‘Chipotle’ Sign Saying Staff ‘Walked Out’ Goes Viral (Plus 22 More Similar Signs From Other US Businesses)
The pandemic is not only affecting global public health but also causing chaos for the economy, disrupting supply chains and causing labor shortages for businesses around the world.
Economists say that not only changing demographics like aging and retiring employees are a factor behind the shortages, but also border controls, immigration limits, and demands for better pay and flexible working arrangements.
The latest labor data from the United States, for example, shows that the number of people who are willing to walk away from their jobs or to switch employment is growing. A U.S. Labor Department's Job Openings and Labor Turnover Survey, released in October, showed there were 10.4 million job openings in August whereas the number of people leaving their jobs (the so-called "quits rate") rose to 4.3 million, the highest level seen on records dating back to December 2000. And it's showing.
On Monday, a Chipotle location in Kentucky was forced to temporarily close its doors after half of its staff walked out on the job
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A video showing the simple sign the employees left went viral on TikTok in the hours following the mass resignation, and local Kentucky reporter Doug Proffitt also posted a picture of it on his Facebook, adding a statement from Chipotle itself.
The location's general manager, Raven Whallen, provided this explanation when reached by the Louisville Eccentric Observer: a series of unexpected staff resignations forced the Chipotle location to temporarily close its doors on Monday, but that didn't prevent it from reopening Tuesday morning. Apparently, the restaurant lost three employees on Monday. One had already put in her two-week notice but decided to leave her position early. Another was too frightened to return to work after discovering that her car's catalytic converter was stolen and her tires slit. A manager also left their position, leaving the store acutely understaffed.
But Chipotle, like many restaurants and fast-food locations across the US, has been struggling to maintain its employee count. The ongoing pandemic, paired with difficult customers, unsympathetic corporate management, and low pay, make these positions difficult to sell, even for the industry's typically young workers. As noted by Whallen, "A lot of people don't want to work nights, and if they do, they’re underage. So, it's kind of hard because they all have to be off at a certain time. We have to follow the labor laws."
In a similar case, one Dunkin' Donuts worker put his pay stub on blast, saying he doesn’t get paid enough for the misery he goes through
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TikToker @scorchedearthcorey blasted Dunkin' Donuts for not compensating their employees enough. "I just want you to look at this because, for some reason, some people think that other people are there to entertain them," he said in his viral clip."This is my main source of income, to pay child support ... Do you think with my 73 hours of f****** misery and bulls***, that you should come and try to bother me more? People think customer service is end-all-be-all. Let me explain something to you: I do not get paid enough to listen to you. I do not get paid enough to take your B.S. I do not get paid enough for you to treat me like I'm your entertainment."
People think the ordeal at the Kentucky Chipotle is a sign of a larger problem
And they're right, similar signs have been popping up all over the United States
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Nobody Wants To Work
Much Better Than The “Nobody Wants To Work” Signs Many Restaurants Put Up Now
It's Happening
If the goal of capitalists is to eventually reduce labor costs to zero, who will be able to buy their products? Robots?
It's About Time
"Democrats" give free money.... I swear my first Covid relief check had Donald Duck's signature on it... It's Donald Duck, right? I love it when people don't understand the government as a whole.
Local Wendy’s Meets Its End
How Are You Guys Doing?
So I wouldn't go to a Chipotle if you paid me $1,000!! People have short memories!! Don't you remember the thousand of people who got sick all over the country from eating there: noruvirus,e coli and salmonella???!!!
Sorry But We Are Closed
Surprisingly honest statement - or is that sarcasm? Comes out to the same thing, but fun to read, anyway.
My Local Burger King The Other Night
No More Exploiting Us
Multiple chipotles with employee walkouts- makes me think it's a corporate issue and not the local management?
They Left Off
Nobody Wants To Work
No One Wants To Work Anymore
wow, this is literally lower than what we pay a gardener in africa. I'm really not surprised.
Ummm, what do you pay your gardeners? Sounds like they deserve better pay as well.
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Some states in the U.S. still have a serving minimum wage. In theory, your tips are supposed to make up the difference to make your income minimum wage. If not, your employer is supposed to pay the difference. As someone who worked one of these jobs, I can the employer almost never payed the difference.
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I had my first part time job when I was 13. I was paid $3.50 per hour with breaks. In Australia. In 1985. These American wages are criminal!
As an adult in a large city in the U.S. in 2012, I made $2.13/hr plus tips. At that time $1,200/mo was average rent for my city. And American boomers wonder why millennials are broke...
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Texas pays like this, also that's all those delivery service drivers are paid, plus their tips, so tip your delivery drivers, waitresses and waiters. Gas is not cheap for the delivery drivers to cater to your convenience so tip them appropriately.
I made a s**t ton of money as a server, then even more as a bartender. I understand people not from the US don't understand tips and such. There were bad days when I walked out from a 6 to 8 hour shift with $200. There were average days when that was $300-400. Then there were some saturday nights bartending where I had $800-1000 (which I put in the restaurant safe and got it in the morning, or had the manager deposit it for me since I had the same bank as the restaurant). So no, they didn't get paid $21.50 for a 10 hr day. When I retire from what I do now, I'm gonna part time bartend again.
'Sounds like you were at a well attended restaurant/bar. I worked at a couple dives that sometimes would have nights without customers. I'd walk home from a six hour shift with $15. Your personal experience doesn't mean the industry doesn't need to do better for its employees overall.
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The were probably paying less than the shell was for petrol per litre.
Nobody Wants To Work Anymore
Store Closed
Nobody Wants To Work Anymore
Try paying your workers and they might show up... These signs are shocking.... :)
No One Wants To Work
I guess no one is wasting this employer's time by helping him make a living. He must not want to do what it takes to get ahead, the lazy bum.
New ‘Nobody Wants To Work At A Burger Joint Where They Can’t Afford The Food’ Hours
What's Going On With Fast Food Employees Quitting?
