
‘I Don’t Mean To Rub Salt In Your Wounds’: Swede Tells Americans What It’s Like To Live In Sweden And It’s Eye-Opening
GDP per capita rose by 50 percent in Sweden between 1995–2016. In 2018, researchers at Oxfam and Development Finance International named it the most committed country to reducing inequality, and according to the World Happiness Report 2020, it’s the 7th happiest place on Earth. So I guess it’s safe to say the Swedes have it good. But what exactly is their secret?
Well, this Swedish citizen thinks it’s purposeful internal politics. In a recent Facebook post, they used their own life as an example to explain taxes, healthcare, and other vital parts of their country. The post soon went viral, making its way into personal feeds abroad, too. Foreigners — especially Americans — even got jealous.
Image credits: Fredrik Rubensson
As Elke Asen, a Policy Analyst with the Tax Foundation’s Center for Global Tax Policy, pointed out, Scandinavian countries are well-known for their broad social safety net and their public funding of services such as universal healthcare, higher education, parental leave, and child and elderly care.
Of course, high levels of public spending require high levels of taxation. In 2018, Denmark’s tax-to-GDP ratio was at 44.9 percent, Norway’s at 39.0 percent, and Sweden’s at 43.9 percent. For comparison, the same in the US was 24.3 percent.
In 2018, these three Northern Ruropean countries raised a high amount of tax revenue as a percent of GDP from individual taxes, almost exclusively through personal income taxes and social security contributions.
One way to analyze the level of taxation on wage income is to look at what experts call the “tax wedge,” a figure that shows the difference between an employer’s cost of an employee and the employee’s net disposable income.
In 2018, the tax wedge for a single worker with no children earning a nation’s average wage was 35.8 percent in Denmark, 35.9 percent in Norway, and a whopping 43.0 percent in Sweden. Although Denmark and Norway are below the OECD average of 36.1 percent, their tax wedges—and Sweden’s—are higher than the U.S. tax wedge of 29.6 percent.
By international comparison, Sweden is a prosperous country that evenly distributes wealth between its citizens. Its sociopolitical model consists of three fundamental pillars: a labor market that facilitates adjustment to change, a universal welfare policy, and an economic policy that promotes openness and stability. And after reading the now-viral post on Facebook, people have been saying it must be working.
Universal healthcare is great for capitalism. Universal daycare is great of capitalism. Universal college education is great for capitalism. A minimum wage that someone can live off of is great for capitalism. All of the above improves the economy and well being of employees and will lead to higher profits for companies. Come on USA, give it a try!
We would, if people didn’t think socialism and communism were one in the same. Many of us support socialism. But many of us don’t. And so if Biden even shows support for socialism, or passes any law remotely socialist, there will be outcry among many, maybe even among those who voted for him. Maybe someday we could be relatively socialist. But only if it’s done right, and very gradually. Things are too tense right now for there to be a sudden change.
And yet those people that decry socialism don't realize social security, medicare, public schools, police departments, fire departments, and roads are all a form of socialism. Do you think they'd give up any of that?
Americans don't know the difference between Democratic Socialism and Socialism. The education system and propaganda are set up to make sure they don't learn
Read your Marx, of course socialism and communism are NOT the same. But to reach communism a society has to go through socialism.....
J. Zingler what
People tend to support socialism when they benefit from it, free education, healthcare, welfare etc, but those same people are normally reluctant to support it when they have to pay for it.
John Smith Good response!
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I'd add - universal income is great for capitalism, too. Allows people to work on some things that in our society today they cannot if they have to make a living - like studying old Norse, or french poetry, or doing arts, creative writing etc etc. It is good for a society to have people who do that and they improve education of others and inspire society overall and foster more creativity - which is good for capitalism!
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Funny how lower middle class nitwits shill for big corporations to have huge profits. Hilarious. Dupe.
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Great, now we have the opinion of a barista that still lives with his parents. Have a seat
Okay Boomer, how about you sit this one out. Stock market is at 30,000 and people are going hungry in this country. Trickledown economics is an abject failure. We need to run the economy in a better way.
My health insurance costs more per month than his total income taxes.
Miss Cellania lol
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And I bet you voted for Obama.
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geez what s**t insurance do you have??? My wife and I pay a total of 285 per month for United Healthcare... decent coverage.
What's hilarious is that you think that's a reasonable amount to pay.
AlphaPuck easy
The US Founding Fathers were rich, white men, most of them slaveowners. The system they created functions exactly as they intended.
Right you are, and the Constitution functions very well. It is pure genius. Show me where the Founding Fathers had ANYTHING to do with taxes, cost of insurance, home ownership, price of gas, health insurance, etc. You can't because they did not. Hell, income tax was over a century away when it was written. But, "the man is keepin' you down!" Ninja, please.
Thank you!
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Good Life Gifts yes
... america is weird ( i am american)
I really do not understand how Americans still think or are made to think this is called Socialism. Educate yourself. In the Netherlands we call it a social democracy. Also, when voting, way more options than just republican or democrate.
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So you're okay with handing away your rights, power, money, and decision making to a few people in high places but just not completely? Socialism is the first step of Communism.
"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." We here in the US have defended rights, power, money, and decision making until we have none left: eminent domain, jobs gamed to break people, stagnant wages, skyrocketing healthcare, politics disrupting medicine. Our degraded university system has adjuncts teach for an under-living wage while professors focus on publish-or-perish accompanied by a glut of non-reproducible studies. Our high school level students aren't taught to survive in the real world, like how to pay taxes. Our tech schools don't have a good correlation to our industrial needs. Our politics are polarizing and rigged to favor the wealthy. Our for-profit prisons house more prisoners per million people than any other nation, not including parole and house arrest. But I got a pistol. Not like I can stand against the US Army. But if some dumb kid breaks in, bang bang. How much worse can communism possibly be?
GOD I wish America worked like that
It's worth noting that the US wastes so much money on warfare that we can't Promote the General Welfare. Bullets, Beans, and Band Aids. The US only spends taxes on the first one. That's why we don't have enough of the second two.
The USA currently spends about 1.3 trillion on medicare, 1.1 trillion on social security and just over 700 billion on defense. Even if you disbanded the entire military tomorrow that 700 billion would not be close to paying for universal healthcare.
Steven Cook no
GOP has robbed USA and most Americans are too blind and deaf to care.
Not most. Nowhere near most. Just look at the last election.
To be fair: Over 70 millions Americans voted for Trump. Which means that over 70 million Americans are totally fine with an incompetent administration that would do anything to favor the rich at the cost of even a remote chance for poor people to live a decent life. And if you think that this threat is over, 2024 is just 4 years away. Trump will be spewing his hate and fear mongering rhetoric every minute of that coming 4 years.
