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Waiter Gets Frustrated When Customers Tip Him Only $3.28, Doesn’t Expect This Surprise The Next Day
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Waiter Gets Frustrated When Customers Tip Him Only $3.28, Doesn’t Expect This Surprise The Next Day

First impressions can be very hard to change, but these teenagers did everything they could. Celebrating their homecoming, a group of 13-year-olds went to a restaurant. Due to their young minds, however, they didn’t reward their waiter with an appropriate tip. “Nothing more frustrating than when I get little to nothing for a tip and the customer is smiling and thanking me profusely as they exit,” he said. His attitude towards the guys changed drastically the following day.

“I’ve been serving a long time,” the waiter said. “Nothing like this has ever happened to me, or anyone [I know].” Scroll down to check out what made him to change his mind, restoring his faith in people and parenting!

Waiter’s job is hard, especially if you’re doing the job well and customers don’t reward you with an appropriate tip

Image credits: Ken Eckert

This happened to one waiter who spent an evening making sure a group of teens was fully satisfied to find they left him just $3.28

Image credits: getupstudio

Next day, however, he received this letter:

Here’s what he had to say to the teens:

People also congratulated the teens on quick thinking

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Agata Kucharska
Community Member
4 years ago

I know that in the US giving a tip is a standard, but I still do not understand why. Waiters are doing their jobs and they are paid for it by the employer. Shouldn't that be enough. In Denmark for example, leaving a tip can be offensive to the waiter and the restaurant owner. As if you were suggesting that they are not paying their employees rightfully for the job that they are doing.

Amina Hays
Community Member
4 years ago

I've also wondered why tipping is mandatory in the states. Don't they get minimum wage? If not, isn't that illegal? I really have no idea.

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Saint Eva Marie
Community Member
4 years ago

Gosh, what an exceptional writer for a student her age! She is well read.

Ivolution
Community Member
4 years ago

I am actually wondering if a 13 year old wrote that...and how much the bill was for the 13 years old if they left 22$ tip

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Mixedupste
Community Member
4 years ago

Good parents!! But why do you guys tip? i really don't get it. You earn a wage and if someone wants to tip then fair does but you shouldn't be forced to leave a tip, even when you have amazing or bad service. Shouldn't have to beg for your wage.

Jana DesForges
Community Member
4 years ago

service staff do not earn a decent wage. they live primarily on tips. that’s just the current system.

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Luis Villarreal
Community Member
4 years ago

I do not understand why TIp is mandatory! A Tip should be given when the service or product you receive go beyond expectations. And even worse, if you don't tip, you are look as a cheap person!! I understand that the waiters do not get paid enough, but why? They are workers like anyone else and need to get paid by they employers! In an industry where you pay 3.50 for a soft drink where the real cost is .50 cents the owner should have a good margin of earnings to pay his employees at least minimum wage! They said the waiter job is hard, and that's why they get tipped... but please tell me: what job is not hard? I think the waiters should be get paid by the employers and try to get the extra going beyond expectations like other workers do for get the monthly incentive or the company bounusbeyonexpectations like

Ashok Shahi
Community Member
4 years ago

I agree and think tip being mandatory means the owners/employers can rob their staff by only paying $2.31 an hour? The customer has to pay the food price and pay rest of the wage to the water as his wage? I also work in hospitality business and deal with lots of customers. I get paid a decent wage and pay my staff a decent wage. Then the work ethic is consistant. Tipping is when some one goes more than what you paid for and is happy. So I dont put it as mandatory. I tell my customers whether they tip me or not should not depict how I should serve them. They only need to pay the bill and not feel bad about not tipping. But sometimes in the US it has become so much a culture no one thinks if its right or not but only feel bad/horrible if they don't do so. Its sad. It is courteous of you to tip and I am not bluntly saying we shouldn't do that at all. But also the industry CEO's and owners shouldn't just pay $2.31 to their staff per hour and become rich.

