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The current political climate has made the relationship between the US and its European partners very tense and challenging. In an attempt to prevent misunderstandings from festering, Reddit user SprinklesNo164 asked people from the Old Continent to share the news they wish every American would know. Responses quickly poured in, highlighting a range of issues from travel to civil unrest and beyond.
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#1
We are currently issuing travel warnings to the US. Secretly, a lot of Europeans hope we can have less dependencies and relationships with you - and hopefully not get nuked in the process.
StrangeOne 8 months ago
Canadians are heeding caution, too. Many are cancelling their trips. Some people think as long as they have their paperwork and passports in order they're guaranteed to be okay. But from the USA's repeated refusal of due process and just making those denied entry to go back home, and some of those denials are based on errors or minor thing, there is no guarantee and if you're kidnapped and sent to the concentration camps, you may not get out for weeks or months. It's not worth the risk.
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#2
Lots of discussions about how the US now seems more aligned with Russia than NATO.
Verena 8 months ago
They are. And adding to that, the English to Russian translators suck. A "-" can be crucial during political or economic discussions. When they were negotiating with the Russians, the US guys did not pay attention to the "-", so the Russians are of the opinion that not all civilian areas are banned from being bombed. On top of that, Russia and US have a different understanding of what an agreement or a deal is. For Russia it is not binding at all.
#3
The UK has emerged from the grey damp winter and it’s now sunny! Spring is here! Daffs are out in force! People are smiling.
David Jeffery 8 months ago
While here in Australia, we're well into Autumn and soon into Winter - my favourite season. Sorry everyone, I know it's unAustralian but I just can't stand the heat
#4
Serbia, Hungary, Greece, Romania, Slovakia, Georgia, and Turkey are all having protests against government corruption and have Anti-Russia sentiments, a "Balkan Spring" as you could call it.
#5
We're all backing away from any dependence on the US as they have shown they're not reliable or friendly anymore - business deals & investments, defence spending, security, trade, etc. etc. everyone' rushing to cut dependence on America almost as fast as they dropped Russia after they invaded Ukraine.
#6
Many European countries including the U.K. are issuing travel warnings for their citizens who plan to visit the US. .
#7
Serbia has been protesting for more than 4 months now after roof of railway station in Novi Sad collapsed on 1st of November, k**ling 16 people. Students barricaded universities around the country and unis haven't been working for all this time. They also have been walking for miles and miles to protests in different cities in order to spread the word and connect to people. They won't stop until their demands for justice and systems changes are met.
Professors and school teachers that support them stopped getting paid. Government used acoustic sound weapon on protesters a week ago, but continues to deny that.
Direct democracy is on the rise among people, but dictatorship is on the rise in the government.
Additionally, our neighbours (North Macedonia, Greece, Hungary, Turkey, and bit further, Georgia) also had their mass protests against s**t autocratic and corrupt governments. Serbia stands with them, you can frequently see Greek and Macedonian signs on protests these days.
#9
Netherlands: We of all places have a drought, and badgers are trying to eat the railways.
#10
Let's not forget the IF Metall strike against Tesla in Sweden, which began on October 27, 2023, and has become one of the longest labor conflicts in Swedish history. The strike was initiated because Tesla refuses to sign a collective agreement with the union, challenging the Swedish labor model, where approximately 90% of the workforce is covered by collective agreements.
#11
That America is no longer seen as friendly, or trustworthy.
*and general world geography, that seems to always be new to America.*.
Verena 8 months ago
If you are a friend that can be counted on, a lot of s****y actions are forgiven. If you start acting hostile, be prepared for the echo. The reason why other countries sell more to the US than vice versa is simple: The US wants cheap and quality, so they outsourced whatever they could. And for gods sake, almost every country in the world adapted the voting systems, type of government, basic laws and rules, care and education for their citizens during the past 250 years. Not every experiment resulted in an improvement, but some countries e.g. in Europe achieved a pretty fair standard of justice, voice of the citizens in government (multi-party system) and living quality. But the US still get stuck with laws and a voting system from when post delivery by horse was an achievement.
#12
There is now an €840 Billion plan underway to rearm Europe. Effectively making it a superpower and bringing the era of American dominance to an end.
