Online Discussion Ensues After A Couple Of Twitter Users Pointed Out How Entitled Millennials And Gen Zers Are
It seems that the battle between the older generations and the younger ones will never end. Older people are disappointed that the youth don’t do things as they used to do and don’t have the same values. On the other hand, the younger people feel misunderstood, mistreated and hopeless to explain that the times have changed and they are just adapting to them.
Twitter often becomes the battlefield of these kinds of conversations and the most recent one that went quite viral was about Gen Z and Millennials being entitled because they go to work just for the money.
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A couple of Twitter users ranted about Millennials and Gen Z being entitled, but the rest of the internet completely disagreed
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It all started with Twitter user ARou06 posting her observation that Millennials and Gen Zs are entitled because they think they don’t need to do tasks they don’t want to do. In her eyes young people want to be praised but don’t want to put in the effort. She thinks that their problem is that they just don’t have a strong work ethic.
ARou06 got a reply from a like-minded Rebel Scum who added that young people not only have a poor work ethic, they also are clock-watchers. Instead of doing work in that one minute that remains until their break, they’d rather just sit and do nothing. It seems that Rebel feels disgusted that Millennials and Gen Z work only because they want to get that paycheck and don’t have any other motivation.
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Not only did they call young employees entitled, but also were disgusted by them watching the clock all the time and working only because they get paid
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The interaction between two women was screenshotted by rax ‘sandra lee enthusiast’ king with her own sarcastic twist and the tweet went viral with 95k likes. It went so viral that it possibly had an impact on the authors of the original tweets, because ARou06’s tweet is nowhere to be found and Rebel Scum’s account has been made private.
Although ARou06 and Rebel Scum were on the same wavelength, people who saw their interaction in the screenshot mostly argued that Millennials and Gen Zs are not lazy but just overworked and underpaid.
The internet had its own perspective on this issue
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Many people pointed out very valid points. For example, David Thompson turned the tables around saying that Millennials and Gen Zs had to learn such behavior from someone, like their parents or their grandparents who now complain about them being the way they are.
Another Twitter user, enjoy car soccer, thinks that the problem might be partly caused by the older generations who are very bad at managing people, because the employees can only be as good at their job as their managers are, seeing that they give orders and show the example of work ethic.
They thought the two women needed a reality check because they somehow weren’t aware that jobs are needed to earn money to be able to survive
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Older generations call the younger ones snowflakes for complaining about everything and being too sensitive. It could very well be that Millennials and Gen Z are more sensitive, but Jennifer Robison, a senior editor at US analytics and polling company Gallup, thinks that “what appears to be needy or ‘snowflake-y’ in the young may actually just be the social norm of transparency.”
Older generations look down on young people, who like no other generation, are diagnosed with depression and anxiety so often. For them it proves the lack of resilience young people have, because they had it harder and they pushed through, but what they fail to recognize is that every generation has its own challenges.
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They pointed out that the younger generations had these bad habits instilled in them by someone, possibly the older people who raised them
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Twitter users didn’t like the degrading tone the tweets were written in and they aren’t looking forward to hearing it in real life
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The Lost Generation went through World War One, which was so traumatic that nobody could ever imagine, except for the Greatest Generation, who had to go through the same during World War Two. The Silent Generation grew up witnessing the financial collapse as a result of World War Two and some of them might have fought in the Korean or Vietnam wars.
The infamous Baby Boomers had their own issues. While Gen Z might accuse them of not having fought enough for climate change or financial inequality, they forget that they had to deal with racism and sexism first. Did you know that in the US, women couldn’t apply for credit cards separate from their husbands until the 1970s? And interracial marriage was illegal in some states until 1967?
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People shared some of their own experiences that even if they try to comply to what is expected for them, it is never good enough
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All of these experiences are incomparable and people are products of their time’s economy, education accessibility, technology, politics and societal norms. It’s easy to tell Millennials not to buy avocados and to save for a house when you don’t need to worry about it anymore. But estate prices go up disproportionally faster than average wages, which is what older people don’t take into account.
Accusing Gen Z of being weak is also unproductive because older people might think that expressing one’s feelings and being open about your problems is a weakness as they themselves were taught to suppress them. However, young people see vulnerability as empowering and talking about your problems is considered a way to solve them.
