This Man’s Twitter Thread Proves Why Calling Someone A ‘Nazi’ Is Not A Slur
It’s been nearly 100 years since the Nazi party rose to power, resulting in one of the biggest tragedies the world has ever seen. Today we are witnessing a new rise of people who sympathise with Nazi ideology, making us wonder: haven’t we learned anything from history?
It calls for educated people to take a stand, and remind people of the most important details of the Nazi reality. This is exactly what writer and engineer Yonatan Zunger did. Shortly after the violent far-right rally in Charlottesville which happened last year, he wrote a Twitter thread explaining exactly what Nazi ideology is, and why it’s alright to call someone Nazi if they clearly sympathize with this ideology. Yonatan’s thread quickly went viral, proving how important this topic is today. Scroll below to read the thread!
Writer and engineer Yonatan Zunger took to Twitter to explain what Nazi ideology is, and why it’s alright to call someone Nazi if they sympathize with this ideology
Source: http://www.centerforpolitics.org
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Share on FacebookCouple of years back, at my friends workplace, there was this guy who was diagnosed with AIDS, in just few months he became too frail and confined 2 someone who he trusted as friend that what is the issue. That friend spread the 'news' across office like wildfire and soon there were 2 groups in office of different stance, one who were sympathetic and understood & had no problem, one very small group consist of his direct manager who started seeing this bloke as some abomination and conspired against him. One very old lady(79 YO), who use to do small tasks like filling up coffee machine etc., soon started a campaign, branding the people in second group as Nazi's. Whole floor suddenly voiced in favor of ill bloke and his manager got fired for partial behavior. That's how you fight such thing. Raise your voice! Don't be afraid no matter how small you think you are.
This is great, brilliant explanation for actual Nazis. This man is stating that he isn't using Nazi to mean people he disagrees with, yet demonstrates that thhis isn't quite the case. The pro "punch a Nazi" stance is what I'm meaning. The Nazis convinced the German people to turn upon the Jewish population by painting the Jews as money hoarders that are oppressing Germans and keeping them down. In modern times, a part of NEO-Nazi ideology is that their views mean that they are - like the hard working German people - oppressed. By punching them, you're actually reinforcing this view, making their voices heard more, turning people to them as part of their ideology is now proven correct in their mind. Also with the whole "punch a Nazi" thing, it is used by groups such as Antifa to excuse their actions - a woman breaking a window into a discussion armed with a garotte, a guy who had his head cracked with a bike lock when calling for the riot to end, a dude bludgeoned for carring a US flag.
Yonatan Zunger makes one evil mistake. This entire punch-a-nazi thing means he condones violent behavior against people who only have committed thought crimes. Then he continues to say that historically there was only one solution for Nazis without explaining what he really recommends. Modern Nazis, even if they call themselves Nazis, didn’t commit the crimes during WWII. Zunger, however, convicts them for their thoughts and suggests violent crimes against them as if they have been convicted. And this is not only a big mistake, it is outright evil. He provides a justification for violent hate groups like Antifa. Somehow he does what Nazis are supposed to do by introducing a new dogma allowing violence against political opponents. People like Zunger are the new prophets of fascism, only this time fascism can be found at the left side and not on the right side of the political spectrum.
Load More Replies...I remember making a comment that Trump's campaign in 15/16 started sounding an awful lot like nazism. Someone commented that he wasn't killing people so shut up. I got so mad and read them the riot, to go read a history book. Hitler didn't just wake up on September 1, 1939 and declare Jews evil and go to war. He gradually built it up over years, especially after the great depression and propaganda that he could make Germany great again. It pisses me off that most people, in the United states, have access to information literally in their hand and they choose to be ignorant.
You raise your voice, you become heard and you legitimately prove the "Nazi" belief system is wrong. There will always be ignorance in the world and all we can do is educate it. Do not condone violence against someone because they believe something different than you. You speak up, you educate and you teach tolerance. Nazism is an ignorance of how science works, its an ignorance of how reality works and by using the tactics of the Nazi's to try to "shut them up" simply makes your point less valid. We will always have to prove we exist for a reason, Nazism is not the only hateful belief system out there. But accepting the use of force to prove your point does not make you correct at all.
