Man Is Surprised That His Co-Workers Constantly Come To Work Early, Shames Them About It After Realizing Why
Being a parent is in no way an easy task. Especially in the mornings when things can get pretty chaotic. That’s why some people try to get out of this part of parenting responsibilities.
Redditor u/VintageHilda told the ‘Child Free’ community about her husband’s co-workers constantly coming to work early. She had a feeling they might be fathers avoiding getting their kids ready for school. That’s why when the group started teasing her husband about being child-free, he had a comeback ready.
Some parents and child-free people have different routines when it comes to work as well
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This man’s co-workers would come to work early, which made him wonder why
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School mornings seem to be the most stressful time of the day for the majority of parents
As rewarding as it is, parenting can be equally stressful at times, and understandably so. Kids are not always the most cooperative of people, especially if it’s something they’re not very keen on doing. Waking up in the morning, for instance, or getting ready for school, which not all children are very excited about.
That’s why the early hours of the day can get especially hectic. A survey of parents of school-aged children in the US revealed that nearly 60% of them find school mornings to be the most stressful time of the day. Hardly anyone likes being stressed out, so it’s not surprising that some people try to avoid it if they can. Even if that means spending more time at work, for instance.
The men in the redditor’s story all seemed to be fathers, which led to the OP’s conclusion that they’re running away from the morning-time responsibilities. Such a hunch is not totally unfounded, as surveys reveal that moms are typically more involved in childcare. According to Pew Research Center, in an average week, mothers spend twice as much time with kids as fathers. In addition to that, 46% of the latter admit it themselves that they don’t spend enough time with their offspring.
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Some fathers only look forward to the beautiful moments but are not willing to deal with the stressful ones
Even though every family is different, a lot of redditors in the comments pointed out that some men become fathers, but often fail to cover all that it entails. Commentators gave different examples, from emphasizing their lack of enthusiasm in participation in raising children to not using all the time off work they’re offered as a parent. Another survey by Pew Research Center uncovered that 39% of mothers have taken a significant amount of time off work to care for a child or other family member while only 24% of dads have done the same.
Some redditors shamed the type of men who can’t wait to become fathers but leave most of the responsibilities to their partners the second they do. Others applauded the OP’s husband for the way he handled the situation after his co-workers started teasing him about being child-free. As a matter of fact, nearly 22% of Americans choose to be child-free, according to 2022 data.
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The OP revealed more information in the comments
Redditors applauded the husband’s reply and shared their views on the situation
The guys in the story were far from the only ones, as people in the comments made clear
So much stereotyping. Personally when my daughter was very young, I'd rush home from work to spend time with her. Still spend every minute I can with her. Don't jump on the manbashing bandwagon, prejudging a demographic based on a stereotype has a name, pre-judice.
Yeah. It was irritating that many of the comments inferred “most men”. I don’t think so. I understand wanting some alone time, but not to that extent.
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Wtf even is this post? My dad was always early for work because my school started before his shift at work did. So he'd take me to school in the mornings and then go straight to the office because going back home after dropping me off would be a waste of both time and fuel. I'd argue dads are earlier at work than childfree folks specifically BECAUSE they're helping with the school rush in the mornings.
That's exactly where my thoughts went too. My dad was the one who got my and siblings up and to school in the morning, as well as being the one to make our packed lunches. Granted he was late home in the evenings, but certainly not because he was avoiding bath time, but because that's just how his shift timing worked. And given that he did all the morning parenting, I'd say he was carrying his weight, even if he did miss bath time.
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Week barely started and our first post is the good old man-bashing. Just the usual, is it, BP?
People have to push into other people's lives. I have a huge family, my wife is shaking her head and laughing about this. OP, and nosey Honey need to get a life.
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Well done to the OP as they managed to draw an epic out of sentence their partner said to some colleagues. Look out for future stories of when they opened the door to a delivery driver one, and the time they waved to a friend across the street.
Lots of judgment here. Male bonding time - necessary as much as female bonding time. Based upon morning breakfast, you determine that they are poor parents? That’s b******t.
So when do their wives get female bonding time, then?
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I might be in the minority here, but the OP comes across as a judgemental ah. Why do you even care if they come in early? Or about their status? I go to work and l couldn't care less if the rest are doing more or less or what they talk about.
DEFINITELY not in the minority. They've been a little quiet lately, but there's a cadre of BP content-providers who absolutely hate men. I don't recognize this one as being one of them.