Edit: Lots of comments on this. Sorry I have no interest in arguing on the Internet, I won't reply. Let me clarify my position: this is a terrible thing that's happening. If you are working class you'll be the one f****d in the upcoming wars. Trump is stupid for squandering American power in Europe but he seems to be doing it in advance of grabbing mineral rich territories for resources big tech companies need. All the bourgeois powers will be doing some version of this soon because capital needs to constantly expand or collapse.
#13
There is a pre-war atmosphere in Europe. Last October, Sweden distributed a brochure to prepare its citizens for an imminent threat. Now, this summer, the French will receive a survival manual at home to know how to act in case of a national emergency or an “imminent threat”. In addition, news came out today that Brussels is calling for European households to stockpile emergency supplies in case of a climate crisis or war.
“Europe must prepare for a potential war, also for cyber-attacks, pandemics and the terrible effects of the climate crisis, warns the European Commission.... Brussels is calling for all European households to have stocks of water, medicines, batteries and food to subsist for 72 hours without outside help in the event of a crisis. It is one of the guidelines of the Union's Preparedness Strategy, which will be presented by the Community Executive on Wednesday”.
#14
Germany relaxing its debt break to enable major investment in defence spending and infrastructure.
#15
Right now? Farmers are revolting all over Europe, protesting EU policies and climate regulations.
But Americans wouldn’t know, because they’re too busy arguing whether drag queens or vaccines are the real threat to democracy.
Meanwhile, half of Congress thinks Europe is a province in Canada.
#16
Norway. The biggest *local* news event is that a kindergarten went on a ski trip and had a great time. Erik says he fell once but it didn't hurt and he had an orange in his backpack that didn't take any damage.
A big national news event is that they found even more proof of sexual a***e of patients at a gross doctor's house.
#17
Everyone hates Russia, except the US right now and nobody knows why.
StrangeOne 8 months ago
Trump is a wannbe dictator. His only goal in life is to win all the time. A true,, classic textbook narcissist. Trump sees Russia as winning the war but the USA wasn't endorsing Russia's side, and Trump is pissed that the USA has been supporting the losing side. He doesn't care what each country represents, their history and injustices. He doesn't care who started the war. He also sees that Russia invaded for valuable resources that Trump wants. It's insidious greed.
#18
Here in Denmark we are talking about two things:
1. Greenland and how f****d up America is acting.
2. A prominent former politician was indicted for possessing thousands of images and videos of child sexual a***e material as well as a childlike s*x doll.
Other than that, sun is out and spring is here so that’s nice.
#20
I'm saying Australia counts because of Eurovision.
We're about to have an election in the next month where it is literally a Republican vs Democrat election round 2: Electric Boogaloo. Our conservative (called the Liberal) party has started to spit Trumpist lines in his press conferences and our liberal/left (called Labor with no u) party is running a bump in healthcare funding.
The polls are so tight there is a massive chance of a hung parliament because of independents and the greens.
We are one election away from having a bald potato Trump.
#21
I'm from a small town in England, according to the local Facebook group:
* Immigrants are ruining the town, or not ruining the town, nobody is really sure at this point. They're definitely up to something.
* Nigel Farange is either the devil or going to save the UK. Nobody can agree on that.
* The bypass they have been promising for 80 years hasn't been built yet, people are salty about that
* Some drama about a Primary school not having an Easter service this year.
Exciting stuff.
#22
Living in Sweden we're dealing with massive teacher strikes right now. Over 20,000 teachers walked out last week.
#23
UK: Everyone pissed themselves about a spiral in the sky last night that turned out to be rocket fuel being expelled from a SpaceX launch.
DeoManus Argentem 8 months ago
This has been covered quite a bit in US MSM (mainstream media). Not about the alleged UK reaction, but the event.
#25
The UK's National Health Service is in absolute chaos right now. I'm a nurse in London and we've had the longest strikes in NHS history.
#26
Another Pulse Nightclub tragedy that didn’t reach most American news outlets. On March 16th 2025, a fire at a DNK concert k**led at least 59 people (including the entire band except for one dude). It was caused by pyrotechnics. It is the deadliest nightclub fire in Europe since the 2015 Bucharest nightclub fire, and the deadliest fire in North Macedonia’s history. Super tragic. source
Edit: For the record I’m not European. I saw it on Wikipedia’s home page and was confused because it said Pulse Nightclub.. yet it was super recent and in Macedonia. I ended up listening to some DNK songs. They were super talented and it’s f*****g tragic. RIP.