This Sign At A New York Burger Joint
The Pharmacy In My Pharmacy Is Closed. I Was Supposed To Pick Up My Diabetes Meds Here…didn’t Get A Call, Message, Nothing…
Sids In Aptos. Nobody Wants To Work For You Anymore!
No CEO should earn more than 10x their lowest paid employee. It is the employees who keep the company open and rolling, and they should all be compensated fairly. No, don't raise the prices to pay them more- cut the top salaries and use that money to pay them more.
You mean, the way it used to be? Funny how the worst offenders are always reminiscing about, and want to return to, the “good old days”, but want to cherry-pick which parts they want to come back.
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C'mmon Americans, Boycot those assholes, rise up, We are on your side. GO
Yes! I have no skin in the game, but I've been following these types of news from the US with growing optimism. Seems like now's the time to make the real changes.
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Amazing. It’s rife. Us work culture needs a total overhaul. Even my relatively chill boss needs to be reminded that I’m not staying after my paid time and they can’t keep leaving extra things for me to do. She’s just so used to not thinking about it.
Not just the US sadly. I left my job after 12 years because Headoffice decided to reduse costs by reducing personel. Why pay 3 workers when you can make 1 worker run the whole shop, 9 hour shift, no break, easy right? Now the shop is only open a couple hours a day because most of the remaining staff quit
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middle aged female here- 20+yrs of varying experience. Associates degree. Looking for p/t work. over 100 applications out. 10 call backs. 3 interviews. zero job offers. local walgreens- 5 positions open. applied for all 5. got email stating- AFTER REVIEW OF YOUR APPLICATION AND QUALIFICATIONS WE HAVE DECIDED TO MOVE ON TO OTHER APPLICANTS.....my associates degree isn't good enough for cashier? now hiring is a lie
Due to your education and experience, they assume you will walk out the door the moment a better opportunity arises. Been on a few hiring committees, and this is the general consensus for over-qualified applicants.
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To me, the best thing to come out of this pandemic is the collusion of low paid workers to basically unionize. I think it's great! For decades in the US, the businesses have been treating folks like crap. Low pay, long hours, crap benefits, etc. And now they are having a hard time understanding that people are over it. Union busting laws, the 2000 bailout of Wall Street while citizens were left to suffer, the shift of the tax burden from the wealthy and businesses to regular citizens have separated us into 2 classes, the rich and everyone else. The funniest thing about this is whining about the government stimulus. There is an easy solution. Offer livable wages and benefits and poof, you aren't closing your doors. But that idea is so foreign to these business owners that they have to close their doors rather than pay people. The irony here is (I hope) that those that choose that path will eventually be on the other end of this and will (finally) understand what the people go through.
@Effin Fred so go to college and be in debt for the next 30 years? Everything needs to change. "bitching about $12/hour" is justified. People need a livable wage WITHOUT the debt of higher education.
Load More Replies... The same for colleges and universities. Wages have only risen around 20% over the past couple of decades, but university costs have gone up 170%. Why? Overpaid administrators, of which there are too many anyway. The uni here pays the president a couple of million US dollars, the various sports coaches around US$50 million collectively, and rare is the mid-level administrator who is not getting US$200K or more.
Funny how capitalist bosses dropped that old " supply and demand " mantra when the demand for labor outstripped the supply.
"We can't afford to buy decent wages because we're too cheap" is the biggest lie. You won't pay decent wages because you first take 90% of the profits for your own self before thinking about the people who got you your profit.
I don't like the titles saying "Nobody wants to work." We all want to work, we just want compensated for our efforts. I'm a middle-aged - single mom - renter - college graduate and I can't do better than $17 an hour with the amount of quality work I do? It's not right. This has bern a long time coming.
It depends on where you live, but where I'm currently living, a lot of people (yes, even older college graduates) would be pretty happy to make $17 an hour. Average is more like $12 or $13 here.
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This makes me so frustrated! Are people just really that blind or that cruel? People are tired of being exploited and working way too hard to make somene else rich. It's time for businesses to think about sharing the wealth with their employees! And seriously, the small temporary amounts given by the government did not make people not work! It may have made people decide it was time to take a stand though.
Its funny that these people who are saying that folks dont wanna work are so old school. Doing a job that is hard on the body and mind, has crappy hours and schedules that are designed to benefit the owner and are hard for the workers, are often nasty and deal with customers who may be just as nasty, all for a wage that wouldnt be considered "good" 15 years ago is some kind of badge of honor to be worn proudly. Thats how it was for them so they think everyone has to "pay their dues"and work in the s#!t show like they did. Folks are seeing that it can and should be better. And power and Godspeed to them.
Why would anyone want to work for $20-30k a year? The people who typed those signs feel entitled to more, so why wouldn’t anyone else? Anyone with a full time job should make more than that.
these jobs weren't meant to be full time careers, but lack of good ones, forced many to treat them as such
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Any store owners that claims "nobody wants to work anymore" are Fox News humping MAGA chuds. "ThEy GeT fREe $ fRom THe gUBmINt So tHEy DoN't WAnT tO wORk" Instead of the reality, which takes self awareness and empathy (two traits chuds never have) to understand nobody wants to be over-worked and under-paid anymore. Hey, remember when Trump gave corpoations massive tax breaks that were supposed to help employee wages but instead and many of them turnaround and just bought stocks back? But the morons cheered because they got a one time $1000 bonus? If they could've instead have gotten a $0.50 raise instead they'd essentially be getting the equivalent of $1000 bonus every year? Yeah, like I said, morons.
I'm tired of hearing "no one wants to work " turning it back around on us. We WANT to work, we just don't want to be treated like crap, and given a wage that doesn't meet cost of living standards. Pay what people deserve and treat them with respect and you'll have plenty of employees !!
You should see what the US government allows charities, like Goodwill, to pay the disabled. Pennies per hour. And it's "legal."