Don't assume it's only GOP.
BSABSVR?
As a swede, this is so true. Only thing is that most people dont have a house that cheap. It is probably in one of the less populated areas. We pay in average roughly 600 dollars a month in rent or mortages. https://hurvibor.se/boendekostnader/jamfor-boendeformer/
Standard rate to rent an apartment in 2019 is 1150$ https://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/statistik-efter-amne/boende-byggande-och-bebyggelse/bostads-och-hyresuppgifter/avgifter-hyror-for-nybyggda-lagenheter/pong/tabell-och-diagram/hyresratter-i-flerbostadshus-ar-2019-fordelat-efter-region-typ-av-byggherre-och-modell-for-hyressattning/
Tor Nilsson lol
Assuming google isn't lying to me about average income this guy is also about 800 below average income though, so seems like it kind of balances out on that one. Granted that number is based on the immediate google results.
Conditions in Germany (and central EU) are very similar to Sweden.
I've said it before and again now: Healthy, educated people make a healthier economic base. Good infrastructure = better economy. If 150 million Americans each pay $10 into a healthcare fund (national healthcare) a month, then e very month, that's 1,500 million dollars to cover everyone. The math doesn't lie. Also, the OP from Sweden is speaking from his own experience. Others ni Sweden (or Canada, etc.) will tell you that they hate the taxation and have a devastatingly high cost of living.... No -ism is perfect, but if we agree we should all be healthy and educated to *start*? The rest might follow a bit better...
Canadian here. Nobody likes taxes but I wouldn't say I hate them, it goes to fund the country and programs. Certainly will not complain about the healthcare. I spent several weeks in hospital and several months in out patient. Cost me very little (parking, a few over the counter items that were not covered) . Have American friends who would have been bankrupted. In fact the first thing they asked was not so much how I was feeling but how was I going to pay for it.
I grew up on the border. I heard a lot of bitching from Canadians about their taxes. Not every Canadian, etc. Some folks just want all for nothing, y'know?
1.5 billion dollars wouldnt even be enough to pay for the current medicare bill in the USA for a single day.
I'm not from the US and consequently I'm struggling to see why it's eye-opening. It sounds normal and right to me.
I dunno man. There's too strong of a resistance among Americans against the use of taxes to take care of other people. This year is the first time I needed government assistance, and I'm happy I've paid into the system. But I know about people who have been on it all their lives. When asked, they think the money is funded by the government, not people with jobs. Another woman thought her government assistance was from a pool of money from only her parents. Entitlement and other behavioral disorders go both ways on this issue, and it's not as simple as "caring about one another."
I know. I'm American, and I was raised to remember that no, Social Security is not a 401(k) or pension; it's tax-funded. Medicare, ditto. My taxes do not fund JUST ME.... It's a pool of millions and millions of people paying taxes inot ALL this stuff. Which spreads out the risk, reducing costs, and increasing benefits, whether it's healthcare or other programs. *sigh* Americans have this mental tic, from decades of political rhetoric, that anyone benefitting must be a "cheat" who "steals". But they're often using those same benefits, an d see no irony. *headdesk*....
Be careful or there is going to be a huge influx of Americans migrating to Sweden! LOL
Mama Panda what
Sweden doesn't pay a crushing military budget that's equal to the next 10 countries... combined!
Because Sweden doesn't feel the need to "liberate" so many countries around the world?
Perhaps, but who is the first country the world looks to when there is a global or regional crisis? It's easy to sh*t on the US when we see anecdotal examples like this, but when things go south, we are the first country everyone looks to for help. With all respect, it "ain't" Sweden...it "ain't" Germany, and it "ain't" The Netherlands. By and large, we US citizens are kind, generous, and caring. We don't mind helping others in our own country and around the world. But we also get tired of being made out to be "the bad guy" all the time, sometimes from the very people who have their hands out for the good old US dollar. Don't believe everything you see and hear in the news and on social media.
No we only like to sell weapons. Sweden is the biggest weapons seller per capita. Carl Gustaf is one our top products. We sold them to the "Wrong" side in Vietnam and protest against the war. We sold weapons to both Pakistan and India in the 80:s etc etc.
Education is probably better as well. I'm trying to finish my Bachelor's Degree, but won't be able to since I'll lose my financial aid, and I won't be eligible for a loan because I failed a class. It's the last class I have to take to get my Bachelors. I got through the Associate's program and Bachelor's programs while I was homeless, I made the Dean's List most quarters, the quarters I didn't I made the President's List. But because I can't pass one class (a coding class), that's it. No more aid and I can't finish my degree. Feels like I wasted 4 years of my life.
Im a u.s. citizen staying in Sweden and it's not cracked up what it's said to be. First, let's say you have a pre existing medical condition such as heart disease and you need an operation, it could take over a year for you to receive your operation because you are put on a waiting list. And if you want a second opinion for medical attention out of network, you need to pay U.S. healthcare prices for it. My wife and mother inlaw are swedish citizens and this happened to my mother inlaw. You never see the same doctor or "G.P." because healthcare workers in Sweden do not get paid half of what they make in the U.S. so the quality of care is lacking compared to U.S. I know this because I work in healthcare. The houses here are very cheap... On the country side, far from the city were most jobs are. If you want to live close to your job you will be paying for it. Drivers license in Sweden will cost you around $3,000.00 not joking. To fill a ten gallon tank of gas it's around $120.00 here.
The grass is greener on the other side... Untill you jump the fence and see it was just green concrete.
Exactly. Not to mention there is no motivating factor to actually improve things like healthcare and education. They may be "free" but they are always the same mediocre systems they were originally. Unfortunately the entire point of articles like this is to build on the political agenda. Give us all the power and money and trust that we will make better decisions for you than you can. All this stuff sounds great until you realize the real cost. And I am not talking about Dollars...
Nate McClendon haha
I'm Swedish, I live in the rape capital of the world...
I suggest you check out The Congo and PNG. Sweden can't compete with them.
Ok in the free world. But as swedes we will expand and be the best worst country in the world.
This post is missleading. There's no way in hell taxes are 25% in Sweden. I have a friend who pays about 55% in taxes! There are tax brackets, there is a minimum amount that is not taxed, but the base is 32%, and there are 2 more levels of taxation which add 20 and 25 % on top of the 32%, respectively. Considering he earns $3000 per month, that's about 306000 krona per year, assuming this is after tax. The first 32% bracket is for incomes between 20k and 468k p.a. roughly. Considering his net income, his gross must be in the next bracket which is about 52%. Now, I don't know where this post is from or when is it from. That doesn't negate the fact that Seden has all the social benefits but keep in mind that those don't come from just 25% tax. All countries with strong social policies have a high tax rating. It's the same as here in the UK, we get "free" healthcare and socialsecurity but for that there's also a progressive taxation of up to 45% for the highest salaries.
