DJ Sparks Controversy After Getting Kicked Off Flight For Not Wearing A Bra And Files Complaint
A woman claims she was kicked off a Delta Airlines plane after she was told her clothes were too revealing. The passenger, Lisa Archbold, says the incident took place on a flight from Salt Lake City to San Francisco on January 22.
According to the New Zealand flier, the airline’s gate agent gave her a “super weird” welcome, but she thought nothing of it until a few moments later when she boarded the plane.
- A woman claims she was removed from a Delta flight for not wearing a bra
- The incident occurred en route from Salt Lake City to San Francisco
- Delta reserves the right to refuse or deplane fliers when “the passenger’s conduct, attire, hygiene, or odor creates an unreasonable risk of offense or annoyance to other passengers.”
After Archbold was seated, she was approached by Delta staff. “I’m thinking: someone has died, or they found something weird in my bag,” the traveler told the New Zealand Herald.
A woman claims she was removed from a Delta Airlines flight for not wearing a bra and was judged based on her appearance
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“This woman from the ground crew comes to me and loudly says in front of the whole plane, ‘I need to speak to you in private. Follow me,’” said Archbold.
Her first reaction was to link the unexpected call to the contents of her checked luggage. As a publicist, she had attended the Sundance Film Festival to promote an actor’s liquor brand, which is why her bag was full of vodka bottles.
However, she later realized that the issue wasn’t related to the liquor she carried inside her luggage but to the fact that she wasn’t wearing a bra.
The Kiwi woman, named Lisa Archbold, says the incident took place on a flight from Salt Lake City to San Francisco on January 22
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Archbold says the airline’s gate agent gave her a “super weird” welcome, but she thought nothing of it until she boarded the plane
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“It is Delta’s policy to remove anyone in revealing clothes from the aircraft,” Archbold, who identifies as queer, claims to have been told.
The Delta Airlines staff warned: “I will allow you to stay on the plane if you put your jacket on.”
Then, the former judo champion was reportedly summoned to the front of the aircraft.
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“I was dressed like a little boy in baggy pants and shirt. I had no idea what she was talking about,” said Archbold, sharing a photo of her casual outfit.
The Kiwi expatriate maintains she was being targeted because she was wearing “men’s clothes” and was unfairly treated based on her appearance. Additionally, she said that her choice not to wear a bra should have been immaterial.
Once on board, Archbold was approached by a Delta employee, who told her they needed to speak in private
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“Neither were the men on that flight and lots have bigger breasts than me,” the publicist, who goes by “DJette Kiwi,” said.
Delta does not have an official dress code for travelers.
Under its domestic contract of carriage, however, the airline reserves the right to refuse or deplane fliers when “the passenger’s conduct, attire, hygiene, or odor creates an unreasonable risk of offense or annoyance to other passengers.”
“I will allow you to stay on the plane if you put your jacket on,” Archbold claims to have been told before she was summoned to the front of the aircraft
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The woman believes she adhered to the dress code, arguing the airline employee “weaponized Delta’s policy to humiliate and abuse a woman [who] she didn’t think was being a woman in the right way.”
The passenger filed an official complaint with the airline and is waiting to hear back, according to The Herald.
The passenger filed an official complaint with the airline and is waiting to hear back
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Archbold is based in New York and travels regularly for work. She said that she had never experienced similar issues in her four years of living in the United States.
Many people agreed with Delta Airline’s decision to remove the woman from the plane
I don't wear a bra. I refuse to be bullied about it. But I don't wear see-through tops. The top in that picture is clearly see-through. You didn't get kicked out for not wearing a bra. You got kicked out for having an outfit where People could clearly see the color of your nipples. Don't play the victim card.
It had nothing to do with not having a bra on. She was exposing herself with a sheer white top. It’s not proper dress for public. Public has rules and law. Private you can do what you want.
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I'd only be on deltas side if they also kicked off every man wearing a button down shirt without a white undershirt. Nipples can be showing in both cases, so apply the prudish policy equally
I had this exact same thought. No way they'd kick off a man in a similar situation.