Thing is, if there’s such a shortage of employees, how come everyone who applies isn’t getting an interview? You’d think that would make it a buyer’s (employees) market, not a seller’s (employers) market. Guess old habits (of exploitation) die hard. Here’s an interesting article about that—-and the one interview he got will piss you off even more: https://www.businessinsider.com/worker-applied-to-60-jobs-got-one-interview-labor-shortage-2021-10 .
Shareholders come first, then CEOs (who are paid with low-taxed shares), then customers, then wage employees. If this structure does not change itself, history will change it as it did previous structures.
The trend you describe is the result of the late 80s globalization and trickle down economics created by Reagan in the US, Thatcher in the UK and Mulroney in Canada. Hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs shipped off to the lowest paid labour markets overseas, thousands of middle management 'downsized', and unions busted from coast to coast. The resulting job markets of low paying service jobs were a dive to the bottom. Like my husband says " if they could pay us in Kraft dinner we'd still be starving"
Load More Replies... Uhh, "due to government handouts"??? Tell me, please, in which country government handouts are making up for the wages you'd get from even the crappiest job? I'll move there immediately.
Canada offered the equivalent of a full-time minimum wage for those who weren't eligible for unemployment but lost their income due to COVID. It was $1800/month after taxes. Supposedly a lot of people actually made more money this way because many employers don't give full-time hours so they can avoid paying benefits. Now, $1800 barely covers rent, so no one was raking it in, but in answer to your question...Canada.
Load More Replies... I am still confused by this, I worked at a nursing home as a nursing assistant. I got paid less then most gas stations and fast food restaurants. When I was planning on quitting, I was told I could be arrested for neglecting patients if I didn't show up or give them at least a 2 week notice. I agree people should be paid more, but look at how a cna is treated and paid. We have to take classes for a job that pays just above minimum wage.
Your work is so important. Society relies on CNAs to care for our most vulnerable family members, expecting you to perform backbreaking and stressful tasks on 12 hour shifts for poverty wages. Still, you're invariably kind, thoughtful, and patient caregivers. Don't know how you do it. Hope you and other CNAs find unexpected joys every day.
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When you spend years keeping your shareholders happy at the expense of your employees, this is the inevitable conclusion.
Pay people a decent wage and treat them with respect and you wouldn't have this problem. Some have figured this out. The rest can enjoying staff walking out. I fully support them walking out.
Hope this doesn't get taken wrong but this is one of the few good things to come out of the pandemic. When emergency unemployment kicked in after I lost my $10 an hour job I was finally able to do things. You don't just go back after you've seen the other side. I'm back at work again but I refused to apply for any job under $15 per hour.
Remember when one person's paycheck could support a mortgage and family? What was different then? Unions. Force the suits to share the wealth with the folks who actually do the work that makes those companies profitable. Unionize.
These companies can raise wages and even lower prices. They already have generational type wealth. So much money that their kids, kids, kid's will be okay. The way it is is not how it has to be. Us making a comfortable living wage does not inhibit these already wealthy people's wealth. Every single person from the cashier to the CEO has needs and has to eat. We the people only want enough to live and be comfortable. Not a life of luxury and it can happen but these greedy people put a stop to it. Because they don't think we are worthy of even living comfortably, let alone having a life of luxury like they do. We allow money to control us and yet it's all made up how we do it. And to say that some can live large, while other's can't. Just isn't true! We all can be okay financially but messed up people set up a system that makes sure only some can. We are human f*****g beings we matter and some of us just want to exist and be comfortable. So don't let anyone lie and say it has to be like this. It doesn't and that's a fact.
Our Chilis in town is basically the only sit down restaurant that's been closed. Once California opened the Applebee's, Red Robin and Denny's started poaching their staff with better pay. People want to work but realized they were being taken advantage of. Seriously.....$2.13 an hour?! utter BS
"No one wants to work anymore." No, nobody wants to work for you anymore. This is just the free market at work. It's not so wonderful when it swings in the other direction, is it?
Anyone else tired of them blaming it on "government handouts"? People didn't get THAT much money.
America has serious problems and has for a while. Sad to see my country going down the tubes. I don't see it getting any better any time soon either, if at all. Sad. Very sad.
Does no one understand how capitalism works? The market sets the price. If no one will work for you there is one obvious answer.
Most of these sound the same. Same "arguments" that sound almost like they´re just repeating what they've heard. Weird.
Wow Chipotle poison a mass of people then don't pay your employees? Quick way to loose business.
Long ago I hung an informative "Firings will continue until morale improves" poster up, during a reorganisation. Supervisor told me to take it down, too close to the bone.
I hate the " no one wants to work anymore" excuse. Partially, very partially, correct. MOSTLY, no one wants to work for the wages vs. the work. Most people know what the work is worth and what they are paying does not line up.
Doesn't matter what the pay is.....Noone aside have to be subject to the way restaurant staff get treated by customers and employers. The average restaurant manager works 60 plus hours a week.
It's just math.... If you work even for 12/hr. You're making 1920/mo before taxes. After taxes that's more like $1,421 Let's say you live in an ok apt or you're renting a home. At 700/mo Now you're at $721 Your car is 350/mo $371... Phone bill $80 $291... Minus groceries for one $200/mo $91.... This is assuming you're a single person, have decent credit (close to 700) and are rigorously disciplined with your finances. Either way doesn't sound like a great life. And God help you if you have a child or other dependent. I'm not so sure "no one wants to work anymore" is accurate. But nice try trying to guilt your employees into slave labor....
Its weird people keep blaming this on hand outs. People who quit don't get unemployment. The government unemployment bump is canceled. Let's be honest, these people are treated like s**t, paid s**t, and for some reason post pandemic some customers are acting even more entitled than they did before. Repeat after me. The customer is not always right. Customer service people are not your slaves. People deserve to be treated like human beings
The same is happening here in Denmark. And for the sane reason. The pay is now so low at restaurants that you actually pay to go to work. It is ridicoulus how the rich cant understand how you cannot beat a dead horse to run....