They also pointed out the discrepancies in those Twitter users’ arguments, suspecting they don’t completely know what they are talking about
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And showed how them accusing Millennials and Gen Z of being entitled kind of reflected their own entitlement
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All it takes to understand one another is a little bit of compassion. Accusing one another just creates a vicious circle of deepening the generational gap and exaggerating the stereotypes related to a certain age group.
Maybe you think differently and you see just one generation in the wrong? What do you think of the remarks made by ARou06 and Rebel Scum? Do you agree with them or are the opinions in the thread more near to your heart? Let’s discuss it in the comments!
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No. GenX is not like that. Did you even listen to music in the '90s? We were the ones exhorting you to Rage Against the Machine while seeking Nirvana in a Soundgarden. We were Alice, and those Chains were damn heavy. It's literally in our generation's name, ffs. X. X means ignored. It means discarded. It means canceled. We get it. You're looking for Boomers and Silent Generation, not GenX.
as a gen x'er, i personally LOVE the gen z's and millennials who are putting companies in their place. why didn't we think of this lol
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Boomer here: when I entered the workplace in 1986, I heard the same thing about my generation being entitled, blah blah blah. Millennials and Gen Z: you do you. Us Boomers and the generations coming after you will all benefit from your creative approach to working. Show us how it's done! Just don't screw with my retirement!
Gen X here. Myself and those in my age group, Midwesterners, mostly metropolitans, PURPOSELY... again... ON PURPOSE, raised our children with DELIBERATE CONTRARINESS to everything boomers imposed on US. From paternal abuse to the idea that abuse from an employer was to be expected, to religion and "government", we WANTED our millennial children to stay F-YOU and your tired, racist, regressive, selfish attitude about kids AND work AND queer love AND mixing races AND living and loving with people you consider "them". I hope it's forever our legacy!
I'm Gen X and I am raising my Zoomer kid to work hard, do well and value themself. I absolutely do not want them to overwork for underpay like I did for decades.
I'm a mid Boomer. My primary motivation for work was money for a home, food, all that stuff, preferably while being treated humanely and work with a purpose other than making a rich guy richer. My dad was born in 1919. Except for WWII, those were his motivations, plus giving his kids a better life. His dad came here in the late 1800s and mined coal. Why? See above. Entire generations are not selfish, clueless, sociopaths. They're in every generation.
Hey man, remove Gen X from this narrative. We are not our Boomer parents and do not share their narrow views. We are the OG target generation for Boomer criticism - we got every single out of touch complaint from them long before Millennials and Gen Z were even a thing.
Boomer parent? I'm 51. That's Gen X. My sister is 62. She's sweet. My parents are from 1935. They're not boomers.
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That one guy—I can’t believe he lumped Gen X with Boomers. Leave Gen X out of this, we don’t care what you do. We really don’t.
I'm a GenXer and I've been recruiting and hiring Y and Z for over a decade. These generalizations have lingered that whole time. Are there people like this? Yes. Are there more in these generations? Maybe. But they are not the majority and every generation has them. And older generations have been complaining along with each new group.
this is a disgusting display of arrogance and misinformation about the past
Eh my mum is a boomer and she worked long hours as a hotel maid and still never made enough to buy her own house!!!! Not everyone was lucky enough to have these opportunities even in the 70s or 80s. I will not stand back and let people attack my mother just because she was brought up in different decade! I tell you now.. your future children will blame u for things that u don't realise u are doing right now! Stop HATING on generations let's come together and help out for THE FUTURE!
