Grandma Says She Can Take Better Care Of Disobedient 14 Y.O. Than Mom, Learns Truth The Hard Way
It’s not unusual for grandparents to interfere in their adult children’s parenting decisions. Many grandparents think that because they already raised their kids, they automatically have the knowledge and skills to deal with today’s teens. According to a C. S. Mott Children’s Hospital survey, 47% of parents and grandparents disagree about what’s best for the grandkids.
When this grandmother claimed to know how to deal with a disobedient 14-year-old better than her daughter-in-law, the mom decided to let the MIL put her money where her mouth was. She asked people whether she was being unreasonable when she refused to pick the daughter up.
A mother was having trouble with her unruly 14-year-old daughter
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Lo and behold, the MIL decided to step in and claimed she could do better, so the mother let her try
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People agreed the woman wasn’t being unreasonable – it was what the grandma asked for
Grandparents are used to giving their children advice, but they need clear boundaries when it comes to unwanted parenting advice
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For grandparents, it makes sense to think they can parent better; they have already raised at least one child. In fact, 50 years ago, the average woman would give birth to five children. Today, this number has lessened by half.
Some grandparents think they know best because they can’t let go of the decision-maker role in the family. Karen Fingerman, who researches relationships between parents and their adult children, told the Atlantic that grandparents are used to telling their kids how to do things from when they were little, and they don’t lose the habit even when the children are well into their adulthood.
“When the kids were babies [they] were telling them, ‘Don’t touch that, honey,’ ‘Don’t cross the street.’ That’s your role as a parent, to tell your kid how to do something better.”
One reason parents get triggered by grandparents saying they’re doing something wrong is that they still long for approval. As parenting expert Susan Stiffelman writes, letting go of the need for a parent’s approval and not taking their criticism personally can help parents a great deal.
Ultimately, parents need to draw clear lines for grandparents on what’s acceptable and what’s not. Bethany Cook, Psy.D., a family systems-oriented therapist in Chicago, told Parents: “A kid needs to know who is in charge in order to feel safe. If they’re getting one message from Mom and a different one from Grandma, it can be not just confusing but destabilizing.”
Parents today also face many new challenges that parents of the past did not
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Quality time with grandparents has a really positive influence on grandkids. They often act as playmates when parents are too busy and are a security blanket for the child. Susan Newman, author of Little Things Mean a Lot: Creating Happy Memories with Your Grandchildren, says it’s a huge plus for children to have someone who is always on their side.
However, when it comes to discipline and a child’s needs, parenting can be a little different from what it was like 20 or 30 years ago. Data shows that both mothers and fathers spend more time with their children than ever before. This is particularly interesting, keeping in mind that, in many households, both parents work.
The concerns of parents today differ from those of parents in the 1980s. Back then, parents worried about their kids’ physical safety the most. Today, mental health is the top priority for many parents. A 2023 Pew survey shows that 43% of parents worry their children might be struggling with anxiety, have depression, or are being bullied.
Parents, and especially mothers, feel increasing pressure to be hands-on. Sarah Ockwell-Smith, British author of parenting and childcare books, writes how women have to excel at their jobs and be perfect mothers. “They are expected to work like they don’t have children and parent like they don’t have a job.”
So, perhaps grandparents don’t actually know best. They didn’t parent their kids in the digital age, where screen time and online safety were major worries. A little more understanding should go both ways: parents might try to understand that grandparents are coming from a good place, and grandparents should admit they’re not very well-versed in today’s parenting and trust their adult children’s parenting decisions.
The mother later posted an update about what happened when the parents picked the 14 Y.O. up
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As no other family members agreed to watch her, people said that the teen probably understood she was the problem
People delighted in how the mother dealt with both her disobedient daughter and the entitled MIL
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Grandma "I am a better mum". Also Grandma "get her out of here, I need a smoke" HAHAHA. And yes, I love that guy too LOL.
That last comment about getting sideswiped made me genuinely lol. Daughter FAFO - nobody going to put up with her sh1t so she's about to grow up a little.
I was just getting ready to comment about that last comment too. lol was the best one on the post. Atleast of the ones that BP shared. I didn’t actually read the OP or all of it’s comments lol
Load More Replies...I'm stuck on the phrasing here: "Took her vape away." That phrasing implies that this child has a vape that people see as "hers," and that the taking of it was part of a punishment. What the hell? Amongst good parents, I'd like to think the phrasing would be, "I found out she had gotten a vape and I destroyed it."
