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When someone uses a season as a verb, you know you are in the company of ignorance. "We are summering in Tuscany," delivered with complete composure, as if this is a normal thing that normal people say in normal conversations, while somewhere nearby, a person is quietly calculating whether they can afford to put the heating on this winter. Not winter as a verb. Winter as a cold, expensive, extremely real noun.

The middle class has developed its own language, reference points, and bizarre blind spots that are equal parts fascinating and infuriating, depending on where you are standing. The wellness advice, the property ladder opinions, the baffling confidence with which deeply out-of-touch things are said to people who cannot afford to relate to a single word of them. These are the worst of the worst.

#1

A social media post detailing ignorant things middle-class people say, specifically oversimplifying poverty and resource access.

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Ace
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2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Sam Vimes' boots again.

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    #2

    Middle-class people say: My parents got me a car when I turned 16. Ignorant things.

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    Rinso The Red
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I got a car for graduation! What did you get Rinso?" "I got kicked out"

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    #3

    A social media post highlighting ignorant things middle-class people say, such as not eating leftovers.

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    LizzieBoredom
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'll eat your leftovers, your rightovers, heck even your middleovers. I'm not picky.

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    The middle class did not always exist. Before the Industrial Revolution turned the economic world upside down in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, society operated on a brutally simple two-tier system: you were either born into land and title, or you were not, and that was largely the end of the conversation.

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    The rise of factories, trade, and professional work created something entirely new: a class of people who built their position through skill and commerce rather than inheritance. They were not aristocrats. They were not peasants. They were something the world had not quite seen before, and they have been finding their own way ever since.

    #4

    A comment highlighting an ignorant thing middle-class people say about those on welfare.

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    Kelly Scott
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I can't count the number of people I've seen that complain about all the perks the poor get: free medical, free food, free housing. They have no understanding of what it takes to qualify for these things and what you have to do to keep them. I always ask, "If these things are so wonderful and important to you, why haven't you quit your job and applied for them then?" People finally shut up then.

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    #5

    An ignorant thing middle-class people say, assuming everyone can get new clothes anytime.

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    WorkAholic1
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My "new clothes" each year came from the previous summer yard sales.

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    #6

    Middle-class people say poverty is a moral failing, ignoring systemic financial struggles.

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    Michael Largey
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Saying someone being poor is bad with money is like saying someone falling off a cliff is bad with gravity.

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    The global middle class is considerably larger than most people picture when they imagine it. Somewhere between 4 and 4.5 billion people currently fall into this category worldwide, meaning that for the first time in human history, more than half the planet lives in a middle-class household.

    The defining threshold is roughly $11 to $110 in spending power per day, adjusted for local costs. This is a bracket wide enough to contain both the person agonizing over an avocado at a farmers market and the person who has never set foot in a farmers market in their life, and yet here they both are.

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    #9

    A social media post with a comment questioning the concept of savings, illustrating ignorant things middle-class people say.

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    Beth Wheeler
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The only savings I have is what's required to keep my checking acct open at the credit union.

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    Getting into the middle class and staying in the middle class are two different conversations, and getting out of it entirely is a third one that nobody talks about enough. The route in typically runs through education, specialized skills, and consistent employment, all achievable with the right circumstances and a significant amount of work.

    The route upward from there is a fundamentally different challenge. Building genuine upper-class wealth requires moving away from earning a wage and toward owning assets that generate income independently. The middle class works for its money. The upper class has largely arranged for its money to work for itself.

    #10

    A social media post about ignorant things middle-class people say, specifically about not knowing how to use public transportation.

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    Wil Whalen
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Public transportation isn't readily available in all cites. Our transportation system s***s where I live.

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    #11

    An ignorant thing middle-class people say: Just quit, then, regarding a terrible job.

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    SM
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I remember something that was said on a TV show a long time ago (sorry forget the show). Son asks father "If you hate working at the factory why don't you quit? Father, because that is where the money is." I personally have been very lucky to almost always be getting paid for what I enjoy doing, but tons of people aren't so lucky.

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    #12

    A comment from thesparklybrie asking, You don't have anybody you can ask for help? among ignorant things middle-class people say.

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    Rick Murray
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No, dear, I don't. I grew up with the mindset of figuring out my problems by myself because others were........unreliable at best.

    Spittnimage
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    2 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are a few places in my town that helps people with rent, utilities, and food. Both are probably d'ead and gone now thankfully, but you could go to the township trustee's office to get help with rent or utilities and the two women that worked there acted like the money was theirs. They'd put you through an interrogation before they'd give you a voucher for what you needed help with. They were not nice women, acted like they hated their job but stayed because they liked the power they had over the people coming in for help.

    Lady Gypsy Rain
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    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People in these jobs often fail to recognize that they are literally one or two paychecks away from needing assistance if they lose their job for any reason.