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What the... I knew it was something about parenthood so my first though was "oh i see, they come to work early so that they can leave early and be with their kids", not "typical men, avoiding childcare". And ultimately we don't know. You are just guessing and being an a*s. Maybe approach this in a good faith first?
Also, afaik school usually starts sooner than office job working hours? Parents get up early, get the kids ready, drop them off... and may still arrive at work before childless colleagues if the school starts at 8 and the job starts at 9 (which would be typical where I live)
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I always did bath and bed time, it was my time to spend with my son as I was at the office and my wife was a SAHM. Now she works full time as well but I have been working from home since the pandemic, I now get our son ready for school and take him and pick him up. I used to go in early for more practical reasons such a less traffic on the road and I can get stuff done without being interrupted. But I do know some dads who do as little as possible
I didn't use my parental allowance either. Why? Because the £100 (or whatever it was) a week didn't cover the wage I lost. It's OK lambasting people for working, but we do it to pay bills and maintain a roof over our heads. Hell, I held down TWO jobs because my (now ex) didn't want to work (and has never worked since). Ironically her mother shared the same condescending attitude which I read here "BUT YOU'RE MISSING YOUR CHILD GROW UP!" - I know, but what option did I have? You can't have both...
I have to say my husband is an EXCELLENT dad. He sits and does bathtime, he always does bed time, he does do his part, He starts work at 7:30 am three times a week, but still uses two days to take my daughter to school each week, which he bartered before he took the role. This post has annoyed me.
My husband did that and would nap in his work van during the day. Needless to say, I was livid after getting up several times a night for several months with our kid. Sadly, he never really changed.
Why is it anyone's business why they come in early and eat? Certainly isn't OP's or her husband's business. Why don't you worry about your own family and keep your nose out of others. More virtue signaling idiots.
The post literally said the guys who got there early were teasing OPs hubby for not having kids. They instigated. Lol. Maybe they need to mind their own business and figure out why they're in denial.
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I almost wish this WAS a dreaded AITA post, so I could scream, "YES!!!"
Enough with the man-hating already, BP. I get to work early because I drop my son off to school, and it doesn't make sense to drive 20 minutes home, and ten minutes later drive 20 minutes back.
Ok, so anyone referring to their husband as my Honey. Has now become my enemy #1. And now on to the obvious stupidity in the room. The OP, and her nosey 'Honey', can suck it. Every parent has their own way of dealing with the stress, and pride they have in being a parent. I have 6. And it I have the greatest sense of pride. But, any parent, and even a child know some days you need a time out. The breakfast club father's, aren't looking for a way to get out of getting their kids to work, they are getting out of the way. All families have certain tasks that parents split. You don't know what these proud Fathers do in the weekends, or evenings. Does Nosey and Honey even have kids? Do you know the stress? If I didn't get out of my partners way, while doing a chosen parental tasks, I would be knocked down. Mind your business OP. When you are a parent, and Honey understands shared parenting at home. Give your thoughts, until.. maybe you and Honey should get a hobby.
My father was the one who came to Parent/Teacher conferences, my school plays, took me to the doctor, etc. My mother was the one who didn't have time for me (although she did invest in my older sister 🤔) so I know that there's good fathers, just like there's jerks for fathers (and mothers).
As a woman having worked over 10 years in a 12 hour rotating shift factory, i call bs on ops speculation. In over 10 years i have never met men who did this. Every one would rush home to be with their kids. They feel regret for missing out on a lot of activities and events and they feel bad their wives arent getting a break. Did they ever take an hour here or there for beers or to just chill (especially after 5 to 7 days/nights on 12 hour shifts) yup. They need to clear their head before going home to excitable kids. I love my kid, but occasionally we all need that. Not all men or women can be a primary to their kid because they work. Doeant make them bad parents. They make up for it in other ways. Stop judging other peoples family dynamics. Especially if you really dont have one.
Ive worked in manufacturing for over 10 years...ive NEVER met a man who did this. Ever. In fact the general consensus was every wished they could be home more because they felt they were missing out on their kids lives. But then they also felt they had to work more to have money to give their wives breaks. They were miserable missing their families.
Sounds like the guys I served with in the military. So eager to have a wife to keep her barefoot and pregnant, but when unit meetings come around the spouses’ most consistent complaint was that the unit was keeping their husbands away from their families. I so often wished to be a fly on the wall when the commander as well as the female soldiers would inform them that other than early morning PT we worked normal corporate hours with a half day on Thursdays.
