Mom Feels 13YO Taking Care Of Hygiene “Down There” Is Scandalous, Husband Doesn’t Get The Fuss
Interview With ExpertPuberty is a time of big physical and emotional changes that can be difficult for the kids going through it, as well as their parents. Although moms and dads may not always have the right answer for their growing child’s questions, both of them should try to be on the same page, at least.
Unfortunately, in this situation, a couple was at odds about whether they should let their teen groom himself down there. Their opposing views opened up a whole Pandora’s box of questions for them about their individual styles of parenting.
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Every parent wants their child to come to them for support and advice, but sometimes they might not know how best to help them out
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When the poster’s teen son asked him if he could shave “down there, ” he discussed the issue in depth with him and then agreed to get him a trimmer
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When the man’s wife found out, she got mad that she hadn’t been involved in the decision-making and said that he was too young to be thinking about such things
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The poster and his wife realized that they have opposing views about grooming, and that as she is more conservative, she feels her son is growing up “too fast”
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The poster justified his decision by saying that he wanted their son to feel comfortable opening up about such topics, but his wife simply ignored his explanations
Parenting isn’t easy. It’s full of tough decisions like this where moms and dads need to figure out the best way to support their growing kids. In this case, the mom couldn’t get on board with her husband’s decision because she felt that her 13-year-old was too young to be concerned about shaving his privates. Her worry was, of course, justified, but it still complicated the situation.
That’s why Bored Panda reached out to Holly-ann Martin for advice. She is a renowned expert with over 35 years of experience in child abuse prevention education. She is the founder and managing director of Safe4Kids, a company that focuses on educating children and adults on how to prevent child abuse. She has also written five children’s books and two parents’ guides.
Holly-ann said: “He’s not too young to start caring about hygiene or how he feels in his body. As we say in the Safe4Kids program, ‘We all have the right to feel safe all of the time.’ That includes feeling safe in our own skin.”
“Being able to ask about something as personal as grooming is a testament to the safe environment [his parents] helped foster. Let’s not risk silencing that by shaming or invalidating the question,” she added.
It’s clear that the mother’s own worries clouded her judgment about the situation. She felt that her son was too young to be thinking about such things and that by giving him a trimmer, her husband had encouraged adult behavior. Both parents couldn’t seem to figure out a compromise.
Holly-ann explained that “disagreements are normal and often rooted in different upbringings, experiences, and personal triggers, but the key is to model respectful problem-solving. When parents are at odds, especially in front of children, it creates shame, confusion, and sometimes fear. Children need to see adults working through conflict calmly and respectfully.”
“Something many parents experience is when childhood feels like it’s disappearing too fast, but personal grooming is about body autonomy, which is something we want all young people to understand. At 13, children are exploring their identity, personal preferences, and body changes. This is entirely appropriate developmentally,” she shared.
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When the couple realized that they couldn’t seem to get on the same page about the hair trimming decision, they began questioning each other’s stance on other important parenting issues. The conversation wasn’t smooth and actually left the woman feeling triggered and anxious.
Holly-ann shared some practical tips for parents to deal with such conflicts. She said that they should “agree to pause and reflect rather than react immediately. Discuss privately and avoid undermining each other in front of the child.”
She also added that parents should “focus on shared goals, and consider professional support if the disagreement is deep-rooted. This is not about who’s ‘right’ but about parenting as a team and honoring each other’s concerns.”
The disagreement between the OP and his wife created a lot of tension, which their son picked up on as well. It might have made him regret his decision to open up and created a sense of shame around the topic of personal hygiene.
That’s why Holly-ann said that parents should “reinforce that [the kids] are not in trouble and that curiosity is normal.” She also mentioned that “at Safe4Kids, we stress that children need the correct language and understanding about public vs. private, safe vs. unsafe, and feelings around their bodies. Puberty is a prime opportunity to teach that body ownership and safety go hand-in-hand.”
