Woman Is Suspicious Of Her Dad After He Repeatedly Requests Her Baby’s Social Security Number
Interview With ExpertA social security number should be a person’s most-guarded piece of personal information. We constantly hear stories of how people get scammed when they give away their SSNs and have their identity stolen. The Social Security Administration cautions people to never disclose their SSNs to strangers, especially on the phone or online.
But what if it’s a family member asking for your child’s social security number? This woman heard such a request from her father, who claimed he wanted to start a bank account for the baby. She shared her story with people, telling them how she worried her father might start opening lines of credit in her child’s name.
Bored Panda reached out to Michael Bruemmer, an expert at a major American credit report bureau, Experian. He is the vice president of Global Data Breach Resolution and Consumer Protection, and he shed some light on the serious topic of child identity theft.
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One woman’s father demanded she give him her baby’s social security number, which she found suspicious
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Using a child’s Social Security Number to take out loans or credit cards is identity theft
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Micheal Bruemmer says that keeping their child’s social security number safe should be a top priority. “As a rule of thumb, I’d advise parents to never share their child’s social security number unless they have a very good, legitimate reason to do so.
“Family members may not have any malicious intent when asking for that personal information. In fact, it’s not unheard of for grandparents or other family members to ask for a child’s social security number so they can open a savings account for the child.”
“However, I’d still suggest avoiding this and recommend that parents open an account themselves that family members can contribute to, such as a 529 account.”
Bruemmer says that every time parents share their child’s social security number, there may be potential risks. “That number can be misplaced, misused, and stolen by criminals,” he says. “Child identity theft can create a very big problem for parents and children and can result in fraudsters opening credit card accounts, applying for and obtaining loans, or even gaining employment using the child’s personal information.”
What parents can do to keep their children safe from identity theft
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The mother in this story mentions how she has had financial trouble with her irresponsible parents in the past, which is why she was suspicious. But many people trust their parents (or spouses) and might not be able to immediately recognize the signs that a family member might be stealing their child’s identity.
Michael Bruemmer has some advice for people who are afraid their children might be victims of identity theft. “First, I would recommend checking to see if their child has a credit report with each credit bureau. This is to ensure that they have not been a victim of fraud.”
“Parents with children 14 years or older can access this option via Experian’s minor credit report request form. For children 13 years or younger, the parents must write to Experian since the Children’s Online Privacy Protection Act restricts the online collection of personal information regarding children.”
“Next,” Bruemmer goes on, “if a credit report exists, parents can freeze their child’s credit with every credit bureau. It’s not necessary to create a child’s credit report solely to freeze it, but parents can do so. When the child’s credit is frozen, lenders cannot issue credit. Parents can also consider enrolling in Experian’s family identity protection plan, which provides identity monitoring for up to 10 minor children.”
One of the most telling signs will be suspicious bills and notices arriving in your post box in your child’s name. “If they start receiving bills, credit card offers, or other age-inappropriate items addressed to their child, that is a sign their personal information may have been compromised,” Bruemmer explains.
“If a child’s identity is stolen, parents should also notify the business or financial institution that issued credit or a loan that the account was opened fraudulently in their child’s name. Parents should follow up with filing a police report and filing a fraud report with the FTC.”
The woman clarified that she and her parents don’t exactly get along well because they caused her financial problems in the past
People cautioned the woman to stand her ground
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Excuse my naivety, is this just an American thing where you can get a loan or credit against a child's SSN? I'm in the UK and I'm sure it wouldn't be possible to do that here? Kids accounts don't allow an overdraft either?
Yes, it is an American thing. Their whole system is ridiculously vulnerable to identity theft and the way their credit system works, if you get a bad ranking, it is extremely difficult to save it.
Load More Replies...Social Security numbers have way too much power in the US. It really needs to change. The military using SS# is ridiculous, everything military related has my social on.
My mom's health insurance used to use her social security number as the policy number. It was super weird. I try to avoid putting it on as many forms as possible, but it is super vulnerable to identity theft.
Load More Replies...I'm in Ireland and a child gets a pps number. But you can't do anything with it because it has the childs details on it and age. Is that not the same in America?
It's not. Identity theft is very easy in the US, especially when it comes to opening lines of credit
Load More Replies...OP ought to just report her worthless excuse of birth givers for harassment if this continues. Personally, I don't live in the States so I don't have a SSN, but I have had a distant aunt asking for me, my brother and my cousin's personal info (note that we were all still schoolkids/teens) before aka identity card number/account number etc for some weird reason but my dad and uncle shut her down immediately and told her that she already had the info of the elder generation aka my dad, uncles, aunties etc so she didn't need those from our generation (me, brother. cousins etc). Turns out she was going to use them as downlines on some dumb sh*t MLM scheme where we as her downlines would need to purchase a certain amount of products and resell them to get our payments back. The elder generation immediately threatened legal action against her and blocked her on all platforms. She still tries to show up at family gatherings (what's left of those anyway) every once in a while trying the same
cont* cockamamie sh*t like the last round on us (we've since grown up and are working) but having been given permission by our elders to tell her to literally F-off, we immediately do so once she gets pushy while reminding her of the stunt she tried to pull years ago. Hence I absolutely applaud OP for sticking to her guns and not even allowing her sh*tstain birth givers a whiff of baby's personal info. Not saying I know what it's like, but I know the type. SMH!
Load More Replies...What a shame she had to engage in needless bigotry by emphasizing her dad is a "boomer". Has nothing to do with him being an irresponsible leech. That spans all generations - including hers.
Yea, calling him a white drunk smelly boomer instead of a inbred WHITE smelly drunk fool is troubling.