"See honey, I'm not so bad... Guess what the guys at work do". OP thought that s**t in his mind & telling his wife stories to make his self look better. Most likely these guys come in early for a little quiet time & are high earners with stay at home wives.
Don't understand the purpose of this stupid post. OP never got a definitive answer, did she? So everybody just ASSUMES they do it to get out of parental duties? Maybe they just want some quiet social time that doesn't revolve around meeting up at the local bar after work.
I've never left that early for work. I love my daughter and I spend every moment I can with her. During my business off season, I work as a freelancer from home. I work around her schedule. If she's home, I'm hanging out with her. If she's at school or sleeping, I work. Not even most dads use their kids as trophies. Only the crappy ones.
I like how all there pro mothers posts act like the wife has no input on her situation or even the assumption that mom doesn't work. Until the man asks them why they are in their early this is all just a best guess. My childless self goes in super early to avoid the stress of morning traffic. But unlike above i leave early as well. I would also like to know who gets bigger checks. I'm gonna say the 12 hour guys make more that the 8 hour guys even on commission.
I would go to school an hour early once I got my driver's license to avoid daddy dearest and his morning mood (hangover fueled a**holery). So, the theory isn't unprecedented.
It was the '' Is That Why You Leave Early And Stay Late Every Day'' that was confusing me. Leave the house early or arrive early is what they meant!
What an utterly daft and illogical "Take". Clearly this woman and her beta-husband are so self conscious about not having kids that they are projecting their insecurities onto these other men. Not only that, but the group even tried to bring the husband in and offered to buy him food as a generous offer, but he's so lazy that the thought of actually getting to work early and having a proper work ethic appalled him. I used to arrive at work early in the mornings because my workplace offered a cooked breakfast which I loved and set me up for the day. never once did I come in because I was avoiding anything to do with my kids; quite the opposite - I often made sure I spent time with them before I left, because as anyone who actually HAS kids will know, they are ALWAYS up hours before their parents are so there's plenty of time to spend with them. This woman-child needs to grow up and realise that not every man is "avoiding" their responsibilities just because they promote good ethids.
lmao all the butthurt breeders in the comments that can't take the truth, it's too funny lmao, y'all are amazing. Never stop being dense and r******d please <3 love y'all, you make me appreciate life and feel so much better about myself
On the contrary, I remember my dad kept switching jobs because the best paying jobs were ones where he was away for weeks at a time and he kept trying to find ones that let him be home more. But I’ve definitely had coworkers that were there all the time even when they weren’t on the clock. I always assumed that they were lonely (and I’m sure a lot are just socializing) but staying at work so you don’t have to be around or help out the family is so much worse. Especially when it’s a family that you chose to create
Working 10-12 hours a day... When do they have time for their mental well being? Seems to me these men have found a way to be away from their families most of the day and found a support group to get through the grind of the work shift. I'm not a fan of the child free wife judging hard working fathers.
When my daughter was in High school I got up early every morning and made her some 'breakfast' (high school girls don't eat much) and put together a 'lunch' for her and dropped her off at school on my way to work. My wife wasn't well and needed her rest, but it was some of the best time I had with her. Today she is 33 and she still confides all of her cares and concerns with me. My wife is gone now and I am so grateful for the kind relationship we still have. It's true that lots of men are lousy fathers but they are also loosing out of one of the most precious experiences in life.
Maybe, just maybe, these co workers eat breakfast together before work because they are friends? My friends and I used to go to work early on Saturdays and have breakfast before hand to either just relax before work or to have conversations that might not be work friendly... sounds more like this guys is just bitter.. the OP isnt even the one experiencing this... my guess is poor hubby is upset people at his work are happy and enjoying themselves while he is working a "grueling" 50hr work week..
My daddy was the primary care giver. Mom worked full time and was the bread winner. Both ways are fine as long as it is agreed on.
A couple problems with the comments (not the original post but replies to it). Talking about men not taking all their allowable leave, while it might be allowable in theory doesn't mean the boss wants you taking it. Subtle (and not so subtle) pressure to keep it short is a real thing. And talking about parents wanting time away from kids/spouse bugs me too. While you should want to do stuff with them, lets be honest you probably don't want to spend every single minute of the day with them. Everyone needs space apart and time with other friends.