Parents don’t always have to agree on every single issue, but they still need to discuss it with each other and find a way to compromise. Hopefully, the poster and his wife get on the same page so that they can support their son through this new stage of life.
What are your thoughts on this story, and how would you have handled such a situation?
People sided with the dad and shared that his wife’s extreme reaction might push their son further away
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I had my first Gyno appt at 13 because my sister got pregnant. No one else in the room and I didn't know what was happening (Christian upbringing). No real info about periods or sexuality. It is not right for kids to figure it out for themselves.
Or to make them tunnel troughs hell of a lot of books. Mommy sounds like she also has a chip on the TV and computer.
Load More Replies...Glad OP's son felt comfortable enough to discuss it with him. Too bad about OP's wife, however.
Ah. Those sort of privates. The capital P confused me for a second, I thought they meant "Privates" as in army. My bad!
She sounds jealous that the son didn't come to her and is growing up and starting to need her less. The Dad sounds like a great guy!
Moms like this give me the creeps. You have no business telling a teenager what he or she can do with their body hair.
Of course a boy comes to his dad for this. If it was a daughter asking her mother about the same thing, no one would consider it ok to ask dad first because overwise he'd feel undermined. It's a personal choice to the teen. Nta
"Encouraging adult behavior"... Lady, if he's got a full bush, he's BECOMING an adult. Cut the apron strings already.
When a man and his son are having a private discussion about things that affect men, the mom needs to stay out of it. The same for when a mother is giving a daughter advice about intimate female issues - dad should not be there giving his opinion.
As long as there's no medical objection, let him do what he wants. There's every chance it's just something to try, but I'd it helps him feel more secure in his body, why stop him? Not your place as a parent to dictate public hair prederence.
If "modern parenting gone too far" is an exact quote, that's a pretty major red flag. Her refusal to consider any sort of outside opinion might be a bigger one. (this might be me reading too much BP but I'm also casting the side eye at her for also not listening to her own sister telling her she's overreacting).
In what universe does she think your teenage SON would want to discuss manscaping with his Mother?? Ewwww, no. She needs to back off because she’s going to embarrass Him & alienate him if she doesn’t butt out. He’s a young man not a child , it’s his body & it’s none of her business.
While I disagree with the wife, I can understand that there are valid arguments on either side of this, but the question I ask myself when someone asks me something personal or perhaps uncomfortable, is 'do I want this person to feel comfortable approaching me with something like this in the future?' There are people for whom that answer is no, but parents should always be answering yes to that. The mother's reaction is already making this boy uncomfortable, whereas the father's reaction made it clear his son could talk to him about these things. Dad built trust, mum is threatening, breaking, or eroding trust
On the mothers side I’d say so yes lol , prudish pathetic n before long wifey will be on here , moaning why won’t my son talk to me anymore 🤦♀️n we all be like yeah I wonder 🙄🙄😂
Load More Replies...Given he's a 13yo boy, chances are it has way more to do with s*x/peer pressure than hygiene (coming from a 00's teenager who lived through the 'unless you're hairless, you're gross' era). That said, you handled it like a pro and said all the right things. Your wife needs to chill, even if it IS about s*x, or she'll only drive away any honesty your son has with you.
I really don’t see how it needs to involve both parents? Generally for more personal stuff, girls will talk to their mums and boys to their dads, because you have the same “parts” so to speak. It’s body hair, who cares. My daughter wanted to shave her legs at 11 so I let her, as I know what it was like to be hairy and not allowed to shave.
She sounds like a nut job. I feel bad for the kid and the husband. Her son certainly won't ever share anything with her now. The husband should make her read all these responses and go to therapy. That's not normal behavior.