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    Pawsome
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That doesn't have to be related to money though. My mom grew up in poverty, but was always surrounded. There were a lot of issues, but when necessary they all banded together and it was a BIG family.

    43Duckies
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True, but now imagine how it was for people in your mom's position who DIDN'T have a big extended family that could band together "when necessary". Many poor people are genuinely on their own, and it can be tough to build relationships and community when you are working four jobs.

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    Toika Gao
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    1 day ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, but they need help more urgently than me

    Charlotte
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My great nephew is the only child in his generation. 4 aunts and uncles... Is he supposed to take care of them when they are old,.as well as a y family of his own he might have? Family taking care of each other might mostly work with a growing population, but absolutely not with a shrinking one.

    Laserleader
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    1 day ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents had seven kids and not one of us want to help them in their elder age. But then they were abusve and stupid.

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    Baby boomers were the golden generation of the middle class in a way that has not been replicated since. When boomers were in their 20s, nearly 70% of them fell into middle-income territory. This represents a level of generational economic stability that successive cohorts have simply not been able to match.

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    The middle class has been quietly shrinking ever since, meaning millennials and Gen Z are navigating a significantly more compressed version of the economic landscape that their parents and grandparents built their assumptions on. This does go some way toward explaining why the advice to simply "get on the property ladder" lands the way it does.

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    #13

    A screenshot of a Reddit comment by herpaderp_maplesyrup about middle-class people parking money in real estate.

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    Michael Largey
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Many people devote a large chunk of every paycheck to real estate. It's called "rent".

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    #14

    A social media post with the comment, Why did you wait until you ran out of ___ to get more? Just grab it when you're running low, highlighting ignorant things middle-class people say.

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    Toika Gao
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    1 day ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Actually, I do that with toilet paper 😬

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    #15

    Yeiamsatonthetoilet's thoughts on middle-class people's confidence, revealing ignorant things they say.

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    John L
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They say money can't buy you happiness..maybe not, but it makes life significantly easier!

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    In the United States, the middle class has an official income bracket, and it is broader than most people expect. A three-person household earning anywhere between roughly $55,800 and $167,500 annually falls within the middle-class definition used by the Pew Research Center and the U.S. Census Bureau.

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    That is a range wide enough to contain deeply different lived experiences. You will have the family carefully managing every monthly expense at the lower end, and the household taking two international holidays a year at the upper end. They are technically the same class. They are not, in any meaningful daily sense, living the same life.

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    #17

    Screenshot of an ignorant thing middle-class people say: anything referencing their cabin or vacation home.

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    Lizzy Lizzard
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    How is that a middle class and not an upper class thing?

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    #18

    Middle-class people throwing out dirty Tupperware that is too gross to clean. Things middle-class people say.

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    detective miller's hat
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean..... it depends on what has been sitting in said tupperware and how long. Once I totally forgot about a container of beef stroganoff and it ended up pushed juuust far back enough in the fridge that I couldn't see it, so out of sight out of mind. There was no way I was releasing the abomination in that container into the world by opening it.

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    In the United Kingdom, class identity is expressed as much through shopping habits and leisure choices as it is through income, and a large-scale YouGov survey mapped this out with uncomfortable precision. Buying groceries at Waitrose or Marks and Spencer rather than a budget supermarket emerged as a significant class marker.

    So did taking skiing holidays abroad, a leisure activity that carries a very specific set of financial and cultural assumptions baked directly into its existence. The British class system has always communicated itself through extremely specific consumer choices, and the supermarket you walk into says more about your perceived social position than most people are entirely comfortable admitting.

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    #20

    A screenshot of a Reddit comment by NailsNCoffee about ignorant middle-class thoughts on food banks.

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    John L
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The local church I would see do this on Thursdays. Haven't seen it happen at all this year. Times are really tough.

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    #21

    A screenshot of a Reddit comment by aidsfarts on picky eating as a middle-class behavior.

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    Kelly Scott
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also, poor people can usually eat the same thing day after day because that's what they do. I have a friend who can't stand to even eat leftovers because they're something she ate the day before. But I remember getting a can of Crisco, some salt, and a 5-lb bag of potatoes and having fried potatoes for every meal until the potatoes were gone. If I told someone that, they'd ask me how I could stand to eat like that. The other thing in eating is that poor people don't make "balanced" meals a priority. They can't always afford to have three or four different things to eat at the table. One item is what they'll eat and that's the meal. I still find myself doing that today. I'll eat plain hamburger with ketchup and that will be my supper. Nothing else. No veggies, no dessert. I had to keep a food diary once and the doctor wouldn't believe what I would put down for meals. He thought I was lying about what I ate every day.