Gogubaci what
Insulin is free in Sweden.
How's that herd immunity working out for you?
Trixie Argh ?
Sweden is less than 3 percent of US population. Sweden is protected by NATO so lower defense spending in cold war till today. Sweden did not have to rebuild after ww2. This fact more than any policy is why sweden enjoys the standard of living it does. Sweden was top supplier of raw material to Germany before and during ww2 Sweden although neutral was biased towards nazis at the least, and overtly helping at the worst.
Ed DiGiulio -
A Book by Aron Flam wrote abuot this. His books were taken by the police and he was charged with nonsens laws. Hardly any Swedish media reported just small notices. Sweden is the only country to pay Germany war fees after the war.
This is how a country should operate. But when at best, 50% of the population is ignorant and afraid of anything they're not used to and susceptible to conspiracy theories perpetuated by those most profiting from the health industry - pharma, hospitals, insurance cos - nothing is going to change. Plus we have legalized bribery in our political system called lobbying. We give our politicians top tier health insurance with the job so they have no incentive to change it. Plus all those billion dollar industries throw untold millions at lawmakers to keep the industry full on rapey to the American people. Stupid people plus a corrupt political system = the people getting screwed and it will never change because there's no incentive for it to change. Politicians only care about their interests and bank accounts.
I had a look at rent and mortgage costs, and this seems way out on all the information I can find about actual living costs in Sweden.
In the link you provided earlier ( https://www.routesnorth.com/planning-your-trip/cost-of-living-in-sweden) you'll find all that info,.Rent: One-bedroom apartment (city centre) 9000–12,000 SEK. One-bedroom apartment (suburbs)7000–10,000 SEK. Student dorm/apartment 3000–6500 SEK. 1000SEK = $118. When you're looking to buy the costs can range from $300 000 to $ 500 000 for an apartment, depending on the location. Also on that site: QUESTION: Is the cost of living in Sweden higher than in the US? ANSWER: Actually, no. Despite its reputation as a pricey country, the cost of living in Sweden is around 10% cheaper than in the US.
Wilvander must love Sweden so much but does he live there . Half the country cant pay 7-10000 SEK for a apartment because the tax is to high. Living costs in sweden are 40-50% for a low to medium income . Food prices is one of the highest in EU. We have the second highest tax in the world.
David Williams good
As an American, I appreciate what the OP is saying, but his story is anecdotal. There are so many generalizations made/implied that we can't draw reasonable conclusions from it. I have traveled in Europe and love and respect most everyone I have met there. But I really get tired of all the America-bashing that so many do, without truly knowing who we are as a people. Despite the train wreck that is our national political system, most of us are good, hard-working, honest, and generous. We want people to be okay, and we like to help those truly in need...and yes, that includes people in other countries and regions. In that regard, we are easily the most generous people in the world, yet we are still reviled, ridiculed, and insulted...non-stop. I guess it comes with the territory, but sometimes, it would be nice just to hear a simple, "thank you", or "Hey, we really like this about the US." Tired of the hatred and misunderstanding.
$ 220 a month for your house seems unrealistic.
So in Sweden you earn good money and have a good healthcare ... but what about the weather, the food, the leisure .. ?
Weather sucks, food is great and so i leisure
Calling BS on this, average rent for a 1 br apartment in Sweden is about $700-900 USD monthly. Yet this post states this guy has a mortgage for $250 a month ? Once you do the same math with a real rent/mortgage nubmer this picture isnt so rosy. Leaving the example above with $343 monthly left over for entertainment etc.
In Sweden we dont live we just exist. Fun noooo
Oh of course not trying to say otherwise , what im questioning is the $250 a month for mortgage on a home. So I can buy a home in Sweden and expect to pay under $400-500 monthly to own it ? That does not seem very realistic but I'm willing to be educated.
Not a good time to boast. Not even an opportune moment for a display of justifiable pride. I wonder if there will be any country that escapes the economic impact of the covid 19 pandemic. Even Sweden has begun imposing the occasional lockdown now due to the rise in cases. During Sweden's first wave of covid 19 when the virus burned through elder care homes, resulting in a hugely disproportionate number of fatalities, no medical care was offered to the victims as far as actual treatment of the disease. No ventilators. Treatment was limited to palliative care. Ample morphine so that the elders didn't suffer too much as they slowly drowned from pulmonary edema, alone and isolated from family. That's a cold, hard fact. I won't say that Sweden was alone in allowing such circumstances to occur, either through gross mismanagement, negligence or cold hearted calculation. I keep it in mind though when I ponder on Sweden's fabled egalitarianism and read an article such as this.
PLK yes
Dude, you need to spend more money on food. You have the budget, go organic - for the environment's sake.
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Katinka Min no
If only we weren't split up into conservatives and liberals, black and white, etc. and we helped each other, we would improve the quality of life and simultaneously improve the economy. Then, we would truly be living the American Dream.
As always - the bottom lines are never pointed out. America is young and its government is stupid and greedy. America is a republic, NOT a democracy. America generally sucks because of how money is managed (terrible education, rampant racism, freedom of the press, and honestly, general freedom)
I don't think that being a republic or democracy has anything to do with how you care for your citizens. Fact is that the American society is a capitalist one where everyone is looking out for themselves with little or no concern for people who are struggling to get by. It seems like the majority is self-centered and the sheer thought that someone might benefit from their tax money is enough to make them go crazy. All the while they are totally fine with Amazon paying no taxes and paying their employees so badly that they are eligible for food stamps. Which basically means that Amazon employees get paid with tax money.
Wilander. Sweden have given Amazon, Google Tax deduction to start up in Sweden. We also import Indians,Pakistani and Mongols to do our dirty work as cleaning, food delivery and so on. Simply paradise.
Your sweeping generalizations are stupid and laughable. You lap up the vomitous rhetoric spewed by the media and social media and gleefully accept and believe whatever you want to believe. In reality, you are clueless. I'm not even going to debate you point for point, because you are too far from reality. What "paradise nation" do you call home?