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Lara Li
Community Member
4 years ago

Again I prefer Europe, were the waiters usually split the tips with all employees (were I worked the chef became part of the tips as well) and also a small wage- but still enough to live ;)

Bored Fox
Community Member
4 years ago

I live in Finland where we don't tip so many Finnish tourists are usually very confused how much tip they should give. I remeber when Euro was still a new currency and I was visiting France with my family. I did not know sould we had left tips to the restaurants so I just emptied my wallet and left a huge pile of 1 and 2 cent coins to the tables. And that was only because here in Finland the shops usually do not accept 1 or 2 cent coins. Nowadays it is easy because you can just google do you need to tip and how much money you should give.

Jeni Leigh
Community Member
4 years ago

When I first moved from the US to Finland I felt so very rude for not tipping waiters/waitresses. My Finnish husband assured me that tipping isn't done here but it still felt wrong.

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Erica Johnson
Community Member
4 years ago

For those of you who do not understand why we give a tip here in the US Most servers here only earn $2.13 (USD) and Minimum wage is $7.25 (USD) on top of that in you higher end restaurants that tip is then required by the server to be split with all who had a hand in the dinning experience (the busboy/dishwasher, the Bartender(s),and anyone else who helped bring out the food, fetch drinks,took request,etc.) in my experience you will find that those who bust their asses off get shafted way more then those who do not for a few reasons on their tips tend to be higher then those not busting their asses off and "Earning" that higher tip and end up keep less of the money they earned and those not busing their asses off take home more then they earned (doing a worse job) because of those doing a better job (not right no mater how you try to justify it) so service and the dining experience tends to suffer for it when servers stop caring.

Iris Jans
Community Member
4 years ago

But if 7.25 is the minimum wage, why are restaurants/bars not obligated to pay the servers that amount? I really still don't understand..

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Christian Paul Damian
Community Member
4 years ago

They should get minimum wage. By tipping you support this unfair practice of paying waiters and server's wages below standard. Muricans should fix their stupid system and not support it further. It is inhumane for the law to allow wages below minimum.

Ashok Shahi
Community Member
4 years ago

100% agreed

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John Doe
Community Member
4 years ago

Went out to a German restaurant once. the waitress served us food, asked if we were happy with the food, if we needed anything else. she was super nice! minutes later, we saw her leaving! it was 10pm-ish, she was done for the night. we had no clue what to do with her tip! apparently they don't expect tips!! we did leave the tip with her name at the cash!

Asper Rated
Community Member
4 years ago

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How about they put it aside for her. How novel right? To set something aside for someone who doesnt want to wait for people like you to drone on for hours over a solitary softdrink. Cheap, entitled people like you "expect" the server to be as excited to stay HOURS after Cheap people like you stop spending money and lovingly "close the place down". Do you know what people like you are known as by servers? A holes.

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Tracy Standridge
Community Member
4 years ago

I hate how he says he hates it when people smile and profusely thank him but don't leave him a good tip. All about money, huh?

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

Of course it's about money! What he is talking about here could be the difference between paying his rent and living on the street. Some countries pay a decent living wage to their people in the service industries--we don't! He's hustling to pay his rent, utilities, put food on the table, etc. Many restaurants don't even feed their employees, not even at a reduced rate. The restaurant industry in the US is a robber baron's market, and the ones getting robbed are the employees. With our unemployment rate, there will always be someone willing to fill that job and hope for the best. I envy the countries who don't have this problem...

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MagicalUnicorn
Community Member
4 years ago

their parents must be proud, they did great job

Beth
Community Member
4 years ago

Very cool that the kids were allowed to go out and have a grown up experience, and also very cool that their parents were astute enough to see the small problem and help them put it right.

Kerri Russ
Community Member
4 years ago

To understand why American's tip, think about this: "But in America, pressure from powerful corporate interests resulted in a two-tiered wage system for tipped and non-tipped workers, institutionalizing a highly racialized system of economic exclusion. Formalized in 1938 in the first minimum wage law as part of the New Deal, this separate and unequal system stated that employers were not obligated to pay a base wage to workers whose minimum wage was met through tips." (fordfoundation.org) It goes back a long way in this country, catering to businesses that hire people who serve others so they can save money by having the customers help with evening out the wages the workers earn. My husband and I tip well because we both know what those jobs entail AND that the workers aren't compensated for their hard work. However, we do tip based on performance.