Gen X here. I used to work in a competitive niche market. My manager was a boomer. The boss around my age. We used to work until the job is finished, not until the clock says it. Most of the overtime was counted, and compensated. But the thin is, if we didn't finish the job, the client might to the concurrent place. And, at the end, we may had lost clients, and close the company, as it happened with my first work place because. We had paid trainees (Gen Y, millenials, call them as you want) that we were supposed to train for the job. They were half in school, half in work place. When there were a then compensated overtime to finish an important job, they never stayed to help us. When it came to hire them for good, they were surprised not to be kept. Of course I worked for the salary too. But if I wanted, I could have done a boring job for a government administration for the same money, for example.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but another title for "millennial" is "GenY". ▪▪ So I thought the titles given to the last 3 generation are quite accurate. ▪▪ GenX = exhorting, forced cancelling ▪ GenY = exorbitant asking/searching for explanations/answers ▪ GenZ = realizing that the force of GenX was a good start & GenY got the basics for GenZ to tie up the loose strings actively for the following generation (apparently GenAlpha) to get a clean over and a new Start. ▪▪ Basically 3 generations (XYZ) working together, takeing one step after the next. Breaking out, trying to understand, takeing action to correct known issues. Like a child growing up.
"Anyone who has any motivation to work other than A Paycheck is deeply unwell." I am deeply sorry for this person. While of course work life should never be a be-all and end-all situation, a person should have a goal in life other than earning money, which they should be persuing through work. Not for corporations, not for bosses and managers, but one's own self satisfaction. If they cannot find that purpose I connot see how they cannot end up being bitter and resentful for what they do everyday of their life up until retirement. Which is a looong time.
So if someone dropped a billion dollars in your bank account you would still do the same job? This is the situation alot of people live in short of "hard" sacrifice they will never have a Job that satisfies them with out some miracle. So thier goal is to work to pay the bills and literally pray they can find someway to get more money to afford a house or security so they don't end up a "horse with a broken leg" and have no source of income, no property to thier name that won't be taken within 90 days and all it takes is one "bad" day same with that miracle, but wich one is more likely? As with everything satisfaction comes after survival which alot of people don't get witch 40 hr a week so they work more which just exacerbates the problem more.
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all the gen z/millennial responses were great, but this could have been summed up with two words: "ok Boomer 🙄" /j
My mother tells me her first job paid 4.50 an hour when I talk about how much my job pays. 4.50 in 1982 was worth about 13 dollars. I make about half that.
Totally did this... if my lunch was at 12 to 1230, and i started lunch late (for doing that extra 5 min of work), i couldn't come back at 1235, i still only had until 1230. So why would i work into my lunch just to give myself a shorter lunch??? This is a learned behavior, and i was taught that i should wait rather than starting somethong that would make me late to lunch/end of shift.
We have a guy at work right now that will take his hour lunch, where we have them only clock out for 30 minutes, and then he will order Uber Eats to the shop and eat after he gers back off break. He shows up 15 minutes late every day and clocks in on time, takes countless cigarette breaks, he attitude toward me, and generally drags down the productivity of everyone he works with. I worked with similar people when I started working 25 years ago. He commented the other say that this was his first job with "better pay" ($18/hr plus full healthcare). There are always bad apples in every subset of people, you have to try not to label the entire group from the actions of the individual.
A lot of it is how they are being raised, others, who knows. I blame my generation, generation X. Not all of my generation. That's when teen pregnancy started. Teenage girls thought having a kid would be like babysitting. They found out the hard way it is not. And the fathers who did not want have a kid, trying to do the right thing. Raising a kid is a lot more than expected, so instead of raising them, they give them and let them do whatever, so they are left alone. I've seen it. I do have 3 adult children. I was hard on my kids. I taught them what the world is like. It's not fair, things won't make sense, working hard doesn't pay off. All that said, I told them, that is no excuse to not work hard and do your best. I taught them morals and values, they had and still do have consequences to their actions, being positive or negative.
Sorry have more. My x-husband was one of those parents to let them do whatever to leave him alone. My kids have respect for me, not their dad. They know respect is earned, trust is earned, give some a chance before having an opinion about them. They are good, hard workers. Social media makes things worse, by telling them they are entitled. Unfortunately, it started with my generation, and has gotten worse. We are the last generation (the majority of us), to have morals, values, and worth ethnic. Your word is all you really have and my kids have been taught this and everything I have mentioned, at an early age. I still tell them this
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These kinds of arguments never end. I'm GenX and being the brunt of boomer tantrums for a long time, I can say it's the same for every generation. There will always be people with good work ethics and then there are bottomfeeding douchenuggets that can't be trusted with the simplest of tasks. There is really no point in generalizing.