The Nazi's were never ignorant of how science works, they used it to their advantage; the current wave of Neo-Nazism refuses to acknowledge the findings of science. Albert Einstein left Germany as he refused to work for them. The Allies barely had a lock on the mechanics and science of Jets. Read Operation Paperclip - the truth about the USA's sudden knowledge of of making aircraft fly faster, the development of chemicals warfare, etc. The US took some of the most Vicious & inhumane scientists back. Gave them the American Dream, so to speak. Some of those men should have been hanged.
Load More Replies...Well put. Many people don't realize how gradual the rise of facisam and nacizam was. And how widespread the ideology was (even in the US) since much earlier then WWII, during it and after it. The ideology never really died and I'm not sure when it even started. *sigh* Sometimes watching the news and this world (climate change, science, religiones, ideologies...) it sometimes seems we didn't much change at all, and sometimes we're even going in reverse. I know there are changes for the better and I often have to keep reminding myself of that (the most peaceful time in history etc.) but they seem to be really slow.
I had a social studies teach once who said everything in the world is cyclical. It's much easier to look back at changes throughout history and say, "Yes, of course, X led to Y, and then Y led to Z." Not so much when you're in the middle of it. So identifying and analyzing the swings in politics, ideologies, religion, etc., requires historical context - otherwise we're doomed to do the same dumb s**t over and over again.
Load More Replies...Nazism literally refers SPECIFICALLY to the Nazi's of Weimar Germany. It isn't some mystical word that dates back to the origins of the Swastika. It is a term that came into being BECAUSE of "New socialist"s.
It is an abbreviation for NATIonalsozialismus" which is is pronounced "Na Z ional" in german.
Load More Replies...I read and watched documentaries about how the Nazis gained power. It started with "We will educate your kids, we will provide free healthcare and we will make sure you have work." And people voted Hitler in. Then he went to neighboring nations like Austria and made the same promise. And they voted him in. Then he took away the kids to "educate" them in the ways of Nazism to enforce the idea of the master race. His healthcare included institutionalizing anyone deemed imperfect (Eugenics.) And he convinced the Germans that Jews were responsible for the decline in employment leaving ordinary citizens to drag Jews into the streets..beating them, raping them and murdering them out of desperation for work. To think this kind of thing can't happen today is ridiculous. Because it's happening all over again in the USA. It needs to be stopped in it's tracks before it gets out of control. No more Hitlers.
„Historically, there has been exactly one solution for Nazis. It did not come cheap.” - Being written under a picture about two people wearing ushanka hats with red stars. Red stars. So you think, communism was the solution for nazism. One part of my family was tortured by nazis, the other part was raped, despoiled, imprisoned and killed by communists. Yonathan Zunger, you are probably the most entitled and ignorant moron I have ever heard of. I suggest you to go and find some hobby.
uhm.. interesting interpretation but... did you see the rifles in the picture?
Load More Replies...That's fine and all, but now make a post about communism and the numerous state bankruptcies, famines, purges, forced labor camps and millions of deaths it lead to. Saying "nazism" is bad/ evil is true, but don't forget about fascism and communism- they were all ideologies, adpoted by madmen that ruined millions of lives. In fact a table comparing the core beliefs and number of victims of each ideology would be pretty interesting.
Any dictatorship is immoral. Communist included. Full stop.
Load More Replies...My dear friend Ina, who was a friend of my parents and originally from Germany, and actually older than them, was visiting and the television was on. The British program (I have no idea of what kind of a program it was) ended and as the names of the various people who had been working on it were rolling by we saw Ina get very upset and tremendously excited. Ina was half Jewish, and apart from two elderly distant aunts living in Berlin, there was no one else left from her family - and she saw her family name! After quite a bit of determined searching, (late 70-ties) it turned out to belong to the son of a cousin who had handed their son over to a stranger at a railway station in Belgium as they were about to be sent to a concentration camp in Germany. He had ended up in England and he never knew that he had any relatives at all.
Just let me add that Nazi Germany did not only want to eradicate the Jews with their "final solution", they applied the same measures to the Gypsies. Many countries in Europe of today are still incredibly discriminating towards their Roma populations, keeping their children out of school and the adults out of work - systematically. It is worst in some Central European countries, such as Romania, but systematic discrimination is real in most of Europe. This is shameful, to say the least.
