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Philosophers and writers have long debated the roles people have played in influencing the progress of civilization. While Thomas Carlyle, for example, felt that great figures are key to guiding us forward, Leo Tolstoy, on the other hand, was of the belief that no individual can single-handedly steer the course of humanity, no matter what position they held.

Regardless of what the case might be, there are two kinds of people: those who are forgotten and those who live on in our collective memory. In an attempt to figure out if some of the latter are getting undeserved praise, Reddit user TGYHJDFGH made a post on the platform, asking everyone: "What beloved person in history should be hated?" and it was immediately flooded with answers.

But before you scroll down to check them out, I want to make things a little bit more interesting and/or complicated for you. Tell me, can we judge someone's morals after hundreds of years, when the entire cultural landscape has changed course? And where do we draw the line between what we can and cannot accept about someone's personal life if their work has transcended time and allowed countless people to find meaning?

I know, these are pretty tough questions. But humans are walking contradictions and it would be irresponsible to instantly dismiss the legacy of, say, the Founding Fathers or Mother Teresa.

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Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Mother Theresa. My father was a taxi driver in Australia and one of his customers was a man who'd been raised in Mother Theresa's orphanage. He said she beat him terribly. Another user also added: She was obsessed with preventing wartime sexual abuse victims from getting abortions. Her order sold babies. She buddied up to dictators and accepted stolen cash from them. Collected millions in donations and never spent them on her "houses of the poor" which were vermin infested crapholes where people went to die. Refused pain medication for the dying and ill because she believed suffering = being close to god. Had nothing but top of the line medical care for herself.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Ronald Reagan - moved somewhere between 50-80 TRILLION from middle class to upper 1%. Ruined America!

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    Fred L.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He is already hated by lost of people. If the rest would turn on their brains they'd hate him as well.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Woodrow Wilson. Guy was majorly racist, segregated the military, kicked black people out of the government, he screened a KKK movie in the White House and was a strong defender of the KKK. Even for his time he was considered racist

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers PT BARNUM. Most people know but due to the romanticization of The Greatest Showman, people should know that he was a maniac that did an ungodly experiments on living beings, locked people in cages, abused them, and mocked them. All whilst earning pocket from them.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers 8000 comments so it might be here Apparently John Wayne needed to be restrained from assaulting a native American actress in the 70s at the academy awards or something. I think her name was Sacheen Little feather. And Clint Eastwood allegedly was mocking her too.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Andrew Jackson. He’s always presented as the “common man’s president” but he treated the Native American’s terribly . He also had a huge rowdy party and trashed the White House

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Oliver Cromwell Tried to make England a republic, ended up being a king in all but name. Butchered the Irish, banned Christmas and is partially responsible for the puritans (who fled to America after the monarchy was restarted)

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Thomas Edison. I’ll never forgive him for what he did to Tesla.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Pablo Picasso, he was misogynistic and sexually assaulted women

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Bill Cosby. America's dad. Up until those allegations started

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Based on personal experience with Oprah Winfrey at Barnes Municipal Airport on New Years Eve in 1991, I would say it would have to be her. Cosby's private jet brought her and Steadman into the airport under cover of darkness to go to the Cosby estate up North. I watched from the tower and she shoved a lone child out of the way and slammed the door to the limo. All the child wanted was an autograph. Oprah's kindness and compassion was an act. If she didn't get something out of it, she was quite capable of stepping on feelings of a lone child when the cameras were not on her

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Elvis Presley. He groomed a then 14 year old and slept with her while he toured.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Steve Jobs. The way he treated his family is horrible.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Alfred Hitchcock, the guy probably was one of the best filmmakers ever, yes. but it's worth mentioning how much he abused his actors, including sexually harassing Tippi Hedren

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Einstein wasn’t a great guy. Brilliant, sure, but kinda douchy in his personal life. He refused to marry his long time lover for years, even after she got pregnant. The child was assumed to be given up for adoption, but no record has ever been found. He and his wife, Mileva Marić, worked together on their research. People saw them do it. They made jokes about it at parties. He proudly told people that she did all his calculations. They only put his name on their work and he went on to claim all the credit - ignoring any work she had done. Part of their agreement was that she would get the Nobel prize money but he tried to prevent that. She raised two children - one schizophrenic - took care of the house and tutored to bring in extra money because he couldn’t get a job for a long time. He started getting more notoriety and then began an affair with his first cousin. He moved to a different country to be with his new hillbilly mistress. He divorced his wife and quickly married the new, younger model. He had rules she had to abide by, such as leaving the room immediately when told and not expecting or asking for any sort of affection except when necessary for appearances sake. Elsa, his second wife, was dying and he worked nonstop because he didn’t know what to do (I guess). She was basically abandoned her last few months. He cheated on both his wives, numerous times. Ignored his children. Oh - and he was pretty into his second wife’s daughter and thought about marrying her instead.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Charles Dickens had his wife, the mother of his children, committed to an insane asylum so he could run off with a teenage actress. Edit- I have been informed that this wasn't successful, he tried to have the mother of his ten children committed but it didn't work. Which is still quite bad

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Joseph Smith- I grew up LDS and left with my family when I was in junior high. After some reading and learning from historical documents without church bias, I realized how drastically different he was when he wasn’t viewed in the eyes of the church.

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    Fred L.
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Would have never presumed anybody loved him (outside of the LDS of course).

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Churchill. He started the Bengal Famine which killed 3 million people. He also was incredibly racist and liked killing through gas.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Charlie Chaplin definitely. Dude groped/assaulted girls and married a woman 40 years younger than him

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Andy Warhol was a fraud and an abuser. The book Edie is a great read, but sad.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Dr Suess cheated on his partially disabled wife and she eventually committed suicide because of how distraught she was. “I am too old and enmeshed in everything you do and are, that I cannot conceive of life without you,”

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Kinda coming much more into light now but The Founding Fathers, all of them owned slaves and by modern day standards they would be horrible people. But something I think lots of people don’t remember is even if these things are utterly reprehensible, everyone was doing it and they were all children of their time.

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    Darelynn Borg
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    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No every Founding Father owned slaves.

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    Someone Asked "What Beloved Person In History Should Be Hated?", Here Are 23 Eye-Opening Answers Benito Juárez He was the type of president who kills his opposition instead of negotiating. He did a lot of illegal executions. He was going to be executed in Guadalajara, however one of his ministers convinced the soldiers not to kill him with a famous phrase "alto, los valientes no asesinan", the soldiers forgave his life and risked theirs as the disobey an order. Well, as soon as Juarez returned to Mexico city, he immediately ordered to kill all of those soldiers with no mercy (source: my sister worked with the Sargent's descendant) After Juárez's government, there's a period Known as the porfiriato, where Porfirio Díaz was Mexico's president for 30 years. It was possible just because there was no opposition alive Juarez suddenly died in 1872 from a heart attack. It's believed that a woman, to avenge his husband, worked on his home as a maid, and when she had the opportunity, she put an infusion of "veintiunilla'" a herb known by the natives for being poisonous and cause a heart attack 21 days (veintiún dias) after it was drank

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