
Expert Says “For Years, I Took My Paid Time Off All Wrong” And Explains How To Do It Correctly Interview With Author
Taking a well-deserved break from work sounds great, right? When you have the opportunity to recharge, travel, and be with your loved ones, it allows for you to come back even more creative and productive. Unfortunately, Americans are notorious for being workaholics and seem to get used to longer hours and less time off.
Feeling guilty about leaving their projects or fearing they would lose their boss’ respect all factor into preventing employees from going on holiday. But when working too much leads to burnout and high levels of stress, taking some time off is a must. And Selena Rezvani, a leadership expert, speaker, and author, is here to remind us of that.
She recently caught the attention of more than 1.8 million people on TikTok after making a video full of tips about paid time off (PTO). Selena often uses her platform to discuss corporate culture and share advice about self-advocating in the workplace. Read on to find out some of her illuminating insights, and tell us what you think about them in the comments below!
Recently, leadership expert Selena Rezvani made a viral TikTok sharing her best tips for using paid time off at work
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Selena Rezvani specializes in helping employees stand up for themselves at work and even wrote a best-selling book about it called Pushback: How Smart Women Ask — and Stand Up — for What They Want. She told Bored Panda that the hustle culture is real. “Research shows North Americans are the most stressed-out workers in the world. If you think about it, it’s hard to be results-obsessed and NOT get burned out.”
“I tell people that dedication and hard work are things to be proud of, but when we take time off regularly, we have better health, stamina, and engagement at work. Not just that, we actually perform better and work harder.” She suggested taking PTO to refuel instead of thinking of it as something to use when there’s a huge surplus.
The leadership expert revealed that some people ask her about “unpaid time off” too. She believes that for companies it would be a bad idea. “It can encourage presenteeism — where employees feel pressure to come in sick if the company doesn’t have a PTO policy in place,” Selena explained. “If you’re leading a company that lacks PTO — you’ll suffer in finding talent: PTO is the second most important ‘perk’ to employees after health insurance.”
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You can watch the full video, which got over 1.8 million views, right over here
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However, Selena would like to advise you to be skeptical about “unlimited PTO” plans since they’re way too ambiguous. “There are often unspoken expectations about how to use it from management – for example, what constitutes the ‘right amount’ to take. That means it’s easy for employees to violate those expectations because nothing is explicitly stated!”
There’s usually no payout if you leave this job because there’s no actual value to this “generous benefit” you’ve been given. Also, “unlimited plans suffer from underuse. One study showed people with unlimited plans take fewer days in a year than people with traditional plans. Not just that, but Americans with unlimited PTO are twice as likely as folks with traditional plans to say they ‘always’ work on vacation.”
“Let’s be honest. Unlimited PTO is a marketing tool. If you want to offer people a transparent, useable plan, my advice is to give people a generous and clearly stated number of PTO days,” she added.
After receiving supportive replies from her followers, she created another clip talking about good habits to set with your manager
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Here’s the full video
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There’s still a stigma against taking time off, and some managers and bosses even believe they have the right to disrespect their workers for going on holiday. According to Selena, “PTO guilt” is real.
“Employers need to stop vacation-shaming and incentivizing people to have ‘perfect attendance’. It’s crazy to me that there are workplaces that give out perfect attendance awards and financial incentives to those who don’t use their PTO at the end of a period,” she noted, saying it’s not conducive to normal human rhythms to work like a robot.
After all, “people can and should be able to judge for themselves when they need time off (and of course to make an effort to help operations run smoothly while they’re gone).”
Selena also recommends companies simplify PTO request processes, lowering the barrier to entry for people. “As a grown adult who knows their body, don’t require a person to provide a justification or reason to be out! It’s time to normalize using PTO regularly because more than half of Americans don’t take all their PTO in a year – compared to France where 90% of people take all their PTO.”
Plus, leaders should normalize encouraging people to fully step away when taking time off. “That’s important because when Americans do take vacations, 41% are checking into work while away, and a whopping 84% of executives have canceled vacations in order to work.”