Load More Replies...It seems the far left label anyone they disagree with as nazis. If you're a moderate, libertarian or a rational left thinker you can be deemed a nazi so the word loses the original meaning. Antifa have been known to physically attack people on the left merely for holding a US flag.
The amazing photograph should have been acknowledged! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Woman_Hitting_a_Neo-Nazi_With_Her_Handbag . It is a perfect illustration of one of my favourite words: civil courage, which is something we need much more of, before it has become too late, again.
Does anyone remember the people of Krikkit, from Hitchhicker's guide to galaxy? The peaceful, Beatles-like, happy killers
Ever since I first saw the picture of the woman slinging her purse at the head of a neo-Nazi, I've longed to see the next pictures, the moment her heavy bag impacted on his head, and right afterward. Did getting beamed by someone old enough to remember actual Nazis knocked some sense into him...probably not. Chances are he OD'd in some filthy rathole not too many years after this picture was taken anyway.
It seems to me that both Trump and Antifa are using some of these ideas.
Actually, it's not complicated, people have the right to be hateful and say awful things. You have the right to respond to that, to say things back, to refuse to do business with them, hire them, etc. but you can't strike the first blow, you can't take away their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that's an elemental part of American life, we might not always do it right, but we try.
Load More Replies...Another nazi ideology is, if a child is going to be born with a deformity or disability, it should be aborted. They also believed that citizens should not be allowed to have weapons. There are a lot of nazi ideology that can be said to be held by the left, or the right. This just looks to me to be another attempt to say that if you don’t want lawbreakers to be a part of your country, illegally, then you are a nazi. No one, with the exception of the extreme whackos, has ever said that they don’t want people from other countries to come here, most just don’t want people from other countries to come here illegally, and take advantage of our system. There really is a big difference unless you have put on your blinders and don’t want to look at the big picture.
He already covers the killing of people with disabilities, so I'm not really sure why you're offer that up as a counter argument, also your second point is wrong they did not believe that citizens should not be allowed to have weapons, they just took weapons away from certain groups in the same way they took other rights away from certain groups, after WW1 Germans were banned from owning guns, the government change this in 1928 to allow some people gun ownership and Hitler came to power in 1933 and further relaxed the laws but started removing guns from Jews and other ethnic groups using the registers that were used in 1928. Even if you're to say that anti gun ownership was part of their ideology(which it was not) it's important to know that it's not the part of their ideology that people have a problem with, ISIS believe in carrying out charity work, no one has a problem with that it's the genocide and rape that people hate.
Load More Replies...A KKK supporter is obviously a racist! I don't understand your point.
Load More Replies...Couple of years back, at my friends workplace, there was this guy who was diagnosed with AIDS, in just few months he became too frail and confined 2 someone who he trusted as friend that what is the issue. That friend spread the 'news' across office like wildfire and soon there were 2 groups in office of different stance, one who were sympathetic and understood & had no problem, one very small group consist of his direct manager who started seeing this bloke as some abomination and conspired against him. One very old lady(79 YO), who use to do small tasks like filling up coffee machine etc., soon started a campaign, branding the people in second group as Nazi's. Whole floor suddenly voiced in favor of ill bloke and his manager got fired for partial behavior. That's how you fight such thing. Raise your voice! Don't be afraid no matter how small you think you are.
This is great, brilliant explanation for actual Nazis. This man is stating that he isn't using Nazi to mean people he disagrees with, yet demonstrates that thhis isn't quite the case. The pro "punch a Nazi" stance is what I'm meaning. The Nazis convinced the German people to turn upon the Jewish population by painting the Jews as money hoarders that are oppressing Germans and keeping them down. In modern times, a part of NEO-Nazi ideology is that their views mean that they are - like the hard working German people - oppressed. By punching them, you're actually reinforcing this view, making their voices heard more, turning people to them as part of their ideology is now proven correct in their mind. Also with the whole "punch a Nazi" thing, it is used by groups such as Antifa to excuse their actions - a woman breaking a window into a discussion armed with a garotte, a guy who had his head cracked with a bike lock when calling for the riot to end, a dude bludgeoned for carring a US flag.