Dusty's mom 8 months ago
My sympathies to their families, friends and fans. I do wish that pyrotechnics would be limited to outdoor venues with adequate safety measures.
#27
The two people that stole the Paddington Bear statue were sentenced today. They both got community service and a fine.
Both of them are RAF engineers and brought the statue back to base with them so I'm guessing they're in for a proper kicking off their Seniors.
#28
France here while everyone's focused on our pension protests there's actually a massive water crisis happening in some regions.
Huddo's sister 8 months ago
So much drought across the world at the moment :( but no, climate change is a myth...
#29
In the UK we're having pushback against our c***py government from all sides at the moment. The latest one being nationwide protests from disabled people regarding cuts to the Personal Independence Payment system that was already considered cruel and bureaucratic.
#30
Asparagus season is coming early this year.
#31
The Netherlands (a small country (18 mio.) west of Germany) quickly wants to increase its army from 75.000 people to 200.000 people. They accept anyone now, so they claim.
#32
The leader of the Serb-dominant region of Bosnia is defying arrest, breaking the constitution and threatening to raise an army. He's a separatist. The arrest warrant for him hasn't been filled because local police from his region would likely protect him. He's also been sentenced to jail and banned from politics, but he's still there. It's very complicated and not easy to explain quickly so I think it's been way underreported, even in Europe.
#33
Similar to the US a whole ton of cuts are being made in the UK right now and it's causing a similar backlash. The people who will be most harmed are those who are most vulnerable, it is seen by many to be justifiable given the current circumstances of the war but I'd prefer we just hit the Americans with retaliatory tarrifs to pay for it instead.
StrangeOne 8 months ago
My bf is British. He's told me they are cutting off benefits to disabled people to make them work. He's a carer for his severely disabled, ailing parents, and is very worried what's going to happen. I've heard of how their benefits system gives their own assessments of disabled people, through invasive, upsetting tests to figure out what they are capable of. I've been trying to reassure him that it's highly unlikely he and his parents would be affected. But I'm not fully confident of that.
#34
Europeans live about 6 years longer than Americans on average.
General Anaesthesia 8 months ago
Is that because infant and maternal mortality have been on the rise in the US for years?
#35
Chickens are producing so many eggs that farmers are paying people to take them off their hands.
#36
Here in Sweden we're dealing with this wild situation where our biggest grocery store chain ICA is in a massive fight with Coca Cola.
Matt Richardson 8 months ago
I have no clue the background on this (And I don't really care), but I usually root against mega corporations . Sweden has my worthless moral support.
#37
In France, the prime minister has lied about his knowledge and cover up of a violence scandal at a private catholic school, so the government is currently distracting the population by banning islamic veils from sports competitions. Just islamic veils, not crosses or whatever religious symbol under the name of laïcité.
#38
Croatia:
People: spring is here! Yes, everything is expensive, but it is warm outside, trees geeting green...
Meteorologist: breaking news, it will rain all week.
#39
UK economy is in big trouble. Debt interest now huge- bigger than education budget. Debt aporoachimg 100% of GDP. Our crappy productivity per capita is depressing. Population due to reach 85m on a crowded island ( England 434 people per sq km) but we don't produce enough. 'Left' wing government needing to cut spending as we desperately need to up defence spending.
Gloomiest country in Europe just now?
#41
In Portugal, Ronaldo went playing some tenis today.
#42
Preparation for the next Eurovision. It's all we Euros care about.
Verena 8 months ago
I loved it, until the elimination rounds were invented. The main show does not have all the fun, crazy, quirky, idiotic, unique bands anymore.
Panda McPandaface 8 months ago
If all entrants were in the final it would be about 5 hours long - the ones that get eliminated are pretty bad for the most part, but I take your point. There still seem to be a fair number weird and wacky entries in the final though. I'm still pissed that 'Cha CHa Cha' lost to that boring Loreen dirge...
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Apatheist Account2 8 months ago
Somewhat disappointing that we (UK) had a decent song for the first time in 25 years and Ukraine won it due to a sympathy vote. Ah well.
Purplemoobzz 8 months ago
Fully agree, even Baby Lasagne was better than Nemo
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Huddo's sister 8 months ago
I wish Australia wasn't in it. It takes over our 'world' channel for ages each year.