After years of saying "If you don't like it, get a better job," these yoyos are surprised. Restaurant workers suddenly had a bit of time, enough money to survive on -- and proceeded to do coding boot camps, or trade apprenticeships, or start a business themselves. Darnedest thing that they didn't come back, isn't it?
Ironic how all of them are for food service (restaurants)...as if food service is the only work that falls within the minimum wage category. It's funny as hell that all the people supporting this believe the lie that a food service increase to $15/hr minimum wage won't cause a rise in product price. The person picking the tomatoes, lettuce and onions for your favorite burger also fall in the minimum wage category. Minimum wage won't go up only in focused areas. It will go up for all who fall in the category. Those lies about the product price not going up? They are all based on calculations in which the cost of the base/raw food items does not increase. How is the cost of those base/raw food items supposed to not increase if the producer has to increase their employee pay? Labor and base/raw food are the two highest costs of operating any restaurant. There's no way to get around the product price going up if the cost of operation goes up.
Sure there is. We could stop pretending CEOs are worth 400x an average full-time employee and that shareholders need big dividends for doing nothing.
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I assume there will be a swell of applicants for jobs like nursing, construction, plumbing, electrician. All of which typically pay upwards of $15/hr with benefits depending on the state you live in.
I get it. But what are these people doing for money? Are people choosing nothing over low wages?
Most of them are doing "side hustles" uber/lyft/doordash etc. Plus any not so legal opportunities. Working for these wages, they are used to living in poverty - so you do what you need to do.
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I was at Buffalo Wild Wings yesterday and their bar section was closed as well as half of the floor section, because they had ONE employee taking orders and bringing food and drinks. Took me like 40 minutes to get my first pint of beer, but I did not complain and left extra tips to the lady - she was clearly overwhelmed and overworked.
I think what people don't get, is that the issue here is not about wanting to live of government handouts. It's about wanting to be paid a living wage, & wanting to NOT be treated like a slave. It's about us being sick & tired of being walked all over & treated like shít by big, rich, greedy companies, & jerk customers. We've been feeling this way for many years. The gov't handouts have just given us a way to finally put voice to that protest, en masse. Places like Europe & Japan don't rely on tipping culture. And they take MUCH better care of their workers, even in fast food. Much better pay, benefits, hours, holidays, vacation time, sick days, maternity AND paternity leave, even allowing their cashiers to actually SIT, while at their registers. That's all we in America want. To be treated like humans. And maybe, just maybe, by quitting en masse, now that we CAN, we can force a change for the better. Maybe our voices will finally be heard.
And just for the record, I AM working, & I have been this whole time. In food service. But, even though I am working, I totally get it. It's terrible right now. We're human beings. We deserve better. Maybe we'll finally get it. One can hope. It's not that "nobody wants to work". It's that everyone is tired of being treated like disposable, replaceable dirt. Instead of blaming the government, these companies need to take a good, long, hard look at themselves. Maybe we can finally make that happen. Again, one can hope.
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I believe the US is the only country in which this is happening. You pay and treat people like crap and they leave. Mega wealthy billionaires making record profits pay their employees starvation wages. Karma really is a bitch.
Someone I know griped about a restaurant being closed be cause "no one wants to work". I asked him, "What's your hourly wage?" He said, "$18/hr." "OK", I said, "What do you think restaurant workers are paid? If it's a national chain, they get minimum wage, $7.25, local can be as low as $2.13. You make more than double the national minimum wage, you have no room to complain." He sort of saw my point. Did it sink in? I doubt it.. But the fact is, there isn't a labor shortage, there's a wage shortage.
When you leave an abusive relationship, the abuser tries to blame you, accuses you of having "faults", and accuses you of not loving them the way that they love you. If you get tired of being insulted, yelled at, overworked, and underpaid, that is your fault. [sarcasm] If you want to get paid a living wage, it is your fault for not appreciating all that your employer does for you. [sarcasm] They give you a little bit of money, expect you to work long hours, without the breaks mandated by labor laws. They abuse you verbally and emotionally. You didn't quit because the employer, the corporate policies and their crappy managers, make your life a living hell. [Sarcasm] You quit because you are lazy, and just want the handout from the government. [sarcasm] The government subsidies I no longer available for most people. People would literally rather live on a very tight budget, scrambling to make ends meet on one income, then go back to work in a hostile abusive environment.
Company I worked at bragged about understaffing and "doing more with less". Bragged about how much profit was made. But was somehow not enough money for any raises for many years. They kept increasing workload with not enough people. Was expected to take laptop home and work until 10-11 at night. No longer work there, stress was hurting me physically and mentally.
How would you feel if healthcare workers quit because they were busy??? Suck it up and be responsible and work the jobs you have, it's how the world works. Does your education or job skill give you the requirement for being a CEO?
So you're 8 years in to a job designed and intended as a first job for 16 year olds and complain? Perhaps you lack the motivation or skill set to demand and deserve more pay. If it is so easy to build a multi-million dollar operation, why don't YOU come up with the concept, the capital, the business plan, get investors, pitch the idea, work 18 hours a day, leverage everything you own, and deal with incredible stress? Just punching a clock doesn't bring value to your employer- especially if you can be replaced by a robot. Sweating for someone else never paid well. Sweating for yourself usually reaps better pay. Let your bosses know you want to learn THEIR job. Why do you deserve more handing a bag through a window of the next high school dropout through the door can replace you with two days training? You need to better yourself and aspire to something more than a menial service job where the only requirements are to be 16, breathing and show up. Sorry, not sorry.
This is a good if orchestrated by Us the people or really bad orchestrated by them the Elite. Either way I say "Let the Revolution be telavised." War 3 begins.
wel considering these jobs are such low pay that the folks that walked out on them likely still lived with their parents so had a backup plan probably says a lot
USA my friend...covid unemployment averaged $600usd per week...after it ended you could apply an extension
Load More Replies... All you uneducated and lazy socialist need to shut up and accept your social-economic status, everyone is looking for a free lunch rather than keeping their heads down and working hard. Sorry guys but Capitalism is not going anywhere anytime soon, so stop complaining and be productive.
