TikToker Explains How Misogyny Seeps Into Our Culture, Shows That Dress Codes Are Not That Innocent In A Viral Video
It’s no secret that our society is governed by rules that start from an early age, and we don’t really question them. And it starts from a basic level. Think of the school dress codes that tell girls and boys how to dress. Recently a group of teenagers at a Sacramento art school even staged a protest to challenge the “sexist” dress code that you can read about in our previous article.
Now, the TikToker Chan, @chan42911, has posted an illuminating video where she shared her thoughts on how dress codes are inherently misogynistic and why they teach young girls “that their bodies are property and inherently sexual.”
Her video that amassed 3.3M views and went viral was made in response to another TikToker who asked people to share things that are “incredibly misogynistic but everyone ignores and pretends like it’s normal.”
Chan’s explanation will likely stir some thoughts, so let us know what your take is on dress codes and school uniforms in the comments below!
Image credits: chan42911
@chan42911##stitch with @platformboobs I could talk abt this for hours there’s so much wrong w it ##fyp ##feminism ##dresscode ##misogyny♬ original sound – Chan
More and more people believe it’s time to finally end sexist dress codes in school. The topic has come to the spotlight in the past years as a variety of incidents have shown how flawed the system is.
A year ago, a public high school in Texas made it into headlines for suspending a 17-year-old gay male student for wearing fingernail polish. But the polish would have been perfectly acceptable if the student were female.
According to the school’s student handbook, the dress code prohibits males from wearing makeup or nail polish, noting that the penalty for violating the dress code is an in-school suspension “until the problem is corrected, or until a parent or designee brings an acceptable change of clothing to the school.”
Similarly, a transgender Texas teen said she’s been banned from school until she adheres to male dress code. That would mean losing her earrings and cutting her hair, reported Metro Weekly.
But such rules not only put pressure on trans kids: many argue that the very idea of gendered dress code, telling girls to wear short skirts and boys to dress in pants, is inherently sexist. You can’t help but wonder what educational value in schools such demands give to children, and whether there’s one at all.
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Share on FacebookDress codes and uniforms are not in themselves misogynistic, but the way they seem to be enforced in some places seems to be. If they are designed just to make sure pupils are dressed smartly or similarly to their peers, and prepared for the real word, i think it's fine. Issue is when they start having different rules for girls or boys, and start using the "distraction" excuse, which is insulting nonsense to everyone involved. We had a dress code at school, however it was things like no ripped jeans for anyone as it wasnt considered smart enough for a school environment, and having worked in a number of offices since, is pretty much a standard rule in a lot of workplaces
The purpose of uniforms is to instill discipline, unity and equality among students.
Load More Replies...Dress code is disgusting because like op says is based on adults sexualising girls. In my school, girls above 14yo couldnt wear short pants (of any kind not even showing the ankle). We asked a teacher why the boys could and he said "well his knees are not erotic". Which implies that he tought that a 14yo girls knees are...
You’ve gotta me kidding me. Look, I did educational outreach in Louisiana for a year and sang for many title 9 schools where there were uniforms. I asked a teacher why, and they told me it was to remove the greatest source of bullying and violence; not all kids could afford the same clothing and would steal each other’s shoes. Stop trying to make the world all about your privileged victimhood. Some people are actually suffering. 🤦♂️
I think school uniforms are great, not just for the reasons you stated but because it can increase a feeling of belonging and unity in the school. This wasn't about that kind of dress code. This was about the dress code that sends 5 year old girls home for spaghetti straps. The kind that polices the length of girls' shorts but not the length of boys'. It's about authority figures sending the message that the girls need to cover up or they'll distract the boys and male teachers.
Load More Replies...That is the battle without ending. There are many men who simply hate women and nothing, nothing can change their minds. I left some social networks (most recently Quora, if that's social network at all) because of the amount of pure bullying and hatred and disrespect when I tried, very carefully and with respect to explain some man why what he posted is misogynistic and why he should respect women more. I god horrible, disrespectful, ignorant and amount of purely evil responses as a result, not just from that man but from many of them. Some were personal insults to me, and all to the point I felt too overwhelmed and miserable and decided after string of tragedies I had this year, I can't cope with that too. Some men simply hate women and I see no way out of it. They don't want to know, they feel better believing we are the enemies and we are the source of all evil. It's sad, it's the world we live in, not safe, ever.