Yes yes yes, Not All Men, I get it! But some men, annoyingly many men! Statistically, most of the icky bits of child rearing falls to the mother still. Yes the world is full of great dads who share equally, but the world is also full of men who don't
Statistically, most of the icky bits of 'breadwinning' falls to the man still. Yes the world is full of great mothers who aren't whingey, cringey karens, but the world is also full of women who are...
Load More Replies... I think a lot of people in the bp comment section probably had the few good dads that didn't treat their family as a trophy. Here's a newsflash for those people as a trophy child: my dad rarely made time for dinner from elementary to middle school. He never came to my volleyball matches because he liked soccer better. I don't have a real relationship with him because he doesn't want real kids, he wants poster children. This post could completely be accurate.
So your experience means that is the norm for everyone, and anything different from your experience is a deviation?
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Wanna complain about raising kids? Keep your legs closed women, maybe the men won't have to try to stay in office if you gave BJ instead. Your fault women for bringing the kids into this world.
People are quick to make bad judgment. Yes some of them could have done that, but some others probably had good reason too. Abusive relationship usualy does that, and it's not always the guy's fault. In the end, we should all try to be more comprehensive and less judgmental. I guess downvotes are coming...
So much stereotyping. Personally when my daughter was very young, I'd rush home from work to spend time with her. Still spend every minute I can with her. Don't jump on the manbashing bandwagon, prejudging a demographic based on a stereotype has a name, pre-judice.
Yeah. It was irritating that many of the comments inferred “most men”. I don’t think so. I understand wanting some alone time, but not to that extent.
Load More Replies... Wtf even is this post? My dad was always early for work because my school started before his shift at work did. So he'd take me to school in the mornings and then go straight to the office because going back home after dropping me off would be a waste of both time and fuel. I'd argue dads are earlier at work than childfree folks specifically BECAUSE they're helping with the school rush in the mornings.
That's exactly where my thoughts went too. My dad was the one who got my and siblings up and to school in the morning, as well as being the one to make our packed lunches. Granted he was late home in the evenings, but certainly not because he was avoiding bath time, but because that's just how his shift timing worked. And given that he did all the morning parenting, I'd say he was carrying his weight, even if he did miss bath time.
Load More Replies... Week barely started and our first post is the good old man-bashing. Just the usual, is it, BP?
People have to push into other people's lives. I have a huge family, my wife is shaking her head and laughing about this. OP, and nosey Honey need to get a life.
Load More Replies... Well done to the OP as they managed to draw an epic out of sentence their partner said to some colleagues. Look out for future stories of when they opened the door to a delivery driver one, and the time they waved to a friend across the street.
Lots of judgment here. Male bonding time - necessary as much as female bonding time. Based upon morning breakfast, you determine that they are poor parents? That’s b******t.
So when do their wives get female bonding time, then?
Load More Replies... I might be in the minority here, but the OP comes across as a judgemental ah. Why do you even care if they come in early? Or about their status? I go to work and l couldn't care less if the rest are doing more or less or what they talk about.
DEFINITELY not in the minority. They've been a little quiet lately, but there's a cadre of BP content-providers who absolutely hate men. I don't recognize this one as being one of them.
Load More Replies... What the... I knew it was something about parenthood so my first though was "oh i see, they come to work early so that they can leave early and be with their kids", not "typical men, avoiding childcare". And ultimately we don't know. You are just guessing and being an a*s. Maybe approach this in a good faith first?
Also, afaik school usually starts sooner than office job working hours? Parents get up early, get the kids ready, drop them off... and may still arrive at work before childless colleagues if the school starts at 8 and the job starts at 9 (which would be typical where I live)
Load More Replies... I always did bath and bed time, it was my time to spend with my son as I was at the office and my wife was a SAHM. Now she works full time as well but I have been working from home since the pandemic, I now get our son ready for school and take him and pick him up. I used to go in early for more practical reasons such a less traffic on the road and I can get stuff done without being interrupted. But I do know some dads who do as little as possible
I didn't use my parental allowance either. Why? Because the £100 (or whatever it was) a week didn't cover the wage I lost. It's OK lambasting people for working, but we do it to pay bills and maintain a roof over our heads. Hell, I held down TWO jobs because my (now ex) didn't want to work (and has never worked since). Ironically her mother shared the same condescending attitude which I read here "BUT YOU'RE MISSING YOUR CHILD GROW UP!" - I know, but what option did I have? You can't have both...