Thor Are you Left or right ? Hard to say you sound like both. And Thor is englished spelled so you are not a swede anyway. when people start to love a nation like crazy religious nuts you have to say something. Sweden import people to do simple jobs and we pay them slave salaries. Pick fruit, Take away, cleaning etc etc. https://www.svegot.se/2020/01/10/indier-storsta-invandrargruppen/ https://www.expressen.se/kvallsposten/efter-larmet-om-slavkrogar-gaster-har-daligt-samvete/ This is not something to be proud about but as a swede and you grown up with strong unions and strong employment laws and see how it all goes bad you have to protest even if you are left ore right. And Tax deductions for the worlds biggest companies is good for? Finland our sibling neighbor is doing fine, Covid deaths sweden 7007 Finland 408 and im a part Fin so i say Finland.
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And then.. here comes Romania where you pay over 40% of your pay in taxes and you don't get s**t in return.
Dead Pixels lol
When everybody is taken cared for everything else runs smoothy :D
What I just read: "Taxation in Sweden on salaries for an employee involves contributing to three different levels of government: the municipality, the county council, and the central government. Social security contributions are paid to finance the social security system." AND THE TAX RATE EVERYONE PAYS IS BASED ON IMCOME LEVEL: "Sweden has a progressive income tax, the rates for 2018 are as follows (based on yearly incomes): 0% from 0 kronor to 20,008 kronor Circa 32% (ca. 11% county and 20% municipality tax which is the Swedish average): from 20,008 kronor to 468,700 kronor 32% + 20%: from 468,700 kronor to 675,700 kronor 32% + 25%: above 675,700 kronor (prior to 2020)" FYI A KRONOR IS CURRENTLY WORTH US$0.12 OR BP£0.088. [SOURCE: WIKIPEDIA/ YOU CAN READ MORE THERE ABOUT HOW IT WORKS]
Remember that when someone says e.g. you pay 32% if you make over $20,000 then ****you only pay that % for the money over that amount****. Your actual % of money going to taxes will be a weighted average between the lowest tax rung and the highest tax rung that you are a part of.
2020 Swedish tax rates are : From 0 to 490,700SEK , National income tax 0%, Municipal income tax 32% . Over 509,300 SEK National income tax 20%, Municipal income tax 32%. You try to make it look like people are paying 52% of their income on taxes which is not true. You also conveniently leave out the deductions that can be made: In principle, all expenses incurred during the fulfilment of the employment agreement are deductible (e.g. travel expenses, automobile expenses, living allowances on business trips, necessary literature, tools of the trade).Expenses for travel between home and place of work are deductible based on the cheapest means of public transport or, if a private car or a company car is used, on a fixed amount per kilometre. Only the part of the cost exceeding SEK 11,000 is deductible. So all in all the amount of taxmoney they pay is nearly the same as Americans pay. Source: https://taxsummaries.pwc.com/sweden/individual/taxes-on-personal-income
You forgot the employment fee. Not tax he! he!.31% then the VAT on your working hours 25% Look we pay low tax, Number one country in the world VIVA SVEZIA second best to Cuba.
Oskar vanZandt Good response!
There is a theory among some archeologists and historians that the reason the Scandinavian countries are so open to a socially responsible/socially responsive system comes from the Vikings. After returning from a raid (or 'viking' in Norse) when the spoils were divvied up it was according to well-established rules (like the fact that the family of those lost in battle received full portions, boat owners and leaders got a little more, etc), but the goods were not taken until EVERY member of the crew or crews was happy with the division.
" For comparison, the same in the US was 24.3 percent." I call B.S. If you add up ALL of the US taxes (sales tax, gas tax, property tax, ad infinitum) I think you are closer to 35-40%, if not more. And what do you get for that? NOT MUCH.
America has a huge per cent of the population that is on welfare and does not contribute to the society. How does this figure in? I talked once to a Canadian lady who said that Canada does not have this.
Fairy tale. The income tax rate in Sweden is 57.20% currently. Do you think because it's on the internet, it has to be true? I guess if you get your world news from Facebook and don't bother with your own research... If the poster starts off lying about tax rate, is it possible anything else might not be true? Nah, no way. It's what you wanna hear so it's straight up legit, right?
Sounds great! Now, how many illegals do you support with no input from them? How many do you allow to enter the country and live off you every year? Do you allow them to stay indefinitely? Do they get free education? Free medical? Come on! How many MILLIONS of illegals do you give access to your socialized society?
In the U.S., Billionaires and Millionaires work feverishly to make sure the Middle and Working classes think poor people are the problem.
My son went to Sweden after graduation. He never came back. Says he loves the lifestyle, the freedom and most of all, the government being for the citizens.
I rent and my rent is almost 80% of my monthly income. Sigh...
Stop crying Swede. I pay the same taxes for a $1000 less on my pay check than yours. In America we pay for medical insurance we don't get that free or transportation. I pay $1100 for rent, gas and electricity. Gas is cheaper than yours at $3.39 but I pay for it.
Government insurance have 2! Waiting 16 years for proper medical care! With cash I could of been back to work 15 years ago! Friend paid for three surgeries not government insurance back to work in 6 Months a each time and still working! If you don't get hurt or sick government insurance is great! Who supports you! Know leaches in America get free medical, rent, food vouchers! But I'm not a leach! So I don't Deserve free
I beg you to consider that the facts are showing us that privatizing things, letting individuals at small levels take control, and taking the governments hand out of things actually breeds natural competition, which makes things cheaper and also forces individuals to improve to be able to compete. If you really trust a few people in high places to keep our society improving and running over individuals with the ability to freely compete in a capital market, you do not believe in America. People envy Sweden's healthcare until you realize they have made almost no medical advancements in decades because of this system. Also paying 25% taxes sounds great until you realize that the total "pie" is not getting any bigger because you are not progressing or competing. Privatization and competition make a bigger pie which means better and cheaper healthcare, education, everything. Trust small businesses and individuals over corporations and government, I beg you!
I'm not sure why Trump is getting the blame, its fairly much standard for most American politicians to advertise cutting taxes. Even those on the left like Bernie Sanders is reluctant to tell people they need to pay tax to fund healthcare/education, he normally says "The rich will pay". I live in Norway and they have a similar system as the Swede, high taxes and great social infrastructure, but everyone who earns pays for the privilege.
Also, if you can’t work temporarily you get paid enough to live. You won’t get rich but you will get enough to pay rent, bills, food, medicine, healthcare and other necessities. From the state. (In Sweden.) The only thing you’ve got to do is fill in an application and prove that you have no income, no savings etc and a letter from a doctor. If you can’t work permanently you also get money to sustain yourself through a different and a little more complicated process, but still, there’s a system so that nobody has to starve and become homeless. (Of course there’s still homeless people but that for a different reason such as addiction or immigration or people not knowing how to seek help.)