It’s a terribly insulting thing to falsely accuse someone of being misogynistic. If men are being intentionally misogynistic, you don’t need to inform them politely or calmly. If you felt the need, it’s because the comments made were not openly misogynistic but according to the lens you look through, you deemed them so. Instead of having discourse and asking them if they thought their words were misogynistic, you informed them that they were. What an impossible and insulting position to put someone in, no matter how politely you might have tried. Could they have handled it differently, yes, as differently as you could have. Who is more guilty? Does it matter? If someone accused me of being misogynistic because of their interpretation of my statement, and gave me the option of either accepting their opinion or disagreeing with them but being guilty either way, I’d probably hurl insults too. If you can’t see how that’s insulting, it’s probably the inner misandry you harbor for men.
Load More Replies...HERE IS WHY DRESS CODES ARE MYSOGNISTIC: Boys dress code: Shirt with a collar and pants. Dark colored shoes. Girls dress code: shirt with a collar and pants or a skirt. The shirt must be buttoned so that nothing below the collar bone shows and the shirt must be long enough to be tucked in. The pants must be of reasonable fit and not too tight and must cover all undergarments properly. Skirts must be at least knee length and have no slits or cuts; they must be straight or of a design that will not be affected by playing, fast walking/running, or weather (wind). Proper undergarments must be worn at all times but not be visible or noticeable under the clothes. Dark colored shoes. Failure to comply with the dress code will result in the student being sent home for the day. After three dress code violations the student will receive a suspension. Repeated offenses can lead to expulsion.
You absurdly simplify boys dress codes, but yes, girls' dress codes are more specific. Why does it specify that girls' skirts must be below the knee? Because unlike the boy's pants, skirts don't NECESSARILY go to the heel. Why do they get measured? Because many girls will try to get to get attention by hiking them way, way, way up. Why specify no slits? (Boys can't wear sliced up pants) Many girls try to get attention by wearing slits anywhere, including precisely at their butt cheeks. So for every attempt to skirt the rules, there's a clarification.
Load More Replies...Many in the comments seem to miss the point that females are taught that they must be sexual, and yet be blamed for it, before *puberty*. They're merrily colluding with that by talking about how girls are wearing their clothes, which implies they're looking at school-aged girls as sexual objects. That's part of the problem. They shouldn't be sexualized by peers or adults! ...
Seems like it would be quicker to pull the boys out of the classroom and tell them to stop than to make the girl leave and change.
Firstly, I was always told that having a school uniform, for boys and girls, was a way of preparing children for the working world and the associated uniforms of the job. It also prevented bullying by the rich kids, who could afford the fancy brands, of the poorer kids who couldn't. Secondly, I don't understand how making girls wear a uniform is connected to them being anyone's property. If anything, they are shown to be a part of the school community and nothing more. I'm a bit baffled by this one, I must admit. Could someone enlighten me please?
The OP is addressing those instances where school uniforms aren't in use. Think of a public school with no uniforms and the girls are told their skirts are too short, their pants are too tight, their shirts are too low cut, but the boys aren't. The schools my nieces and nephews go to have uniforms: polo style shirts and jeans or khakis for all students and girls can wear either denim or khaki skirts if they choose. It eliminates the problems you are addressing, but girls are still pulled from class for the fit/cut of their skirts or pants and boys aren't.
Load More Replies...Although male staff members should not do the enforcement themselves, there is so much nonsense in this article: Yes, dress codes exist for boys. No, dress codes aren't because the adult males find THEMSELVES tantalized by the outfits that are banned. Yes, girls often compete for who can wear the most provocative outfits, even though adult males are not who they intend to provoke (usually, their focus is on what other girls will find cool). No, skimpy clothes are not cheaper so no way do I buy "Gosh, skimpy is all I can afford." No, limits on how provocative clothes are don't imply that rape victims "had it coming."
you know you americans are afraid of everything europeans see as normal and you accuse us of communism for it ( paid vacation, health care etc). but you know what? we do not have dress code in schools, at least not to such extent as you do. there were strict rules during communism saying boys could not have long hair. there is a rule that you should wear clean and appropriate clothes meaning you cannot come to school in your pajamas or in heavily damaged clothes. but no girl ( or boy for that matter) was sent home for wearing shorts, skirt , ripped jeans or sleeveless shirts or anything similar. if there is a particular problem with dress code it is addressed with the parent on regular/ad hoc 121 meetings. It sometimes happens some old school teachers may make remarks about the image but there is no rule that they can send the kid home. in my high school we had a boy with a mohican hair style of almost 50 cm high with different colors and some teachers were even enthusiastic about it.