Katie
Community Member
4 years ago

Waiters and waitress are only paid $2.13 an hour. At least that was the rate when I was a waitress, about 7-8 years ago. Also, our taxes came out of that pay, including taxes on the tips we had to report in the computer system, so we basically did not get a paycheck. Do i think it makes sense or is morally right? Nope. It never made sense to me that the customers were responsible for essentially all of my income, but that's the culture here. Funny that i had friends that worked at local family-owned restaurants who were given fair wages as servers, it was mostly the big corporations that took full advantage of that. Go figure.

Katie
Community Member
4 years ago

I should also mention that I worked at an Olive Garden, and wait staff was also responsible for tipping out a portion of whatever we made that day to both the bussers and bartenders. So not only do we not get a paycheck, but WE were responsible for helping the other (HOURLY WAGE) employees make more money. Darden restaurants are the worst. I haven't eaten at one since i quit and won't ever again.

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Lu
Community Member
4 years ago

Impressive for 13 year olds, well done! To waiters - sadly this happens, in most of the world tips aren't given. And while some people are just cheap, some also make cultural mistakes or other oversights.

Yolanda Estrada-Munoz
Community Member
4 years ago

In the U.S., waiters/waitstaff get paid about $2.31 an hour. So yes, the tips are important. Perhaps they should be given a REAL living wage, then they wouldn't have to depend/expect tips.

Diane Diggs
Community Member
4 years ago

That is a horrible wage!!!

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CmLfrm IL
Community Member
4 years ago

Awesome! There are a lot of kids like this. Brings a smile to my face and joy to my heart.

Karla Peterson
Community Member
4 years ago

Tipping should NOT be mandatory! It stands for “To insure prompt service “ . If I have a crap wait person, I’ll reflect that in the tip. If they rely on tips to make their job worth it, they best be the best they can be. If they’re great, I’ll show that in my tip. I don’t why it’s a mandatory percentage, I don’t follow that! Unless they’re good, and treat me great!

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

The percentage is to help the math-challenged figure out what a decent tip is. Like my mother. She tipped very well--if it was still 1922! If you're going to whine about *that*, don't ever go to a 'show'restaurant (like a teppanyaki place.) You're paying for the wait-staff, the busser, and the chef who comes to your table! Figure 50-60% for a decent show and meal.

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Deborah White
Community Member
4 years ago

Why does the article say "the next day" and reference "the teens quick thinking" when the note says it had been a week and a half?

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

It arrived the day after he posted his comment, not the day after the kids were there.

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Lisa Yeloushan
Community Member
4 years ago

I know it’s not the point, but I love how the article repeatedly says “the next day” when the letter states “A week and a half ago” & the servers FB post says, “another day”.

Karen Kelly
Community Member
4 years ago

I just wanted to add a NEWSFLASH for all the US persons replying in this thread. The internet is not just peopled by residents of the USA. When you post online you could be talking to people from literally anywhere in the world. So stop getting so uppity over people not understanding your fucked up labour laws. The USA has 5% of the world's population. In Australia (where I am from) the minimum wage for waiters is over $20 an hour and $50 on weekends. Plus mandatory retirement contributions of 9.5% AND we get universal healthcare. Your country is fucked up. You are NOT the best country on earth and you are all being ripped off by your employers every single day.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

Are you familiar with the song "The Son of a..." ?

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Shayna Smart
Community Member
4 years ago

In the U.S. many servers make less than $3/hr because tipping is custom. They're checks really just cover taxes, and I've seen people have paychecks for less than $20. Please, tip your servers when you come to the states, and we promise to NOT tip when traveling abroad!

Sheila Merritt
Community Member
4 years ago

That was really great of those kids!

Linda Hobart
Community Member
4 years ago

Fabulous young people and fabulous waiter!

Marlene Yagoda Hamilton
Community Member
4 years ago

I have been blessed to have worked both sides of the table. The establishment " expects " us to pay them. I never go anywhere from a Coney Island to a 5 star place to leave less then 20 percent. If you cannot afford to do that . My suggestion would be to stay home! Those people work very hard to support themselves and most of the time families😄

Nicholas Stix
Community Member
4 years ago

Marlene Yagoda Hamilton "If you cannot afford to do that . My suggestion would be to stay home!" My suggestion is that you pay even more, while I pay nothing. If you give 20% tips, you're a fool.