Chewie Baron 8 months ago
Some of this year’s songs are all right. Also, Techno seems to have made a comeback going by a few entries,
Gunnar Strandt 8 months ago
As european I can't explain how much I don't care about this b******t
winterwidow87 8 months ago (edited)
Don't mind me laughing at San Marino going with Gabri Ponte, an italian dj who competes with the song "Tutta l'Italia" aka "All of Italy". For those who don't know, San Marino is a small state geographically located in Italy but independent, so i find the whole thing very amusing.
Sarah 8 months ago
Last few years..most of the ladies look the same.. lip fillers/ Botox , scantily clad .
Panda McPandaface 8 months ago
But SEQUINS! We queens love us some glitter. Not so much the Botox...
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Rich Black 8 months ago
In related news, Taylor Swift's ERAs tour has been ongoing for 2 years. So far it has grossed over $2 billion.
Learner Panda 8 months ago
I stopped watching this when it became political, instead of talent based.
Monika Rhodes 8 months ago
It was always political, people always voted according to politics/ neighbours.
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Jaya 8 months ago (edited)
No, it is nothing like American Idol. It's a song contest with 1 song from every European country (minus some countries, plus some non-European countries). It's a big music show with lots of great lighting effects and awesome constumes and cool theater set backgrounds, it's a very visual production. It's about singers/bands that are usually already very established, not a lot of beginners. It's fantastic (or horrible, depending on who you ask). The cool thing is that some countries include their traditional music or a modern variation of traditional music (which is something you never hear on the radio in other countries, so you get to discover cool things from other countries). It's extremely popular amongst gay people, and there's always multiple bands with super gay fashion and performances, a lot of queer culture.
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#44
Norway is selling a lot of teslas again.
Oerff On Tour 8 months ago
To put it in perspective: Owners of Teslas are selling, not Tesla itself. Just like everyone else in Europe. The lease contracts are running out, and the used ones are flooding the second hand market, which in itself caused the prices to drop, but now no one wants neither a new Tesla, nor a second hand. This means that the value of a second hand has dropped in a few months by more than half. And still nobody buys one. While for some reason the price of a new one has already dropped (before Elon lost his cool) by nearly 10%, lease rates have gone UP by 10%
What do you think ?
Blah Blah Blah 8 months ago
aMerIcAn here and yet again, I would like to like to apologize to dam near everyone else in world for the upheaval orange vomit is causing, resulting in a lot of this unnecessary b******t stress and mental load! We're protesting like hell over here. F**k tRuMp, mUsK and everyone else who voted for him and/or kisses their a*s. EAT THE RICH!
Forrest Hobbs 8 months ago
Eat the rich - yes, good idea. There's a film with that title if anyone feels a comedic distraction is called for. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092944/
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Arlnee 8 months ago
American here. Europe et al you are more than justified to take whatever steps you need to for your safety. I wouldn't trust my country's government with so much as a burned out match at the moment, so I sure don't blame you for not trusting them either. Treat us like the sketchy fair weather friend at best, and the actively rooting for your downfall toxic acquaintence at worst. Meanwhile those of us not in power will don woad and sing Kipling's "Picts Song"
Forrest Hobbs 8 months ago
https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poem/poems_picts.htm "Rome never looks where she treads. Always her heavy hooves fall, On our stomachs, our hearts or our heads; [...]"
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Cathy Lemay 8 months ago
I'm Canadian and just want to get through the next month. We have our elections then and I sincerely don't want the Conservative leader to be our PM
PenguinEmp 8 months ago
Because the last one made everything so perfect? 9 years and Canadians are worse than they were then. No gdp growth. Only one. Is pp better? Maybe maybe not. At least he Didn't wear blackface. 3 times. Elbow a woman MP out of the way, hit her b**b and then say it's not a lie he just experienced it differently. Spend the country broke. Accepted gifts from friends that also were conflicting interest. New pm hid his money in Bermuda and said it was for Canada. Moved Brookfield to the US literally 5 days before JT resigned. Did not reveal his holdings or conflicts of interest. Was the financial advisor for the last 9 years. Came up with tons of taxes and now says he will remove them and Canada should thank him.
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Apatheist Account2 8 months ago
Poll option for neither European nor American, perhaps? It is the WORLD-WIDE web, after all...
Sarah Belt 8 months ago
I find it ironic that people downvoted your comment.
