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Guy Tracks Down A Woman Who Ignored Him On A Dating App To Complain About It, But She Puts Him In His Place

Guy Tracks Down A Woman Who Ignored Him On A Dating App To Complain About It, But She Puts Him In His Place

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Awkward conversations are an essential part of online dating. But the exchange that writer Natalia Antonova had with one of her Bumble admirers proved to be way more uncomfortable than the average small talk.

The guy got very bitter that he didn’t match with Natalia on the app. So he did what every madman would do: he tracked her down on Instagram and slid into her DMs to complain about it.

Luckily, Natalia handled it like a pro and put him in his place.

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Sharing the conversation, Natalia called it “a great moment in incel history.” The term, a portmanteau of “involuntary celibate”, describes a member of an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to find a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.

Incel online discussions are often characterized by resentment and hatred, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against sexually active people.

You could say their culture is a result of toxic masculinity. Aaron Gouveia, the author of Raising Boys to Be Good Men, thinks toxic masculinity is so prominent in our society because it is the default. “It’s societal and systemic—the stew in which men automatically marinate and the air we breathe,” he told Bored Panda.

“Boys are bombarded with toxic masculinity and hyper-masculine messages right from the outset, starting with the ‘Lock up your daughters’ onesies we put on children to how men are taught to stifle basic human emotions like sadness, empathy, and compassion. It’s saying ‘no homo’ when we hug a male friend or being told we’re ‘gay’ any time we actually get vulnerable with someone. It’s pervasive to the point of being inescapable and it’s the invisible hands around our necks before we even know we’re being strangled. Only by recognizing it, sitting with the uncomfortable truth that we’re affected by it, and making a concerted effort to combat it can we start implementing change,” Gouveia, whose upcoming book Men and Miscarriage is coming out July 6, explained.

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The conversation got really weird really fast

But Natalia didn’t lose her cool

And handled the situation perfectly

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It might seem that only women have to deal with this crap. But toxic masculinity produces much more than awkward conversations on dating apps. Guys suffer from it too. “All boys and men experience toxic masculinity,” Gouveia said.

“My three boys play youth sports and we always have at least a few parents who are of the ‘stop throwing like a girl’ variety, as if anything womanly is an insult. When I was working as a journalist years ago and my wife was in banking, she made more than double my salary. I’d accompany her to lavish corporate retreats and all the other men there would make ‘sugar mama’ comments to me and wonder how I could stand my wife making more money. When I took paternity leave with my youngest two sons, some people were surprised and asked me how my ‘vacation’ was upon my return. As if taking care of a newborn is relaxing. Again, toxic masculinity is everywhere all the time and experienced by all.”

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Gouveia thinks that so far we have not contained toxic masculinity. At all. “The emergence of the term is a positive because it’s being recognized, but the backlash has been severe and predictable as well,” he explained. “You can’t see what you won’t bother looking for and, unfortunately, a lot of men fall into this category when it comes to toxic masculinity.”

“I was one of them for a while. My book, Raising Boys to Be Good Men, is written from that vantage point. It’s about all the things I did wrong and all the ways I contributed to toxic masculinity without even knowing what that term was. I know full well some people can’t be reached but I also believe some men, like me, might change their ways when they realize they’ve been contributing to a problem they didn’t even know existed. When we know better we can do better, and that’s why parents are the most important demographic to reach. It’s much easier to build boys up to be good men than to change the mindsets of adults who have absorbed a lifetime of toxicity.”

In 2019, for the first time ever, American Psychological Association (APA) released guidelines to help psychologists work with men and boys. At first glance, this may seem unnecessary. After all, as of 2018, 95.2 percent of chief operating officers at Fortune 500 companies were men. In 16 of the top companies, 80 percent of all high-ranking executives were male. And the 115th Congress, which began in 2017, was 81 percent male.

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But consider this: men commit 90 percent of homicides in the US and represent 77 percent of homicide victims. They’re the demographic group most at risk of being victimized by violent crime. They are also 3.5 times more likely than women to die by suicide, and their life expectancy is 4.9 years shorter than women’s. Plus, boys are far more likely to be diagnosed with attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder than girls, and they face harsher punishments in school—especially boys of color.

“It’s very important to note that denouncing toxic masculinity doesn’t mean all masculinity is bad,” Gouveia added. “We’re talking about toxic extremes. For instance, strength is a positive but raising a kid to be tough at all times and never show weakness, emotion, or vulnerability is toxic. Wanting to protect your family is obviously a good thing, but not when fathers of daughters gatekeep their daughters’ virginity and think threatening every boy who comes along is acceptable.”