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Frank Castle
Community Member
4 years ago

Wow, a thirteen-year old wrote a letter, actually with a pencil or pen? Amazing!

Enea
Community Member
4 years ago

What I don't get is why people continuously congratulate the parents. It was the teenagers who made a decision, not their parents. Thanking their parents, teachers, peers or other role models and ignoring their own concious choice is patronizing and disempowering. They did a kind thing, and they did so because they chose to.

Malinda Washburn
Community Member
4 years ago

There's a reason why I don't generally go by percentages when I give tips. I go by dollar amount. If I'm out on the town and already spending 40$ on dinner, I can afford another 20 for a good server, especially if it's a particularly rowdy night and they're super busy. Will I give a few dollars less for less than stellar service? Yes, but I still do my best to give a good tip because I would much rather these people get enough money to feed themselves and any family they might have than to send some sort of "message". For all I know, the service was less than stellar because that person was on their last legs and just counting down the seconds til they could clock out.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

Good for you!

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Martin Čapek
Community Member
4 years ago

Beggin 13y old kids for money. I dunno but maybe it is time to reconsider your career choices.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

Fine, if you have an education or a choice!

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Beacher
Community Member
4 years ago

In every country in the world, (except the U.S.A.), waitstaff do not depend on tips! Waitstaff everywhere earn a living wage. Waitstaff in the U.S.A. have devalued themselves by accepting jobs, and their employers, that accept and expect tips. It's backwards and wrong.

Tyra Gray
Community Member
4 years ago

I’ve waitressed before, and the minimum wage is not a livable wage. In certain instances waitresses have to declare their tips even though they have to share them with hostesses, bus boys, and cooks.

BurntBrownies
Community Member
4 years ago

Aaa.. In Brazil we don't give tips at all, so sometimes we can look ungrateful when we travel to the us....so... Yeah... Dont get us wrongs, its just not part of our culture :T

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

Don't feel bad. A lot of countries have the same problem. We have some in the US who feel the world owes them service because they're some fetish of religious. (And no, not standard 'religious'.)

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Mayra Elkhattabi
Community Member
4 years ago

FYI U.S TIP STANDARD EXPLAINED: I noticed a lot of questions a to WHY there is a Tip System in the U.S although it did start in Europe many years ago. In the U.S it was a result of newly freed slaves. since paying people a decent wage when they had been forced to work for free was really hard to comprehend. the work around was you will work and serve and the customers will pay you. since then there was a minimum wage of like 2 dollars and customers are supposed to supplement their wage by tip. its really stupid for obvious reasons. people on that type of salary live check to check and cant afford to go to school to better their situation so they are stuck at applebees, olive graden, ihop working long hours, rude customers and employers encouraging them to wear lower cleavage that opens the door to sexual harassment. its obviously a something that has evolved from slavery to women's right at this point.

Cheryl Dycio
Community Member
4 years ago

I remember something similar happening to me when I was younger and didn't account for a tip. My parents later explained it to me and I too felt bad. Good job in going back and fixing your wrong.

Justi
Community Member
4 years ago

i don't understand this business and would never depend my wages on customers' humor. in my country we leave 10% tip if we are happy with the waiter, it's considered polite. i believe apart from the tips they are paid quite normally.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

And I'll bet they get benefits, too. Here, unless they work 35 hours a week or more, they're considered part time, and the employers don't have to provide any type of benefits: sick time, medical coverage, etc. Sucks rocks through a straw...

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Sarah Muckler
Community Member
4 years ago

Here in the states serving staff are normally not paid the minimum wage. They may make less than 2.00 per hour, some establishments even force them to divide their tips with the cooks and bus staff. Properly tipping is not just a nice thing to do. It is the right thing to do here. In restaurants and bars as well!!! Why do people not understand this!! I have never worked in the food and drink service industry but I understand the system. For usually service for each 5 dollars of the bill 1 dollar in a tip is appropriate. 10 dollar bill 2 dollar tip. 100 dollar bill 20 dollar tip. For extra special service the tip goes up but never down. I you are not getting the service you feel you need especially if the server appears over worked and unable to attend to all needs do not reduce the amount of the tip but ask to speak to a manager.

