There are definitely some horrendous inventions we could totally live without.

#1

Nuclear weapons. We now have the power of an apocalypse in the palm of our hands. The best I can hope for, if the bombs fly, is that they land on ME. Cos I wouldn't want to survive in a world after such an event.

But, there is one thing I'm glad about in regards to nuclear weaponry. The reluctance to use them for fear of mutually assured distruction. Send one out, get many back.

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Mobey Drunk
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11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Well, I could easily be a victim of that. I live in a very important shipping port city. I've found out there are missiles pointed directly here from Russia and North Korea.

DC
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11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

... they spared us of the hot version of the cold war. I wouldn't want to live in a world where the simple fact that a war is actually winnable decreases any reluctancy towards beginning one.

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    Warren Peece
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But the reason BP Premium will succeed is because people are paying it.

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    A Night At The Opera
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Pop-Up Ads?" Hah! More like, "POOP-up Ads!" XD

    A Night At The Opera
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Now let's see, 'Hey Pandas, What' Something...'" *pop-up ad for Gucci appears*

    #3

    This healthcare system in America

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    Fire Singer
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can I upvote this more than once???

    #4

    For profit health care.

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    #5

    Vaping/smoking

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    A Night At The Opera
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My Grandpa died 2 years ago because of this. :(

    Andrew Keir
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A textbook case of 'negative externalities' versus 'personal pleasure' and 'corporate profits'. It's good to see so many countries limiting / banning smoking, and one can hope that, in time, vaping will go the same way. Am I alone in seeing a link between 'putting cigarettes on your lips' and a certain sexual practice?

    KatSaidWhat
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I said elsewhere yesterday I have swapped my 4/5 cigarettes a day for most of a vape. It's ridiculous and I am now looking into nicotine free options to wean the way one guy quietly weaned his gf of her massive vape addiction by changing hers to n/f.

    #6

    Guns, speaking as an American

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    Ozymandias73
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Totally agree! Any "fool" can point and aim a gun, even kill someone by accident with one. If all we still had were swords, you'd have to have some skill at least if you were going to try and off someone. More than likely, they'd have one as well and would (hopefully/more than likely for their sake) be trained as well.

    #7

    Religion ... the despicable actions in the name of ...

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    Luke Branwen
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    So if I start doing horrible things in the name of bacon, does it mean bacon is evil and shouldn't exist? Religion isn't the problem, it's the people who use it as an excuse to do horrible things. And if religion didn't exist, they'd just find a different excuse. It'd solve nothing.

    Warren Peece
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The word "religion" literally means "return to bondage".

    #8

    Social media. What started out as a fun way to stay in touch has become a place to argue and insult from behind the digital mask.

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    StrangeOne
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    11 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Tbh, we all have a choice to engage and disengage in conflict. Personally, social media has beneficial factors for those with social anxiety, little to no friends to talk to in real life. I'll put it this way. Some people play video games to escape. Some people like to socialize on social media to escape. It makes me feel less alone but not as drained as talking to groups of people where I tend to get pushed out of the conversation. Plus, I wouldn't have met my bf if it weren't for social media. If someone gets nasty with me I just block them, now, or ignore them. That's not me admitting to anything or being "scared". I just want to enjoy my time on Earth doing what I like.

    Susie Main
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's also, if you care to be selective, a wonderful place to make genuine new friends who share your interests or sense of humour and whom you may even meet in RL - so far I've met in person 1 friend from Poland, 3 from England (I'm in Scotland) and 1 from Australia. We've been friends for years and supported one another through a lot of tough times as well shared the good ones. Means a lot to me as I'm a widow and live alone. Well - if you don't count my crazy dogs!

    KatSaidWhat
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    double edged sword. So much narcissism but a lot more transparency in events too.

    Andrew Keir
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Looking back to the invention of writing, then Gutenberg, every improvement in communication has been resisted at the time by those inconvenienced by the changes it brings. I'm backing humanity against the censors, especially as humanity learns to discriminate between grounded discussion and bot-speak from silos. But today's teenagers are monumentally better informed (if they want to be) than any previous generation, and much more socially adept as well. It's our job to help them become better than we ever were!