Saying you’re against toxic masculinity is not hating all men or being weak, the author highlighted, it’s recognizing that some extreme aspects of masculinity severely limit boys and men and negatively impact society in general.

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Grady'sRaider
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why, when someone behaves badly, people continue to engage with them. I'm reminded of an expression, "Don't wrestle with a pig. The pig enjoys it, and you are just going to get dirty."

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

FFS, BP! STOP with the constant reloading and pop up ads! I can’t even scroll down through a whole article, or finish a comment, without some ad page bumping me out, and when I X out of the ad page, it puts me back at the top of the article and I have to struggle to scroll down again!!! STOP IT!!!

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Mangelo Il Fumatori
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had to install an adblocker on my browser to stop that stupid reloading.

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Gin Marie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about the times a woman turns a guy down, he calls her...."Whore." Dude, I just chose CELIBACY over you.

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Paddling Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Right? I absolutely do NOT miss online dating...or dating at all. :-)

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Manuela Martins
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men with such fragile egos who allow themselves this kind of behaviour are neither funny nor comedy gold. This is wrong in every sense. To stalk a woman on her social accounts because they didn't match on a stupid dating platform?! And then forcing some weirdo conversation upon her?! What in Christ's name is wrong with the world?!

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Aunt Messy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Watching them squirm when you don't permit them to do this to you IS comedy gold. I can't help it if you have no sense of humor.

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Rob Dabank
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You ignored me, so I am going to track you down, make you think I am likeable then prove you were right to ignore me in the first place. Nice tactic!

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Lunar Bicycle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being rejected feels lousy, but grownups deal with it and move on. Little boys lash out.

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Sum Guy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He blew it... why bring up what happened on bumble if you already have her laughing on Instagram... if you want to share that, you can tell her 3 years later after your 2 year wedding anniversary

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Lauren Caswell
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly! If he wanted to be with her coz he liked her genuinely. He just wanted to find a way to let her know she was wrong about him. That guy can't see the forest for the trees when it comes to his need to be correct ruining his chances. Swipe, no Swipe, who cares 🤷‍♀️ I find the idea of those sites way too intimidating myself, but seeing as he had to ig track her to make contact it looks like it's reasonably secure. Still too scary.

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Stille20
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's funny, the guys who pursued me the hardest are often the ones that then bailed when I returned interest. Like they got their validation, but weren't really ready for a relationship. I wonder if women are like this too. A want what you can't have mentality

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Miriam L
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's actually frightening that he tracked her down. Thankful that he didn't have worse things in mind

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Nikki Owens
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get how liking someone based on their personality rather than on their looks qualifies as "shallow"... isn't that the exact opposite of shallow?

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Mimi777
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is this obsession with tall men?? I’m a short girl (5’1) and I prefer to have someone closer to my height, not towering over me and not having to look up while I talk to them.

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Woets
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, I was wrong: Keep giving these creeps a lot of attention, that will teach them!

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Doob
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he was a foundation, he would be so insecure, Mike Holmes burned the house down.

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Nizumi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's mind-boggling. I'm in my 50s. Grey hair and all. Some guy on a bench says "You're beautiful" as I pass by and when I don't respond, he snaps, "B!tch". Maaaannnnnn come on! The first unsolicited compliment I get in about 12 years and he ruins it by being fragile. :\

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Anyone-for-tea?
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do *some* men who are tall or well endowed think they are god’s gift? I went on a dinner date with a 6ft3 Texan who couldn’t understand why his wife divorced him when he has an 8 inch uncut c**k (as a Brit I can tell you the uncut bit is weird to us!). But who tells someone that on a first date?

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Aunt Messy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

MEN who are tall and well endowed do NOT think they're god's gift, and they won't tell you how "nice" they are. They don't even thing about things like that. Assholes will tell you that, but they are little boys and should get sent to their rooms.

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WilvanderHeijden
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since nearly the entire world is on social media you're bound to have to interact with the occasional fool, idiot, moron, creep or crazy lady. Best policy is to ignore and block them.

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Brandy Grote
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2 years ago

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Block them when they first insult you. Problem solved! Wow, I met my hub online - well, 20 years ago - but then I did go thru a couple weird ones before I hut the jackpot...

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Aunt Messy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These creeps need to be outed. If there was a way to post their names and addresses, that would be great.