I love Swedeb and the people are some of the nicest on the planet. I have friends there lucky to know them My dad was also from Helsingborg
Sounds very much like Britain
It's kinda funny that people don't know that most European countries have free healthcare, free education and paid parental leave as well as lots of holiday days. I'm Romanian and although we in Eastern Europe are not as economically developed as Scandinavian or Central European countries, everyone is always surprised when they find out that we have pretty much the same system. We don't pay as much in taxes, we have free education (University included), free health care (and if a medical procedure is not free, usually it's at least half of the regular price. Lots of blood tests, scans, medical check ups from any department are free + receits are either free or half off.) Borrowing books from a library costs about 6-7 euro/ year for a book permit but there are lots of libraries from which we can borrow books for free. IRenting an apartment is usually 250 - 320 euro but there are others, fancier too. More info below.
Also, bills cost around 60-65 euro/month, with Internet being as cheap as 10 euro/month (and we have the best Internet speed in Europe). We have 21 - 25 paid holiday days. A pregnant woman can get in maternal leave starting with 7 months pregnant and has the right to stay in leave for the next 3 years, paid. The reason why so many Romanians leave for other countries is that jobs don't pay enough but if you manage to get a well-paid job, especially if you're a doctor, architect, programmer, graphic designer, etc, Romania is a really good and affordable country to live in. I don't know the situation from other countries in detail but most Europeans have the same rights as Swedes.
I hate to break it to you, Ayrin, but there's not such thing as "free". Someone is paying for that. Do you know who? Your government does not make money...it simply takes money from some and redistributes to others. That's fine and all, and what your government chooses to do with *your* money is between itself and its citizens. But don't ever think it's "free". SOMEONE is paying for it all...and it "ain't" the government.
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Well while this sounds prophetic in nature. IT'S TOTALLY MISLEADING. I I just looked up the population of Sweden (2019 10.23 million) the US has over 330 million. And the communist Dems are letting 1000's cross the boarder everyday. All these moronic Nordic countries deride Russia all the time while policing their own Sheeple-Lemmings with the same Communistic era policies.
I love this kind of "truth". You just know this by "checking the internet". Because on the internet there are all the truths you want, especially if you only use facts that agree with you. First of all, you should think about the words in the Bible about how to behave towards your fellow human beings. Then you should learn the difference between socialism and totalitarianism. And before you go to bed, take a look at what Sweden's history looks like. There is no country that Sweden has been at war with more times than Russia. For a long time, Russia was/is the biggest enemy. But that was a long time ago since we battled, I know. The "Communist Democrats" in Sweden have not been at war since the beginning of the 19th century. That is how moronic we are. Since then, "The World's Leading Democracy and Principal Preserver of Peace", USA, has been involved in about 107 different wars. God bless America!: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States
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In light of the current pandemic circumstances in Sweden, where they have actually begun imposing the occasional lockdown, I don't see the relevance of this article. There won't be many countries, if any, whose economies will remain unaffected by the impact of the pandemic. The question I ask, what it all gets down to is if things get really bad, what will the leaders of all these countries ask of the public, in terms of what they should be willing to sacrifice and why. When covid 19 burned through the elder care facilities in Sweden during the first pandemic wave, resulting in a hugely disproportionate number of casualties, there were no ventilators. Treatment was limited to palliative care. An ample supply of morphine was on hand so that as these care home residents drowned from pulmonary edema they didn't suffer too much. That's a cold, hard fact. I keep it in mind to temper any admiration I have for Sweden's fabled egalitarianism.
Still in Europe we pay around 8 USD per gallon fuel,compared to 2,5 USD per gallon in the US.
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Not even close. In Europe prices vary from €0,72 in the Ukraine to €1.43 in Greece.1 gallon = 3.78 liter. In Greece 1 liter of regular fuel is €1,43. 3,78 x 1,43= €5,40 per gallon. Converted to dollar comes out at $6.64. But in Germany liter costs €1,18. 3,78 x 1,18=€4,46 per gallon. Converted to dollar comes out at $5,33.
Good example. Greece. Buy some chocopops
As a New Zealander I’m pissed with our population about how far behind Sweden we are on a bunch of these too. As much as I moan about Jacinda being spineless about a lot of this stuff (she has stratospheric popularity for well documented reasons and could really make more use of it to push for policies that would make things more equal), she’s right that a lot of the population kick up a s**t at the mere suggestion of making stuff less horrendously unequal.
The weird thing is... a significant portion of the people who would most benefit from the changes, are exactly the ones who rally against them.
Of course, it'd be great to have a government that isn't in massive-amounts ofdebt in the first place, so that taxes pay for services, rather than paying off debt, that we didn't authorise, resulting in the need to borrow more money to pay for services, etc etc, never ending debt cycle, conjured up by the bloody banks!
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As an American, I have assured by the GOP that the federal debt only matters when a Democrat is president.
I wonder what it's like for a person that can't work due to disability or an illness.
I think that it must be like a lot countries. In France you get paid with differents subsidies depending of your disability, for example Disabled adult allowance (up to 900euros) + Autonomy allowance (100 euros) + Addional resources allowance (100euros). And depending on their income everybody could have other allowances for housing, free healthcare...
In most European countries if you are disabled and can't work you get a financial support which enables you to live a decent life. If you get sick and can't work, your wages will be paid just as you were working full time. Now let's say you get a really serious illness and you can't work for 6 months. No problem, your wages will be paid. 12 months sick and unable to work? Still no problem. In the Netherlands the employer can't fire you when you're sick unless your illness lasts longer than 24 months. Yes, that's 730 paid sick days.
It is more or less the same in Germany. If you make 3000 Euros/month by 38,5 hours/week you will get 1900+ in the worst tax class (single, no children), if you are married and have children you pay way less. In this 1000 something that goes away is Universal healthcare, unemployment fee, retirement fee and a care fee (Pflegeversicherung) included. I could not live in the American system, tbh, I would probably already be dead with my chronic illness and the unbelievable costs for meds in the USA
the lady talking about how much she gets to keep out of what she works for, maybe if you had a job in congress, you could retire in a few years with 10 million . just saying.
It's not paying taxes that allows this guy to live like a king - it's his housing costs, plain and simple. His mortgage payment costs him about 3.5% of his gross income. For comparrison, in the UK (where we also pay taxes, have free education and healthcare etc) buying your own home will typically cost you 45% of every penny you earn from the day you leave school to the day you retire. If you rent a home that figure goes up to around 60% of everything you'll ever earn. I live in a town where there's no industry, no white or blue collar jobs, in a 70m2 2 room flat - that guys total mortgage payment for a month would only cover my rent for 6 days. We could all have a high quality of living if housing was that cheap.