Almost surely semantics. They didn't give that back to her, come on. Taking something away doesn't imply that it was temporary. Also, just because she shouldn't have something doesn't mean that it wasn't hers. It was, but it isn't anymore. This is a hell of a thing to make a thing about my goodness you must give people hell over words and terms where common usage applies for example. Insufferable.
Load More Replies...Not related to the article, but the comments section: the Bored Panda account is so tone deaf it's clearly being run by AI. Who in Bored Panda's staff thought this was a good idea?
I was wondering if it was a person pretending to be AI.
Load More Replies...Why do all the comments 'Bored Panda' posts leave me feeling like some AI bot is trying to lead a group therapy workshop? Initiated by stating a positive reinforcing comment to a previous comment, followed up with 'what are your thoughts' questions, while trying to illicit an open ended dialogue touching on the deeper points of the original posts? Mindfulness Panda Workshop 101 (my apologies if I've offended anyone who enjoys this)
Ah, you have discovered the secret... people aren't all the same, and the commenters in the bored panda are not going to be like the ones from FunnyJunk, or 9gag, or Izismile., plus your comment is the most AI stlye I have seen lately.
Load More Replies...Flashback. I struggled with my step daughter and mistakenly turned to my MIL for help. Same scenario: i raised kids ( boys) , you are doing it wrong. Same solution offered: MIL will raise her, etc. Lasted one month. I never got apology from MIL but i did get a " you were right" from FIL.
I tested my limits with my mom when I was 11. Ii decided that I was bigger and tougher than she was. I ended up flat on my back, on the kitchen floor with mom sitting on me. The takedown was swift and merciless. I wasn't hurt. No physical injuries. Only thing injured was my pride.
I was a teenager while my mom was in the midst of menopause. It was.... a perfect storm. Dad used to run for cover daily and try to warn brother.
Load More Replies...To answer Starry Gecko above, yes, there are THC vaping oils.
Kudos to the parents! Sometimes lessons are only learned the hard way. There's one thing though: the vape. That should absolutely go or else she runs the risk of having bad lungns before she turns 25.
I'm pretty sure it went. And now that Mom's onto it, keeping future ones secret won't be so easy.
Load More Replies...I'm just pleasantly surprised af that not only did OP's hubby agree with her, he stood up to his mother! You don't read a whole bunch of that happening in the vast majority of these AITA's and it's awesome to see
No d***s are good for a kid. Probably part of her problem. D***s, including alcohol and weed, have a place in adult society, but not for kids.
This story generated the most comments I have ever seen on this web site. One thing we can all agree on: parenting is NOT a cake walk. I have been a parent, 1 son. He is an adult now. I have never been a parent to a daughter. I am not a grandma nor an MIL. I hope I would have the good sense that so long as my son and his future wife are not performing child abuse on their children, I would keep my mouth shut about their parenting. Because I have been a mother and worked full time. It was not easy. And that was in the 90s.
Yup, the daughter got a second and even fourth and fifth opinion that she's annoying the eff out of her family. I'm glad the OP is going to check into counselling. My only concern is how good the guidance counsellor is regarding psychological help. My brother had a very good one. Mine was pleasant, but not the best communicator.
It doesn't sound like the kid is a list cause she is still so young, as long as all the adults in her life can get on the same page she has more than enough time to turn things around.
Load More Replies...I think this all played out well. But now the tough love needs to come with compassion and understanding. Sometimes these behaviours come from low self esteem. Now with everyone "not wanting to look after her" she's going to think no one loves her. Her behaviour will get worse. Find a way to connect. She's not going to readily talk but maybe some of her punishment can be to assist you with cooking or do a home project together. You might have the opportunity to break some barriers when doing an activity together. And remind her that she is loved but the behaviour is not
Seems like they are going to speak with her school to see about professional help.
Load More Replies...I'm glad grandma saw the light and the OPs husband and extended family backed her up. Also, it's good to hear they're going to get their daughter some councilling as this seems a bit beyond the normal teen rebelliousnous and into complete lack of repect for her family members; even her own loving grandma.
Logical and natural consequences, for both daughter and grandmother. Way to go!