Do the job we agreed on when I hired you and don't worry about more. Caught up? Go play on your phone if you want. How is this hard to understand? I'm a capitalist. I need happy employees, not burned out ones. I'm also a poor one so I can't use benefits to bribe people.
Yesss exactly I didn't bust my butt for 45 mins to get an hours work done just for you to say im lazy because I didn't do 90 mins in an hour otherwise you get the burnt out "minimum" work where it takes 1 hour to get 1 hours worth of work wether it was done in 2 mins or 59 mins.
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But....they are entitled. Two generations of people who grew up being told "you can be anything you want to be, as long as you TRY your hardest" with no acknowledgement to the reality that sometimes, in fact many times, your hardest just isn't good enough, and certainly not as good as someone else. Just because you want something, doesn't mean you deserve it. It does not mean you've earned it. Which is an important distinction when what you want, is something that someone else has to GIVE YOU. Look at uber and lyft. Rideshare companies added nearly 80,000 cars to the market, on top of the 14,000 cabs already regulated in NYC. People met the loft goal of having a license, a smart phone, downloading an app, and declaring "i have a career! I DESERVE $30 an hour" When do they work? whenever they want? what happens if they don't show up for 3 months? NOTHING! They can just start up again! Just like a real job! Stop treating every complaint they have as valid.
As with previous posts, I have said, all of the younger generations pointing at us boomers, guess what? We were going after our parents generation in a big way. Blamed them for everything, and saying some pretty awful things and pointing fingers at them (see Vietnam War). This the story with every generation. The older generation is responsible for EVERYTHING wrong in the world. The younger generations are going to fix EVERYTHING. No, we aren't responsible for EVERYTHING that is wrong in this world. Sometimes it goes back a few generations. We thought we were going to fix EVERYTHING. Obviously, we didn't. But we didn't totally wreck it either. Everyone eventually learns that you can't fix everything. But, what every generation can do is to keep trying and never give up. You guys are on the right track about so many things. Don't give up. Just do be prepared for the day when you are the "boomers" so to speak. This generations thing does come full circle.
Are there deeply entitled gen z'ers and millennials who can test the patience of a saint? Yup. Are there terrible older bosses out there who act unreasonably? Also yup. You can't say one group or the other is the bad guy, there are faulty people on both ends. Also, don't drag gen-x into this, we don't give af. It's kind of what we're known for.
I work in a bike shop. Boomers come in and tell me when they will be picking up their bicycle. Not asking when it will be done. I have told some we don't have the parts and they tell me to order them. Wow why didn't I think of that? Can't get parts, fine I'll just leave it here. So I get to store it indefinitely. Then they call every day or two for a progress report that takes at least 30 minutes to explain again. Yeah boomers and I'm 58.
I've been thinking about some of the old guys I used to work with. The ones I'm thinking about were laid back and tried to get away with doing as little work as possible and not get in trouble for it. This isn't anything new, it's just that people have really short memories and they ascribe it to the young.
Who cares what people on Twitter think? Nothing but people whining about crap and dumb celebrities that no one cares or should care about.
I'm a millennial and I would not say we are "entitled". We are rather disappointed. Millennials and gen Z are raising important issues to deal with, I can see how other generations can be irritated by that but that doesn't mean entitled. No one likes to be questioned. We came in to the work force and quickly learned that even with education doesn't mean that you'll get a fair chance in life. And without it you get no chance at all. Furthermore that sexism and racism are still something very real and needs to be dealt with as well as actually focus on mental health and how we can keep a work life balance.
I'm an elder millennial (born in 83) yes, many people born after about 1995 are entitled. When i was a teenager, it was the norm for kids to get shitty, part time, entry level jobs at 14/15 years old. That's when we started entering the workforce, and realizing those jobs suck, but also acknowledging the fact that they suck in large part because they are able to be done by idiot kids with no life experience, nor meaningful education. It was motivating in being a little more realistic in avoiding entry level/minimum wage/no skill labor force for one second longer than required. We actually had the capacity to assess our skills and weaknesses, the forethought to look further down the potential hurdles of a career path beyond "i wanna!" and just assume it was all going to work out because we're awesome! 1/2
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I tip my hat to the young upstarts! You work, you get paid and if you’re not getting paid you don’t work. That whole “team player” theme works great for the millionaires playing professional sports but for the rest of us it is a curse.