That wife is a f*****g idiot, and now she's treating her son coldly wow what a s**t parent. It's no wonder the sun didn't want to come talk to her she's f*****g unhinged
Oh oh I can actually weigh in on this!! I have an almost 13 year old (in like a week) who has hit puberty and all that mess. I’ve ALWAYS (I’m mom btw if it matters) told him he can come to me about ANYTHING. Even if it’s something he feels might be weird, and he’s usually done that. I think it helps that I have worked in healthcare his entire life too so he figured maybe I’d be the best to come to. He plays basketball and football and has mentioned being itchy “down there” for a bit to which I told him that it could be the hair or if it’s red and really itchy let me know because it could be a fungal or yeast and we’d have to get cream or powder to take care of it. He still came to me about a week or so later (because I’d mentioned it before) that if the hair was making him itch he could trim. Helps keep smell down, helps sweat less. All that. He did come and ask me how to do it and I gave him his own electric razor and gave him the run down. So far so good and not many complaints 🤷🏼
I also did clarify he may want to ask dad or step dad the “specifics” because I don’t have the experience with the hardware (I do, as in healthcare we would occassionally shave bedbound patients there to help with cleanup if they preferred it, but I wasnt going to weird him out with that info) or told him I’m sure he could search up a tutorial online, with which could help find if he wanted if he didn’t want to wait until he could talk to dad or step dad about it .
Load More Replies...Ur wife is being an absolute a*****e here. If she is a true parent and really loves her son heartfully then she will consider his comfort, feelings and emotions above her stupidity and obsessiveness. He is not a toy for her to control, he is almost a teenager whose boundaries should be respected from now on. We adults on the name of adulthood keep saying things like kids should respect us etc… but often forget that we will be respected when we behave like one. She probably thinks she owns him… talking behind her back? Is she crazy? Its an aspect where she should respectfully leave it to ONLY the males to discuss and step out of it. Going forward, u better hide such male specific aspects from her and discuss with him in private. She anyway doesn’t need to know as frankly, its none of her business. Or else there is a danger that he will stop coming to u also and sought to someone else. A parent should always be approachable for kids… or else that parent has totally failed as a parent.
I'd like to state to the 2% that said strict rules with no child input - being so rigid is what's going to make your kid go NC in a few years. Seriously, as long as the kid is showering properly and frequently enough, who cares if they trim or shave?? OP sounds like a great parent, the wife sounds like she should be in Victorian times or something.
Oh NTA. She is the A though, this is about her problem accepting her son is growing up. Sad she’s causing issues in the household because of this. Maybe give her some time to think and then try support her through it. Because it’s going to happen, and she can’t be driving wedges between her relationships like this.
At 13 his body is beginning to undergo some major changes. Better for him to feel he is being 'heard,' than to struggle speaking to a mum who obviously has her own issues.
To a point I understand the mom in the sense that it is difficult to see your baby growing up. My son is 30 with his new family . Some times i still see my kids as little and want to fix things for them but at the end of the day they are adults I have to turn momma bear off and let them handle their own issues. However , I agree with the father this definitly is a father son topic. I never had to deal with puberty as a male and the physical and mental changes a male goes through. The husband is more of an expert on that.
Funny thing is, if the child were a girl, the mom probably would be pushing her to shave her legs, armpits, and style up.
I know this is probably the wrong thing to say in regards to this, but every time I see AH I instantly read a*s hat XD
This is absolutely insane and an appalling insight into todays society. What the hell are kids doing shaving or styling pubïc hair? He's 13, he's only just grown it!! Some of his mates won't have any yet. These are bloody absurd societal behaviours. I'm glad he'd a parent he could approach but yikes he's still a bloody bairn. I wasn't allowed to even shave my legs before 16. We need kids to understand contraception, consent, not how to style pubíc hair 🤷🏻♀️
Also how do you know he’s only just grown it ! Some kids get hair at 9 ffs
Load More Replies...First, who tf wants to shave it clean? Nobody wants to bed a baby. Also at 13 deal with it. You don't have much.