I live in Poland. Half a year I pay more than half of what I earn in taxes. I only theoretically have health care (try getting a visit...), I have no chance of living to retirement (and if so, despite paying so much my whole life I'd get a tiny pension), I don't have kids (and people who have are the only ones who get benefits), but still I think I'm better off than the Americans. I feel sorry for you.
https://www.routesnorth.com/planning-your-trip/cost-of-living-in-sweden/
To be fair, the US will probably spend the rest of the money they make from taxes on their department of defense.
Please read this post. It is the absolute best explanation as to why Americans don't have healthcare and do not want any social programs of any kind. This is something that has been going for awhile. https://eand.co/americas-problem-is-that-white-people-want-it-to-be-a-failed-state-bac24202f32f
Please read this article, it will explain why America does not have universal healthcare. https://eand.co/americas-problem-is-that-white-people-want-it-to-be-a-failed-state-bac24202f32f
so he makes almost 18.50/hr. try living on minimum wage
In Sweden he's living on the minimum wage.
LO bakom den här karraktären kanske ?
@Peko. There's no legal minimum wage but in every branch of employment, employers and unions have contracts about what an employer is obliged to pay at a minimum. None of those contracts allow employers to pay so little that an employee has to work 2 or 3 jobs to be able to live a decent life.
There is no minimum wage in Sweden.
Well, I have a way better deal than this guy: I get everything for free cuz ima kid and I live with my mom B)
Uh-huh. I live in Finland, right next to Sweden. Currently happening in Sweden: car bombings, the forming of Arab Party (can you guess their agenda?), Jewish people moving away from Sweden because of religious/racial tensions.
Don’t downvote. It’s the Finland-Sweden rivalry.
And one mad man deciding how to handle corona. His solution was not to do anything. But hey, it's mostly old people that die.
Off topic but great to see other Finns here! Torilla tav... eiku
My niece lives in Sweden & during covid, anyone over 50 was denied hospitalization if the had covid. They were sent home to die. Not every country is perfect.
Are you working for Fox News?
Are you working for FHM (google it) Soon to be 7000 deaths in Sweden and yes old people were left to die. read the IVO report. Din svenska måste vara lysande då du alltid försvarar vårt land.
My only question here is. "If I work I contribute to the companies success" Does Sweden not have middle management?
Yes, they have middle management and what is your question?
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Well this is a hoax. Sweden tax is second highest in THE world next to denmark. Nobody pays 25% tax in Sweden. THE Goverment hides taxes in fees . A company in Sweden pays over 30% of the income in fees to the state. We have cheap medical but you have to wait sometime years for treatment. Rest of the figures är just nonsens. Tax in Sweden is 67%. You start earning money i august. IF you are self employd you pay moore and get less. Because in Sweden busnisses are marked as evil. I live in Sweden. 25% tax 😂😂😂
Seems to me that you really need a decent accountant to help you with your taxes, because you really don't know s**t about taxes yourself.
IF you can find anyone in Sweden pay 25% tax you probobly fund a millioner or an ex politician. Hollander eat som chocho pops and Keep up selling mini Beers for the price of 5 gilders .
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They did the math wrong
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When Sweden takes in a proportional amount of unskilled immigrants as America does, if Sweden becomes as diverse as America and a hub of research and development of science and medicine, then let's revisit the comparison of Sweden vs. America. Until then, Sweden is only marginally prosperous because other nations are taking the brunt of the responsibility of first world countries to help the less fortunate.
lol. You think the US is the only country in the world taking responsibility? 85% of the worlds refugees are hosted in developing nations. Yemen, Thailand, Syria, Gaza, Turkey , Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey and Germany all took over 1m refugees in 2019. The US took 341,715 in 2019, compared with Sweden who took 253,787 - pretty signicant responsibility on Sweden's part given its comparative size and population compared to America. You want to blame all America's problems on refugees? Get your facts right and try again.
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do sweden people speak american? CAUSE IM GOIN TO LIVE IN SWEDEN ONCE I MOVE IN 8 YEARS
Try speaking English. Also, if you move to a foreign country, it's common courtesy to learn their language.
Except for some certain states in USA, no one else around the world speaks american.
Storm Anne yes
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Wow, seems like Swedes have no idea what life is actually like in the US. Must only watch all the propaganda that the MSM puts out. Let me see if I can clear some s**t up. Since I pay my insurance, I too won't go bankrupt if I need to go to the hospital. Since my insurance is market-based, I have access to one of the best, if not the best, healthcare systems in the world. By the way, that's the OECD saying that, not me. And yes, they do take "accessibility" into account. By definition, the library across tyhe street, in central Texas, also does not charge a fee to check out a book. That's how libraries work. Also, if they don;t happen to have what I'm looking for, they belong to a network of libraries in the Austin area, and they will get it for me. Also free of charge. Once again, you're not special for having a library. Schools in the US are also free. While not every student qualifies for a free lunch, most do. We too used to have pretty decent lunches.
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Then, Michelle Obama decided she was gonna "fix" it. We're still sorting out her incompetent tomfuckery. The amount you pay on utilities and food is exceedingly comparable to what an individual would pay in the US. The same for gasoline and auto insurance. The 30 days vacation a year is an employment benefit that those of us that are worth it also has. Since people that work retail and fast food are basically on a "working vacation" already, we don't feel the need to give them more time off.
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Yet, USA remains the most desirous place to live
Actually, according to Forbes, it's Canada. Then Japan, followed by Spain. Apparently only the Norwegians and Russia (go figure) are interested in moving to the US.
dev mehta easy
Not at all, you guys are brainwashed
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Let me tell you about David. David lived in Sweden. He had an accident. He went to the "clinic" and he saw only, a physician's assistant. No x-ray, and the PA said "broken arm" and put it in a cast. Except it WASN'T a broken arm, it was a broken wrist. Pain was intense, went back to PA who redid the cast EIGHT WEEKS LATER, pain so intense the PA decided to give him TWO pain killers. Finally agreed, after three more weeks that David could see a REAL doctor. Doctor ordered an XRay and FOUR WEEKS LATER, David got XRay. Voila, a broken wrist that had already set and David had to have surgery, scheduled for SIX MONTHS LATER. Earliest he could get in. In the mean time, David was living with a corneal problem, PA gave him drops. There was something really wrong. David started going blind. Finally got to see an opthamologist. That Doctor said "uh oh, you need surgery." So, fortunately, that could be scheduled the same time David was having his wrist fixed. IT was all done. Wr
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My mom had to have a pacemaker put in, she joined a support group online for people all over the world who have pacemakers. After reading the stories from people in other Countries, she is glad she lives in the US, where she was able to get the procedure done fairly quickly but also done effectively.