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Useless without a picture of what she was actually wearing - we have to assume that she was wearing a see-through top or something else very revealing - lack of a bra on its own would not be an issue. Personally I wouldn't have a problem, but if so I could see their point. More importantly it sounds like she was deliberately wanting the attention, perhaps even flaunting it, and as the first comment suggests she could probably have covered up easily enough but chose not to do so just in order to get the publicity.
While I don't think there's anything indecent about nipples, this person is obviously an attention seeker (has kindly provided 184 photos of herself in this article) and an idiot. It's Utah. It's not Kabul, but they aren't as open minded there as other parts of the country. (Edit: open-minded about what women are allowed to wear. Men can get away with anything).
Here on the North American continent we treat casual non-entertainment centered breasts and the nipples on them like mini sex offenders. It's difficult to feel comfortable going braless in the most opaque of tops for fear of even the shape of your nipples "offending" someone. Here we've all been raised to believe boobs are primarily sexual... Which is embarrassing.
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Yet another self-centered Z-list nobody with Main Character Syndrome who absolutely manufactured this non-crisis for attention. They didn't deplane you because you weren't wearing a bra, or because you were wearing men's clothes, or because you're queer, but solely because you deliberately chose to wear a see-through shirt, knowing full well exactly what would happen and how you might exploit it. Seriously, fück all the way off.
I don't think ANYONE, male or female or whatever you identify as, should wear a sheer top with nothing underneath when you're flying. Have a little decency and consideration for your fellow humans. Thus "memeneMYRIGHTS!!!" bs is so old and lame. Your rights end when they infringe on someone else's rights. You're only doing it for attention and to make a statement.
She looks so annoying just on pictures i can't imagine IRL. But does annoying people can fly ? Yep.
If a man would be allowed to wear it on the flight, then a woman should be allowed to also. If a man is allowed to wear a mesh net top in public without raising eyebrows, then we should have the same standards for women. We need to stop policing women's bodies. It is up to men to control themselves.
I didn't go any further in the article than her duck-lips selfie where I could see the colour of her n1pple through her sheer white top. This wasn't so much about being braless as it was about basically being topless.
i kinda see both sides, but i also live in a country where being topless for both genders is legal, even if not advised at least in our winters... as long as this rule is applied to men equally, i don't see the issue with making her wear her jacket and cover up her see-thru shirt. if they let men get on the plane wearing something just as revealing... then there is bias, plus you must abide by the country of origin's rules for whomever owns the airline on flights and the US doesn't have the same nudity laws as my native canada, so i wouldn't expect to be allowed to go on a plane in a see-thru shirt. now, if they had dinged her just for not wearing a bra, i would have an issue with that, because it is a personal choice and they are horrible for most women.
It's actually very reasonable not to wear a bra for a flight - the metal detector won't beep for your underwire, so you can spare yourself an annoying and borderline humiliating search. Plus not being uncomfortable in a plane, where you're essentially commuting, so it shouldn't mater how you look.
The issue wasn't about the bra, you can clearly see the shirt is see through. They didn't care whether she was dressed in boys clothes or not confirming to the patriarchy. They just wanted to cover her boobs for the family friendly flight. If she refused to put a jacket on then that's on her.
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Fish pout exhibitionist. Ugly attention seeker. Not worth reading.
I could care less about myself or family seeing female breast or nipples, but I realize there is a dress code and majority of people adhere to social norms about covering up and nudity in public is frowned upon. I realize that the dress codes are different from men and women and are not “fair”. There was a time men were not permitted to go topless too. In any case the dress code exists as do many other rules of conduct and if we choose not to abide by these rules we risk consequences. In this case she chose to wear a see through top and whether she was aware of them or not the company had a policy in place that allowed them to remove her or anyone else wearing revealing clothing from the plane. Not likely this one incident will change societal views enough to change company policy. Also, it is unlikely that she would prevail should she attempt seek compensation for breaking the rule, unfair application of the rule, or unfairness of the rules terms.
I don't wear a bra. I refuse to be bullied about it. But I don't wear see-through tops. The top in that picture is clearly see-through. You didn't get kicked out for not wearing a bra. You got kicked out for having an outfit where People could clearly see the color of your nipples. Don't play the victim card.
It had nothing to do with not having a bra on. She was exposing herself with a sheer white top. It’s not proper dress for public. Public has rules and law. Private you can do what you want.