Idk man, I've had some bad Gen X bosses over the years. It's the older half of Gen X I have a bone to pick with. The younger half just wants to watch the world burn, at least the ones I know.
Yep I think Gen X is the great divide the younger for the most part are inline with with millennial and etc. While the older ones want the same thing as the boomers which is to push the economic catastrophe on the next gens so they get thier retirement at a reasonable age.( your whole retirement isn't spent dying or doing hospital visits and counting pennies. P.S. Which I would be all for you can't say gas is expensive till we are bidding on the last barrel till then it's "endless" /s
Load More Replies... As a boomer, born mid 1950's, my father brought me up with the belief that you work your contracted hours, get paid overtime for anything else and your employer does not own you. The only exception was when you were in the services, the contract is different then. He was born in 1930 and he was influenced by his father who had the same attitude but with anger. He grew up when companies expected you to work for them for life but would bung you out when it suited them. He was born in 1901. So in the UK we have a long history of "watching the clock" having said that the majority of us will step up and do the extra when required. I think that is because we are better protected here. Firms that try to bring in US labour practices rarely prosper.
Boomers: low self esteem, submissively complient to authority, fear of losing job because: needs to feed family. Gen Z: healthy self esteem, questions the status quo in order to change it to fit a more humanitarian society, the new self-made man/woman/non-binaries who are aware nothing is for granted in this life so you must be flexible and adaptable to change. Always finds new ways of making money or other forms of living. As a Gen X myself I welcome the new generations who guide us into the Aquarian age.
as a person in gen z, no, we don't have high self esteem, we have horrible self esteem
Load More Replies... Spoken like a crusty old man. Doesn't mean you are one, but you definitely act like one.
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"Hey, you will never have what older people had and you need to get over it and step up for an employer that will underpay you and replace you at any given moment." I don't see a reason not to do the bare minimum. That's what you get paid to do - not extra. You want extra? Pay us a fair extra. Businessess out here in 2020 "nobody wants to work" while creating fake job openings to get that PPP money, all the while accusing us of not working to abuse unemployment benefits. Capitalism goes both ways and anyone who thinks otherwise is damaged goods.
Load More Replies... No. GenX is not like that. Did you even listen to music in the '90s? We were the ones exhorting you to Rage Against the Machine while seeking Nirvana in a Soundgarden. We were Alice, and those Chains were damn heavy. It's literally in our generation's name, ffs. X. X means ignored. It means discarded. It means canceled. We get it. You're looking for Boomers and Silent Generation, not GenX.
as a gen x'er, i personally LOVE the gen z's and millennials who are putting companies in their place. why didn't we think of this lol
Load More Replies... Boomer here: when I entered the workplace in 1986, I heard the same thing about my generation being entitled, blah blah blah. Millennials and Gen Z: you do you. Us Boomers and the generations coming after you will all benefit from your creative approach to working. Show us how it's done! Just don't screw with my retirement!
Gen X here. Myself and those in my age group, Midwesterners, mostly metropolitans, PURPOSELY... again... ON PURPOSE, raised our children with DELIBERATE CONTRARINESS to everything boomers imposed on US. From paternal abuse to the idea that abuse from an employer was to be expected, to religion and "government", we WANTED our millennial children to stay F-YOU and your tired, racist, regressive, selfish attitude about kids AND work AND queer love AND mixing races AND living and loving with people you consider "them". I hope it's forever our legacy!
I'm Gen X and I am raising my Zoomer kid to work hard, do well and value themself. I absolutely do not want them to overwork for underpay like I did for decades.
I'm a mid Boomer. My primary motivation for work was money for a home, food, all that stuff, preferably while being treated humanely and work with a purpose other than making a rich guy richer. My dad was born in 1919. Except for WWII, those were his motivations, plus giving his kids a better life. His dad came here in the late 1800s and mined coal. Why? See above. Entire generations are not selfish, clueless, sociopaths. They're in every generation.