Good on the parents for setting boundaries and enforcing consequences for their bratty kid. Too many parents just shrug it off, but it sounds like these ones are actually invested in their child's success
I have a few friends who were absolute sh*theads as children. But they all had parents that were both loving and kind, and wouldn't put up with any nonsense (because going to far the other way causes just as many problems). And now they are all well adjusted adults with good jobs and families and hobbies. If you can get the kind/hard balance right you will do right by your kids.
Load More Replies...Grandma interfered and found out what a little b***h she is being and wants Mama to come get her the next day. Grandma got what she asked for! As for Tamara, I don't care if she is 14 she's not to old for an a*s beating for the behavior, smoking and skipping school. If I had done anything like that at 14 my Mama would have knocked me into the next decade.
My 13 year old daughter also called her grandparents when she had things taken away and was grounded and my parents (who heavily contributed to the struggles I had parenting 13 due to a complete disregard for boundaries) came immediately over after I told them no, to get their granddaughter because they always said she “needs a break from me/siblings” and I said absolutely no way she’s going and having a little vacay at grandma’s instead of the appropriate consequences of her behaviour at home. My parents screamed in my face for two hours , threatening to call the police if I didn’t hand over 13, scaring 3 & 6 year old grandchildren and tried to break in the door. After that I said we were taking a break from them and they FILED A LAWSUIT demanding forced visitation with 13 that would be the equivalent of 50% custody..the clincher? I had just started chemotherapy the week prior. Grandparents should SUPPORT the parenting of their kids not sabotage it at every opportunity. Bad People
HA! Exact same thing happened to my mom with my oldest. She let him do whatever he wanted. Never said no. Always harped on me for being "too harsh" with him. Until my brother got married at my parents house. My oldest, then around 4, constantly followed my mom around and annoyed the s**t out of her for hours and hours. When she whined to me about him being "uncontrollable" I told her "What did you expect? YOU are the one that taught him this sort of behavior is okay." I've never seen her scowl so hard before. But you better believe she quit the "mommy is so mean" nonsense after that.
Go mom for putting daughter AND grandma in place in a way that hurt nobody. Go hubby for having his wife's back and sticking to his guns. And go son for getting to help with the birth of a colt. What a cool experience! All in all I love what a good ending this had for everyone involved. And yes, I do consider Tamara as getting a good ending. Her family taught her a valuable lesson and still loved her in the end. AND she might be getting counseling.
I raised mine I don’t tell the kids how to raise theirs and the only advice I give the grandkids rising theirs it to trust their instincts. As a mom natural consequences were the norm. Actions have consequences, words have consequences.
I wonder if THC isn't her only vape. A lot of this sounds like jonesing and withdrawing behaviour.
A friend did the same for her poor grandson except he actually came to live with her. She also found out the hard truth. He was much more of a delinquent. It sounds like Mom & son had a wonderful drama-free week at the other grandparents. Win for them!
I really can't say much about vaping nicotine though, especially when I started smoking cigarettes at 15 back in the mid 90s. I didn't get caught until I was 18 back in 98 and was told by my dad that he rather see me smoking than drinking anyday and that he would had never done anything if I told him when I started smoking at 15 due to peer pressure.(Got threatened to get 7 more stitches or smoke by my best friend at the time). I just wished that my kids never started vaping nicotine when they were younger cause the effects is a lot more harsh with vaping than smoking and can cause lung cancer a lot quicker than smoking and gum disease. I won't vape nicotine I tried it's too harsh and plus I have heart disease and gum disease within the past 5yrs on gum disease and 3 yrs being diagnosed with Heart disease. I'm just 44 and no I never dipped or chewed tobacco in my life and I do have lung problems ever since I had a trake in my throat back 3yrs ago when I took too much delta 8 oil....
Yes weed vape is a thing... I have had those myself. BUT more than likely the daughter had a delta 8 vape, which is legal in most states and easier to get a hold of. Where I live weed is still illegal and it's harder to get a hold of those kind of vapes unless you live in a state that has weed legal. My friend had to go to NY to get weed vapes for me and a few others due to being legal in NY. If she tried to ordered it online they would not mail it if she lives in a state that it's illegal unlike delta 8, they do ship that to any state that has delta 8 legal. I used to order delta 8 online when my friend hasnt been to NY recently. It's really easy for kids to buy delta 8 at gas stations, that's how my 16yr old daughter's 17yr old friend gets his. Unfortunately my 16yr old vapes flavor nicotine, thanks to her idiot dad that lives in a different state than us getting her on vaping nicotine at 14 plus her older sister that's 21 vapes nicotine too. Thanks to her dad when she was 13🙄
Why are they letting her vape weed or otherwise??? Have they not seen all the kids hooked up to ventilators or flat out dying because of vaping??? They need to put a stop to that ASAP!!!