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    Ask Americans how they define middle-class status, and the answers are grounded, practical, and very revealing. A Washington Post survey found that the top markers were not holidays or postcodes or supermarket preferences; they were a stable job, the ability to put money aside for the future, and access to health insurance.

    No mention of summering anywhere. No skiing. Just security, savings, and not being one medical bill away from a financial crisis. The contrast between what the American middle class considers its defining characteristics and the oblivious confidence with which some of its members speak about financial struggle is, frankly, the whole article.

    #22

    Disenfranchisedchild's post on middle-class people and their vacations, illustrating ignorant things they say.

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    Optimus Octopus
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My uncle took his family to Panama City once a summer. They drove all night after he got off work. Then he slept all day in the car while the kids had a beach day. Then they drove back home. 24 hours round-trip. All they could afford. At least they got that.

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    #23

    A comment about ignorant things middle-class people say: So no one can cosign for you?

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    Andrew Keir
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    11 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Expecting someone to co-sign is d**n cheeky - the business wants to make the loan but expects someone not involved with the purchase to back the loan anyway? This comes across as "We'll make sure we get our money but we'll still hit you with extreme interest rates because you're poor". Cake-ism?

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    The ignorant comments on this list were almost never delivered with bad intentions, and that is the most important thing to hold onto as you read them. The middle-class blind spot is not cruelty; it is insulation. It is the very specific unawareness that comes from being comfortable enough, for long enough, that discomfort starts to feel like a choice rather than a circumstance.

    The summer-as-a-verb crowd is not the villain. They are just people who have forgotten, or perhaps never fully learned, that the view looks completely different from the other side of the income bracket. The first step is noticing. This list is a good place to start.

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    Do you have any other middle-classisms that drive you up the wall? Share them in the comments!

    #25

    A comment about middle-class people saying things work out for the best, from a working-class perspective.

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    Ma k
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    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah okay what comes in the working class? You can count on my time as a firefighter and my mom was a union grocery store worker but we managed to live a decent life in a five bedroom 2.5 bathroom house with a fridge and cupboards with food. Had cars and a motorhome.

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    #26

    A social media post featuring the question, Why don't you just put your bills on auto-pay?, an example of ignorant things middle-class people say.

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    Kelly Scott
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I worked in a bank and saw firsthand how hard it is to take things off auto-pay, short of closing your checking account. I swore I would never have anything on auto-pay, no matter how much it saved me.

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    #27

    Screenshot showing an ignorant thing middle-class people say: So where is the family vacation taking place this year?

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    Spittnimage
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I hated those "tell us where you went on your summer vacation" the teacher asked when school started.

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    #28

    A comment about ignorant things middle-class people say regarding car ownership and assumptions.

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    43Duckies
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I am 50, and I have never been able to afford a car. I do live in a place with good public transportation, so before I got too disabled I could get a lot done with that (though it did get more and more difficult/exhausting over time). Now my primary transportation is only what is covered by my Medicare health insurance, which is so inconvenient and tedious to deal with that I only use it for unavoidable medical appointments. I do use Lyft, but as little as possible (mainly to take cats to the vet) as I need to save the money for other things. (No, the cats aren't optional, they keep me hanging on.)

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    #29

    A social media post about ignorant things middle-class people say, like throwing out old items unnecessarily.

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    K Barnes
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    2 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Our city does curbside "large item pickup" twice a year and it always amazes me how much perfectly good stuff gets thrown out that could be posted for free on FB Marketplace and go to a good home. Some of it is junk, but lots of it is perfectly good, just dated.

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    #30

    A screenshot of a Reddit comment detailing an ignorant middle-class statement about asking parents for money.

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    Gerald Ogden
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    10 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ask my parents? One was going to run me after graduation had I not moved, the other I was grateful to get a box of groceries once in a while to survive college. I STILL can't abide the taste of ramen...

    #31

    An ignorant thing middle-class people say: Do you ski? on a social media post screenshot.

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    Rick Murray
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do I *ski*? Take a good long look at my body and ask me that again, slowly. 😂

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    #32

    Middle-class person says, Worse case, Ill move back in with my parents, an ignorant thing they say.

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    Pawsome
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom just moved in with me and my twin brother might. So I better keep my income, or it's three people in financial troubles

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    #33

    Middle-class people comment about medical debt after a single visit, highlighting financial struggles.

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    Jeremy James
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    2 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When pharma commercials say, "Ask your doctor if Fhqwhgads is right for you." Ah yes, "my doctor," who is a person I know and can afford to talk to. We golf together.

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    #34

    Middle-class people say: Just put it on your credit card and pay it off before the end of the month. Ignorant things.

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    Beth Wheeler
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's not always possible, especially if something unexpected comes up like a car repair.