Hey man, remove Gen X from this narrative. We are not our Boomer parents and do not share their narrow views. We are the OG target generation for Boomer criticism - we got every single out of touch complaint from them long before Millennials and Gen Z were even a thing.
Boomer parent? I'm 51. That's Gen X. My sister is 62. She's sweet. My parents are from 1935. They're not boomers.
Load More Replies... That one guy—I can’t believe he lumped Gen X with Boomers. Leave Gen X out of this, we don’t care what you do. We really don’t.
I'm a GenXer and I've been recruiting and hiring Y and Z for over a decade. These generalizations have lingered that whole time. Are there people like this? Yes. Are there more in these generations? Maybe. But they are not the majority and every generation has them. And older generations have been complaining along with each new group.
this is a disgusting display of arrogance and misinformation about the past
Eh my mum is a boomer and she worked long hours as a hotel maid and still never made enough to buy her own house!!!! Not everyone was lucky enough to have these opportunities even in the 70s or 80s. I will not stand back and let people attack my mother just because she was brought up in different decade! I tell you now.. your future children will blame u for things that u don't realise u are doing right now! Stop HATING on generations let's come together and help out for THE FUTURE!
Gen X here. I used to work in a competitive niche market. My manager was a boomer. The boss around my age. We used to work until the job is finished, not until the clock says it. Most of the overtime was counted, and compensated. But the thin is, if we didn't finish the job, the client might to the concurrent place. And, at the end, we may had lost clients, and close the company, as it happened with my first work place because. We had paid trainees (Gen Y, millenials, call them as you want) that we were supposed to train for the job. They were half in school, half in work place. When there were a then compensated overtime to finish an important job, they never stayed to help us. When it came to hire them for good, they were surprised not to be kept. Of course I worked for the salary too. But if I wanted, I could have done a boring job for a government administration for the same money, for example.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but another title for "millennial" is "GenY". ▪▪ So I thought the titles given to the last 3 generation are quite accurate. ▪▪ GenX = exhorting, forced cancelling ▪ GenY = exorbitant asking/searching for explanations/answers ▪ GenZ = realizing that the force of GenX was a good start & GenY got the basics for GenZ to tie up the loose strings actively for the following generation (apparently GenAlpha) to get a clean over and a new Start. ▪▪ Basically 3 generations (XYZ) working together, takeing one step after the next. Breaking out, trying to understand, takeing action to correct known issues. Like a child growing up.
"Anyone who has any motivation to work other than A Paycheck is deeply unwell." I am deeply sorry for this person. While of course work life should never be a be-all and end-all situation, a person should have a goal in life other than earning money, which they should be persuing through work. Not for corporations, not for bosses and managers, but one's own self satisfaction. If they cannot find that purpose I connot see how they cannot end up being bitter and resentful for what they do everyday of their life up until retirement. Which is a looong time.
So if someone dropped a billion dollars in your bank account you would still do the same job? This is the situation alot of people live in short of "hard" sacrifice they will never have a Job that satisfies them with out some miracle. So thier goal is to work to pay the bills and literally pray they can find someway to get more money to afford a house or security so they don't end up a "horse with a broken leg" and have no source of income, no property to thier name that won't be taken within 90 days and all it takes is one "bad" day same with that miracle, but wich one is more likely? As with everything satisfaction comes after survival which alot of people don't get witch 40 hr a week so they work more which just exacerbates the problem more.
Load More Replies... all the gen z/millennial responses were great, but this could have been summed up with two words: "ok Boomer 🙄" /j
My mother tells me her first job paid 4.50 an hour when I talk about how much my job pays. 4.50 in 1982 was worth about 13 dollars. I make about half that.
Totally did this... if my lunch was at 12 to 1230, and i started lunch late (for doing that extra 5 min of work), i couldn't come back at 1235, i still only had until 1230. So why would i work into my lunch just to give myself a shorter lunch??? This is a learned behavior, and i was taught that i should wait rather than starting somethong that would make me late to lunch/end of shift.