I don't think they let her. She just gets access to them somehow. Probably from a friend at school or something.
Load More Replies...Why in the world do they allow a 14 year old to vape anything? Do some homework parents. Teenage girls are a world of difference from teen boys. Hopefully the experience hasn't destroyed the relationship they had before.
They obviously aren't "allowing"it, as they keep taking her vapes away
Load More Replies...Looks like BOTH Granny & Precious Grandlamb got a learning experience. And as for the Boomer remarks: SWEETY, GRANDBABY IS SIMPLY FOLLOWING IN GRANDPA & GRANDMA'S OLD COUNTERCULTURE 'HIPPY-DIPPY' ACT! Take it from a pair of old Baby Boomers who lived through the scheissen & were the nerdy 'oddmen out'!
The only concern I would have is about the daughter's actual safety with a grandmother not prepared to effectively manage her behavior. Many teens have zero judgement and actually put themselves at risk if not prevented. However, this girl did not seem terribly out of control and her grandmom stepped up to the plate pretty well, if not happily. So, yes, it was probably a good move, clarified the situation, and eased any future similar issues. Just also, approach your teen with love as well as firmness. She needs it and will sense love and affection even at her most infuriating.
If your teenager never thinks you're an AH, you're probably not doing it right. That doesn't mean to be one, but the vast majority are gonna push those boundaries, if you don't push back or at least stand your ground things can spin out of control quickly. Obviously some kids are more challenging than others so one size doesn't fit all, but kids allowed to run their own show all the time can be in a life changing situation in no time. And it's usually not a good change. Sometimes being a good parent makes us the bad guy.
I wonder what's up with the daughter. Obviously NTA to the mom, but this is not normal teenager behavior. I wonder if there is something underlying because a fourteen-year-old should not be acting like this.
That's a legitimate concern and should definitely be explored; but I wouldn't say this isn't "normal teenager behavior ". Even if there were such a thing, teenagers are mostly human and no 2 humans are exactly alike. I don't know if you have daughters; I have 3 of them and 3 sisters. In my experience the most obnoxious creature on earth is a girl between 12 and 14. I'll say it about myself, but I knew better than to pretend that I was the boss. Lots of eye-rolling as I left the room and other rebel behavior. I'd already seen my mom back my sister completely around the kitchen for getting too big for her britches. I didn't want any of that.
Load More Replies...I think it should have been the op that made more consequences when the daughter came home and not the dad. I think daughter seems to think she can get away with being like that around mom and nit with dad based on ops comments that she doesn't behave like that when he's around. I say this as a former 14yo girl who definitely tried this with my own mom when dad was away. I always viewed dad as the disciplinary one. I need to emphasise the tried part because I soon found out my mom was acrually the stricter parent!
Congratulations on giving up your child in a HEARTBEAT! She's gonna remember that for the rest of her life. She's also going to remember that you refused to take her back, that you delayed. All kids go through a s****y phase. But this post fails to mention the circumstances of her life. I absolutely do not believe a post weighted like this is the entire story. I bet there's a decent chance the parents are ignoring the kid's needs or interests or beliefs and imposing their world view and expectations in an intolerant fashion. This sounds like a Karen weighing a story to make her sound like the champion against her MIL and daughter...
I understand your point, and I don't doubt that the daughter will paint herself a victim. I also don't think there's anything wrong with what this entire family did. 14 is plenty old enough to understand that if you're unpleasant, rude, disrespectful and no one wants to be around you, you're probably the problem. Your parents have to suffer your obnoxious personality to a point. No one else has to including extended family. No one is giving up on this girl. Quite the opposite. It's Cause and Effect Parenting and used firmly, fairly, with love and without coddling, is very effective. It's one of the best ways for kids to learn how the world outside their door works with the presence of the safety net of home and unconditional love from parents.
Load More Replies...Grandma "I am a better mum". Also Grandma "get her out of here, I need a smoke" HAHAHA. And yes, I love that guy too LOL.
That last comment about getting sideswiped made me genuinely lol. Daughter FAFO - nobody going to put up with her sh1t so she's about to grow up a little.