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Wrist broken, fixed. Eye, not so well. After surgery it got worse. More surgery scheduled. He told me he would write and let me know what happens. He never did. David died. Still haven't been able to find out what happened and his folks, who live in Canada only were told he died and sent him his cremains. They had a memorial service for him. I am NOT impressed with government bureaucrat medicine. And I know this will get me a ton of down votes because people will say "Oh i have only had great experiences and IT IS FREE." And it is worth EXACTLY WHAT YOU PAID FOR IT.
This is an unattributed anecdote, that simply demonstrates that there are imperfections in any system. I live in a country with socialized health care (and no, it's not "free"; we pay for it with our taxes). Anyway, here's my anecdote. About two years ago, I had a severe heart arrhythmia, and had to go to the hospital. I got into the emergency room within a few minutes of arriving. Several hours of monitoring and drugs later, I was admitted for two days. I got out, went home, and a day later, had my blood pressure bottom out, and I passed out. I was taken to the hospital in an ambulance, spent several more hours in the hospital, and was released again. My total bill for all of this was $45, for the ambulance.
Dave Glenn lol
The U.S. spends three times as much on health care as Canada, where I'm from, does, and has poorer health outcomes. Taking, for instance, two basic health indicators for a population--life expectancy and infant mortality--the average life expectancy is shorter in the U.S. (78.5, vs 82.5 in Canada, per data from the World Bank; the infant mortality rate in the U.S. is 5.8, vs 4.5 in Canada). No system is perfect. However, few, if any, of those in the western world are as imperfect as that of the U.S.
Here is my anecdote : I suffer from severe depression, two years ago I went to the ER, they diagnosed the depression in one under half an hour (after a staggering waiting time of maybe one hour), a nurse brought me to the mental health ward right after where I stayed six weeks. I had medications, psychotherapy, ergotherapy, group discussion, relaxation, physical therapy, music therapy... I paid 10€ per day. I was on sick leave for almost a year and was paid by my insurance. Another one: m'y grandfather had pancreatic cancer. It was diagnosed at stage 4. He was admitted immediately. Got the surgery for central line in a few days. Got all the treatment they were able to give him, including palliative care. He died because the cancer was too advanced, not because the treatment was too expensive. You are criminally stupid. I wish you will understand one day.
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Sweden does not pay its fair share for the defense of Europe... Russian tanks will someday roll down your main street in your town. Then you will no doubt blame it all on the Americans.
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So what I am seeing is that Sweden is MORE capitalist than America. America has too many expensive socialist style programs (student loans, medical, education). If America could manage a better budget and stopped subsidizing medical expenses (which lead to skyrocketing costs), things would be better.
You're so wrong. America has made everything capitalist. That's why you pay a shedload of money for your education and healthcare. Sweden has chosen to keep essential things in society affordable and accessible and prevent greedy people to profit from them by law. All the people in the country work and pay into one communal system which cares for all of them from the cradle to the grave, without hindering them to live the life they want. And to make it worse for you, most European countries have a very similar system. That's why the people living in those countries score highest in happiness. https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-happiest-people-in-the-world.html or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Happiness_Report.
Are you seriously citing a subjective survey as evidence to your economic stance? This is the same style of survey that had Cuba ranking quite high in medical care... we all think where we live is great when you don't know anything better.
NorthKorea is the paradise next to Sweden. This guy is nuts. Sweden. most people died of covid in the north together. Thats Denmark,Finland and Iceland. Most Rapes Most murders Most bombings. Most Nazis. Most Isis. one out of five teenagers have been a victim of crime last year. Wilvander if you live in Sweden please tell me were you live because its must be a hidden paradise in this country.
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I love living in America. I get to pursue my dreams, we have some of the best of the best of everything. I know that there are lots of people that don't get to live like I do and I know that we need to change. Hopefully, the new administration coming in will take steps to make things better for all Americans and not just the 1%. I am sad about out past and hopeful for our future. As a nation, we have got to start taking care of our people better.
Do you think people in Sweden or Canada don't get to pursue their dreams or have the best of everything? There's nothing wrong with loving America, but don't tell yourself that you have it better than the rest of us. You don't.
Especially when you see where the US ranks in terms of civil liberties in comparison to the rest of the world.
Yep, he didn't think this through. I'm from Finland and the almost cost free education system we have from 1st grade all the way to university and beyond allows us to pursue anything in life, almost independent of the wealth of our parents. Do be precise, only grades below highschool are entirely free of charge and almost everything from books to pencils is provided for you. In high school or vocational school the education itself is free but the tools and books cost something. However, if your parents are poor, you will be eligible for small student allowance and in worst case the social service will cover the costs. In university or equivalent higher level of education the education is free meaning there are no tuition fees but we have to pay roughly 40€/year for student medical services starting from coming year and some extra for the school administration. The total amount in a year for these obligatory payments is less than 200€/year. We have to buy text books and basic tools
ourselves including also an often necessary laptop/computer and those of course cost quite a bit but still significantly less than tuition fees. As a student from bachelor (or equivalent) to the end of master's degree (or equivalent) you are eligible for student allowance which is about 225€/month. Additionally, the state will warrant your student loan and help with your living expenses. After the master's degree you are not eligible for those (allowance, student loan, student healthcare) but most often you are then working for some university and getting payed for your research.
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This post is so incorrect. A quick search will show that the tax rates are significantly higher.
I'm sure that you'll be sticking to the "In socialist countries you pay 85% of your income on taxes" myth that you've heard all your life. Here's a source to the real tax rates in Sweden: http://world.tax-rates.org/sweden/income-tax And there are loads more sites that will debunk that lie.
Ok. Can you please send me my 42% tax i didnt pay every month back to me. It would be swell.
Nope
John Stroh ?
Universal healthcare is great for capitalism. Universal daycare is great of capitalism. Universal college education is great for capitalism. A minimum wage that someone can live off of is great for capitalism. All of the above improves the economy and well being of employees and will lead to higher profits for companies. Come on USA, give it a try!
We would, if people didn’t think socialism and communism were one in the same. Many of us support socialism. But many of us don’t. And so if Biden even shows support for socialism, or passes any law remotely socialist, there will be outcry among many, maybe even among those who voted for him. Maybe someday we could be relatively socialist. But only if it’s done right, and very gradually. Things are too tense right now for there to be a sudden change.
And yet those people that decry socialism don't realize social security, medicare, public schools, police departments, fire departments, and roads are all a form of socialism. Do you think they'd give up any of that?
