Woman Can’t Understand Why She Struggles To Find A Man, Friend Gets Blatantly Honest
Many people hope to meet their knight in shining armor or the girl of their dreams, whatever the qualities these definitions entail for them. And while that typically involves setting certain standards, going overboard with them might mean never getting to meet said individuals in real life.
This redditor has recently told one of their acquaintances that she should lower the standards she has set for a potential partner or try to meet them herself. However, the suggestions were taken as fat-shaming, consequently stirring up drama in the friend group.
Finding a romantic partner is not equally easy for everyone
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This woman was told to either improve herself or to lower her standards for a potential partner if she wants to find one
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Setting unrealistic standards might make finding a partner close to impossible
Setting certain standards for a potential partner is a pretty important step when diving into the dating pool. Typically based on desired features—be it inside or out—it helps an individual to paint a clearer picture of what it is they hope to find in a significant other; and that might be necessary, in order for people not to end up with someone who’s in no way a good match for them.
However, having standards that are too high can result in never getting to meet that special someone. Stumbling upon someone who ticks a hundred boxes is difficult, if at all possible, especially since we only get to meet a certain number of people throughout our lifetime. Take Ted Mosby, for instance, the character from the beloved How I Met Your Mother series, who was told that out of the 9 million people in New York, there are only 8 women suitable for him. (Season 1, episode 7 if you want to rewatch it.)
While Love Solutions—the matchmaking agency that helped Ted do the math—is fictitious, curious individuals nowadays can reportedly check how many individuals meet the expectations they have set. The standards calculator presented by Keeper allows those living in the US to learn what percent of people in the country live up to their standards.
Based on said calculator, Lola’s standards for a potential partner—such as being over six foot two, making six figures, and not being obese, as the person must be a frequent visitor to the gym—are only met by 0.24% of all men in the United States. (That is if you exclude married men and use the suggested age gap of 22 to 42.)
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Dating has seemingly gotten more difficult over the last decade
Research on gender differences in standards for relationships revealed that both men and women in heterosexual relationships found such set expectations to be similar in importance; however, females noted it more that their standards were met less fully than their male counterparts did.
Whether their standards are seemingly excessive or not, quite a few people find dating increasingly difficult nowadays. According to a Pew Research Center survey, nearly half of adults in the US believe that dating has become harder in the last decade.
While both men and women report equal levels of dissatisfaction with dating, there are some gender-based differences here, too, as single-and-looking females are more likely to say that they have encountered particularly negative experiences (such as harassing behaviors) while dating.
According to another survey carried out by said research center, one more dating-related thing that has changed quite drastically over the last decade is online dating, which seemed to have boomed over a rather short period of time. Back in 2022, roughly one-in-ten partnered adults—those who are married, in a committed romantic relationship, or living with their partner—said that they have met their current significant other through a dating site or app.
In their story, the OP revealed that Lola has tried her luck at online dating, too. But unfortunately, it seemingly didn’t bring much luck, which, in the redditor’s eyes, might have something to do with the somewhat unrealistic standards the woman has set.
According to the OP, if you want to be with someone who takes part in certain hobbies or fosters certain habits, it might be best if you show interest in them, too, which is the opinion she shared with Lola. But despite Lola considering it fat-shaming, such views didn’t make the OP a jerk in the eyes of redditors, which they expressed in the comments section.
Fellow netizens didn’t consider the OP a jerk in the situation
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NTA. Lola asked for advice and got it. Only, instead of the false praise she was expecting to receive, OP, as tactfully as possible, told her the hard truths she needed to hear. Her list of expectations for a future husband are rather unreasonable. It's a good thing that Lola heard it from a friend, and not someone she wanted to date. A sugar-coated lie is like antifreeze: sweet to the taste, but does more harm than good.
As a lawyer friend told me, never ask a question you don’t want to know the answer to.
That's my dad's advice. My lawyer's advice is to never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.
Load More Replies...Lola is delusional, along with the friend who said "Lola is worthy and deserving of a great guy and doesn't need to change herself."