Karen Campbell
Community Member
4 years ago

We had the opposite experience as teens. We went to a sandwich and ice cream shop, and the waitress completely ignored us. One of the guys who worked as a waiter somewhere else finally went to the wait station himself to get glasses of water for everyone, and she still ignored us. It was HIS idea to teach her a lesson about assuming teens were a waste of her time. The two best writers collaborated on wording, and then the one with the best handwriting wrote the note, pointing out that with as many of us as there were, all planning to order both a sandwich and ice cream, the tip would have been substantial. Since you chose not to serve us, we'll be going to That Other Place from now on. Meanwhile, the guy who worked as a waiter took two pennies, put them in a glass of water, and flipped the glass upside down on the table, and then filled all the other glasses and flipped them upside down so that she'd have a gallon of water to clean up.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

There were 15 of us at an upscale Boston, Mass. restaurant (many years ago, now) and since the waitress ignored us, one member drew a mustard happy face and left the 2 pennies in the eyes. On the other hand, we've been known to do our own basic waiting if the poor woman/man is run off their feet with customers. We do understand the OMG, where did they all come from at once syndrome.

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Crazy Horse
Community Member
4 years ago

It's nice to see another Lithuanian write a story for Bored Panda. (Giedre is about as Lithuanian as they come.) I may be nitpicking but on the line where she says "...making sure a group of teens was fully satisfied..." it should be were instead of was. Otherwise, a feel good ending to the story. howling-ir...12457b.jpg howling-iron-wolf-5a6725f12457b.jpg

Crazy Horse
Community Member
4 years ago

That's the iron wolf howling on a bluff, in case you're interested in the image. The symbol of of Vilnius, the capital of Lithuania.

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Dana Dara
Community Member
4 years ago

Waiters usually do make enough to live. I worked in a variety of establishments when I was a teenager and generally made between $60-300 per night. I worked 5 nights a week. It's not the money that makes it hard to live, it's that you can't prove how much you make to the bank. All that shows up on your pay stubs is your $2-3 hourly wage.

westwing
Community Member
4 years ago

To make the tipping thing even more fun is the fact that when someone stiffs a waiter the IRS still assumes the waiter actually got tipped for the bill for income tax purposes. So if you’re a cheap ass, It’s really just best for everyone if you just stay home

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

Heh. You should try working out the wages/tips, etc when you're working for the welfare dept and trying to work out a budget for the person with the job. We had to assume tips, too!

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A D
Community Member
4 years ago

next day or week and a half later?

Zulma Ruiz
Community Member
4 years ago

In some country like Argentina, or Chile, when you give the money to the waiter, and you say thank you, maybe they do not bring you the change and stay like a tip, thanks you have to says once they bring the change to the table, if not suppose you leave them a tip.

Gillian Black
Community Member
4 years ago

the wages are not high for this type of work and tips mean so much to them, and these kids were honest I like that also they have been bought up right, respect is a big thing.waiters or waitress get very poor wage

Mont
Community Member
4 years ago

Waiters and Waitresses make more than minimum wage, otherwise no one would do that job. Its not a fun job, but the tips add up. If you work at a place that serves alcohol, you'll make even more. Waiting is a decent starting job and you make pretty good money.

Olivia Kuczynski
Community Member
4 years ago

If the bill came to $12.97 total, a 20% tip (which would be a good tip) would be $2.59. They over-tipped the customary tip for good service. SO THEN he gets an additional $18.00 tip after already receiving the $3.28 tip...A $21.00 TIP FOR A $12.97 restaurant bill. He stole from these young ladies.

Kerri Russ
Community Member
4 years ago

The picture is a stock photo, not from the actual homecoming evening.

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Kenny Kulbiski
Community Member
4 years ago

Once paid a $20 tab with a $50 bill. Server asked me if I wanted my change. Tipping is a pain in the ass. Not enough and you're a tightwad, to much and you're a sucker. I just want to eat and leave, not spend my time figuring out the economics of it. Put the damn thing on my bill so I can be done with it.

Springs Doe
Community Member
4 years ago

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It's truly about **LAZINESS**. They don't want to do an extra step of getting change. I TRULY BELIEVE it is WAYYY MORE about that than it is about thinking they'd make a $30 tip from you. Think about it...