WTF?? I really hope you never have kids. You'll be a nightmare parent. And the kid didn't want to shave it all off you idiot. He wanted to trim it. Check your reading comprehension and your sanity. Different people grow different amounts of hair. Who are you to tell someone else what to do with their own body? Assh@t.
Load More Replies...I had my first Gyno appt at 13 because my sister got pregnant. No one else in the room and I didn't know what was happening (Christian upbringing). No real info about periods or sexuality. It is not right for kids to figure it out for themselves.
Or to make them tunnel troughs hell of a lot of books. Mommy sounds like she also has a chip on the TV and computer.
Load More Replies...Glad OP's son felt comfortable enough to discuss it with him. Too bad about OP's wife, however.
Ah. Those sort of privates. The capital P confused me for a second, I thought they meant "Privates" as in army. My bad!
She sounds jealous that the son didn't come to her and is growing up and starting to need her less. The Dad sounds like a great guy!
Moms like this give me the creeps. You have no business telling a teenager what he or she can do with their body hair.
Of course a boy comes to his dad for this. If it was a daughter asking her mother about the same thing, no one would consider it ok to ask dad first because overwise he'd feel undermined. It's a personal choice to the teen. Nta
"Encouraging adult behavior"... Lady, if he's got a full bush, he's BECOMING an adult. Cut the apron strings already.
When a man and his son are having a private discussion about things that affect men, the mom needs to stay out of it. The same for when a mother is giving a daughter advice about intimate female issues - dad should not be there giving his opinion.
As long as there's no medical objection, let him do what he wants. There's every chance it's just something to try, but I'd it helps him feel more secure in his body, why stop him? Not your place as a parent to dictate public hair prederence.
If "modern parenting gone too far" is an exact quote, that's a pretty major red flag. Her refusal to consider any sort of outside opinion might be a bigger one. (this might be me reading too much BP but I'm also casting the side eye at her for also not listening to her own sister telling her she's overreacting).
In what universe does she think your teenage SON would want to discuss manscaping with his Mother?? Ewwww, no. She needs to back off because she’s going to embarrass Him & alienate him if she doesn’t butt out. He’s a young man not a child , it’s his body & it’s none of her business.
While I disagree with the wife, I can understand that there are valid arguments on either side of this, but the question I ask myself when someone asks me something personal or perhaps uncomfortable, is 'do I want this person to feel comfortable approaching me with something like this in the future?' There are people for whom that answer is no, but parents should always be answering yes to that. The mother's reaction is already making this boy uncomfortable, whereas the father's reaction made it clear his son could talk to him about these things. Dad built trust, mum is threatening, breaking, or eroding trust
On the mothers side I’d say so yes lol , prudish pathetic n before long wifey will be on here , moaning why won’t my son talk to me anymore 🤦♀️n we all be like yeah I wonder 🙄🙄😂
Load More Replies...Given he's a 13yo boy, chances are it has way more to do with s*x/peer pressure than hygiene (coming from a 00's teenager who lived through the 'unless you're hairless, you're gross' era). That said, you handled it like a pro and said all the right things. Your wife needs to chill, even if it IS about s*x, or she'll only drive away any honesty your son has with you.
I really don’t see how it needs to involve both parents? Generally for more personal stuff, girls will talk to their mums and boys to their dads, because you have the same “parts” so to speak. It’s body hair, who cares. My daughter wanted to shave her legs at 11 so I let her, as I know what it was like to be hairy and not allowed to shave.
She sounds like a nut job. I feel bad for the kid and the husband. Her son certainly won't ever share anything with her now. The husband should make her read all these responses and go to therapy. That's not normal behavior.