That's true, except that Lola needs to recognise that a great guy is not just what is on her laundry list of expectations. She will find no guy and keep wondering why forever, the only real friend advice she has received is from the OP.
Load More Replies...As a man I see this in men all the time, too (myself included). There's certainly nothing wrong with fantasizing about physical, mental, and societal ideals. We ALL do that. However, there are certain realities to consider in order to be happy. "There are a million things in this universe you can have and a million things you can't. It's no fun facing that but that's how it is."
So, essentially a femcel. Delsusional about themselves and their wants and it's everyone else that's the issue. What makes it even more stupid, and I guess less femcel, is that she is attractive enough that guys do approach her. She literally has no one to "blame" other than herself.
NTA... your friend is living in a delusional fairy tale world that sounds very unrealistic. Even worse is that she wears white every time you go out, like she's a princess (not damsel) in distress that'll meet her prince charming in a restaurant. You told her the truth & it hit her like a ton of bricks. She got offended cause you were right & not about what you said. I find it very odd that she described her type of man similar to YOUR boyfriend. Don't leave him alone with her for sure, not even to "fix" something at her place. 😄
I seriously doubt OP is under any threat of losing her boyfriend to Lola.
Load More Replies...If you want a partner who goes to the gym, go to the gym. If you want a partner with a certain type of career, pursue that career. If you want a partner with musical inclinations, pick up an instrument. Do the work yourself, not this "manifest a husband" bullshît.
Seems obvious. Lola has intimacy issues and she uses her unrealistic expectations as armor. But since she doesn't have the romantic attention of a man, she wants sympathy attention from her friends to fill the gap. Some of her friends understand this and placate her feelings. What this person did was try to give sincere and useful advice. That was never gonna fly, because it doesn't address the root of the problem: Lola has intimacy issues.
If Lola REALLY wants to be happy she needs to open her eyes and be more accepting. I (about an 8) married my *dream guy* (also about an 8) and guess what? That didn't work for a variety of reasons (mostly he treated me like sh*t). I rebounded to a 4 - pretty much the total opposite of what I thought I wanted in a guy and here we are about to celebrate our 24th anniversary. From short instead of tall, unemployed at the time I met him, blonde instead of brunette, chunky instead of fit... treated me like a freaking queen (mostly). You have to be open to the experience.
The truth is always an insult to someone who has already made up their mind.
I'm 6'2", cycle, walk and swim at the beach, mildly successful, lurve country music, and sing, (poorly). Apart from the height, my accomplishments, personal and professional, came with the support of my wife. Maybe Lola should look for a guy with potential.
You didn’t say she wasn’t deserving of a nice partner—you suggested that she should be some of the things she wants in a partner, which is true. I met my BF at a car show. I can play music and, yes, an [emotionally mature] musician will be a lot more interested if she has some experience with music. Literally all the couples I know share some kind of interest, even if it’s not a primary interest for one or both of them. She’s not offering anything except that she exists, and she’s looking for someone else to create a life and an identity as the Wife Of Rich Hot Talented Guy for her. I mean, everyone deserves a partner who treats them well but a real relationship is not gonna be a 90/10 thing where they bring all the interesting stuff and you’re just an accessory.
She should give someone a chance when they show interest. Sometimes you find love in the person you might least expect it. My bf is the best man I could have wished for. When we first met I didn't know what to think about him, we were far away and from different races, but I still gave him a shot since he seemed sincere. I met the man of my dreams (not that I had a delusional list like Lola) in someone I would have never thought of looking for in first place... So yeah, never be quick to judge
She asked for advice and that is what she received but, it is clear she didn't want honest advice, she wanted her delusions validated and lost it when that didn't happen.
Hey- I have some free advice! lol. And I'm going to ignore my own advice here - so, extra fun! Ok; was Einstein a smart man? Yes he was. He was also a human- all the time. He was weird- and took cr.ap for it, internationally. He knew about cr.ap. This quote from him is 86% certainly really from him. ""If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z, X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein He knew plenty about work; just as much about play- and learned about Z. I recommend remembering that one- "When in doubt - Z." Life will be easier.
"i want a guy who is going to the gym" "ok, then you should go to the gym." "stop fat shaming me!"