The people that want to work cannot work due to Disability, no baby sitter that you can actually trust alone with your baby... The people that can work are NOT willing to work.... The world is slowly coming to an end
The entry level jobs that are the jobs everyone is quitting isn't meant to be a permanent job. Those jobs were originally there for young people starting out and a step for people to grow. If you grit your teeth and bear it and show up everyday, on time, clean cut, with a good attitude and a drive to learn and grow then doors will open for you to move up in the company and then eventually work your way into a position you would want with that (or a different company) for a liveable wage and benefits and all those things you want. If you found yourself stuck at an extra level position then you need to look at yourself inside and out and maybe start your growth journey.
Or they're scheduling you for so many hours you can't apply for anything better.
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And now they wanna encourage even more immigrants to come here. Just so they can replace the locals that don't want to work for poor wages, is my good guess. I have nothing against immigrants but our local politicians and government just hit a new low in my oppinion. https://theworld.org/stories/2021-10-07/canada-tries-boost-immigration-fast-tracking-applications
It'd be nice if people could do basic math and *then* complain. While a lot of places can pay more and virtually all of them should treat employees better, you can't just claim "give the CEO's bonus to the line workers and they'll show up to work". Bu****it. Divide it up among every employee and it's less than 10 cents per hour per employee for most places I've checked. I've worked with people making $1.75 to over $20/hr; the lower end works harder, the higher end complains more about being overworked. Liberals (no insult intended here) claim that people aren't refusing to work due to handouts, which are the equivalent of $22.50 or more ($300/wk normal plus $600) but that they'd work for a so-called living wage of $15. If it is just the money, they make more by not working. As a genuine capitalist, I firmly believe the money is NOT the issue; treat people as though they're people and they'll work. I know this firsthand (and have been demoted for it) and via common sense.
Some won't work no matter what you pay them, the rest will work almost no matter what you pay them IF you treat them like fellow people.
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I am an accountant and my firm closed at beginning of covid. I temporarily took work as manager at fast food instead of collecting unemployment. If more people did this, we wouldn't be short workers at every store or restaurant we frequent. The wages the fast food pictured above all went up exponentially since people were getting paid more to sit at home on unemployment. Those who are saying that the wages need to be even higher? Think of that next time when you complain to me about the cost of your value meal. If fast food workers make 20/hour your hamburger is going to cost 5$ instead of 2$. Basic economics and somehow noone is realizing this. People protesting instead of educating themselves or working is what is wrong right now in America.
Basic economics includes understanding how much of an items cost is labor not this made up drivel you are spouting. Real studies with math show increases in wages would have minimal impact on prices.
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Gee how shocking a post referencing God is slandering people.
Load More Replies... Yeah bring back slavery. That's the way to go! Why pay people at all???
Load More Replies... No CEO should earn more than 10x their lowest paid employee. It is the employees who keep the company open and rolling, and they should all be compensated fairly. No, don't raise the prices to pay them more- cut the top salaries and use that money to pay them more.
You mean, the way it used to be? Funny how the worst offenders are always reminiscing about, and want to return to, the “good old days”, but want to cherry-pick which parts they want to come back.
Load More Replies... C'mmon Americans, Boycot those assholes, rise up, We are on your side. GO
Yes! I have no skin in the game, but I've been following these types of news from the US with growing optimism. Seems like now's the time to make the real changes.
Load More Replies... Amazing. It’s rife. Us work culture needs a total overhaul. Even my relatively chill boss needs to be reminded that I’m not staying after my paid time and they can’t keep leaving extra things for me to do. She’s just so used to not thinking about it.
Not just the US sadly. I left my job after 12 years because Headoffice decided to reduse costs by reducing personel. Why pay 3 workers when you can make 1 worker run the whole shop, 9 hour shift, no break, easy right? Now the shop is only open a couple hours a day because most of the remaining staff quit
Load More Replies... middle aged female here- 20+yrs of varying experience. Associates degree. Looking for p/t work. over 100 applications out. 10 call backs. 3 interviews. zero job offers. local walgreens- 5 positions open. applied for all 5. got email stating- AFTER REVIEW OF YOUR APPLICATION AND QUALIFICATIONS WE HAVE DECIDED TO MOVE ON TO OTHER APPLICANTS.....my associates degree isn't good enough for cashier? now hiring is a lie
Due to your education and experience, they assume you will walk out the door the moment a better opportunity arises. Been on a few hiring committees, and this is the general consensus for over-qualified applicants.
Load More Replies... To me, the best thing to come out of this pandemic is the collusion of low paid workers to basically unionize. I think it's great! For decades in the US, the businesses have been treating folks like crap. Low pay, long hours, crap benefits, etc. And now they are having a hard time understanding that people are over it. Union busting laws, the 2000 bailout of Wall Street while citizens were left to suffer, the shift of the tax burden from the wealthy and businesses to regular citizens have separated us into 2 classes, the rich and everyone else. The funniest thing about this is whining about the government stimulus. There is an easy solution. Offer livable wages and benefits and poof, you aren't closing your doors. But that idea is so foreign to these business owners that they have to close their doors rather than pay people. The irony here is (I hope) that those that choose that path will eventually be on the other end of this and will (finally) understand what the people go through.
@Effin Fred so go to college and be in debt for the next 30 years? Everything needs to change. "bitching about $12/hour" is justified. People need a livable wage WITHOUT the debt of higher education.
Load More Replies... The same for colleges and universities. Wages have only risen around 20% over the past couple of decades, but university costs have gone up 170%. Why? Overpaid administrators, of which there are too many anyway. The uni here pays the president a couple of million US dollars, the various sports coaches around US$50 million collectively, and rare is the mid-level administrator who is not getting US$200K or more.