so to sum it up: you are afraid of communism but impose communist style dress codes in your schools. and this is coming from a person living in a former communist country (Czechoslovakia, now Slovakia) where we do not have dress codes in schools or at least no one cares
Load More Replies...It's inevitable that I'll get howled down for this, but on this occasion, I think she's wrong. There was a dress code for boys at every school I went to growing up in both Australia and England. I'm an office worker and there is a dress code for men there, too: a suit and tie. Who the f**k wants to wear a tie in 40 degree C (104 F) heat? There are still many sexist things about society but this is not a good example.
I went to a school with a uniform (even a preppy little blazer..), needless to say I hated it. But as I got a tiny bit older and marginally wiser, I noticed that on a non-uniform day people would be real d***s! The things people got bullied over was crazy, certain brands had to shown, you couldn't wear the same thing too often, cheap clothes sniffed out instantly. It was horrible! I'm totally pro uniform now! (Granted I'm long out of school!)
On of my friends wore a sundress to middle school when it was 100+ degrees out, and got dress coded. On the same day, boys were either tying their shirts into bras or taking them of completely during gym, and nothing happened. To anyone that says that this stuff isn't true, f**k off.
OK MY TIME HAS COME I (last year) went to a school that had a uniform. We had to wear nice clothes, no leggings and jeans, nothing abnormal. Those fancy collared shirts and stuff. This school was a charter school This year I am going to a small town Junior High (7-8th) and we are not allowed to wear shorts. IN MISSOURI. We have to cover holes in our jeans and cover our butts when wearing leggings. NO crop tops WHATSOEVER. My best friends partner, they got dress coded for wearing shorts that went down to her knees with leggings by our principal last week. We have to have sleeves in tank tops at least (I can't remember exactly) 1-1 /2 inches. Bullcrap
not saying this is not a problem, i'm just trying to see the whole thing differently: a child(7-18) is not able to properly evaluate/process raw instincts triggered by certain types of clothing. Without proper education, the later young adult will continue to a certain degree with this "inability". In most cases, it will be only when someone will highlight that one shouldn't act in a certain way under certain circumstances, uniform or not. Education is key in eliminating this subject. This goes for all genders, naturally.
So why can boys wear "wife beaters" to school, but if a girl does she gets sent home for it. Why can boys sag their pants in school showing their underwear,but girls are sent home for shorts that are 1/2 too short? These are the issues I think she was trying to get across. Boys can wear sleeveless shirts,girls can't. Why??? We both have arms right? Why is the girl sent home but not the boy?
Unless a dress code has no standards for males, they are no more misogynist than they are misandrist. The fact they may different requirements is neither one nor the other.... and a dress code cannot be both because that would be contradictory.
Boys DO have a dress code, and men generally have a much more strict dress code in offices, sweating away in their shirt and tie all summer while women wear dresses.
I'm a volunteer child advocate in high schools. You do not know what little girls go through at all. You are one sided and not aware of anyone but yourself. Most days I want to quit bc of what I hear from these little girls and the things adult men women and boys say and do them. It takes all my strength not to cry or punch someone in the face. Dress codes are not enforced on boys. Girls are blamed and sexualized by adults every single day. Women wearing dresses get blamed for sexual assault bc they were showing their legs and men can't control themselves it is the same thing they tell all little girls in every high school I've been too fighting for these little girls
Load More Replies...100% against dress codes. If the parents are fine with a kid leaving the house in a certain way then I could care less. If a kid has a top, bottom, and shoes then they are good to go as far as I am concerned. Clothing is something I feel is sanctioned by the parents. Parent okay with you wearing a mid-drift then so am I but classrooms are typically pretty cold so not the wisest choice but that just me.
dress codes, summer time, it's hot Men: no flip-flops , no tank tops. Women: open toed sandals and sleeveless tops or dresses that are basically just tank tops with some lacy crap on it. ACCEPTABLE!