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Porto DaMartinica
Community Member
4 years ago

and then everyone stood up and clapped

rvmg
Community Member
4 years ago

Great Kids in my country we leave tip if garcon really deserve it but in US it feels like mandatory than why don't you add it to the bill, like a couvert charge

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

They'll do it for a large group (the number of people varies from restaurant to restaurant) but most owners really just expect the public to do their jobs for them. Sigh. It's been a long, involved argument for a long, long time.

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PL Holmes
Community Member
3 years ago

Best thing I've read all day. Good job waiter, young ladies and their parents.

Meg Pasquini
Community Member
4 years ago

Among many weird customs here, servers are paid a paltry amount to do a hard job and it's up to the customer to do the rest. When someone looks for a normal job, they look at what the job pays. For a server job, you apply to the restaurant that matches your skills that will generate the most tips based on the prices. It's ridicules. It should be that the owner of the restaurant pays what someone is worth to them based on their contribution to the restaurant's income as part of the expense of doing business. Ultimately, it is passed on to the customer as business expenses like in every other business.In the restaurant industry, the customer determines what the employee gets paid on top of their ridiculously low base pay. When in the states, please tip well. Look at it this way; if it was done right, the food would cost a bit more so it all comes out the same in the wash. I always tip large since it's not the servers fault that that is how things are run here. I used to be a server.

amanda strachan
Community Member
4 years ago

Why do 'waiting staff' in the states expect a huge tip., surely it's for extra special service. I was a nurse for years and some of the things I had to do in my work ldeserved an a medal, but I was. Jpaid my wage and that was it....

Chukwuemeka Onyedinma
Community Member
4 years ago

I work at a bar and the pay isn't so good, it barely affords me a decent living. Tips are what sustain me on for daily living so I can meet bigger needs like housing and education. On the days the tips go well am like the happiest man. Kudos to the teenagers.

Thom Wentworth
Community Member
4 years ago

fine children with clean hearts and minds

Fitz Usmany
Community Member
4 years ago

Unfortunately leaving tips is important to American waiters and waitresses because the get paid so low. In the Netherlands we have minimum wages, so waiters do not please you more because of a tip they might get. The tips go into a pot and are divided among all the personal. Yes, also the cooks and the waiters behind the bars, since all are part of the 'experience' customers have. In 2000 I guided American friends over. We had diner in a fancy area. The waitress was nice and funny.My American guests were impressed. While eating, they noticed the waitress was leaving. Her shift ended. I was surprised to see my American guests were upset. "We want to tip her!" I explained them that the waitress was just being herself, not because she expected a tip from them. She left, knowing all tips would end up in a pot and split between all waiters, waitresses and serving personal. For me it was interesting to see.

Fitz Usmany
Community Member
4 years ago

Leaving tips is important to American waiters and waitresses because they get paid low. In the Netherlands we have minimum wages. Waiters do not please you more because of a tip they might get. In 2000 I had American friends over. We had diner in a fancy area. The waitress was nice + funny. My guests were impressed. While eating, they noticed the waitress was leaving. Her shift ended. My American guests were upset. "We want to tip her!" I explained them that the waitress was just being herself, not because she expected a tip from them. She left, knowing all tips would end up in a pot and split between all waiters, waitresses and serving personal. In the Netherlands we enter a restaurant @8 PM and sit there for hours. When I was in America vistig these friends I noticed the waiters/waitresses throw the bill at your table together with the desert: pay and leave, because the table must go round a couple of times.The more people are waited at the table the more tips they get.

Liz Morea
Community Member
4 years ago

The bill in the picture is $12.97.Four teens ate and celebrated homecoming for under $13.00? Then the teens came back with over $18.00 bucks for a tip? I call Fake News.

MyPlane150
Community Member
4 years ago

The tip and all is pretty nice but what really impressed me was this kids handwriting. And here I thought the art was dead.

JustLooking46
Community Member
4 years ago

I thought the tipping rule was 10% of the full cost of the food.So if it was $12.97 the tip should have been $1.29...or did the rules change? No pun intended.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

General tip is considered 15% for breakfast and lunch; 20% for dinner--more if you got good service. What most people don't realize is that restaurants will add a 15% gratuity to a certain size group (and over) AND expect you to tip, too!