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Grady'sRaider
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't understand why, when someone behaves badly, people continue to engage with them. I'm reminded of an expression, "Don't wrestle with a pig. The pig enjoys it, and you are just going to get dirty."

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Kathryn Baylis
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2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

FFS, BP! STOP with the constant reloading and pop up ads! I can’t even scroll down through a whole article, or finish a comment, without some ad page bumping me out, and when I X out of the ad page, it puts me back at the top of the article and I have to struggle to scroll down again!!! STOP IT!!!

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Mangelo Il Fumatori
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I had to install an adblocker on my browser to stop that stupid reloading.

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Gin Marie
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How about the times a woman turns a guy down, he calls her...."Whore." Dude, I just chose CELIBACY over you.

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Paddling Panda
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Right? I absolutely do NOT miss online dating...or dating at all. :-)

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Manuela Martins
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Men with such fragile egos who allow themselves this kind of behaviour are neither funny nor comedy gold. This is wrong in every sense. To stalk a woman on her social accounts because they didn't match on a stupid dating platform?! And then forcing some weirdo conversation upon her?! What in Christ's name is wrong with the world?!

onemessylady avatar
Aunt Messy
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Watching them squirm when you don't permit them to do this to you IS comedy gold. I can't help it if you have no sense of humor.

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Rob Dabank
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

You ignored me, so I am going to track you down, make you think I am likeable then prove you were right to ignore me in the first place. Nice tactic!

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Lunar Bicycle
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Being rejected feels lousy, but grownups deal with it and move on. Little boys lash out.

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Sum Guy
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

He blew it... why bring up what happened on bumble if you already have her laughing on Instagram... if you want to share that, you can tell her 3 years later after your 2 year wedding anniversary

laurencaswell4 avatar
Lauren Caswell
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Exactly! If he wanted to be with her coz he liked her genuinely. He just wanted to find a way to let her know she was wrong about him. That guy can't see the forest for the trees when it comes to his need to be correct ruining his chances. Swipe, no Swipe, who cares 🤷‍♀️ I find the idea of those sites way too intimidating myself, but seeing as he had to ig track her to make contact it looks like it's reasonably secure. Still too scary.

Load More Replies...
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Stille20
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's funny, the guys who pursued me the hardest are often the ones that then bailed when I returned interest. Like they got their validation, but weren't really ready for a relationship. I wonder if women are like this too. A want what you can't have mentality

miriaml avatar
Miriam L
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That's actually frightening that he tracked her down. Thankful that he didn't have worse things in mind

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Nikki Owens
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't get how liking someone based on their personality rather than on their looks qualifies as "shallow"... isn't that the exact opposite of shallow?

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Mimi777
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What is this obsession with tall men?? I’m a short girl (5’1) and I prefer to have someone closer to my height, not towering over me and not having to look up while I talk to them.

geertepeerte avatar
Woets
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I'm sorry, I was wrong: Keep giving these creeps a lot of attention, that will teach them!

tiheyo6831 avatar
Doob
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If he was a foundation, he would be so insecure, Mike Holmes burned the house down.

nizumi avatar
Nizumi
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It's mind-boggling. I'm in my 50s. Grey hair and all. Some guy on a bench says "You're beautiful" as I pass by and when I don't respond, he snaps, "B!tch". Maaaannnnnn come on! The first unsolicited compliment I get in about 12 years and he ruins it by being fragile. :\

wj_vaughan avatar
Anyone-for-tea?
Community Member
2 years ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Why do *some* men who are tall or well endowed think they are god’s gift? I went on a dinner date with a 6ft3 Texan who couldn’t understand why his wife divorced him when he has an 8 inch uncut c**k (as a Brit I can tell you the uncut bit is weird to us!). But who tells someone that on a first date?

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Aunt Messy
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

MEN who are tall and well endowed do NOT think they're god's gift, and they won't tell you how "nice" they are. They don't even thing about things like that. Assholes will tell you that, but they are little boys and should get sent to their rooms.

Load More Replies...
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WilvanderHeijden
Community Member
2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Since nearly the entire world is on social media you're bound to have to interact with the occasional fool, idiot, moron, creep or crazy lady. Best policy is to ignore and block them.

bcgrote avatar
Brandy Grote
Community Member
2 years ago

This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

Block them when they first insult you. Problem solved! Wow, I met my hub online - well, 20 years ago - but then I did go thru a couple weird ones before I hut the jackpot...

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Aunt Messy
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2 years ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

These creeps need to be outed. If there was a way to post their names and addresses, that would be great.

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