Girls compete with other girls for male attention. It's why there is a need for a dress code. If boys started dressing in Borat's mankini or wearing shorts that were too small and exposed their bums or left nothing to anyone's imagination what their genitals looked like, then there would be a dress code for boys as well. If a boy did dress like that they would be regarded as unusual by the other boys and be ridiculed into dressing normally.
You can't "wish-away" or "gender-blame" into submission hundreds of thousands of years of biological evolution and attraction. It's the "law of the jungle" and "need" to satisfy. Men are visual creatures and "desire" can't be legislated out of existence. To avoid un-wanted "attraction - modest clothing will probably help. Blinding all men might too. Evolutionary laws will always trump mans'. You don't have to accept it but you do have to live in it. In order to live with "some" peace, "you can't always get what you want".
The dress code at my school says that you can't wear halter tops, short shorts, spaghetti straps, or crop tops. The only things named are girl clothes. You are an idiot if you believe that we live in a completely equal society, where everyone is treated the way that they should be.
Load More Replies...How long did you have to scroll to find that very specific example?
Load More Replies...Dress codes and uniforms are not in themselves misogynistic, but the way they seem to be enforced in some places seems to be. If they are designed just to make sure pupils are dressed smartly or similarly to their peers, and prepared for the real word, i think it's fine. Issue is when they start having different rules for girls or boys, and start using the "distraction" excuse, which is insulting nonsense to everyone involved. We had a dress code at school, however it was things like no ripped jeans for anyone as it wasnt considered smart enough for a school environment, and having worked in a number of offices since, is pretty much a standard rule in a lot of workplaces
The purpose of uniforms is to instill discipline, unity and equality among students.
Load More Replies...Dress code is disgusting because like op says is based on adults sexualising girls. In my school, girls above 14yo couldnt wear short pants (of any kind not even showing the ankle). We asked a teacher why the boys could and he said "well his knees are not erotic". Which implies that he tought that a 14yo girls knees are...
You’ve gotta me kidding me. Look, I did educational outreach in Louisiana for a year and sang for many title 9 schools where there were uniforms. I asked a teacher why, and they told me it was to remove the greatest source of bullying and violence; not all kids could afford the same clothing and would steal each other’s shoes. Stop trying to make the world all about your privileged victimhood. Some people are actually suffering. 🤦♂️
I think school uniforms are great, not just for the reasons you stated but because it can increase a feeling of belonging and unity in the school. This wasn't about that kind of dress code. This was about the dress code that sends 5 year old girls home for spaghetti straps. The kind that polices the length of girls' shorts but not the length of boys'. It's about authority figures sending the message that the girls need to cover up or they'll distract the boys and male teachers.
Load More Replies...That is the battle without ending. There are many men who simply hate women and nothing, nothing can change their minds. I left some social networks (most recently Quora, if that's social network at all) because of the amount of pure bullying and hatred and disrespect when I tried, very carefully and with respect to explain some man why what he posted is misogynistic and why he should respect women more. I god horrible, disrespectful, ignorant and amount of purely evil responses as a result, not just from that man but from many of them. Some were personal insults to me, and all to the point I felt too overwhelmed and miserable and decided after string of tragedies I had this year, I can't cope with that too. Some men simply hate women and I see no way out of it. They don't want to know, they feel better believing we are the enemies and we are the source of all evil. It's sad, it's the world we live in, not safe, ever.
It’s a terribly insulting thing to falsely accuse someone of being misogynistic. If men are being intentionally misogynistic, you don’t need to inform them politely or calmly. If you felt the need, it’s because the comments made were not openly misogynistic but according to the lens you look through, you deemed them so. Instead of having discourse and asking them if they thought their words were misogynistic, you informed them that they were. What an impossible and insulting position to put someone in, no matter how politely you might have tried. Could they have handled it differently, yes, as differently as you could have. Who is more guilty? Does it matter? If someone accused me of being misogynistic because of their interpretation of my statement, and gave me the option of either accepting their opinion or disagreeing with them but being guilty either way, I’d probably hurl insults too. If you can’t see how that’s insulting, it’s probably the inner misandry you harbor for men.