Americans don't know the difference between Democratic Socialism and Socialism. The education system and propaganda are set up to make sure they don't learn
Read your Marx, of course socialism and communism are NOT the same. But to reach communism a society has to go through socialism.....
J. Zingler what
People tend to support socialism when they benefit from it, free education, healthcare, welfare etc, but those same people are normally reluctant to support it when they have to pay for it.
John Smith Good response!
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I'd add - universal income is great for capitalism, too. Allows people to work on some things that in our society today they cannot if they have to make a living - like studying old Norse, or french poetry, or doing arts, creative writing etc etc. It is good for a society to have people who do that and they improve education of others and inspire society overall and foster more creativity - which is good for capitalism!
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Funny how lower middle class nitwits shill for big corporations to have huge profits. Hilarious. Dupe.
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Google paid for all online work from home from $ 16,000 to $ 32,000 a month. The younger brother was out of work for three months and a month ago her check was $ 32475, working at home for 4 hours a day, and earning could be even bigger…. So I started…………………..www.works44.com
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Great, now we have the opinion of a barista that still lives with his parents. Have a seat
Okay Boomer, how about you sit this one out. Stock market is at 30,000 and people are going hungry in this country. Trickledown economics is an abject failure. We need to run the economy in a better way.
My health insurance costs more per month than his total income taxes.
Miss Cellania lol
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And I bet you voted for Obama.
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geez what s**t insurance do you have??? My wife and I pay a total of 285 per month for United Healthcare... decent coverage.
What's hilarious is that you think that's a reasonable amount to pay.
AlphaPuck easy
The US Founding Fathers were rich, white men, most of them slaveowners. The system they created functions exactly as they intended.
Right you are, and the Constitution functions very well. It is pure genius. Show me where the Founding Fathers had ANYTHING to do with taxes, cost of insurance, home ownership, price of gas, health insurance, etc. You can't because they did not. Hell, income tax was over a century away when it was written. But, "the man is keepin' you down!" Ninja, please.
Thank you!
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Good Life Gifts yes
... america is weird ( i am american)
I really do not understand how Americans still think or are made to think this is called Socialism. Educate yourself. In the Netherlands we call it a social democracy. Also, when voting, way more options than just republican or democrate.
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So you're okay with handing away your rights, power, money, and decision making to a few people in high places but just not completely? Socialism is the first step of Communism.
"Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose." We here in the US have defended rights, power, money, and decision making until we have none left: eminent domain, jobs gamed to break people, stagnant wages, skyrocketing healthcare, politics disrupting medicine. Our degraded university system has adjuncts teach for an under-living wage while professors focus on publish-or-perish accompanied by a glut of non-reproducible studies. Our high school level students aren't taught to survive in the real world, like how to pay taxes. Our tech schools don't have a good correlation to our industrial needs. Our politics are polarizing and rigged to favor the wealthy. Our for-profit prisons house more prisoners per million people than any other nation, not including parole and house arrest. But I got a pistol. Not like I can stand against the US Army. But if some dumb kid breaks in, bang bang. How much worse can communism possibly be?
GOD I wish America worked like that
It's worth noting that the US wastes so much money on warfare that we can't Promote the General Welfare. Bullets, Beans, and Band Aids. The US only spends taxes on the first one. That's why we don't have enough of the second two.
The USA currently spends about 1.3 trillion on medicare, 1.1 trillion on social security and just over 700 billion on defense. Even if you disbanded the entire military tomorrow that 700 billion would not be close to paying for universal healthcare.
Steven Cook no
GOP has robbed USA and most Americans are too blind and deaf to care.
Not most. Nowhere near most. Just look at the last election.
To be fair: Over 70 millions Americans voted for Trump. Which means that over 70 million Americans are totally fine with an incompetent administration that would do anything to favor the rich at the cost of even a remote chance for poor people to live a decent life. And if you think that this threat is over, 2024 is just 4 years away. Trump will be spewing his hate and fear mongering rhetoric every minute of that coming 4 years.
Don't assume it's only GOP.
BSABSVR?
As a swede, this is so true. Only thing is that most people dont have a house that cheap. It is probably in one of the less populated areas. We pay in average roughly 600 dollars a month in rent or mortages. https://hurvibor.se/boendekostnader/jamfor-boendeformer/
Standard rate to rent an apartment in 2019 is 1150$ https://www.scb.se/hitta-statistik/statistik-efter-amne/boende-byggande-och-bebyggelse/bostads-och-hyresuppgifter/avgifter-hyror-for-nybyggda-lagenheter/pong/tabell-och-diagram/hyresratter-i-flerbostadshus-ar-2019-fordelat-efter-region-typ-av-byggherre-och-modell-for-hyressattning/
Tor Nilsson lol
Assuming google isn't lying to me about average income this guy is also about 800 below average income though, so seems like it kind of balances out on that one. Granted that number is based on the immediate google results.
Conditions in Germany (and central EU) are very similar to Sweden.
I've said it before and again now: Healthy, educated people make a healthier economic base. Good infrastructure = better economy. If 150 million Americans each pay $10 into a healthcare fund (national healthcare) a month, then e very month, that's 1,500 million dollars to cover everyone. The math doesn't lie. Also, the OP from Sweden is speaking from his own experience. Others ni Sweden (or Canada, etc.) will tell you that they hate the taxation and have a devastatingly high cost of living.... No -ism is perfect, but if we agree we should all be healthy and educated to *start*? The rest might follow a bit better...
Canadian here. Nobody likes taxes but I wouldn't say I hate them, it goes to fund the country and programs. Certainly will not complain about the healthcare. I spent several weeks in hospital and several months in out patient. Cost me very little (parking, a few over the counter items that were not covered) . Have American friends who would have been bankrupted. In fact the first thing they asked was not so much how I was feeling but how was I going to pay for it.
I grew up on the border. I heard a lot of bitching from Canadians about their taxes. Not every Canadian, etc. Some folks just want all for nothing, y'know?
1.5 billion dollars wouldnt even be enough to pay for the current medicare bill in the USA for a single day.
I'm not from the US and consequently I'm struggling to see why it's eye-opening. It sounds normal and right to me.
I dunno man. There's too strong of a resistance among Americans against the use of taxes to take care of other people. This year is the first time I needed government assistance, and I'm happy I've paid into the system. But I know about people who have been on it all their lives. When asked, they think the money is funded by the government, not people with jobs. Another woman thought her government assistance was from a pool of money from only her parents. Entitlement and other behavioral disorders go both ways on this issue, and it's not as simple as "caring about one another."