    Fun Size
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And now they're all depressed and anxious because of it.

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    #9

    I can't believe I'm saying this. This is going to take a lot out of me. Feeling super torn but it must be said.

    Pointe Shoes

    Pointe shoes weren't always a thing in ballet. But the concept of Charles Didelot's "flying machine", 1785, inspired choreographers, and ballerina, Marie Tiglioni to find a way to have the dancers be up on the tips of their toes without using wires.
    It was Tiglioni who started darning her ballet slippers so that she could obtain this ability.
    It wasn't until later in the 1800s that ballet shoes were made with a flat platform at the toes. Then Russian ballerina, Anna Pavlova customized her shoes so that they were harder and more supportive. Giving way to the pointe shoes of today, which are still evolving.

    My issue with pointe shoes is the concept of them being an integral requirement for a professional ballet dancer. Not every ballet dancer can wear pointe shoes safely, but too many are put in them anyways, but impatient, pushy dance teachers and principals.

    Pointe shoes are a cause of so many short and life long injuries and disfigurements, especially in young girls.

    There is a sexism factor, that usually, mainly it's the female dancers who must endure dancing in pointe shoes. Although, some male dancers do own and dance in pointe shoes, it's not typically a common thing.

    Pointe shoes are not actually all that necessary for ballet. I've seen dancers perform very well in ballet slippers, and I don't really notice too much when I do. If anything, pointe shoes are distracting from the dance and the rest of the dancer. They are loud, look clunky when not en point, and I find there is more emphasis on the pointe work.
    When I watch a performance done on demi pointe, or in ballet slippers, I notice how the dancer moves, the costume, the routine, and not staring at the feet.

    But I do understand the allure, the wonderment and anticipation for pointe shoes. They look lovely, cute and feel different. It's like getting your first pair of high heels.

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    Winter
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And high heels are *just* as bad for women as pointe shoes!! (BTW, I have deformed feet and bad osteoarthritis from dancing en pointe when I was young... but I loved dancing so much at the time that I didn't care about possible future problems and pain... so I just kept on dancing)

    Warren Peece
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes, let's make our bodies do unnatural movements and risk serious injuries to entertain rich snobs. Great idea.

    geezeronthehill
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not to the point, but if female ballet dancers are ballerinas, what do you call a male dancer? A ballerooney?

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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ballerina is actually a title of the top female ballet dancer, or Principal dancers. It doesn't technically apply to all ballet dancers. Despite it being defaulted to anyone who does ballet by the rest of society. A top male ballet dancer, particularly in Italy, is called a Ballerino.

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    Andrew Keir
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    11 months ago

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    Ballet. Oh dear - "For those who like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing that they like".

    #10

    Political parties

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    BeesEelsAndPups
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know how you'd have a modern democracy without political parties. You'd have to personally know every politician's deep beliefs, and they would have no viable way to communicate those to you. I think you could have this if societies got no larger than a few hundred people, but once you're in the thousands, and especially in the millions, you need a short-hand mechanism to understand where people stand on certain issues. I think the difficulty of parties is that after an election, if one party is not in clear control, political alliances are required to form an effective government. And if you have dozens of parties in power, this can be a laborious process. And on the other side, in winner-take-all systems like the USA, it's difficult to have more than 2 parties. This creates parties without clear goals. It is why you can have a party with Nancy Pelosi and Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, in spite of them having radically different views. Two party systems also have polarizing effects

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    Plastic

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    Just Cosmo
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's a good material if we can handle it properly.

    StrangeOne
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's been too widely used as a material for things that were just fine being metal, clay, ceramic, glass, paper and wood.

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    #12

    Kings/queens and priests. There are much better ways to establish a civilization.

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    Just Cosmo
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, it could be argued that religion is one of the reasons that we have civilizations to begin with.

    BeesEelsAndPups
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not at all. Civilization derives from humans settling in larger habitations, than beyond the 50 or so people that you'd find in a hunter-gatherer tribe. This was made possible through agriculture, which pre-dates anything like an organized religion. In order to have large groups of people function, norms had to be established, and eventually they had to be codified in laws. Eventually as inter-city trade expanded, it became useful to use societal markers as a shorthand for people to know who was part of the in-group and who might have a different sets of norms. Organized religion developed as a way of codifying these societal markers. Wearing religious symbols was a great way of telling people "I am from a different city but we hold the same norms". So in that way I would agree that religion was a response to complex civilizations.