We have a guy at work right now that will take his hour lunch, where we have them only clock out for 30 minutes, and then he will order Uber Eats to the shop and eat after he gers back off break. He shows up 15 minutes late every day and clocks in on time, takes countless cigarette breaks, he attitude toward me, and generally drags down the productivity of everyone he works with. I worked with similar people when I started working 25 years ago. He commented the other say that this was his first job with "better pay" ($18/hr plus full healthcare). There are always bad apples in every subset of people, you have to try not to label the entire group from the actions of the individual.
A lot of it is how they are being raised, others, who knows. I blame my generation, generation X. Not all of my generation. That's when teen pregnancy started. Teenage girls thought having a kid would be like babysitting. They found out the hard way it is not. And the fathers who did not want have a kid, trying to do the right thing. Raising a kid is a lot more than expected, so instead of raising them, they give them and let them do whatever, so they are left alone. I've seen it. I do have 3 adult children. I was hard on my kids. I taught them what the world is like. It's not fair, things won't make sense, working hard doesn't pay off. All that said, I told them, that is no excuse to not work hard and do your best. I taught them morals and values, they had and still do have consequences to their actions, being positive or negative.
Sorry have more. My x-husband was one of those parents to let them do whatever to leave him alone. My kids have respect for me, not their dad. They know respect is earned, trust is earned, give some a chance before having an opinion about them. They are good, hard workers. Social media makes things worse, by telling them they are entitled. Unfortunately, it started with my generation, and has gotten worse. We are the last generation (the majority of us), to have morals, values, and worth ethnic. Your word is all you really have and my kids have been taught this and everything I have mentioned, at an early age. I still tell them this
Load More Replies... These kinds of arguments never end. I'm GenX and being the brunt of boomer tantrums for a long time, I can say it's the same for every generation. There will always be people with good work ethics and then there are bottomfeeding douchenuggets that can't be trusted with the simplest of tasks. There is really no point in generalizing.
Do the job we agreed on when I hired you and don't worry about more. Caught up? Go play on your phone if you want. How is this hard to understand? I'm a capitalist. I need happy employees, not burned out ones. I'm also a poor one so I can't use benefits to bribe people.
Yesss exactly I didn't bust my butt for 45 mins to get an hours work done just for you to say im lazy because I didn't do 90 mins in an hour otherwise you get the burnt out "minimum" work where it takes 1 hour to get 1 hours worth of work wether it was done in 2 mins or 59 mins.
Load More Replies... But....they are entitled. Two generations of people who grew up being told "you can be anything you want to be, as long as you TRY your hardest" with no acknowledgement to the reality that sometimes, in fact many times, your hardest just isn't good enough, and certainly not as good as someone else. Just because you want something, doesn't mean you deserve it. It does not mean you've earned it. Which is an important distinction when what you want, is something that someone else has to GIVE YOU. Look at uber and lyft. Rideshare companies added nearly 80,000 cars to the market, on top of the 14,000 cabs already regulated in NYC. People met the loft goal of having a license, a smart phone, downloading an app, and declaring "i have a career! I DESERVE $30 an hour" When do they work? whenever they want? what happens if they don't show up for 3 months? NOTHING! They can just start up again! Just like a real job! Stop treating every complaint they have as valid.
As with previous posts, I have said, all of the younger generations pointing at us boomers, guess what? We were going after our parents generation in a big way. Blamed them for everything, and saying some pretty awful things and pointing fingers at them (see Vietnam War). This the story with every generation. The older generation is responsible for EVERYTHING wrong in the world. The younger generations are going to fix EVERYTHING. No, we aren't responsible for EVERYTHING that is wrong in this world. Sometimes it goes back a few generations. We thought we were going to fix EVERYTHING. Obviously, we didn't. But we didn't totally wreck it either. Everyone eventually learns that you can't fix everything. But, what every generation can do is to keep trying and never give up. You guys are on the right track about so many things. Don't give up. Just do be prepared for the day when you are the "boomers" so to speak. This generations thing does come full circle.
Are there deeply entitled gen z'ers and millennials who can test the patience of a saint? Yup. Are there terrible older bosses out there who act unreasonably? Also yup. You can't say one group or the other is the bad guy, there are faulty people on both ends. Also, don't drag gen-x into this, we don't give af. It's kind of what we're known for.