I have to say my husband is an EXCELLENT dad. He sits and does bathtime, he always does bed time, he does do his part, He starts work at 7:30 am three times a week, but still uses two days to take my daughter to school each week, which he bartered before he took the role. This post has annoyed me.
My husband did that and would nap in his work van during the day. Needless to say, I was livid after getting up several times a night for several months with our kid. Sadly, he never really changed.
Why is it anyone's business why they come in early and eat? Certainly isn't OP's or her husband's business. Why don't you worry about your own family and keep your nose out of others. More virtue signaling idiots.
The post literally said the guys who got there early were teasing OPs hubby for not having kids. They instigated. Lol. Maybe they need to mind their own business and figure out why they're in denial.
Load More Replies... I almost wish this WAS a dreaded AITA post, so I could scream, "YES!!!"
Enough with the man-hating already, BP. I get to work early because I drop my son off to school, and it doesn't make sense to drive 20 minutes home, and ten minutes later drive 20 minutes back.
Ok, so anyone referring to their husband as my Honey. Has now become my enemy #1. And now on to the obvious stupidity in the room. The OP, and her nosey 'Honey', can suck it. Every parent has their own way of dealing with the stress, and pride they have in being a parent. I have 6. And it I have the greatest sense of pride. But, any parent, and even a child know some days you need a time out. The breakfast club father's, aren't looking for a way to get out of getting their kids to work, they are getting out of the way. All families have certain tasks that parents split. You don't know what these proud Fathers do in the weekends, or evenings. Does Nosey and Honey even have kids? Do you know the stress? If I didn't get out of my partners way, while doing a chosen parental tasks, I would be knocked down. Mind your business OP. When you are a parent, and Honey understands shared parenting at home. Give your thoughts, until.. maybe you and Honey should get a hobby.
My father was the one who came to Parent/Teacher conferences, my school plays, took me to the doctor, etc. My mother was the one who didn't have time for me (although she did invest in my older sister 🤔) so I know that there's good fathers, just like there's jerks for fathers (and mothers).
As a woman having worked over 10 years in a 12 hour rotating shift factory, i call bs on ops speculation. In over 10 years i have never met men who did this. Every one would rush home to be with their kids. They feel regret for missing out on a lot of activities and events and they feel bad their wives arent getting a break. Did they ever take an hour here or there for beers or to just chill (especially after 5 to 7 days/nights on 12 hour shifts) yup. They need to clear their head before going home to excitable kids. I love my kid, but occasionally we all need that. Not all men or women can be a primary to their kid because they work. Doeant make them bad parents. They make up for it in other ways. Stop judging other peoples family dynamics. Especially if you really dont have one.
Ive worked in manufacturing for over 10 years...ive NEVER met a man who did this. Ever. In fact the general consensus was every wished they could be home more because they felt they were missing out on their kids lives. But then they also felt they had to work more to have money to give their wives breaks. They were miserable missing their families.
Sounds like the guys I served with in the military. So eager to have a wife to keep her barefoot and pregnant, but when unit meetings come around the spouses’ most consistent complaint was that the unit was keeping their husbands away from their families. I so often wished to be a fly on the wall when the commander as well as the female soldiers would inform them that other than early morning PT we worked normal corporate hours with a half day on Thursdays.
"See honey, I'm not so bad... Guess what the guys at work do". OP thought that s**t in his mind & telling his wife stories to make his self look better. Most likely these guys come in early for a little quiet time & are high earners with stay at home wives.
Don't understand the purpose of this stupid post. OP never got a definitive answer, did she? So everybody just ASSUMES they do it to get out of parental duties? Maybe they just want some quiet social time that doesn't revolve around meeting up at the local bar after work.
I've never left that early for work. I love my daughter and I spend every moment I can with her. During my business off season, I work as a freelancer from home. I work around her schedule. If she's home, I'm hanging out with her. If she's at school or sleeping, I work. Not even most dads use their kids as trophies. Only the crappy ones.
I like how all there pro mothers posts act like the wife has no input on her situation or even the assumption that mom doesn't work. Until the man asks them why they are in their early this is all just a best guess. My childless self goes in super early to avoid the stress of morning traffic. But unlike above i leave early as well. I would also like to know who gets bigger checks. I'm gonna say the 12 hour guys make more that the 8 hour guys even on commission.