I was just getting ready to comment about that last comment too. lol was the best one on the post. Atleast of the ones that BP shared. I didn’t actually read the OP or all of it’s comments lol
Load More Replies...I'm stuck on the phrasing here: "Took her vape away." That phrasing implies that this child has a vape that people see as "hers," and that the taking of it was part of a punishment. What the hell? Amongst good parents, I'd like to think the phrasing would be, "I found out she had gotten a vape and I destroyed it."
Almost surely semantics. They didn't give that back to her, come on. Taking something away doesn't imply that it was temporary. Also, just because she shouldn't have something doesn't mean that it wasn't hers. It was, but it isn't anymore. This is a hell of a thing to make a thing about my goodness you must give people hell over words and terms where common usage applies for example. Insufferable.
Load More Replies...Not related to the article, but the comments section: the Bored Panda account is so tone deaf it's clearly being run by AI. Who in Bored Panda's staff thought this was a good idea?
I was wondering if it was a person pretending to be AI.
Load More Replies...Why do all the comments 'Bored Panda' posts leave me feeling like some AI bot is trying to lead a group therapy workshop? Initiated by stating a positive reinforcing comment to a previous comment, followed up with 'what are your thoughts' questions, while trying to illicit an open ended dialogue touching on the deeper points of the original posts? Mindfulness Panda Workshop 101 (my apologies if I've offended anyone who enjoys this)
Ah, you have discovered the secret... people aren't all the same, and the commenters in the bored panda are not going to be like the ones from FunnyJunk, or 9gag, or Izismile., plus your comment is the most AI stlye I have seen lately.
Load More Replies...Flashback. I struggled with my step daughter and mistakenly turned to my MIL for help. Same scenario: i raised kids ( boys) , you are doing it wrong. Same solution offered: MIL will raise her, etc. Lasted one month. I never got apology from MIL but i did get a " you were right" from FIL.
I tested my limits with my mom when I was 11. Ii decided that I was bigger and tougher than she was. I ended up flat on my back, on the kitchen floor with mom sitting on me. The takedown was swift and merciless. I wasn't hurt. No physical injuries. Only thing injured was my pride.
I was a teenager while my mom was in the midst of menopause. It was.... a perfect storm. Dad used to run for cover daily and try to warn brother.
Load More Replies...To answer Starry Gecko above, yes, there are THC vaping oils.
Kudos to the parents! Sometimes lessons are only learned the hard way. There's one thing though: the vape. That should absolutely go or else she runs the risk of having bad lungns before she turns 25.
I'm pretty sure it went. And now that Mom's onto it, keeping future ones secret won't be so easy.
Load More Replies...I'm just pleasantly surprised af that not only did OP's hubby agree with her, he stood up to his mother! You don't read a whole bunch of that happening in the vast majority of these AITA's and it's awesome to see
No d***s are good for a kid. Probably part of her problem. D***s, including alcohol and weed, have a place in adult society, but not for kids.
This story generated the most comments I have ever seen on this web site. One thing we can all agree on: parenting is NOT a cake walk. I have been a parent, 1 son. He is an adult now. I have never been a parent to a daughter. I am not a grandma nor an MIL. I hope I would have the good sense that so long as my son and his future wife are not performing child abuse on their children, I would keep my mouth shut about their parenting. Because I have been a mother and worked full time. It was not easy. And that was in the 90s.
Yup, the daughter got a second and even fourth and fifth opinion that she's annoying the eff out of her family. I'm glad the OP is going to check into counselling. My only concern is how good the guidance counsellor is regarding psychological help. My brother had a very good one. Mine was pleasant, but not the best communicator.
It doesn't sound like the kid is a list cause she is still so young, as long as all the adults in her life can get on the same page she has more than enough time to turn things around.
Load More Replies...I think this all played out well. But now the tough love needs to come with compassion and understanding. Sometimes these behaviours come from low self esteem. Now with everyone "not wanting to look after her" she's going to think no one loves her. Her behaviour will get worse. Find a way to connect. She's not going to readily talk but maybe some of her punishment can be to assist you with cooking or do a home project together. You might have the opportunity to break some barriers when doing an activity together. And remind her that she is loved but the behaviour is not
Seems like they are going to speak with her school to see about professional help.
Load More Replies...I'm glad grandma saw the light and the OPs husband and extended family backed her up. Also, it's good to hear they're going to get their daughter some councilling as this seems a bit beyond the normal teen rebelliousnous and into complete lack of repect for her family members; even her own loving grandma.