I work in a bike shop. Boomers come in and tell me when they will be picking up their bicycle. Not asking when it will be done. I have told some we don't have the parts and they tell me to order them. Wow why didn't I think of that? Can't get parts, fine I'll just leave it here. So I get to store it indefinitely. Then they call every day or two for a progress report that takes at least 30 minutes to explain again. Yeah boomers and I'm 58.
I've been thinking about some of the old guys I used to work with. The ones I'm thinking about were laid back and tried to get away with doing as little work as possible and not get in trouble for it. This isn't anything new, it's just that people have really short memories and they ascribe it to the young.
Who cares what people on Twitter think? Nothing but people whining about crap and dumb celebrities that no one cares or should care about.
I'm a millennial and I would not say we are "entitled". We are rather disappointed. Millennials and gen Z are raising important issues to deal with, I can see how other generations can be irritated by that but that doesn't mean entitled. No one likes to be questioned. We came in to the work force and quickly learned that even with education doesn't mean that you'll get a fair chance in life. And without it you get no chance at all. Furthermore that sexism and racism are still something very real and needs to be dealt with as well as actually focus on mental health and how we can keep a work life balance.
I'm an elder millennial (born in 83) yes, many people born after about 1995 are entitled. When i was a teenager, it was the norm for kids to get shitty, part time, entry level jobs at 14/15 years old. That's when we started entering the workforce, and realizing those jobs suck, but also acknowledging the fact that they suck in large part because they are able to be done by idiot kids with no life experience, nor meaningful education. It was motivating in being a little more realistic in avoiding entry level/minimum wage/no skill labor force for one second longer than required. We actually had the capacity to assess our skills and weaknesses, the forethought to look further down the potential hurdles of a career path beyond "i wanna!" and just assume it was all going to work out because we're awesome! 1/2
Load More Replies... I tip my hat to the young upstarts! You work, you get paid and if you’re not getting paid you don’t work. That whole “team player” theme works great for the millionaires playing professional sports but for the rest of us it is a curse.
Idk man, I've had some bad Gen X bosses over the years. It's the older half of Gen X I have a bone to pick with. The younger half just wants to watch the world burn, at least the ones I know.
Yep I think Gen X is the great divide the younger for the most part are inline with with millennial and etc. While the older ones want the same thing as the boomers which is to push the economic catastrophe on the next gens so they get thier retirement at a reasonable age.( your whole retirement isn't spent dying or doing hospital visits and counting pennies. P.S. Which I would be all for you can't say gas is expensive till we are bidding on the last barrel till then it's "endless" /s
Load More Replies... As a boomer, born mid 1950's, my father brought me up with the belief that you work your contracted hours, get paid overtime for anything else and your employer does not own you. The only exception was when you were in the services, the contract is different then. He was born in 1930 and he was influenced by his father who had the same attitude but with anger. He grew up when companies expected you to work for them for life but would bung you out when it suited them. He was born in 1901. So in the UK we have a long history of "watching the clock" having said that the majority of us will step up and do the extra when required. I think that is because we are better protected here. Firms that try to bring in US labour practices rarely prosper.
Boomers: low self esteem, submissively complient to authority, fear of losing job because: needs to feed family. Gen Z: healthy self esteem, questions the status quo in order to change it to fit a more humanitarian society, the new self-made man/woman/non-binaries who are aware nothing is for granted in this life so you must be flexible and adaptable to change. Always finds new ways of making money or other forms of living. As a Gen X myself I welcome the new generations who guide us into the Aquarian age.
as a person in gen z, no, we don't have high self esteem, we have horrible self esteem
Load More Replies... Spoken like a crusty old man. Doesn't mean you are one, but you definitely act like one.
Load More Replies... "Hey, you will never have what older people had and you need to get over it and step up for an employer that will underpay you and replace you at any given moment." I don't see a reason not to do the bare minimum. That's what you get paid to do - not extra. You want extra? Pay us a fair extra. Businessess out here in 2020 "nobody wants to work" while creating fake job openings to get that PPP money, all the while accusing us of not working to abuse unemployment benefits. Capitalism goes both ways and anyone who thinks otherwise is damaged goods.
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