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Bryan Smith
Community Member
4 years ago

Am i the only one who sees this article as incomplete? i cant see the response the boys gave or anything and no "next page" button to continue the story....

Jon Olson
Community Member
4 years ago

TIP is an acronym for "to insure promptness" Of course now it is no such thing. It has become a shake down of the customer. This is shown when you go to a restaurant in a group, a fixed gratuity (tip) is required because they know without the social pressure on the individual, people will not give very large tips. As has been pointed out, tips are often distributed to others, so even the concept of rewarding good service is questionable. For example, if a waiter give terrible service and makes the customer mad, the others that share in the tip and may have done a excellent job are punished. It has also been pointed out that it is insulting to the employee that people feel they have to pay extra for you to simply do your job. When I tell people who work in food service, tipping should be done away with, they get very angry. But when I ask them if they could get the same after tax compensation from wages rather than tips, I have never had anyone say they would rather get tips.

Jo Bebe
Community Member
4 years ago

It's just sad that teenagers grown enough to take themselves out for dinner don't have common sense on tipping. God help us...

Graham Fedrick
Community Member
4 years ago

How would the waiter feel if he was expected to pay 18% extra for his groceries for the cashier's help ? $22 for perhaps 15 minutes of his time !! I agree his basic wage is outrageously small but the level of this tip expectation is not proportionally fair to the final bill ( around $ 122 ). What do you folks think ? I personally think 10% would have been a good tip because he certainly made the kids experience a good one. ( if he serves 4 tables an hour it still gives him over $40 per hour )

Gornot
Community Member
4 years ago

I'm from Serbia, and in my country giving tips is a courtesy more than anything. It's an expression of thankfulness for effort put into serving someone, regardless how much the person that is or isn't getting paid. And if you regularly come back to the same place and keep up with good tips, you'd be amazed how many times waiters and bartenders try even harder for you. Special requests, seat priorities, free drinks or desserts, you name it.

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

This is how it should be. Nobody ever said our wage system was perfect. (usually the opposite.) It seems to me that the more menial the job, the less people want to acknowledge the amount of work it takes. Been there, done that, tip accordingly, believe me!

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Dominique Gonyea
Community Member
4 years ago

Waiters can earn as little as 4.50 an hour because of the whole tipping thing. Employers are allowed to pay less then minimum wage in serving jobs, just because of the tipping. A lot to my knowledge do get minimum wage but that is only $7.30 or so. Try living on that and then talk to me. ESP if you have children or s family.

Carla Abela
Community Member
4 years ago

i dont get it, you get a minimum pay and expect to augment that by tips, so frustration will set in when you dont get any! maybe he or she should look for another job to regularly augment the income, then tip will become a bonus ! how happy can he be now getting bonus every now and then!

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Tahir Ahmad
Community Member
4 years ago

This is So Beautiful and So Very Well Said As Well. I am Sure They Made The Waiter's Day The Following Day With The Tip and This Beautiful Note - Bless Them!!

Dan Davis
Community Member
4 years ago

As a former waiter years ago in Florida we had a joke. Why do Canadians never order soup? Because they do not want to even tip the bowl.

xanbex
Community Member
4 years ago

For those simple minds who do not want to tip I recommend doing two weeks of service in a very busy establishment....you will change your mind after a few double shifts. The fact that employers do not even pay minimum wages in many instances is a separate political issue and shows utter contempt for those very hard working women and men who service you. Read Molly Irvins book 'Nickeled and Dimed'. Be very very nice to your wait staff or the might put a booger in your salad [ as I once did] or spit on you lobster [ guilty...same very very obnoxious regular customer] . Be nice!

Robert Rice
Community Member
4 years ago

Waiters,and waitresses,are NOT paid the minimun wage,with their tips,that brings their pay,(supposedly) up to the minimun wage..