Load More Replies...HERE IS WHY DRESS CODES ARE MYSOGNISTIC: Boys dress code: Shirt with a collar and pants. Dark colored shoes. Girls dress code: shirt with a collar and pants or a skirt. The shirt must be buttoned so that nothing below the collar bone shows and the shirt must be long enough to be tucked in. The pants must be of reasonable fit and not too tight and must cover all undergarments properly. Skirts must be at least knee length and have no slits or cuts; they must be straight or of a design that will not be affected by playing, fast walking/running, or weather (wind). Proper undergarments must be worn at all times but not be visible or noticeable under the clothes. Dark colored shoes. Failure to comply with the dress code will result in the student being sent home for the day. After three dress code violations the student will receive a suspension. Repeated offenses can lead to expulsion.
You absurdly simplify boys dress codes, but yes, girls' dress codes are more specific. Why does it specify that girls' skirts must be below the knee? Because unlike the boy's pants, skirts don't NECESSARILY go to the heel. Why do they get measured? Because many girls will try to get to get attention by hiking them way, way, way up. Why specify no slits? (Boys can't wear sliced up pants) Many girls try to get attention by wearing slits anywhere, including precisely at their butt cheeks. So for every attempt to skirt the rules, there's a clarification.
Load More Replies...Many in the comments seem to miss the point that females are taught that they must be sexual, and yet be blamed for it, before *puberty*. They're merrily colluding with that by talking about how girls are wearing their clothes, which implies they're looking at school-aged girls as sexual objects. That's part of the problem. They shouldn't be sexualized by peers or adults! ...
Seems like it would be quicker to pull the boys out of the classroom and tell them to stop than to make the girl leave and change.
Firstly, I was always told that having a school uniform, for boys and girls, was a way of preparing children for the working world and the associated uniforms of the job. It also prevented bullying by the rich kids, who could afford the fancy brands, of the poorer kids who couldn't. Secondly, I don't understand how making girls wear a uniform is connected to them being anyone's property. If anything, they are shown to be a part of the school community and nothing more. I'm a bit baffled by this one, I must admit. Could someone enlighten me please?
The OP is addressing those instances where school uniforms aren't in use. Think of a public school with no uniforms and the girls are told their skirts are too short, their pants are too tight, their shirts are too low cut, but the boys aren't. The schools my nieces and nephews go to have uniforms: polo style shirts and jeans or khakis for all students and girls can wear either denim or khaki skirts if they choose. It eliminates the problems you are addressing, but girls are still pulled from class for the fit/cut of their skirts or pants and boys aren't.
Load More Replies...Although male staff members should not do the enforcement themselves, there is so much nonsense in this article: Yes, dress codes exist for boys. No, dress codes aren't because the adult males find THEMSELVES tantalized by the outfits that are banned. Yes, girls often compete for who can wear the most provocative outfits, even though adult males are not who they intend to provoke (usually, their focus is on what other girls will find cool). No, skimpy clothes are not cheaper so no way do I buy "Gosh, skimpy is all I can afford." No, limits on how provocative clothes are don't imply that rape victims "had it coming."
you know you americans are afraid of everything europeans see as normal and you accuse us of communism for it ( paid vacation, health care etc). but you know what? we do not have dress code in schools, at least not to such extent as you do. there were strict rules during communism saying boys could not have long hair. there is a rule that you should wear clean and appropriate clothes meaning you cannot come to school in your pajamas or in heavily damaged clothes. but no girl ( or boy for that matter) was sent home for wearing shorts, skirt , ripped jeans or sleeveless shirts or anything similar. if there is a particular problem with dress code it is addressed with the parent on regular/ad hoc 121 meetings. It sometimes happens some old school teachers may make remarks about the image but there is no rule that they can send the kid home. in my high school we had a boy with a mohican hair style of almost 50 cm high with different colors and some teachers were even enthusiastic about it.
so to sum it up: you are afraid of communism but impose communist style dress codes in your schools. and this is coming from a person living in a former communist country (Czechoslovakia, now Slovakia) where we do not have dress codes in schools or at least no one cares
Load More Replies...It's inevitable that I'll get howled down for this, but on this occasion, I think she's wrong. There was a dress code for boys at every school I went to growing up in both Australia and England. I'm an office worker and there is a dress code for men there, too: a suit and tie. Who the f**k wants to wear a tie in 40 degree C (104 F) heat? There are still many sexist things about society but this is not a good example.