There are women who are incels too. These are the guys who are single and blame women because they won't date them. No insight or self-awareness. She gave good advice. A therapist would have done the same. Delusion = a fixed false belief in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Why are you still friends with her, she sounds very toxic like a chubby 🖍 crayon, sorry but I would be brutally blunt and ask her if she has looked in the mirror lately and does she like what she sees ?
I don't understand the female mentality of gladly accepting lies as compliments. For me I am a little on the plus size and it one of my friends once day would call me a "fat f**k", it would only prompt me to be a lot more careful in that domain and improve myself. In the end I would be grateful to that friend. NTA
The friend asked for, and received advice. It's on them to take the initiative for self improvement, which it appears they did not. That's on them, not you. You are nta, but friends deluding your friend are.
Can add a temper tantrum and twisted "friends" around to "defend" her from the truth to the hard pass list for her dating life
NTA. I once bluntly told my friend she was a ticking health time bomb and she got really angry. This was a good 10 years ago. She is now diabetic, has had cancer scares and now MS, none of which is genetic and all of which was brought on by lifestyle. She has also developed a touch of maunchausens and loves misery bombing us with conditions we know are not true (eg - crohns? then why are you drinking beer and eating cake (not GF)? Some people need to be told, but they also need to LISTEN.
Lola needs major therapy. Her attitude is very hypocritical and unrealistic. She’s a do as I say not as I do type of person. People like that have no integrity and end up alone,and miserable and blame everyone else for their problems.
OMG - this could be my sister's friend Gisselle. She is a bit overweight, very opinionated, somewhat militant in most of her beliefs, and in my opinion, not all that attractive - like a 5 at best. Which kinda sucks for her because her two sisters are gorgeous, married VERY well and each have equally beautiful children/homes. Her "must" list is just as delusional as Lola's. She lives on the East Coast (US) and has always expected some "Hamptons millionaire" to fall madly in love with her. Said millionaire has to be fit & over 6', while she's a dumpy 5'4. etc, etc. Well, she's now in her mid fifties, has never been married or had any serious long term realtionships. She always wanted children (she made good money, I don't know why she didn't try to adopt). So NOW she's basically a childless, bitter spinster that NO ONE wants to hang around.
I'm still friends with a friend from junior high. There's group of us that remained friends from elementary through high school and beyond and are still close. However, with this one friend, I had to stop hanging out with her for a similar reason as OP: she would constantly complain about her boyfriend at the time. I would never bring it up and would purposely steer the conversation elsewhere or even wouldn't acknowledge what she was saying when talking about him. But every single time, she brought it back to him. I just stopped hanging out with her. Luckily they eventually broke up and I think she got the hint so stopped doing that type of thing, and we've been back to hanging out whenever we can again. There's nothing wrong with wanting to vent but being considerate of someone else's time and life is a good thing.
This is probably going to be unpopular, but I think OP was a little bit of an AH. Now before you downvote, let me explain. Lola didn't ask for advice. She asked for OP's experience. There's a huge difference. Lola asked how OP got her man (to paraphrase), which is a totally different question than if she had asked "how do I get a man like your BF?" (Which as far as we know is not what she asked, but it is what OP answered). OP should have shared her experience honestly about how she met Jim, and steered clear of generalizing and advice giving. Most people don't want advice even when they're complaining about something. And it IS rude to give unsolicited advice. In short, 1) answer the question asked. 2) Share personal experience instead of giving advice. 3) Be honest and kind, those are not mutually exclusive.
That Lola "wanted to know how OP got him" isn't merely a request for a story of her experience. It's a request for a roadmap on how to replicate the experience. So no, not an AH at all.
Load More Replies...NTA. Lola asked for advice and got it. Only, instead of the false praise she was expecting to receive, OP, as tactfully as possible, told her the hard truths she needed to hear. Her list of expectations for a future husband are rather unreasonable. It's a good thing that Lola heard it from a friend, and not someone she wanted to date. A sugar-coated lie is like antifreeze: sweet to the taste, but does more harm than good.