Logical and natural consequences, for both daughter and grandmother. Way to go!
Good on the parents for setting boundaries and enforcing consequences for their bratty kid. Too many parents just shrug it off, but it sounds like these ones are actually invested in their child's success
I have a few friends who were absolute sh*theads as children. But they all had parents that were both loving and kind, and wouldn't put up with any nonsense (because going to far the other way causes just as many problems). And now they are all well adjusted adults with good jobs and families and hobbies. If you can get the kind/hard balance right you will do right by your kids.
Load More Replies...Grandma interfered and found out what a little b***h she is being and wants Mama to come get her the next day. Grandma got what she asked for! As for Tamara, I don't care if she is 14 she's not to old for an a*s beating for the behavior, smoking and skipping school. If I had done anything like that at 14 my Mama would have knocked me into the next decade.
My 13 year old daughter also called her grandparents when she had things taken away and was grounded and my parents (who heavily contributed to the struggles I had parenting 13 due to a complete disregard for boundaries) came immediately over after I told them no, to get their granddaughter because they always said she “needs a break from me/siblings” and I said absolutely no way she’s going and having a little vacay at grandma’s instead of the appropriate consequences of her behaviour at home. My parents screamed in my face for two hours , threatening to call the police if I didn’t hand over 13, scaring 3 & 6 year old grandchildren and tried to break in the door. After that I said we were taking a break from them and they FILED A LAWSUIT demanding forced visitation with 13 that would be the equivalent of 50% custody..the clincher? I had just started chemotherapy the week prior. Grandparents should SUPPORT the parenting of their kids not sabotage it at every opportunity. Bad People
HA! Exact same thing happened to my mom with my oldest. She let him do whatever he wanted. Never said no. Always harped on me for being "too harsh" with him. Until my brother got married at my parents house. My oldest, then around 4, constantly followed my mom around and annoyed the s**t out of her for hours and hours. When she whined to me about him being "uncontrollable" I told her "What did you expect? YOU are the one that taught him this sort of behavior is okay." I've never seen her scowl so hard before. But you better believe she quit the "mommy is so mean" nonsense after that.
Go mom for putting daughter AND grandma in place in a way that hurt nobody. Go hubby for having his wife's back and sticking to his guns. And go son for getting to help with the birth of a colt. What a cool experience! All in all I love what a good ending this had for everyone involved. And yes, I do consider Tamara as getting a good ending. Her family taught her a valuable lesson and still loved her in the end. AND she might be getting counseling.
I raised mine I don’t tell the kids how to raise theirs and the only advice I give the grandkids rising theirs it to trust their instincts. As a mom natural consequences were the norm. Actions have consequences, words have consequences.
I wonder if THC isn't her only vape. A lot of this sounds like jonesing and withdrawing behaviour.
A friend did the same for her poor grandson except he actually came to live with her. She also found out the hard truth. He was much more of a delinquent. It sounds like Mom & son had a wonderful drama-free week at the other grandparents. Win for them!
I really can't say much about vaping nicotine though, especially when I started smoking cigarettes at 15 back in the mid 90s. I didn't get caught until I was 18 back in 98 and was told by my dad that he rather see me smoking than drinking anyday and that he would had never done anything if I told him when I started smoking at 15 due to peer pressure.(Got threatened to get 7 more stitches or smoke by my best friend at the time). I just wished that my kids never started vaping nicotine when they were younger cause the effects is a lot more harsh with vaping than smoking and can cause lung cancer a lot quicker than smoking and gum disease. I won't vape nicotine I tried it's too harsh and plus I have heart disease and gum disease within the past 5yrs on gum disease and 3 yrs being diagnosed with Heart disease. I'm just 44 and no I never dipped or chewed tobacco in my life and I do have lung problems ever since I had a trake in my throat back 3yrs ago when I took too much delta 8 oil....