Yonatan Zunger makes one evil mistake. This entire punch-a-nazi thing means he condones violent behavior against people who only have committed thought crimes. Then he continues to say that historically there was only one solution for Nazis without explaining what he really recommends. Modern Nazis, even if they call themselves Nazis, didn’t commit the crimes during WWII. Zunger, however, convicts them for their thoughts and suggests violent crimes against them as if they have been convicted. And this is not only a big mistake, it is outright evil. He provides a justification for violent hate groups like Antifa. Somehow he does what Nazis are supposed to do by introducing a new dogma allowing violence against political opponents. People like Zunger are the new prophets of fascism, only this time fascism can be found at the left side and not on the right side of the political spectrum.
Load More Replies...I remember making a comment that Trump's campaign in 15/16 started sounding an awful lot like nazism. Someone commented that he wasn't killing people so shut up. I got so mad and read them the riot, to go read a history book. Hitler didn't just wake up on September 1, 1939 and declare Jews evil and go to war. He gradually built it up over years, especially after the great depression and propaganda that he could make Germany great again. It pisses me off that most people, in the United states, have access to information literally in their hand and they choose to be ignorant.
You raise your voice, you become heard and you legitimately prove the "Nazi" belief system is wrong. There will always be ignorance in the world and all we can do is educate it. Do not condone violence against someone because they believe something different than you. You speak up, you educate and you teach tolerance. Nazism is an ignorance of how science works, its an ignorance of how reality works and by using the tactics of the Nazi's to try to "shut them up" simply makes your point less valid. We will always have to prove we exist for a reason, Nazism is not the only hateful belief system out there. But accepting the use of force to prove your point does not make you correct at all.
The Nazi's were never ignorant of how science works, they used it to their advantage; the current wave of Neo-Nazism refuses to acknowledge the findings of science. Albert Einstein left Germany as he refused to work for them. The Allies barely had a lock on the mechanics and science of Jets. Read Operation Paperclip - the truth about the USA's sudden knowledge of of making aircraft fly faster, the development of chemicals warfare, etc. The US took some of the most Vicious & inhumane scientists back. Gave them the American Dream, so to speak. Some of those men should have been hanged.
Load More Replies...Well put. Many people don't realize how gradual the rise of facisam and nacizam was. And how widespread the ideology was (even in the US) since much earlier then WWII, during it and after it. The ideology never really died and I'm not sure when it even started. *sigh* Sometimes watching the news and this world (climate change, science, religiones, ideologies...) it sometimes seems we didn't much change at all, and sometimes we're even going in reverse. I know there are changes for the better and I often have to keep reminding myself of that (the most peaceful time in history etc.) but they seem to be really slow.
I had a social studies teach once who said everything in the world is cyclical. It's much easier to look back at changes throughout history and say, "Yes, of course, X led to Y, and then Y led to Z." Not so much when you're in the middle of it. So identifying and analyzing the swings in politics, ideologies, religion, etc., requires historical context - otherwise we're doomed to do the same dumb s**t over and over again.
Load More Replies...Nazism literally refers SPECIFICALLY to the Nazi's of Weimar Germany. It isn't some mystical word that dates back to the origins of the Swastika. It is a term that came into being BECAUSE of "New socialist"s.
It is an abbreviation for NATIonalsozialismus" which is is pronounced "Na Z ional" in german.
Load More Replies...I read and watched documentaries about how the Nazis gained power. It started with "We will educate your kids, we will provide free healthcare and we will make sure you have work." And people voted Hitler in. Then he went to neighboring nations like Austria and made the same promise. And they voted him in. Then he took away the kids to "educate" them in the ways of Nazism to enforce the idea of the master race. His healthcare included institutionalizing anyone deemed imperfect (Eugenics.) And he convinced the Germans that Jews were responsible for the decline in employment leaving ordinary citizens to drag Jews into the streets..beating them, raping them and murdering them out of desperation for work. To think this kind of thing can't happen today is ridiculous. Because it's happening all over again in the USA. It needs to be stopped in it's tracks before it gets out of control. No more Hitlers.
„Historically, there has been exactly one solution for Nazis. It did not come cheap.” - Being written under a picture about two people wearing ushanka hats with red stars. Red stars. So you think, communism was the solution for nazism. One part of my family was tortured by nazis, the other part was raped, despoiled, imprisoned and killed by communists. Yonathan Zunger, you are probably the most entitled and ignorant moron I have ever heard of. I suggest you to go and find some hobby.
uhm.. interesting interpretation but... did you see the rifles in the picture?