I went to a school with a uniform (even a preppy little blazer..), needless to say I hated it. But as I got a tiny bit older and marginally wiser, I noticed that on a non-uniform day people would be real d***s! The things people got bullied over was crazy, certain brands had to shown, you couldn't wear the same thing too often, cheap clothes sniffed out instantly. It was horrible! I'm totally pro uniform now! (Granted I'm long out of school!)
On of my friends wore a sundress to middle school when it was 100+ degrees out, and got dress coded. On the same day, boys were either tying their shirts into bras or taking them of completely during gym, and nothing happened. To anyone that says that this stuff isn't true, f**k off.
OK MY TIME HAS COME I (last year) went to a school that had a uniform. We had to wear nice clothes, no leggings and jeans, nothing abnormal. Those fancy collared shirts and stuff. This school was a charter school This year I am going to a small town Junior High (7-8th) and we are not allowed to wear shorts. IN MISSOURI. We have to cover holes in our jeans and cover our butts when wearing leggings. NO crop tops WHATSOEVER. My best friends partner, they got dress coded for wearing shorts that went down to her knees with leggings by our principal last week. We have to have sleeves in tank tops at least (I can't remember exactly) 1-1 /2 inches. Bullcrap
not saying this is not a problem, i'm just trying to see the whole thing differently: a child(7-18) is not able to properly evaluate/process raw instincts triggered by certain types of clothing. Without proper education, the later young adult will continue to a certain degree with this "inability". In most cases, it will be only when someone will highlight that one shouldn't act in a certain way under certain circumstances, uniform or not. Education is key in eliminating this subject. This goes for all genders, naturally.
So why can boys wear "wife beaters" to school, but if a girl does she gets sent home for it. Why can boys sag their pants in school showing their underwear,but girls are sent home for shorts that are 1/2 too short? These are the issues I think she was trying to get across. Boys can wear sleeveless shirts,girls can't. Why??? We both have arms right? Why is the girl sent home but not the boy?
Unless a dress code has no standards for males, they are no more misogynist than they are misandrist. The fact they may different requirements is neither one nor the other.... and a dress code cannot be both because that would be contradictory.
Boys DO have a dress code, and men generally have a much more strict dress code in offices, sweating away in their shirt and tie all summer while women wear dresses.
I'm a volunteer child advocate in high schools. You do not know what little girls go through at all. You are one sided and not aware of anyone but yourself. Most days I want to quit bc of what I hear from these little girls and the things adult men women and boys say and do them. It takes all my strength not to cry or punch someone in the face. Dress codes are not enforced on boys. Girls are blamed and sexualized by adults every single day. Women wearing dresses get blamed for sexual assault bc they were showing their legs and men can't control themselves it is the same thing they tell all little girls in every high school I've been too fighting for these little girls
Load More Replies...100% against dress codes. If the parents are fine with a kid leaving the house in a certain way then I could care less. If a kid has a top, bottom, and shoes then they are good to go as far as I am concerned. Clothing is something I feel is sanctioned by the parents. Parent okay with you wearing a mid-drift then so am I but classrooms are typically pretty cold so not the wisest choice but that just me.
dress codes, summer time, it's hot Men: no flip-flops , no tank tops. Women: open toed sandals and sleeveless tops or dresses that are basically just tank tops with some lacy crap on it. ACCEPTABLE!
Girls compete with other girls for male attention. It's why there is a need for a dress code. If boys started dressing in Borat's mankini or wearing shorts that were too small and exposed their bums or left nothing to anyone's imagination what their genitals looked like, then there would be a dress code for boys as well. If a boy did dress like that they would be regarded as unusual by the other boys and be ridiculed into dressing normally.
You can't "wish-away" or "gender-blame" into submission hundreds of thousands of years of biological evolution and attraction. It's the "law of the jungle" and "need" to satisfy. Men are visual creatures and "desire" can't be legislated out of existence. To avoid un-wanted "attraction - modest clothing will probably help. Blinding all men might too. Evolutionary laws will always trump mans'. You don't have to accept it but you do have to live in it. In order to live with "some" peace, "you can't always get what you want".
The dress code at my school says that you can't wear halter tops, short shorts, spaghetti straps, or crop tops. The only things named are girl clothes. You are an idiot if you believe that we live in a completely equal society, where everyone is treated the way that they should be.
Load More Replies...How long did you have to scroll to find that very specific example?
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