guy who just happen to have killed five gazillion people because my gut instinct is to turn instant, aggressive vigilante when provoked. The fact that I’ve murdered at least one person with every weapon and method known to man, up to an including strangulation by raccoon, doesn’t make me overly violent or unstable in any, any way - it makes me a catch!”
Load More Replies...Although it has nothing to do with the main story, a love interest HAS to get woven in.
Right, like of course they're gonna have a thing now. Uff.
Load More Replies...Women always seem to run and then hurt an ankle. Fat /chubby men/children shown as stupid, Some kid who has a pet that runs off and the kid goes looking for it. No gay heroes. Military personel 'seem' to know more than a scientist in their field of work and treat said scientist as a lunatic. Every time they suddenly need a 'car' it is usually a 4x4/truck, just for once let it be a small hatchback. Action movies where women goes through hell but come out with hair that isn't messy and just a single smudge of dirt but otherwise look ready for a night out. Children with a bottom lip pout that looks like the front of a Tesla.
Yeah - what’s the deal with no gay heroes? I mean it’s 2022, come on! Don’t worry, I can root for a homosexual hero even though I’m straight myself - gay people have, after all, managed to root for straight heroes since the beginning of fictional stories, so I’m sure we can handle the equivalence, can’t we?
Load More Replies...Two that drive me crazy are the generic "scientist" who is seemingly an expert in every field of science so one minute they're single headedly finding a cure to an unknown disease and the next they're calculating how to deflect an asteroid (ok, those are extreme examples but you get my drift). Secondly is the hyper intelligent serial killer who loves listening to classical music. Just once I want them to listen to some hip hop or drum & bass.
Pet peeve- main character meets other main character and is instantly attracted and immediately describes their body in detail.
The black world weary police captain who'll only give you 24hrs to solve a case that has puzzled the departments greatest criminologists for months because the mayors on his "ass!"
I hate how there's always some kind of character whether it be a side character or the protagonist that just happens to be depressed and sad and has horrible parents and everyone feels bad for them and they're just looking for love and want the be alone and don't understand people and are depressed and unhappy and has a horrible life and never smiles and just sits in a corner and are depressed and sad all the time and has no friends and isn't popular. Did I mention they're depressed? Like, depression isn't sitting in a corner being all mopey and it's raining and then they find someone who they like and apparently they like them back and give them love and kisses and make them not depressed anymore. That's not depression. Sure, depression is feeling like you don't/can't do anything, but depression is also just putting on a smile because nobody cares about you being depressed.
Mine is the old "monster/dinosaur/critter" chasing people and they NEVER turn down a side street or alley. They just keep running straight in front of it. I have never seen a movie where someone is being chased by a "Creature" and they dash down a side street and then run the opposite way the creature is going. That's what I would do, I'm not going to outrun a dinosaur or werewolf, I have to hope that being out of its line of sight will cause it to forget about me so I can hide and survive.