Selena also shared some great examples of how healthy boundaries at work should sound
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Sometimes, people want to keep a cushion of time for the unexpected, and Selena, a mom to 9-year-old twins, can especially empathize with wanting to save time for sick kids and other stressful things. “And let’s be real — there are some people who simply don’t have the privilege to just ask for time off.”
“But one common perception in the US is that time off needs to be earned and sacrificed for,” she added. Well, the leadership expert likes to use the analogy of a “painkiller versus a vitamin” here.
“Rather than seeing [PTO] like a preventative, beneficial ‘vitamin’ we regularly take to keep us vital and healthy, we tend to see it a little more like a ‘painkiller’ for stress. That thing we need to offset everyday pressures and tensions.”
If you’re wondering about the best ways to use your paid time off, the expert suggested extending your break when the company is closed, taking your birthday off each year, or taking a day here or there for joy, self-investment, socializing or alone time.
“If you personally have little PTO to work with, say one week, you can use the piggyback technique of tacking on one additional day off to an already short week say, a federal holiday. That gives you a longer period off and a shorter workweek to look forward to,” she said.
Selena told us that previously she got a little too practiced at tying her productivity to her worth as a human being. “I thought, ‘Did I go hard this week and push myself to the point of insanity?! Good for me, I deserve a nice reward this weekend!’ And that was the little ping pong match that went on inside my head every week.”
She also lived with FOMO — the fear of missing out. “But no more. I want to live life to its fullest. I want to stop and see the roses, smell them, pick them, throw some petals up in the air and enjoy it along the way. I think I’ve finally embraced JOMO. The joy of missing out,” Selena concluded.
US Problems. Sorry for you Guys! Love from Germany wäre you have to Take your Time Out.
Swiss rules: Vacation days do not expire and can only be compensated under certain circumstances. In the worst case your employers should tell you to stay at home to reduce vacation days. Overtime is a different story though.
This isn't US problems. I have been at my job right at one year. I currently have 140 hours of PTO available. I've also taken 3 days plus a few hours with zero questions asked. If I decide to take two weeks tomorrow I'd get it no questions asked. If I took another job offer tomorrow I'd get fully compensated for the time I have on the books.
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Not necessarily. If you have short-termed temporary contracts, no one actually cares. I get 6-month-temporary-contracts and if I don't take my vacation days by the end, they're just gone.
Not under German Labor law: "Im Arbeitsrecht ist nur ein Fall verankert, in dem der Arbeitgeber dem Arbeitnehmer den Urlaub ausbezahlen muss, nämlich bei der Kündigung und wenn nicht mehr genügend Zeit bleibt, den Urlaub noch zu nehmen." (Which roughly translates to: In Labor law there's just one time where the employer must pay the employee remaining free days and that's when the job is terminated and there's not enough time left to use the days off. ) So vacation days do not vanish into thin air. You must get a financial compensation for unused vacation days.
Quite happy that I live in the Netherlands where people don't have to bend, stretch and roll over to get what's your legal right. Funeral of a first degree relative? That's 3 days off. Marriage of a a first degree relative? That's one day off. Want to go on a 4 week vacation? Sure, no one is going to stop you. Want to schedule one unpaid Papa or Mama-day per week? Go ahead.
I agree! Moreover, in Belgium we legally are paid extra for yearly vacation. I am retired now and still get paid extra for 'vacation'.
Ha! I was a manager at a worldwide known lingerie brand. I had to take three days of my own PTO, didn't ask for bereavement pay, when my cousin chose to end their own life. For the funeral and because i was obviously gutted. When I came back I was written up because as my district manager said"a cousin isn't real family". I was so sick to my stomach in that moment, and still in shock and grieving, I couldn't even say anything back.
I'm so sorry to hear that. That is so, so ugly of them. I hope you have been able to heal in some way. And very relieved to see this job is in your past
Oh, how civilized.
I'm in the UK and I believe we have to legally take it. Use it or lose it. I've never been asked why unless it is something like the next day which is usually a medical thing with my son. Thankfully I have a great manager who has 2 rules for me (which work both ways) 1) Our PTO's can't clash and 2) We can call each other but it has to be a major work incident. I can't complain.