That wife is a f*****g idiot, and now she's treating her son coldly wow what a s**t parent. It's no wonder the sun didn't want to come talk to her she's f*****g unhinged
Oh oh I can actually weigh in on this!! I have an almost 13 year old (in like a week) who has hit puberty and all that mess. I’ve ALWAYS (I’m mom btw if it matters) told him he can come to me about ANYTHING. Even if it’s something he feels might be weird, and he’s usually done that. I think it helps that I have worked in healthcare his entire life too so he figured maybe I’d be the best to come to. He plays basketball and football and has mentioned being itchy “down there” for a bit to which I told him that it could be the hair or if it’s red and really itchy let me know because it could be a fungal or yeast and we’d have to get cream or powder to take care of it. He still came to me about a week or so later (because I’d mentioned it before) that if the hair was making him itch he could trim. Helps keep smell down, helps sweat less. All that. He did come and ask me how to do it and I gave him his own electric razor and gave him the run down. So far so good and not many complaints 🤷🏼
I also did clarify he may want to ask dad or step dad the “specifics” because I don’t have the experience with the hardware (I do, as in healthcare we would occassionally shave bedbound patients there to help with cleanup if they preferred it, but I wasnt going to weird him out with that info) or told him I’m sure he could search up a tutorial online, with which could help find if he wanted if he didn’t want to wait until he could talk to dad or step dad about it .
Load More Replies...Ur wife is being an absolute a*****e here. If she is a true parent and really loves her son heartfully then she will consider his comfort, feelings and emotions above her stupidity and obsessiveness. He is not a toy for her to control, he is almost a teenager whose boundaries should be respected from now on. We adults on the name of adulthood keep saying things like kids should respect us etc… but often forget that we will be respected when we behave like one. She probably thinks she owns him… talking behind her back? Is she crazy? Its an aspect where she should respectfully leave it to ONLY the males to discuss and step out of it. Going forward, u better hide such male specific aspects from her and discuss with him in private. She anyway doesn’t need to know as frankly, its none of her business. Or else there is a danger that he will stop coming to u also and sought to someone else. A parent should always be approachable for kids… or else that parent has totally failed as a parent.
I'd like to state to the 2% that said strict rules with no child input - being so rigid is what's going to make your kid go NC in a few years. Seriously, as long as the kid is showering properly and frequently enough, who cares if they trim or shave?? OP sounds like a great parent, the wife sounds like she should be in Victorian times or something.
Oh NTA. She is the A though, this is about her problem accepting her son is growing up. Sad she’s causing issues in the household because of this. Maybe give her some time to think and then try support her through it. Because it’s going to happen, and she can’t be driving wedges between her relationships like this.
At 13 his body is beginning to undergo some major changes. Better for him to feel he is being 'heard,' than to struggle speaking to a mum who obviously has her own issues.
To a point I understand the mom in the sense that it is difficult to see your baby growing up. My son is 30 with his new family . Some times i still see my kids as little and want to fix things for them but at the end of the day they are adults I have to turn momma bear off and let them handle their own issues. However , I agree with the father this definitly is a father son topic. I never had to deal with puberty as a male and the physical and mental changes a male goes through. The husband is more of an expert on that.
Funny thing is, if the child were a girl, the mom probably would be pushing her to shave her legs, armpits, and style up.
I know this is probably the wrong thing to say in regards to this, but every time I see AH I instantly read a*s hat XD
This is absolutely insane and an appalling insight into todays society. What the hell are kids doing shaving or styling pubïc hair? He's 13, he's only just grown it!! Some of his mates won't have any yet. These are bloody absurd societal behaviours. I'm glad he'd a parent he could approach but yikes he's still a bloody bairn. I wasn't allowed to even shave my legs before 16. We need kids to understand contraception, consent, not how to style pubíc hair 🤷🏻♀️
Also how do you know he’s only just grown it ! Some kids get hair at 9 ffs
Load More Replies...First, who tf wants to shave it clean? Nobody wants to bed a baby. Also at 13 deal with it. You don't have much.
WTF?? I really hope you never have kids. You'll be a nightmare parent. And the kid didn't want to shave it all off you idiot. He wanted to trim it. Check your reading comprehension and your sanity. Different people grow different amounts of hair. Who are you to tell someone else what to do with their own body? Assh@t.
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