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    #35

    Pineappleparty_'s observation on middle-class people riding lawnmowers, pointing out ignorant things they say.

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    Ace
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Poor people don't have big lawns that 'need' them anyway.

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    #37

    A comment on middle-class people saying how dental health indicates economic background.

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    SummerVeE
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The saddest part is that adults who never had braces are viewed differently. This is especially an issue for women. In order to appear polished and professional, society expects clean, straight white teeth. It's not fair for all the kids out there who didn't have that from their parents. I don't agree with it, at all. I'm simply pointing out the way things are (a lot of the time).

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    #38

    Middle-class people say: I will just get a new one. about something that cost $50 or $100. Ignorant things.

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    Kelly Scott
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If I got asked to lunch and said it was because I had no money, people would tell me, "Oh, it's only $5. Surely you can afford that!" People don't understand, when you say you have no money, you have NO money. Not yes, I have a couple bucks in change in the car, or yes, I can pull it out of my a*s. I mean I have NO money, as in ZERO, ZILCH, ZIP. It's the 1st, I've paid my rent, my bills, and gotten gas and groceries and for the next four weeks, I have NO money left over for ANYTHING!

    #39

    A screenshot of a Reddit comment by a_little_sloth about middle-class people saying, I don't feel like cooking, let's go out.

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    John L
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah, that'll drain your pockets fast! Don't get me started on Uber eats and other app delivery services. Have never used them, never will.

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    #40

    Middle-class people arguing about who is or is not middle class. Ignorant things middle-class people say.

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    John L
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Touche' This definition has definitely changed in the last 10 years.

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    #41

    No1flyhalf's comment about middle-class people shopping at Target, showcasing ignorant things they say.

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    Kelly Scott
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "We don't like Walmart because of how they treat their employees, so we shop at Whole Foods instead." How nice you can afford to do that.

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    #43

    Middle-class people say they are due for a new one, cars, TVs, cameras, phones, an ignorant thing to say.

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    Nikki Sevven
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm reaching that point in time where my fridge is 20 years old (and I've replaced the door gasket and both thermostats), my stove is 25 years old (and the propane regulators are shot), and my washer and dryer are 15 years old (and fortunately mechanical and, thus, easily fixed). Also, my car is nearly 20 years old. I hope they don't all go at once.

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    #44

    A comment from storysandee about ignorant things middle-class people say, specifically about parents taking and picking up from school.

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    Partypants
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I took two city busses on my own as a kid to get to school , I remember showing up soaking wet and freezing after waiting in the rain. I always envied my friends who came with their parents in a warm car.

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    #45

    A comment from wish.dreamer2 discussing ignorant things middle-class people say: Her boyfriend dries his hands with paper towels.

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    Spittnimage
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Paper towels in my house were only for cat puke or big messes.

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    #46

    An ignorant thing middle-class people say about having a pool.

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    Pawsome
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Maybe I need to revise my definition of middle class, because to me that is more a very rich person thing! (Unless we're talking about an inflatable pool, which I doubt...)

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    #47

    Middle-class people say: The phrase annual vacation. Ignorant things.

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    FreeDragon
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pretty normal in European countries. And of course visiting a foreign country is easier here too.

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    #48

    A comment discussing ignorant things middle-class people say, such as piracy is bad, from a first-world view.

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    Lukas (f​u​ck/tra​ns​pho​b​es)
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do my best to support indie games. I've bought Stardew Valley three or four different times on different devices (it helps that it's not more than 15 dollars). But for big corporations? I can't afford a 60-70-80 dollar game. I'm not paying nearly 1K for every Sims 4 DLC they've locked basic gameplay mechanics they put in their 40 dollar expansions.

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    #49

    Middle-class people bragging about getting the best deals. Ignorant things middle-class people say.

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    Rick Murray
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are two sorts of middle class. Those who came from middle class backgrounds, and those who rose there. It's the second lot that are massively insecure about money and the prices of things. If you got into a home and it is tasteful Laura Ashley, then it's middle class. If you got into a home and the host points it out and, worse, starts talking about the price, then they aren't from a middle class background.

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    #53

    A screenshot of a Reddit comment by d33p_blu3 discussing middle-class people paying off debt and taking on more.

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    Chaotic Good
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    2 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the US, that's how we keep our BS credit score high.

    #54

    A comment about ignorant things middle-class people say regarding a stay-at-home parent.

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    Kelly Scott
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    2 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My mom was a SAHM, which is why she and my dad always thought I was such a failure. Why couldn't I get married and stay at home all day and take care of kids, why couldn't a husband support a wife and kids on one salary, why didn't I just go to college to get a good job so I could buy a house, how hard can it be to get a job - just walk in and give them your resume? If you can't do any of that, there must be something wrong with you. We did it, why can't you?

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