Load More Replies... I'd only be on deltas side if they also kicked off every man wearing a button down shirt without a white undershirt. Nipples can be showing in both cases, so apply the prudish policy equally
I had this exact same thought. No way they'd kick off a man in a similar situation.
Load More Replies... Useless without a picture of what she was actually wearing - we have to assume that she was wearing a see-through top or something else very revealing - lack of a bra on its own would not be an issue. Personally I wouldn't have a problem, but if so I could see their point. More importantly it sounds like she was deliberately wanting the attention, perhaps even flaunting it, and as the first comment suggests she could probably have covered up easily enough but chose not to do so just in order to get the publicity.
While I don't think there's anything indecent about nipples, this person is obviously an attention seeker (has kindly provided 184 photos of herself in this article) and an idiot. It's Utah. It's not Kabul, but they aren't as open minded there as other parts of the country. (Edit: open-minded about what women are allowed to wear. Men can get away with anything).
Here on the North American continent we treat casual non-entertainment centered breasts and the nipples on them like mini sex offenders. It's difficult to feel comfortable going braless in the most opaque of tops for fear of even the shape of your nipples "offending" someone. Here we've all been raised to believe boobs are primarily sexual... Which is embarrassing.
Load More Replies... Yet another self-centered Z-list nobody with Main Character Syndrome who absolutely manufactured this non-crisis for attention. They didn't deplane you because you weren't wearing a bra, or because you were wearing men's clothes, or because you're queer, but solely because you deliberately chose to wear a see-through shirt, knowing full well exactly what would happen and how you might exploit it. Seriously, fück all the way off.
I don't think ANYONE, male or female or whatever you identify as, should wear a sheer top with nothing underneath when you're flying. Have a little decency and consideration for your fellow humans. Thus "memeneMYRIGHTS!!!" bs is so old and lame. Your rights end when they infringe on someone else's rights. You're only doing it for attention and to make a statement.
She looks so annoying just on pictures i can't imagine IRL. But does annoying people can fly ? Yep.
If a man would be allowed to wear it on the flight, then a woman should be allowed to also. If a man is allowed to wear a mesh net top in public without raising eyebrows, then we should have the same standards for women. We need to stop policing women's bodies. It is up to men to control themselves.
I didn't go any further in the article than her duck-lips selfie where I could see the colour of her n1pple through her sheer white top. This wasn't so much about being braless as it was about basically being topless.
i kinda see both sides, but i also live in a country where being topless for both genders is legal, even if not advised at least in our winters... as long as this rule is applied to men equally, i don't see the issue with making her wear her jacket and cover up her see-thru shirt. if they let men get on the plane wearing something just as revealing... then there is bias, plus you must abide by the country of origin's rules for whomever owns the airline on flights and the US doesn't have the same nudity laws as my native canada, so i wouldn't expect to be allowed to go on a plane in a see-thru shirt. now, if they had dinged her just for not wearing a bra, i would have an issue with that, because it is a personal choice and they are horrible for most women.
It's actually very reasonable not to wear a bra for a flight - the metal detector won't beep for your underwire, so you can spare yourself an annoying and borderline humiliating search. Plus not being uncomfortable in a plane, where you're essentially commuting, so it shouldn't mater how you look.
The issue wasn't about the bra, you can clearly see the shirt is see through. They didn't care whether she was dressed in boys clothes or not confirming to the patriarchy. They just wanted to cover her boobs for the family friendly flight. If she refused to put a jacket on then that's on her.
Load More Replies... Fish pout exhibitionist. Ugly attention seeker. Not worth reading.
I could care less about myself or family seeing female breast or nipples, but I realize there is a dress code and majority of people adhere to social norms about covering up and nudity in public is frowned upon. I realize that the dress codes are different from men and women and are not “fair”. There was a time men were not permitted to go topless too. In any case the dress code exists as do many other rules of conduct and if we choose not to abide by these rules we risk consequences. In this case she chose to wear a see through top and whether she was aware of them or not the company had a policy in place that allowed them to remove her or anyone else wearing revealing clothing from the plane. Not likely this one incident will change societal views enough to change company policy. Also, it is unlikely that she would prevail should she attempt seek compensation for breaking the rule, unfair application of the rule, or unfairness of the rules terms.
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