Load More Replies...That's fine and all, but now make a post about communism and the numerous state bankruptcies, famines, purges, forced labor camps and millions of deaths it lead to. Saying "nazism" is bad/ evil is true, but don't forget about fascism and communism- they were all ideologies, adpoted by madmen that ruined millions of lives. In fact a table comparing the core beliefs and number of victims of each ideology would be pretty interesting.
Any dictatorship is immoral. Communist included. Full stop.
Load More Replies...My dear friend Ina, who was a friend of my parents and originally from Germany, and actually older than them, was visiting and the television was on. The British program (I have no idea of what kind of a program it was) ended and as the names of the various people who had been working on it were rolling by we saw Ina get very upset and tremendously excited. Ina was half Jewish, and apart from two elderly distant aunts living in Berlin, there was no one else left from her family - and she saw her family name! After quite a bit of determined searching, (late 70-ties) it turned out to belong to the son of a cousin who had handed their son over to a stranger at a railway station in Belgium as they were about to be sent to a concentration camp in Germany. He had ended up in England and he never knew that he had any relatives at all.
Just let me add that Nazi Germany did not only want to eradicate the Jews with their "final solution", they applied the same measures to the Gypsies. Many countries in Europe of today are still incredibly discriminating towards their Roma populations, keeping their children out of school and the adults out of work - systematically. It is worst in some Central European countries, such as Romania, but systematic discrimination is real in most of Europe. This is shameful, to say the least.
Load More Replies...It seems the far left label anyone they disagree with as nazis. If you're a moderate, libertarian or a rational left thinker you can be deemed a nazi so the word loses the original meaning. Antifa have been known to physically attack people on the left merely for holding a US flag.
The amazing photograph should have been acknowledged! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Woman_Hitting_a_Neo-Nazi_With_Her_Handbag . It is a perfect illustration of one of my favourite words: civil courage, which is something we need much more of, before it has become too late, again.
Does anyone remember the people of Krikkit, from Hitchhicker's guide to galaxy? The peaceful, Beatles-like, happy killers
Ever since I first saw the picture of the woman slinging her purse at the head of a neo-Nazi, I've longed to see the next pictures, the moment her heavy bag impacted on his head, and right afterward. Did getting beamed by someone old enough to remember actual Nazis knocked some sense into him...probably not. Chances are he OD'd in some filthy rathole not too many years after this picture was taken anyway.
It seems to me that both Trump and Antifa are using some of these ideas.
Actually, it's not complicated, people have the right to be hateful and say awful things. You have the right to respond to that, to say things back, to refuse to do business with them, hire them, etc. but you can't strike the first blow, you can't take away their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, that's an elemental part of American life, we might not always do it right, but we try.
Load More Replies...Another nazi ideology is, if a child is going to be born with a deformity or disability, it should be aborted. They also believed that citizens should not be allowed to have weapons. There are a lot of nazi ideology that can be said to be held by the left, or the right. This just looks to me to be another attempt to say that if you don’t want lawbreakers to be a part of your country, illegally, then you are a nazi. No one, with the exception of the extreme whackos, has ever said that they don’t want people from other countries to come here, most just don’t want people from other countries to come here illegally, and take advantage of our system. There really is a big difference unless you have put on your blinders and don’t want to look at the big picture.
He already covers the killing of people with disabilities, so I'm not really sure why you're offer that up as a counter argument, also your second point is wrong they did not believe that citizens should not be allowed to have weapons, they just took weapons away from certain groups in the same way they took other rights away from certain groups, after WW1 Germans were banned from owning guns, the government change this in 1928 to allow some people gun ownership and Hitler came to power in 1933 and further relaxed the laws but started removing guns from Jews and other ethnic groups using the registers that were used in 1928. Even if you're to say that anti gun ownership was part of their ideology(which it was not) it's important to know that it's not the part of their ideology that people have a problem with, ISIS believe in carrying out charity work, no one has a problem with that it's the genocide and rape that people hate.
Load More Replies...A KKK supporter is obviously a racist! I don't understand your point.
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