Load More Replies...It shouldn't be too hard to open a bank account where only money can be put in. Yet not taken out besides the person who it is meant for. The mother could open an account in the baby's name / or her own, so the grandfather can send money., without having the possibility to take it out... Is that not possible in USA ?
It is. It's called a 529 account, according to the text. The baby's parents actually opened one and told her father he could write a check to that account if he wanted to save for the baby. But the bank account was just an excuse to get the number, that's why he got so furious.
Load More Replies...I am on the opposite side of this. I had never even heard of this sort of financial abuse, much less experienced it, when I was enrolled in a military and veterans life insurance policy (I wouldn't say against my will, and it's a good policy, but I didn't know about it more than a quarter hour before I had to either sign the papers or pass on it forever). One of the features is, like all things military, it needs SSNs in triplicate for every person listed. I didn't have kids at the time, still don't, likely never will, same for a romantic relationship. So I called a lifelong friend to ask if I could list them as beneficiary and get their SSN. They flipped out in a major way. That wasn't the last time I spoke to them, but it definitely was the end of a friendship.
I'm way too european to understand this... In France social security number won't be at any risk cause you can't do anything without the Carte Vitale with your picture on and also it's just about health...
Weird, in Australiamwe have a tax file no. And a social security number separately. You only provide your tax file no. To financial institutions, never social security no. For anything but benefits. You also have to apply for both when you need them, they are not provided at birth.
Couldn't you have them charged for using your ID without permission??? And with what they did to grandpa?
First try finding a cop who cares, and then IF the prosecutor decides to go ahead with the charge, that will take years. A civil suit will take just as long, and cost a fortune in lawyer fees. Cops want you to think its them keeping you safe. Its really you and I deciding not to commit crimes because we dont need to or want to that keeps us safe.
Load More Replies...Excuse my naivety, is this just an American thing where you can get a loan or credit against a child's SSN? I'm in the UK and I'm sure it wouldn't be possible to do that here? Kids accounts don't allow an overdraft either?
Yes, it is an American thing. Their whole system is ridiculously vulnerable to identity theft and the way their credit system works, if you get a bad ranking, it is extremely difficult to save it.
Load More Replies...Social Security numbers have way too much power in the US. It really needs to change. The military using SS# is ridiculous, everything military related has my social on.
My mom's health insurance used to use her social security number as the policy number. It was super weird. I try to avoid putting it on as many forms as possible, but it is super vulnerable to identity theft.
Load More Replies...I'm in Ireland and a child gets a pps number. But you can't do anything with it because it has the childs details on it and age. Is that not the same in America?
It's not. Identity theft is very easy in the US, especially when it comes to opening lines of credit
Load More Replies...OP ought to just report her worthless excuse of birth givers for harassment if this continues. Personally, I don't live in the States so I don't have a SSN, but I have had a distant aunt asking for me, my brother and my cousin's personal info (note that we were all still schoolkids/teens) before aka identity card number/account number etc for some weird reason but my dad and uncle shut her down immediately and told her that she already had the info of the elder generation aka my dad, uncles, aunties etc so she didn't need those from our generation (me, brother. cousins etc). Turns out she was going to use them as downlines on some dumb sh*t MLM scheme where we as her downlines would need to purchase a certain amount of products and resell them to get our payments back. The elder generation immediately threatened legal action against her and blocked her on all platforms. She still tries to show up at family gatherings (what's left of those anyway) every once in a while trying the same
cont* cockamamie sh*t like the last round on us (we've since grown up and are working) but having been given permission by our elders to tell her to literally F-off, we immediately do so once she gets pushy while reminding her of the stunt she tried to pull years ago. Hence I absolutely applaud OP for sticking to her guns and not even allowing her sh*tstain birth givers a whiff of baby's personal info. Not saying I know what it's like, but I know the type. SMH!
Load More Replies...What a shame she had to engage in needless bigotry by emphasizing her dad is a "boomer". Has nothing to do with him being an irresponsible leech. That spans all generations - including hers.
Yea, calling him a white drunk smelly boomer instead of a inbred WHITE smelly drunk fool is troubling.
Load More Replies...It shouldn't be too hard to open a bank account where only money can be put in. Yet not taken out besides the person who it is meant for. The mother could open an account in the baby's name / or her own, so the grandfather can send money., without having the possibility to take it out... Is that not possible in USA ?
It is. It's called a 529 account, according to the text. The baby's parents actually opened one and told her father he could write a check to that account if he wanted to save for the baby. But the bank account was just an excuse to get the number, that's why he got so furious.
Load More Replies...I am on the opposite side of this. I had never even heard of this sort of financial abuse, much less experienced it, when I was enrolled in a military and veterans life insurance policy (I wouldn't say against my will, and it's a good policy, but I didn't know about it more than a quarter hour before I had to either sign the papers or pass on it forever). One of the features is, like all things military, it needs SSNs in triplicate for every person listed. I didn't have kids at the time, still don't, likely never will, same for a romantic relationship. So I called a lifelong friend to ask if I could list them as beneficiary and get their SSN. They flipped out in a major way. That wasn't the last time I spoke to them, but it definitely was the end of a friendship.
I'm way too european to understand this... In France social security number won't be at any risk cause you can't do anything without the Carte Vitale with your picture on and also it's just about health...
Weird, in Australiamwe have a tax file no. And a social security number separately. You only provide your tax file no. To financial institutions, never social security no. For anything but benefits. You also have to apply for both when you need them, they are not provided at birth.
Couldn't you have them charged for using your ID without permission??? And with what they did to grandpa?
First try finding a cop who cares, and then IF the prosecutor decides to go ahead with the charge, that will take years. A civil suit will take just as long, and cost a fortune in lawyer fees. Cops want you to think its them keeping you safe. Its really you and I deciding not to commit crimes because we dont need to or want to that keeps us safe.
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