Load More Replies... Victor Botha 8 months ago
So only European and US American opinions matter? What about New Zealans/Australian, Asian and African opinions, or are we not part of the world according to you??? Very disrespectful and exceedingly rude.😡😡🤬🤬
Anna Drever 8 months ago (edited)
Stupid poll. What if I’m neither European or American? 🤷🏻♀️Yes I know the title but other people read this stuff too.
T'Mar of Vulcan 8 months ago
I'm British (born in Africa to British-ancestor parents) but don't live in the UK. All my life I felt guilty about being a white person in a Black majority country, especially during apartheid. Now I don't. I'm thrilled I live in South Africa where at least most of the things work, even if you have to dodge potholes to get there.
Multa Nocte 8 months ago
Just waiting for the outraged American comments with my popcorn and a nice cold beverage.
Tamra 8 months ago
I'm not sure why any American would be upset over this list. I'm American, and only the most delusional would deny the absolute and utter madness occuring right now. To deny it is a form of complicity, and I will *never* be quietly complicit to an authoritarian regime. We, in the US, need to know how other countries are reacting, and need to understand we can't afford to be so insular. That said, I suppose you might be right that there will be a few angry comments.
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Kenneth Smith 8 months ago
At the core of Trumpism is the unwillingness to suffer any blowback for their assholery. They could advocate for the killing of puppies, but you're the a*s if you call them out on it. They do not understand that there are always consequences for acting like this, and when we act this way as a nation, we will pay for it. The US will not bounce back from Trump. The rest of the world is moving on because we're moving bass ackwards
Danish Susanne 8 months ago
There was a news item on TV a couple of minutes ago. I always appreciate good news. The item was that Mr and Mrs Wance were back home in the USA where they belong.
Stannous Flouride 8 months ago
If you wanted to destroy faith in the USA and its government overseas and at home, you could not do anything that would be more effective than what the Tangerine Toddler & crew are doing. The fact that one of his closest allies is a guy who crew up being taught that the only reason the Soviet Union didn't work was because of interference from the West and the went to work for the KGB just "may" have something to do with it. I think both are united in their desire to destroy the US and its allies.
Amnarie 8 months ago
If you're an immigrant in America today, you're keeping your eye on the snake in the corner of your garden. You're not looking over the fence at what's going on in the neighbor's garden. I'm very pleased for Erik and his successful ski trip! But not going to seek out that information as I'm working on getting back to a place where that counts as news.
XYZ 8 months ago
South African here. From reading this thread I have learned that we are apparently the most peaceful nation in the world at the moment. Julius Malema sang “K**l the boer, k**l the farmer” again at a Heritage Day rally, but most people just ignored it (and him). Everyone is getting poorer but we’re used to it. Eskom is having a good year with regards to rotational power cuts called loadshedding (mostly due to a massive uptake in rooftoop solar by households and businesses), and predictably they now want to punish solar users in various ways to claw revenue back. They have not learned from the e-toll debacle which Gauteng road users decided en masse not to pay. No uptick in war mongering. We’ve also experienced a relatively mild summer with lots of rain (in the summer rainfall regions at least) so things are looking up for a nice cold winter (the past 10 years I haven’t even gotten my thicker jackets out of the closet since it just didn’t get that cold).
Blah Blah Blah 8 months ago
aMerIcAn here and yet again, I would like to like to apologize to dam near everyone else in world for the upheaval orange vomit is causing, resulting in a lot of this unnecessary b******t stress and mental load! We're protesting like hell over here. F**k tRuMp, mUsK and everyone else who voted for him and/or kisses their a*s. EAT THE RICH!
Forrest Hobbs 8 months ago
Eat the rich - yes, good idea. There's a film with that title if anyone feels a comedic distraction is called for. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0092944/
Load More Replies... Arlnee 8 months ago
American here. Europe et al you are more than justified to take whatever steps you need to for your safety. I wouldn't trust my country's government with so much as a burned out match at the moment, so I sure don't blame you for not trusting them either. Treat us like the sketchy fair weather friend at best, and the actively rooting for your downfall toxic acquaintence at worst. Meanwhile those of us not in power will don woad and sing Kipling's "Picts Song"
Forrest Hobbs 8 months ago
https://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/poem/poems_picts.htm "Rome never looks where she treads. Always her heavy hooves fall, On our stomachs, our hearts or our heads; [...]"