Funny how capitalist bosses dropped that old " supply and demand " mantra when the demand for labor outstripped the supply.
"We can't afford to buy decent wages because we're too cheap" is the biggest lie. You won't pay decent wages because you first take 90% of the profits for your own self before thinking about the people who got you your profit.
I don't like the titles saying "Nobody wants to work." We all want to work, we just want compensated for our efforts. I'm a middle-aged - single mom - renter - college graduate and I can't do better than $17 an hour with the amount of quality work I do? It's not right. This has bern a long time coming.
It depends on where you live, but where I'm currently living, a lot of people (yes, even older college graduates) would be pretty happy to make $17 an hour. Average is more like $12 or $13 here.
Load More Replies... This makes me so frustrated! Are people just really that blind or that cruel? People are tired of being exploited and working way too hard to make somene else rich. It's time for businesses to think about sharing the wealth with their employees! And seriously, the small temporary amounts given by the government did not make people not work! It may have made people decide it was time to take a stand though.
Its funny that these people who are saying that folks dont wanna work are so old school. Doing a job that is hard on the body and mind, has crappy hours and schedules that are designed to benefit the owner and are hard for the workers, are often nasty and deal with customers who may be just as nasty, all for a wage that wouldnt be considered "good" 15 years ago is some kind of badge of honor to be worn proudly. Thats how it was for them so they think everyone has to "pay their dues"and work in the s#!t show like they did. Folks are seeing that it can and should be better. And power and Godspeed to them.
Why would anyone want to work for $20-30k a year? The people who typed those signs feel entitled to more, so why wouldn’t anyone else? Anyone with a full time job should make more than that.
these jobs weren't meant to be full time careers, but lack of good ones, forced many to treat them as such
Load More Replies... Any store owners that claims "nobody wants to work anymore" are Fox News humping MAGA chuds. "ThEy GeT fREe $ fRom THe gUBmINt So tHEy DoN't WAnT tO wORk" Instead of the reality, which takes self awareness and empathy (two traits chuds never have) to understand nobody wants to be over-worked and under-paid anymore. Hey, remember when Trump gave corpoations massive tax breaks that were supposed to help employee wages but instead and many of them turnaround and just bought stocks back? But the morons cheered because they got a one time $1000 bonus? If they could've instead have gotten a $0.50 raise instead they'd essentially be getting the equivalent of $1000 bonus every year? Yeah, like I said, morons.
I'm tired of hearing "no one wants to work " turning it back around on us. We WANT to work, we just don't want to be treated like crap, and given a wage that doesn't meet cost of living standards. Pay what people deserve and treat them with respect and you'll have plenty of employees !!
You should see what the US government allows charities, like Goodwill, to pay the disabled. Pennies per hour. And it's "legal."
Thing is, if there’s such a shortage of employees, how come everyone who applies isn’t getting an interview? You’d think that would make it a buyer’s (employees) market, not a seller’s (employers) market. Guess old habits (of exploitation) die hard. Here’s an interesting article about that—-and the one interview he got will piss you off even more: https://www.businessinsider.com/worker-applied-to-60-jobs-got-one-interview-labor-shortage-2021-10 .
Shareholders come first, then CEOs (who are paid with low-taxed shares), then customers, then wage employees. If this structure does not change itself, history will change it as it did previous structures.
The trend you describe is the result of the late 80s globalization and trickle down economics created by Reagan in the US, Thatcher in the UK and Mulroney in Canada. Hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs shipped off to the lowest paid labour markets overseas, thousands of middle management 'downsized', and unions busted from coast to coast. The resulting job markets of low paying service jobs were a dive to the bottom. Like my husband says " if they could pay us in Kraft dinner we'd still be starving"
Load More Replies... Uhh, "due to government handouts"??? Tell me, please, in which country government handouts are making up for the wages you'd get from even the crappiest job? I'll move there immediately.
Canada offered the equivalent of a full-time minimum wage for those who weren't eligible for unemployment but lost their income due to COVID. It was $1800/month after taxes. Supposedly a lot of people actually made more money this way because many employers don't give full-time hours so they can avoid paying benefits. Now, $1800 barely covers rent, so no one was raking it in, but in answer to your question...Canada.
Load More Replies... I am still confused by this, I worked at a nursing home as a nursing assistant. I got paid less then most gas stations and fast food restaurants. When I was planning on quitting, I was told I could be arrested for neglecting patients if I didn't show up or give them at least a 2 week notice. I agree people should be paid more, but look at how a cna is treated and paid. We have to take classes for a job that pays just above minimum wage.
Your work is so important. Society relies on CNAs to care for our most vulnerable family members, expecting you to perform backbreaking and stressful tasks on 12 hour shifts for poverty wages. Still, you're invariably kind, thoughtful, and patient caregivers. Don't know how you do it. Hope you and other CNAs find unexpected joys every day.
Load More Replies... When you spend years keeping your shareholders happy at the expense of your employees, this is the inevitable conclusion.
Pay people a decent wage and treat them with respect and you wouldn't have this problem. Some have figured this out. The rest can enjoying staff walking out. I fully support them walking out.
Hope this doesn't get taken wrong but this is one of the few good things to come out of the pandemic. When emergency unemployment kicked in after I lost my $10 an hour job I was finally able to do things. You don't just go back after you've seen the other side. I'm back at work again but I refused to apply for any job under $15 per hour.
Remember when one person's paycheck could support a mortgage and family? What was different then? Unions. Force the suits to share the wealth with the folks who actually do the work that makes those companies profitable. Unionize.