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    #13

    The concept of racism and all of the bs that supports it.

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    Andrew Keir
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    We all fear 'the other' - people who are not like us. Skin colour is a clear - though irrelevant - display of 'otherness'. Hate is based on fear, and as the fear is washed away by understanding and familiarity, we will find that the hate goes, too. Then we can consign 'racism' to the history books, as a factor which will have to be explained to rising generations who will not experience it themselves. Rather like the religious wars in Europe that lasted so many centuries... but, today , we are making a start.

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    War, money, and religion

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    Just Cosmo
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is absolutely nothing wrong with religion. What is horrible, rather, are the people who take the opportunity to misuse it.

    Sand Ers
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You mean aside from deliberately damaging children's ability to discern reality from fiction? Religion trains people to reject reality and substitute insistently asserted drivel.

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    #15

    Electric cars. They aren't much more environmentally friendly than petrol and diesel and they're far less useful for long distance drives.
    Battery production
    The mining and processing of minerals for EV batteries has a significant carbon footprint. The production of a single electric car releases almost 4 tonnes of CO2.
    Lithium demand
    The global demand for lithium, also known as "white gold", is expected to increase over 40 times by 2040. Lithium extraction has led to water depletion in the South American Lithium triangle, and there are protests and lawsuits against lithium mining.
    That's just two examples.

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    Deepfake

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    Andrew Keir
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Humans have been facing the use of lying for millennia - and will continue to do so, as long as they retain the ability to communicate. We just have to get better at spotting it, faster than the liars make their lies more convincing. Teach your children well ...

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    Bra underwires

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    StrangeOne
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can't stand it when you go get fitted, and you're bust size is at least a D and you're told "Sorry, but that is the size you have and you need support with an underwire. This is what we're going to show you."

    #18

    Affordable, unregujlated drones.

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    Sand Ers
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    In the US, drones are regulated. The problem is that nobody is willing to enforce the rules. Or implement the new ones that are also needed. Like extending peeping Tom laws to cover them, and extending "expectation of privacy" to cover fenced yards and other areas not reasonably accessible to the general public.

    Andrew Keir
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ah, the wriggle word emerges from its lair. "Reasonably". Which we will find means whatever someone with an expensive lawyer wants it to mean. Of course, I would never support jamming their signals, or shooting the things out of the sky - that would be unreasonable ! But if you want to sunbathe naked in your own back yard, with a high fence , why would anyone try to see you?

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    Gods

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    Andrew Keir
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They were probably invented to balance the use of force as a universal right. Their place has, to some extent, been supplanted by 'Laws'; which can be seen as little gods we have created ourselves. And can change where necessary ...

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    Overworking employees.

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    Bottled Water.

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    Karl der Große
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Bottled water is a hard one. The good - a lot of people with sketchy water supplies rely on it. The bad - tons of waste. There are better materials that will break down, but the expense is currently too high for people in low-income areas to afford.

    StrangeOne
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There are much more sustainable, non-wasteful ways to get clean water. Many African villages are built in-ground water tanks that collect the rain water. Average rain levels are considered. Other options are water wells, water tank drums that can still collect rain water. The plastic water bottles are just a way for companies to capitalize on people's thirst for plain old water.

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    Susie Main
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If it's in glass bottles it's fine by me. Ditto cans. Until 36 months ago I still lived in an an old Croft with just ground seepage well water - which meant NO water in any particularly hot summer. (e.g., Highland Spring Still Water Glass Bottle 12 x 750ml £19.49 Inc VAT)

    TheGreaterDebater
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    Hey dumbass! There are billions of people who would trade the world for a bottle of water!

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    10 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I guess I should have been clearer in my post. I think clean water should be available for free to everyone. I think bottling water in a plastic water bottle to create more waste and to just profit off of people who have no access to clean water is disgusting to me. So, I'm not saying people don't need or want bottled water. I'm saying the whole practice of bottling a natural resource, especially in packaging that causes more issues, is what I disagree with. Or the companies who take advantage during times of crisis (Nestle) and jacking up prices so the average person can't even afford bottled water to get through an emergency. But thanks for the well thought out and well worded response. It made me realize I didn't explain my own position well enough.