As a lawyer friend told me, never ask a question you don’t want to know the answer to.
That's my dad's advice. My lawyer's advice is to never ask a question you don't already know the answer to.
Load More Replies...Lola is delusional, along with the friend who said "Lola is worthy and deserving of a great guy and doesn't need to change herself."
That's true, except that Lola needs to recognise that a great guy is not just what is on her laundry list of expectations. She will find no guy and keep wondering why forever, the only real friend advice she has received is from the OP.
Load More Replies...As a man I see this in men all the time, too (myself included). There's certainly nothing wrong with fantasizing about physical, mental, and societal ideals. We ALL do that. However, there are certain realities to consider in order to be happy. "There are a million things in this universe you can have and a million things you can't. It's no fun facing that but that's how it is."
So, essentially a femcel. Delsusional about themselves and their wants and it's everyone else that's the issue. What makes it even more stupid, and I guess less femcel, is that she is attractive enough that guys do approach her. She literally has no one to "blame" other than herself.
NTA... your friend is living in a delusional fairy tale world that sounds very unrealistic. Even worse is that she wears white every time you go out, like she's a princess (not damsel) in distress that'll meet her prince charming in a restaurant. You told her the truth & it hit her like a ton of bricks. She got offended cause you were right & not about what you said. I find it very odd that she described her type of man similar to YOUR boyfriend. Don't leave him alone with her for sure, not even to "fix" something at her place. 😄
I seriously doubt OP is under any threat of losing her boyfriend to Lola.
Load More Replies...If you want a partner who goes to the gym, go to the gym. If you want a partner with a certain type of career, pursue that career. If you want a partner with musical inclinations, pick up an instrument. Do the work yourself, not this "manifest a husband" bullshît.
Seems obvious. Lola has intimacy issues and she uses her unrealistic expectations as armor. But since she doesn't have the romantic attention of a man, she wants sympathy attention from her friends to fill the gap. Some of her friends understand this and placate her feelings. What this person did was try to give sincere and useful advice. That was never gonna fly, because it doesn't address the root of the problem: Lola has intimacy issues.
If Lola REALLY wants to be happy she needs to open her eyes and be more accepting. I (about an 8) married my *dream guy* (also about an 8) and guess what? That didn't work for a variety of reasons (mostly he treated me like sh*t). I rebounded to a 4 - pretty much the total opposite of what I thought I wanted in a guy and here we are about to celebrate our 24th anniversary. From short instead of tall, unemployed at the time I met him, blonde instead of brunette, chunky instead of fit... treated me like a freaking queen (mostly). You have to be open to the experience.
The truth is always an insult to someone who has already made up their mind.
I'm 6'2", cycle, walk and swim at the beach, mildly successful, lurve country music, and sing, (poorly). Apart from the height, my accomplishments, personal and professional, came with the support of my wife. Maybe Lola should look for a guy with potential.
You didn’t say she wasn’t deserving of a nice partner—you suggested that she should be some of the things she wants in a partner, which is true. I met my BF at a car show. I can play music and, yes, an [emotionally mature] musician will be a lot more interested if she has some experience with music. Literally all the couples I know share some kind of interest, even if it’s not a primary interest for one or both of them. She’s not offering anything except that she exists, and she’s looking for someone else to create a life and an identity as the Wife Of Rich Hot Talented Guy for her. I mean, everyone deserves a partner who treats them well but a real relationship is not gonna be a 90/10 thing where they bring all the interesting stuff and you’re just an accessory.
She should give someone a chance when they show interest. Sometimes you find love in the person you might least expect it. My bf is the best man I could have wished for. When we first met I didn't know what to think about him, we were far away and from different races, but I still gave him a shot since he seemed sincere. I met the man of my dreams (not that I had a delusional list like Lola) in someone I would have never thought of looking for in first place... So yeah, never be quick to judge
She asked for advice and that is what she received but, it is clear she didn't want honest advice, she wanted her delusions validated and lost it when that didn't happen.