These companies can raise wages and even lower prices. They already have generational type wealth. So much money that their kids, kids, kid's will be okay. The way it is is not how it has to be. Us making a comfortable living wage does not inhibit these already wealthy people's wealth. Every single person from the cashier to the CEO has needs and has to eat. We the people only want enough to live and be comfortable. Not a life of luxury and it can happen but these greedy people put a stop to it. Because they don't think we are worthy of even living comfortably, let alone having a life of luxury like they do. We allow money to control us and yet it's all made up how we do it. And to say that some can live large, while other's can't. Just isn't true! We all can be okay financially but messed up people set up a system that makes sure only some can. We are human f*****g beings we matter and some of us just want to exist and be comfortable. So don't let anyone lie and say it has to be like this. It doesn't and that's a fact.
Our Chilis in town is basically the only sit down restaurant that's been closed. Once California opened the Applebee's, Red Robin and Denny's started poaching their staff with better pay. People want to work but realized they were being taken advantage of. Seriously.....$2.13 an hour?! utter BS
"No one wants to work anymore." No, nobody wants to work for you anymore. This is just the free market at work. It's not so wonderful when it swings in the other direction, is it?
Anyone else tired of them blaming it on "government handouts"? People didn't get THAT much money.
America has serious problems and has for a while. Sad to see my country going down the tubes. I don't see it getting any better any time soon either, if at all. Sad. Very sad.
Does no one understand how capitalism works? The market sets the price. If no one will work for you there is one obvious answer.
Most of these sound the same. Same "arguments" that sound almost like they´re just repeating what they've heard. Weird.
Wow Chipotle poison a mass of people then don't pay your employees? Quick way to loose business.
Long ago I hung an informative "Firings will continue until morale improves" poster up, during a reorganisation. Supervisor told me to take it down, too close to the bone.
I hate the " no one wants to work anymore" excuse. Partially, very partially, correct. MOSTLY, no one wants to work for the wages vs. the work. Most people know what the work is worth and what they are paying does not line up.
Doesn't matter what the pay is.....Noone aside have to be subject to the way restaurant staff get treated by customers and employers. The average restaurant manager works 60 plus hours a week.
It's just math.... If you work even for 12/hr. You're making 1920/mo before taxes. After taxes that's more like $1,421 Let's say you live in an ok apt or you're renting a home. At 700/mo Now you're at $721 Your car is 350/mo $371... Phone bill $80 $291... Minus groceries for one $200/mo $91.... This is assuming you're a single person, have decent credit (close to 700) and are rigorously disciplined with your finances. Either way doesn't sound like a great life. And God help you if you have a child or other dependent. I'm not so sure "no one wants to work anymore" is accurate. But nice try trying to guilt your employees into slave labor....
Its weird people keep blaming this on hand outs. People who quit don't get unemployment. The government unemployment bump is canceled. Let's be honest, these people are treated like s**t, paid s**t, and for some reason post pandemic some customers are acting even more entitled than they did before. Repeat after me. The customer is not always right. Customer service people are not your slaves. People deserve to be treated like human beings
The same is happening here in Denmark. And for the sane reason. The pay is now so low at restaurants that you actually pay to go to work. It is ridicoulus how the rich cant understand how you cannot beat a dead horse to run....
After years of saying "If you don't like it, get a better job," these yoyos are surprised. Restaurant workers suddenly had a bit of time, enough money to survive on -- and proceeded to do coding boot camps, or trade apprenticeships, or start a business themselves. Darnedest thing that they didn't come back, isn't it?
Ironic how all of them are for food service (restaurants)...as if food service is the only work that falls within the minimum wage category. It's funny as hell that all the people supporting this believe the lie that a food service increase to $15/hr minimum wage won't cause a rise in product price. The person picking the tomatoes, lettuce and onions for your favorite burger also fall in the minimum wage category. Minimum wage won't go up only in focused areas. It will go up for all who fall in the category. Those lies about the product price not going up? They are all based on calculations in which the cost of the base/raw food items does not increase. How is the cost of those base/raw food items supposed to not increase if the producer has to increase their employee pay? Labor and base/raw food are the two highest costs of operating any restaurant. There's no way to get around the product price going up if the cost of operation goes up.
Sure there is. We could stop pretending CEOs are worth 400x an average full-time employee and that shareholders need big dividends for doing nothing.
Load More Replies... I assume there will be a swell of applicants for jobs like nursing, construction, plumbing, electrician. All of which typically pay upwards of $15/hr with benefits depending on the state you live in.
I get it. But what are these people doing for money? Are people choosing nothing over low wages?
Most of them are doing "side hustles" uber/lyft/doordash etc. Plus any not so legal opportunities. Working for these wages, they are used to living in poverty - so you do what you need to do.
Load More Replies... I was at Buffalo Wild Wings yesterday and their bar section was closed as well as half of the floor section, because they had ONE employee taking orders and bringing food and drinks. Took me like 40 minutes to get my first pint of beer, but I did not complain and left extra tips to the lady - she was clearly overwhelmed and overworked.
I think what people don't get, is that the issue here is not about wanting to live of government handouts. It's about wanting to be paid a living wage, & wanting to NOT be treated like a slave. It's about us being sick & tired of being walked all over & treated like shít by big, rich, greedy companies, & jerk customers. We've been feeling this way for many years. The gov't handouts have just given us a way to finally put voice to that protest, en masse. Places like Europe & Japan don't rely on tipping culture. And they take MUCH better care of their workers, even in fast food. Much better pay, benefits, hours, holidays, vacation time, sick days, maternity AND paternity leave, even allowing their cashiers to actually SIT, while at their registers. That's all we in America want. To be treated like humans. And maybe, just maybe, by quitting en masse, now that we CAN, we can force a change for the better. Maybe our voices will finally be heard.
And just for the record, I AM working, & I have been this whole time. In food service. But, even though I am working, I totally get it. It's terrible right now. We're human beings. We deserve better. Maybe we'll finally get it. One can hope. It's not that "nobody wants to work". It's that everyone is tired of being treated like disposable, replaceable dirt. Instead of blaming the government, these companies need to take a good, long, hard look at themselves. Maybe we can finally make that happen. Again, one can hope.