I would go to school an hour early once I got my driver's license to avoid daddy dearest and his morning mood (hangover fueled a**holery). So, the theory isn't unprecedented.
It was the '' Is That Why You Leave Early And Stay Late Every Day'' that was confusing me. Leave the house early or arrive early is what they meant!
What an utterly daft and illogical "Take". Clearly this woman and her beta-husband are so self conscious about not having kids that they are projecting their insecurities onto these other men. Not only that, but the group even tried to bring the husband in and offered to buy him food as a generous offer, but he's so lazy that the thought of actually getting to work early and having a proper work ethic appalled him. I used to arrive at work early in the mornings because my workplace offered a cooked breakfast which I loved and set me up for the day. never once did I come in because I was avoiding anything to do with my kids; quite the opposite - I often made sure I spent time with them before I left, because as anyone who actually HAS kids will know, they are ALWAYS up hours before their parents are so there's plenty of time to spend with them. This woman-child needs to grow up and realise that not every man is "avoiding" their responsibilities just because they promote good ethids.
lmao all the butthurt breeders in the comments that can't take the truth, it's too funny lmao, y'all are amazing. Never stop being dense and r******d please <3 love y'all, you make me appreciate life and feel so much better about myself
On the contrary, I remember my dad kept switching jobs because the best paying jobs were ones where he was away for weeks at a time and he kept trying to find ones that let him be home more. But I’ve definitely had coworkers that were there all the time even when they weren’t on the clock. I always assumed that they were lonely (and I’m sure a lot are just socializing) but staying at work so you don’t have to be around or help out the family is so much worse. Especially when it’s a family that you chose to create
Working 10-12 hours a day... When do they have time for their mental well being? Seems to me these men have found a way to be away from their families most of the day and found a support group to get through the grind of the work shift. I'm not a fan of the child free wife judging hard working fathers.
When my daughter was in High school I got up early every morning and made her some 'breakfast' (high school girls don't eat much) and put together a 'lunch' for her and dropped her off at school on my way to work. My wife wasn't well and needed her rest, but it was some of the best time I had with her. Today she is 33 and she still confides all of her cares and concerns with me. My wife is gone now and I am so grateful for the kind relationship we still have. It's true that lots of men are lousy fathers but they are also loosing out of one of the most precious experiences in life.
Maybe, just maybe, these co workers eat breakfast together before work because they are friends? My friends and I used to go to work early on Saturdays and have breakfast before hand to either just relax before work or to have conversations that might not be work friendly... sounds more like this guys is just bitter.. the OP isnt even the one experiencing this... my guess is poor hubby is upset people at his work are happy and enjoying themselves while he is working a "grueling" 50hr work week..
My daddy was the primary care giver. Mom worked full time and was the bread winner. Both ways are fine as long as it is agreed on.
A couple problems with the comments (not the original post but replies to it). Talking about men not taking all their allowable leave, while it might be allowable in theory doesn't mean the boss wants you taking it. Subtle (and not so subtle) pressure to keep it short is a real thing. And talking about parents wanting time away from kids/spouse bugs me too. While you should want to do stuff with them, lets be honest you probably don't want to spend every single minute of the day with them. Everyone needs space apart and time with other friends.
Yes yes yes, Not All Men, I get it! But some men, annoyingly many men! Statistically, most of the icky bits of child rearing falls to the mother still. Yes the world is full of great dads who share equally, but the world is also full of men who don't
Statistically, most of the icky bits of 'breadwinning' falls to the man still. Yes the world is full of great mothers who aren't whingey, cringey karens, but the world is also full of women who are...
Load More Replies... I think a lot of people in the bp comment section probably had the few good dads that didn't treat their family as a trophy. Here's a newsflash for those people as a trophy child: my dad rarely made time for dinner from elementary to middle school. He never came to my volleyball matches because he liked soccer better. I don't have a real relationship with him because he doesn't want real kids, he wants poster children. This post could completely be accurate.
So your experience means that is the norm for everyone, and anything different from your experience is a deviation?
Load More Replies... Wanna complain about raising kids? Keep your legs closed women, maybe the men won't have to try to stay in office if you gave BJ instead. Your fault women for bringing the kids into this world.
People are quick to make bad judgment. Yes some of them could have done that, but some others probably had good reason too. Abusive relationship usualy does that, and it's not always the guy's fault. In the end, we should all try to be more comprehensive and less judgmental. I guess downvotes are coming...
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