Valley Girl
Community Member
4 years ago

So many of these replies made me furious. Servers is California make a base of $9 an hour. In Washington State they make $11. (Maybe $15?). For those who are angered by the system and don’t tip, go to McDonald’s. It’s the system we have in the U.S. If that changes, you can keep the few dollars in your pocket. If you don’t tip now, you are a cheapskate and depriving the hardworking server who fed you and took care of all your whims their pay. For those of you from other countries who don’t tip, do a little research before visiting. The minimum is 10%. If the service went well, 15-18%. If the service was friendly and accommodating, 20%. If you didn’t like the food, talk to a manager and tip the server on their performance! To those who are “confused,” have you heard of people working on commission? Some get nothing unless they make a sale; aka, do a good job. It’s like that. Many servers make an excellent living in their PROFESSION. Don’t feel sorry for them.

Rich Anthony
Community Member
4 years ago

The waiter got two tips. One more valuable than the other.

Nicholas Stix
Community Member
4 years ago

Whenever someone plays “expert” (including people whom alleged reporters cite as such), and lectures the public that the “rule” for tipping is XX% of the tab, I get pissed off. There is no rule, and never has been. I don’t know who told those kids that they should leave 18-20%, but that person erred wildly. Oh, and only a fool tips on top of the tax. I once had a dinner guest eating on my dime in Manhattan direct me to do so. I ignored her. (Yes, she lectured her host on how to tip properly, and that was after I’d mentioned that I ran a seafood restaurant on Martha’s Vineyard during the previous summer. Those are the kind of people I encountered in Manhattan, after moving to NYC in ’85, which is why I rarely go there anymore.) There are only tipping customs, which radically differ regionally, and even local customs are in a state of anarchy, because so many establishments violate them, and so many waitresses have contempt for the customer....

April Norton
Community Member
4 years ago

My son has been a server/bartender for several years. Their wage is not the same as minimum because the govt assumes 30% of their income is tips

Kenneth Mason
Community Member
4 years ago

At best, many wait jobs are poorly paid. ( in the US ). The service people have come to depend on tips. Europe has a much longer history and understanding of the importance of a good waiter/waitress. Things are different all around the world.kapm kapm

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

You also have to remember that in the US, people often consider restaurant jobs as 'entry level', as in, 'I'm not staying here long, I need something for my resume'. Often, in other countries, I've discovered that the person has found a wonderful place to work, with friendly customers, and has made a career of this. The US has too many unsatisfied people--never happy with where they are or what they have. Blame it, if you like, on having that expanding frontier for so long. If you didn't like where you were, you could just move on.

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Bill Herman
Community Member
4 years ago

A very good letter, so very well written I have my doubts the 13 year old teen composed it. I suspect one/both parents did the actual wording. But still a very good parenting job. As for questions about Tipping from other people from other countries, tipping is legal and Expected, 20% is now considered the Norm. It's expected even when service is lousy as most all waiters are paid very little and basically need tips to make a living. There are people who do not like this system, but it is what it is. I for one tip on the basis of very good service, food, ambience, attitude, etc. I also due to my retirement income generally do not tip 20%, many waiters do not always seem to realize many people also do not have a large income, especially many older, retired people. Today some restaurants are now trying to use the system used in other countries, Placing a "Service Charge" on the bill so it's tipping automatically. Personally I think owners should pay a fair wage. They do not.

Barbara Baldwin
Community Member
4 years ago

This is how it used to be: cook got higher wage than waiters because waiters got tips. Tips didn't get taxed back then so they really upped the waiter's salary. Lord knows how it is now

Karen Klinck
Community Member
4 years ago

The IRS expects all good sheep--er, taxpayers--to report all their income and pay taxes accordingly. Since the Great American Game is paying as little taxes as possible, I have NO idea where they got this notion...

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Laurie Delorme
Community Member
4 years ago

Good job kids, making it right. Wait staff does not get minimum wage in AMERICA. They earn their salary by providing good service. If you can’t afford to tip them in an acceptable manner, go to a drive thru. Former Rest. owner.

Nicholas Stix
Community Member
4 years ago

Scott Bricker You're kidding, right?! Nobody is "suppose [sic] to" tip at least 18%. If you want to show off and overtip, that's your prerogative, but don't lie to other people.

Amanda Hawkins
Community Member
4 years ago

I have been a server for 20 years, this story is outstanding! Awesome job the server did and nice to know the young adults thought about the overall