Yes weed vape is a thing... I have had those myself. BUT more than likely the daughter had a delta 8 vape, which is legal in most states and easier to get a hold of. Where I live weed is still illegal and it's harder to get a hold of those kind of vapes unless you live in a state that has weed legal. My friend had to go to NY to get weed vapes for me and a few others due to being legal in NY. If she tried to ordered it online they would not mail it if she lives in a state that it's illegal unlike delta 8, they do ship that to any state that has delta 8 legal. I used to order delta 8 online when my friend hasnt been to NY recently. It's really easy for kids to buy delta 8 at gas stations, that's how my 16yr old daughter's 17yr old friend gets his. Unfortunately my 16yr old vapes flavor nicotine, thanks to her idiot dad that lives in a different state than us getting her on vaping nicotine at 14 plus her older sister that's 21 vapes nicotine too. Thanks to her dad when she was 13🙄
Why are they letting her vape weed or otherwise??? Have they not seen all the kids hooked up to ventilators or flat out dying because of vaping??? They need to put a stop to that ASAP!!!
I don't think they let her. She just gets access to them somehow. Probably from a friend at school or something.
Load More Replies...Why in the world do they allow a 14 year old to vape anything? Do some homework parents. Teenage girls are a world of difference from teen boys. Hopefully the experience hasn't destroyed the relationship they had before.
They obviously aren't "allowing"it, as they keep taking her vapes away
Load More Replies...Looks like BOTH Granny & Precious Grandlamb got a learning experience. And as for the Boomer remarks: SWEETY, GRANDBABY IS SIMPLY FOLLOWING IN GRANDPA & GRANDMA'S OLD COUNTERCULTURE 'HIPPY-DIPPY' ACT! Take it from a pair of old Baby Boomers who lived through the scheissen & were the nerdy 'oddmen out'!
The only concern I would have is about the daughter's actual safety with a grandmother not prepared to effectively manage her behavior. Many teens have zero judgement and actually put themselves at risk if not prevented. However, this girl did not seem terribly out of control and her grandmom stepped up to the plate pretty well, if not happily. So, yes, it was probably a good move, clarified the situation, and eased any future similar issues. Just also, approach your teen with love as well as firmness. She needs it and will sense love and affection even at her most infuriating.
If your teenager never thinks you're an AH, you're probably not doing it right. That doesn't mean to be one, but the vast majority are gonna push those boundaries, if you don't push back or at least stand your ground things can spin out of control quickly. Obviously some kids are more challenging than others so one size doesn't fit all, but kids allowed to run their own show all the time can be in a life changing situation in no time. And it's usually not a good change. Sometimes being a good parent makes us the bad guy.
I wonder what's up with the daughter. Obviously NTA to the mom, but this is not normal teenager behavior. I wonder if there is something underlying because a fourteen-year-old should not be acting like this.
That's a legitimate concern and should definitely be explored; but I wouldn't say this isn't "normal teenager behavior ". Even if there were such a thing, teenagers are mostly human and no 2 humans are exactly alike. I don't know if you have daughters; I have 3 of them and 3 sisters. In my experience the most obnoxious creature on earth is a girl between 12 and 14. I'll say it about myself, but I knew better than to pretend that I was the boss. Lots of eye-rolling as I left the room and other rebel behavior. I'd already seen my mom back my sister completely around the kitchen for getting too big for her britches. I didn't want any of that.
Load More Replies...I think it should have been the op that made more consequences when the daughter came home and not the dad. I think daughter seems to think she can get away with being like that around mom and nit with dad based on ops comments that she doesn't behave like that when he's around. I say this as a former 14yo girl who definitely tried this with my own mom when dad was away. I always viewed dad as the disciplinary one. I need to emphasise the tried part because I soon found out my mom was acrually the stricter parent!
Congratulations on giving up your child in a HEARTBEAT! She's gonna remember that for the rest of her life. She's also going to remember that you refused to take her back, that you delayed. All kids go through a s****y phase. But this post fails to mention the circumstances of her life. I absolutely do not believe a post weighted like this is the entire story. I bet there's a decent chance the parents are ignoring the kid's needs or interests or beliefs and imposing their world view and expectations in an intolerant fashion. This sounds like a Karen weighing a story to make her sound like the champion against her MIL and daughter...
I understand your point, and I don't doubt that the daughter will paint herself a victim. I also don't think there's anything wrong with what this entire family did. 14 is plenty old enough to understand that if you're unpleasant, rude, disrespectful and no one wants to be around you, you're probably the problem. Your parents have to suffer your obnoxious personality to a point. No one else has to including extended family. No one is giving up on this girl. Quite the opposite. It's Cause and Effect Parenting and used firmly, fairly, with love and without coddling, is very effective. It's one of the best ways for kids to learn how the world outside their door works with the presence of the safety net of home and unconditional love from parents.
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