Load More Replies... I believe the US is the only country in which this is happening. You pay and treat people like crap and they leave. Mega wealthy billionaires making record profits pay their employees starvation wages. Karma really is a bitch.
Someone I know griped about a restaurant being closed be cause "no one wants to work". I asked him, "What's your hourly wage?" He said, "$18/hr." "OK", I said, "What do you think restaurant workers are paid? If it's a national chain, they get minimum wage, $7.25, local can be as low as $2.13. You make more than double the national minimum wage, you have no room to complain." He sort of saw my point. Did it sink in? I doubt it.. But the fact is, there isn't a labor shortage, there's a wage shortage.
When you leave an abusive relationship, the abuser tries to blame you, accuses you of having "faults", and accuses you of not loving them the way that they love you. If you get tired of being insulted, yelled at, overworked, and underpaid, that is your fault. [sarcasm] If you want to get paid a living wage, it is your fault for not appreciating all that your employer does for you. [sarcasm] They give you a little bit of money, expect you to work long hours, without the breaks mandated by labor laws. They abuse you verbally and emotionally. You didn't quit because the employer, the corporate policies and their crappy managers, make your life a living hell. [Sarcasm] You quit because you are lazy, and just want the handout from the government. [sarcasm] The government subsidies I no longer available for most people. People would literally rather live on a very tight budget, scrambling to make ends meet on one income, then go back to work in a hostile abusive environment.
Company I worked at bragged about understaffing and "doing more with less". Bragged about how much profit was made. But was somehow not enough money for any raises for many years. They kept increasing workload with not enough people. Was expected to take laptop home and work until 10-11 at night. No longer work there, stress was hurting me physically and mentally.
How would you feel if healthcare workers quit because they were busy??? Suck it up and be responsible and work the jobs you have, it's how the world works. Does your education or job skill give you the requirement for being a CEO?
So you're 8 years in to a job designed and intended as a first job for 16 year olds and complain? Perhaps you lack the motivation or skill set to demand and deserve more pay. If it is so easy to build a multi-million dollar operation, why don't YOU come up with the concept, the capital, the business plan, get investors, pitch the idea, work 18 hours a day, leverage everything you own, and deal with incredible stress? Just punching a clock doesn't bring value to your employer- especially if you can be replaced by a robot. Sweating for someone else never paid well. Sweating for yourself usually reaps better pay. Let your bosses know you want to learn THEIR job. Why do you deserve more handing a bag through a window of the next high school dropout through the door can replace you with two days training? You need to better yourself and aspire to something more than a menial service job where the only requirements are to be 16, breathing and show up. Sorry, not sorry.
This is a good if orchestrated by Us the people or really bad orchestrated by them the Elite. Either way I say "Let the Revolution be telavised." War 3 begins.
wel considering these jobs are such low pay that the folks that walked out on them likely still lived with their parents so had a backup plan probably says a lot
USA my friend...covid unemployment averaged $600usd per week...after it ended you could apply an extension
Load More Replies... All you uneducated and lazy socialist need to shut up and accept your social-economic status, everyone is looking for a free lunch rather than keeping their heads down and working hard. Sorry guys but Capitalism is not going anywhere anytime soon, so stop complaining and be productive.
The people that want to work cannot work due to Disability, no baby sitter that you can actually trust alone with your baby... The people that can work are NOT willing to work.... The world is slowly coming to an end
The entry level jobs that are the jobs everyone is quitting isn't meant to be a permanent job. Those jobs were originally there for young people starting out and a step for people to grow. If you grit your teeth and bear it and show up everyday, on time, clean cut, with a good attitude and a drive to learn and grow then doors will open for you to move up in the company and then eventually work your way into a position you would want with that (or a different company) for a liveable wage and benefits and all those things you want. If you found yourself stuck at an extra level position then you need to look at yourself inside and out and maybe start your growth journey.
Or they're scheduling you for so many hours you can't apply for anything better.
Load More Replies... And now they wanna encourage even more immigrants to come here. Just so they can replace the locals that don't want to work for poor wages, is my good guess. I have nothing against immigrants but our local politicians and government just hit a new low in my oppinion. https://theworld.org/stories/2021-10-07/canada-tries-boost-immigration-fast-tracking-applications
It'd be nice if people could do basic math and *then* complain. While a lot of places can pay more and virtually all of them should treat employees better, you can't just claim "give the CEO's bonus to the line workers and they'll show up to work". Bu****it. Divide it up among every employee and it's less than 10 cents per hour per employee for most places I've checked. I've worked with people making $1.75 to over $20/hr; the lower end works harder, the higher end complains more about being overworked. Liberals (no insult intended here) claim that people aren't refusing to work due to handouts, which are the equivalent of $22.50 or more ($300/wk normal plus $600) but that they'd work for a so-called living wage of $15. If it is just the money, they make more by not working. As a genuine capitalist, I firmly believe the money is NOT the issue; treat people as though they're people and they'll work. I know this firsthand (and have been demoted for it) and via common sense.
Some won't work no matter what you pay them, the rest will work almost no matter what you pay them IF you treat them like fellow people.
Load More Replies... I am an accountant and my firm closed at beginning of covid. I temporarily took work as manager at fast food instead of collecting unemployment. If more people did this, we wouldn't be short workers at every store or restaurant we frequent. The wages the fast food pictured above all went up exponentially since people were getting paid more to sit at home on unemployment. Those who are saying that the wages need to be even higher? Think of that next time when you complain to me about the cost of your value meal. If fast food workers make 20/hour your hamburger is going to cost 5$ instead of 2$. Basic economics and somehow noone is realizing this. People protesting instead of educating themselves or working is what is wrong right now in America.
Basic economics includes understanding how much of an items cost is labor not this made up drivel you are spouting. Real studies with math show increases in wages would have minimal impact on prices.
Load More Replies... Gee how shocking a post referencing God is slandering people.
Load More Replies... Yeah bring back slavery. That's the way to go! Why pay people at all???
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