Hey- I have some free advice! lol. And I'm going to ignore my own advice here - so, extra fun! Ok; was Einstein a smart man? Yes he was. He was also a human- all the time. He was weird- and took cr.ap for it, internationally. He knew about cr.ap. This quote from him is 86% certainly really from him. ""If A equals success, then the formula is: A = X + Y + Z, X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." - Albert Einstein He knew plenty about work; just as much about play- and learned about Z. I recommend remembering that one- "When in doubt - Z." Life will be easier.
"i want a guy who is going to the gym" "ok, then you should go to the gym." "stop fat shaming me!"
There are women who are incels too. These are the guys who are single and blame women because they won't date them. No insight or self-awareness. She gave good advice. A therapist would have done the same. Delusion = a fixed false belief in spite of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Why are you still friends with her, she sounds very toxic like a chubby 🖍 crayon, sorry but I would be brutally blunt and ask her if she has looked in the mirror lately and does she like what she sees ?
I don't understand the female mentality of gladly accepting lies as compliments. For me I am a little on the plus size and it one of my friends once day would call me a "fat f**k", it would only prompt me to be a lot more careful in that domain and improve myself. In the end I would be grateful to that friend. NTA
The friend asked for, and received advice. It's on them to take the initiative for self improvement, which it appears they did not. That's on them, not you. You are nta, but friends deluding your friend are.
Can add a temper tantrum and twisted "friends" around to "defend" her from the truth to the hard pass list for her dating life
NTA. I once bluntly told my friend she was a ticking health time bomb and she got really angry. This was a good 10 years ago. She is now diabetic, has had cancer scares and now MS, none of which is genetic and all of which was brought on by lifestyle. She has also developed a touch of maunchausens and loves misery bombing us with conditions we know are not true (eg - crohns? then why are you drinking beer and eating cake (not GF)? Some people need to be told, but they also need to LISTEN.
Lola needs major therapy. Her attitude is very hypocritical and unrealistic. She’s a do as I say not as I do type of person. People like that have no integrity and end up alone,and miserable and blame everyone else for their problems.
OMG - this could be my sister's friend Gisselle. She is a bit overweight, very opinionated, somewhat militant in most of her beliefs, and in my opinion, not all that attractive - like a 5 at best. Which kinda sucks for her because her two sisters are gorgeous, married VERY well and each have equally beautiful children/homes. Her "must" list is just as delusional as Lola's. She lives on the East Coast (US) and has always expected some "Hamptons millionaire" to fall madly in love with her. Said millionaire has to be fit & over 6', while she's a dumpy 5'4. etc, etc. Well, she's now in her mid fifties, has never been married or had any serious long term realtionships. She always wanted children (she made good money, I don't know why she didn't try to adopt). So NOW she's basically a childless, bitter spinster that NO ONE wants to hang around.
I'm still friends with a friend from junior high. There's group of us that remained friends from elementary through high school and beyond and are still close. However, with this one friend, I had to stop hanging out with her for a similar reason as OP: she would constantly complain about her boyfriend at the time. I would never bring it up and would purposely steer the conversation elsewhere or even wouldn't acknowledge what she was saying when talking about him. But every single time, she brought it back to him. I just stopped hanging out with her. Luckily they eventually broke up and I think she got the hint so stopped doing that type of thing, and we've been back to hanging out whenever we can again. There's nothing wrong with wanting to vent but being considerate of someone else's time and life is a good thing.
This is probably going to be unpopular, but I think OP was a little bit of an AH. Now before you downvote, let me explain. Lola didn't ask for advice. She asked for OP's experience. There's a huge difference. Lola asked how OP got her man (to paraphrase), which is a totally different question than if she had asked "how do I get a man like your BF?" (Which as far as we know is not what she asked, but it is what OP answered). OP should have shared her experience honestly about how she met Jim, and steered clear of generalizing and advice giving. Most people don't want advice even when they're complaining about something. And it IS rude to give unsolicited advice. In short, 1) answer the question asked. 2) Share personal experience instead of giving advice. 3) Be honest and kind, those are not mutually exclusive.
That Lola "wanted to know how OP got him" isn't merely a request for a story of her experience. It's a request for a roadmap on how to replicate the experience. So no, not an AH at all.
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