Uk here too and we get nagged if we haven’t booked all our holiday in time. If you don’t use it they have to pay you for it so they’re quite keen for you to take your time off. As for justification, why? It’s none of their business! I currently get 32 days a year in top of bank holidays and there’s parental leave, emergency leave, dependents leave, sick leave etc. We work to live, not the other way round.
I just love that you call it holiday, sounds much better than vacation.
US. I currently earn around 22 days a year. Plus we get the major holidays and we also get the week between Christmas and New Years off paid so I really get 29 days plus and I've been here just a year. If I were to have a child get 12 weeks paternal leave. If I were to adopt I'd get paid leave as well. I haven't taken many days but I've never been questioned when I did. Just asked for clarification once on if I was taking a whole or partial day.
US Problems. Sorry for you Guys! Love from Germany wäre you have to Take your Time Out.
Swiss rules: Vacation days do not expire and can only be compensated under certain circumstances. In the worst case your employers should tell you to stay at home to reduce vacation days. Overtime is a different story though.
This isn't US problems. I have been at my job right at one year. I currently have 140 hours of PTO available. I've also taken 3 days plus a few hours with zero questions asked. If I decide to take two weeks tomorrow I'd get it no questions asked. If I took another job offer tomorrow I'd get fully compensated for the time I have on the books.
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
Not necessarily. If you have short-termed temporary contracts, no one actually cares. I get 6-month-temporary-contracts and if I don't take my vacation days by the end, they're just gone.
Not under German Labor law: "Im Arbeitsrecht ist nur ein Fall verankert, in dem der Arbeitgeber dem Arbeitnehmer den Urlaub ausbezahlen muss, nämlich bei der Kündigung und wenn nicht mehr genügend Zeit bleibt, den Urlaub noch zu nehmen." (Which roughly translates to: In Labor law there's just one time where the employer must pay the employee remaining free days and that's when the job is terminated and there's not enough time left to use the days off. ) So vacation days do not vanish into thin air. You must get a financial compensation for unused vacation days.
Quite happy that I live in the Netherlands where people don't have to bend, stretch and roll over to get what's your legal right. Funeral of a first degree relative? That's 3 days off. Marriage of a a first degree relative? That's one day off. Want to go on a 4 week vacation? Sure, no one is going to stop you. Want to schedule one unpaid Papa or Mama-day per week? Go ahead.
I agree! Moreover, in Belgium we legally are paid extra for yearly vacation. I am retired now and still get paid extra for 'vacation'.
Ha! I was a manager at a worldwide known lingerie brand. I had to take three days of my own PTO, didn't ask for bereavement pay, when my cousin chose to end their own life. For the funeral and because i was obviously gutted. When I came back I was written up because as my district manager said"a cousin isn't real family". I was so sick to my stomach in that moment, and still in shock and grieving, I couldn't even say anything back.
I'm so sorry to hear that. That is so, so ugly of them. I hope you have been able to heal in some way. And very relieved to see this job is in your past
Oh, how civilized.
I'm in the UK and I believe we have to legally take it. Use it or lose it. I've never been asked why unless it is something like the next day which is usually a medical thing with my son. Thankfully I have a great manager who has 2 rules for me (which work both ways) 1) Our PTO's can't clash and 2) We can call each other but it has to be a major work incident. I can't complain.
Uk here too and we get nagged if we haven’t booked all our holiday in time. If you don’t use it they have to pay you for it so they’re quite keen for you to take your time off. As for justification, why? It’s none of their business! I currently get 32 days a year in top of bank holidays and there’s parental leave, emergency leave, dependents leave, sick leave etc. We work to live, not the other way round.
I just love that you call it holiday, sounds much better than vacation.
US. I currently earn around 22 days a year. Plus we get the major holidays and we also get the week between Christmas and New Years off paid so I really get 29 days plus and I've been here just a year. If I were to have a child get 12 weeks paternal leave. If I were to adopt I'd get paid leave as well. I haven't taken many days but I've never been questioned when I did. Just asked for clarification once on if I was taking a whole or partial day.