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    Marketing algorithms.

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    Andrew Keir
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    With respect, as very few people have much idea exactly what an algorithm does, it's maybe a bit early to start voting them up - or down. I suspect that their benefits or dangers will be more from the databank they are built from, especially if they truly are 'self-educating'. But if they are limited to marketing, we may have dodged a bullet. Would you want to face a legal algorithm at your trial, or would you prefer a jury?

    #23

    Disney. I'm pretty sure Walt Disney just had a knack he really liked and made a company for fun, not realizing how big of a success he founded.

    Course, greed is all the Mouse sees these days. *sigh*

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    Money

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    StrangeOne
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've been pondering this since my teens. My folks didn't get my pov. Other people still don't get it. Money is such a deep-rooted, integral part of society, linked with creations, services, infrastructure, homes, resources, education, health, food, nearly everything in the world. We hold such monetary value in everything we do and have, and in people, that many people just can't fathom a society existing without money. But I look to the animal world. Though some animals do have a trading, bartering, payment system in the form of food, nesting materials, etc, many just live and survive. They do things for each other without expecting some payment. Perhaps some species have a sort of you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours deal going on. Humans are the only species on the planet driven to blow up other people over c**p we find in the Earth's crust that we placed a heavy monetary value on, opinions on who created the universe, and other stupid nonsense that really doesn't matter at all.

    Norma
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If we did away with money tomorrow, what would you do to survive? Now you have to source your own food for you and your family that can't fend for themselves, make your own clothes and shoes, build and maintain your house, etc. There won't be anymore public transportation so we're back to horses and wagons, if you can grow the food and do the foot work and make the traces and/or saddles and build the wagon and maintain it. Oh, and there won't be widespread safe running water, either. Otherwise, you have to have a skill that would allow you to barter for all this. So again, what are you going to do that's worth enough to barter for all the things you can't do?

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    stupidMonkey
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you really think humanity would be better off with a barter system? Having an easily portable symbol of value to facilitate efficient trading of services for things has allowed our species to achieve some truly remarkable advances.

    A Night At The Opera
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's what makes the world go round! (At least to Mr. Krabs)

    Andrew Keir
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Money in small amounts - up to maybe a million dollars or so - can be a 'store of value' allowing saving for old age or a shorter term good. But without it, how could anyone afford a good that takes a craftsperson more than about a week to make? Money is a danger when someone has too much of it; imho that's when governments should step in and confiscate (all right, 'tax') a chunk of it, for everyone else to use. But governments in democracies are easily cowed - and tyrants will take what they want anyway. It's not 'money' but the 'imbalance of money', that's the problem here, I suggest.

    Katie Allen
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if you hate money so much, toss it my way.

    #25

    Artificial intelligence.

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    Stock exchange

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    Andrew Keir
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    H'mmm. Everyone is supportive of firms providing jobs and pay for people, but firms need money to start with and this is provided by offering shares in the profits, and / or bonds promising regular interest on money lent to the company. Stock exchanges facilitate both of these, though unfortunately too many firms are run, not for the benefit of society, not for the benefit of their workers, but for the benefit of top bosses alone - or the shareholders. There does not seem to be a way of correcting this - yet...

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    Cleaners/maskers for urine tests. Pharmacies in my country sell them. Take this "medicine" and certain illegal substances won't show up. There is no reason these should exist.

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    Karl der Große
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your substance use is causing you to do a crappy job at work, your boss should care about your performance. If you are getting high on the weekends but doing a great job during the week - how is that your boss's business?

    DC
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    There is a reason these should exist - the unjustified things that may be done to you because some people diagree with what you do to your body. Every drüg user has every right to cover up with whatever means they get on hand, because it's a private issue. Now, DUI and stuff ... is a different matter. Comes up every time you don't agree to moralizing the cult of sobriety that becomes ever more rampant.

    Sand Ers
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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oy you could, you know, mind your own business.

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    11 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I'm reviewing a case for parental guardianship it is my business.

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