Load More Replies... Cathy Lemay 8 months ago
I'm Canadian and just want to get through the next month. We have our elections then and I sincerely don't want the Conservative leader to be our PM
PenguinEmp 8 months ago
Because the last one made everything so perfect? 9 years and Canadians are worse than they were then. No gdp growth. Only one. Is pp better? Maybe maybe not. At least he Didn't wear blackface. 3 times. Elbow a woman MP out of the way, hit her b**b and then say it's not a lie he just experienced it differently. Spend the country broke. Accepted gifts from friends that also were conflicting interest. New pm hid his money in Bermuda and said it was for Canada. Moved Brookfield to the US literally 5 days before JT resigned. Did not reveal his holdings or conflicts of interest. Was the financial advisor for the last 9 years. Came up with tons of taxes and now says he will remove them and Canada should thank him.
Load More Replies... Apatheist Account2 8 months ago
Poll option for neither European nor American, perhaps? It is the WORLD-WIDE web, after all...
Sarah Belt 8 months ago
I find it ironic that people downvoted your comment.
Load More Replies... Victor Botha 8 months ago
So only European and US American opinions matter? What about New Zealans/Australian, Asian and African opinions, or are we not part of the world according to you??? Very disrespectful and exceedingly rude.😡😡🤬🤬
Anna Drever 8 months ago (edited)
Stupid poll. What if I’m neither European or American? 🤷🏻♀️Yes I know the title but other people read this stuff too.
T'Mar of Vulcan 8 months ago
I'm British (born in Africa to British-ancestor parents) but don't live in the UK. All my life I felt guilty about being a white person in a Black majority country, especially during apartheid. Now I don't. I'm thrilled I live in South Africa where at least most of the things work, even if you have to dodge potholes to get there.
Multa Nocte 8 months ago
Just waiting for the outraged American comments with my popcorn and a nice cold beverage.
Tamra 8 months ago
I'm not sure why any American would be upset over this list. I'm American, and only the most delusional would deny the absolute and utter madness occuring right now. To deny it is a form of complicity, and I will *never* be quietly complicit to an authoritarian regime. We, in the US, need to know how other countries are reacting, and need to understand we can't afford to be so insular. That said, I suppose you might be right that there will be a few angry comments.
Load More Replies... Kenneth Smith 8 months ago
At the core of Trumpism is the unwillingness to suffer any blowback for their assholery. They could advocate for the killing of puppies, but you're the a*s if you call them out on it. They do not understand that there are always consequences for acting like this, and when we act this way as a nation, we will pay for it. The US will not bounce back from Trump. The rest of the world is moving on because we're moving bass ackwards
Danish Susanne 8 months ago
There was a news item on TV a couple of minutes ago. I always appreciate good news. The item was that Mr and Mrs Wance were back home in the USA where they belong.
Stannous Flouride 8 months ago
If you wanted to destroy faith in the USA and its government overseas and at home, you could not do anything that would be more effective than what the Tangerine Toddler & crew are doing. The fact that one of his closest allies is a guy who crew up being taught that the only reason the Soviet Union didn't work was because of interference from the West and the went to work for the KGB just "may" have something to do with it. I think both are united in their desire to destroy the US and its allies.
Amnarie 8 months ago
If you're an immigrant in America today, you're keeping your eye on the snake in the corner of your garden. You're not looking over the fence at what's going on in the neighbor's garden. I'm very pleased for Erik and his successful ski trip! But not going to seek out that information as I'm working on getting back to a place where that counts as news.
XYZ 8 months ago
South African here. From reading this thread I have learned that we are apparently the most peaceful nation in the world at the moment. Julius Malema sang “K**l the boer, k**l the farmer” again at a Heritage Day rally, but most people just ignored it (and him). Everyone is getting poorer but we’re used to it. Eskom is having a good year with regards to rotational power cuts called loadshedding (mostly due to a massive uptake in rooftoop solar by households and businesses), and predictably they now want to punish solar users in various ways to claw revenue back. They have not learned from the e-toll debacle which Gauteng road users decided en masse not to pay. No uptick in war mongering. We’ve also experienced a relatively mild summer with lots of rain (in the summer rainfall regions at least) so things are looking up for a nice cold winter (the past 10 years I haven’t even gotten my thicker jackets out of the closet since it just didn’t get that cold).
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