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Guy Joins A $1.2k “Men’s Group,” Wife Smells Cult And Loses It As He Wants Her To “Submit” To Him
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Guy Joins A $1.2k “Men’s Group,” Wife Smells Cult And Loses It As He Wants Her To “Submit” To Him

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The language of self-improvement is everywhere. We’re all trying to “level up” and “become the best version of ourselves.” It sounds positive, inspiring even. But sometimes, behind the motivational slogans and promises of a better life, something much more controlling is lurking.

This toxic positivity often comes with its own bizarre, cult-like dictionary. For one woman, her husband’s new vocabulary was full of phrases like “protect the mission” and “your wife is a test.” This was the first sign that his self-improvement mission was a thinly veiled indoctrination attempt.

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    A woman’s husband joined a men’s group that slowly consumed his life and changed his personality

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    He started using bizarre, scripted phrases like ‘your wife is a test’ and spent $1,200 on a secret ‘activation’

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    Wife suspects cult after husband joins expensive men’s group and demands her submission in relationship conflict.

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    The final straw came when he wanted to take their 10-year-old son to a ‘youth circle’ to add ‘controlled pressure’

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    She refused and threatened divorce, leading her mother-in-law to text her that she needed to ‘submit’

    A woman’s stable, 11-year marriage recently took a sharp turn into a cult-like nightmare. It started innocently enough when her husband joined a men’s “community” that was supposedly about “discipline.” She initially dismissed it as a midlife crisis, quipping that it was “cheaper than a sports car.” But it quickly became clear that this was not a harmless hobby…

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    The group quickly consumed his life. He was attending meetings three nights a week, spending weekends at “intensives,” and constantly pacing the living room on group calls. He began speaking in a strange, scripted language, using phrases like “protect the mission” and “your wife is a test.” He even spent $1,200 from a joint account on a secret “activation,” insisting that “real men don’t ask for permission.”

    The final straw came when he announced he wanted to take their 10-year-old son to a “youth circle” to learn “values” from “strong men.” This was to put the boy through “a little controlled pressure so boys become men.” His wife’s skin crawled at the phrase, and even more when he tried to manipulate their son. The boy’s perfect, innocent reply was simply that he just wanted to play Minecraft.

    Having shut down that conversation, the wife laid down a firm boundary: if he takes their son to that group behind her back, she will leave. Instead of respecting her position, he got cold and immediately ran to his mother, who then texted her DIL that she needed to “submit” and stop being “controlling.” The woman is being painted as a paranoid villain for trying to protect her child from her husband’s creepy new “brothers.”

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    It looks like his community is a group from the “manosphere,” a dangerous and growing online network. It is a collection of websites, forums, and social media groups that promote misogyny, anti-feminist beliefs, and hostility toward women. The scripted, cult-like phrases he uses are classic examples of the in-group terminology used to indoctrinate members and reinforce a toxic, hypermasculine worldview.

    These groups often function like a “toxic cult,” as described in Monica Selo’s analysis, by preying on men’s insecurities and promising self-improvement through “discipline” and “accountability.” They then systematically isolate members from their existing support systems, just as this group has done by labeling the wife and her family as “low frequency people.”

    The $1,200 “activation fee” is another common cult-like tactic, creating a financial buy-in that makes it harder for members to question the group’s authority. Thus, the wife’s fear for her son is not “paranoid” at all. As warned in the Herald Sun, these hypermasculinity cults put both men and women in danger by promoting a rigid, emotionally stunted, and often aggressive version of manhood.

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    The idea of putting a 10-year-old through “controlled pressure so boys become men” is a direct attempt to indoctrinate a child into this harmful ideology. Her decision to draw a hard line is anything BUT overreacting, especially considering her MIL has already been tainted by this mentality. Run, girl, run!

    Do you think she is overreacting, or is this a parade of red flags we have seen one too many times? Share your thoughts below!

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    Dirk Daring
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The ending hits like an Onion article. Big Alpha Man who is IN CONTROL ran and told his mommy.

    David
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    thats the type of guys the Tate crowd recruits, bc they are losers seeking validation. Its pathetic. But cults always target people with low self esteem, and a low self esteem guy with mommy issues and craves validation with be prime targets for a "masculinity" cult.

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    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    6 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Put a limit on how much can leave the joint account without both signatures, start talking to son about bodily autonomy, consent and leadership, hopefully this convo is already commonplace but make a point, and start talking to him about cults. Hopefully dad is going to come out the other side of this and the more complete picture the kid has about what's going on the better he will be able to connect in the future. Treat it like ad.dic.tion

    Crystalwitch60
    Community Member
    6 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From a woman who’s been in a coercive marriage n one physical , he is now ligit down Tate land , maggot vile cruel cults ! that a b u se women , treat them like dirt , he also wants to indoctrinate your son in to this , GET OUT NOW when he’s at a meeting pack your things grab passport ,bank stuff birth certificates for you and your son , then pack your clothes ,and get the hell out of there , ! he is dangerous !, he’s getting in deeper n deeper,the more meetings he goes to and paying the money proves CULT ,as for his delusional mother saying submit to him what the hell , she’s clearly brainwashed to , UPDATE NEEDED

    TheReader19
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can we first talk about his mother telling her to "submit" to this bullshît. No. Get a lawyer, file for an injection, your husband has joined a dangerous red-pill cult; which may even lead to right wing under ties. Protect your son and yourself at all costs.

    R Dennis
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Soft men tricked out of hard money.

    Cee Cee
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This behaviour is firmly in Andrew Tate territory.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just don't understand how some people can be so weak minded

    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She needs to leave NOW, obviously taking her son with her. Unfortunately though that won't be possible but she needs to start preparing to go - get some cash and your legal documents together and store them elsewhere, pack a grab bag, notify the school as to what is happening here because kiddo could end up being kidnapped. Notify a lawyer if possible, and maybe file a statement with police in case it does go nuclear so there is evidence that there may be child protection necessary. Hopefully hubby will come to his senses, but probably not until he has already been indoctrinated and already fallen down the rabbit hole. Hope OP and kid are ok. (No idea how old this post is/was)

    Mary Hansen
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Any time you hear the word "submit" (if it doesn't apply to a job application or such) is the time to RUN! Crazy that the MIL is using it as well! DOUBLE RUN!!!

    J
    Community Member
    5 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run and don't look back.

    Dirk Daring
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The ending hits like an Onion article. Big Alpha Man who is IN CONTROL ran and told his mommy.

    David
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    thats the type of guys the Tate crowd recruits, bc they are losers seeking validation. Its pathetic. But cults always target people with low self esteem, and a low self esteem guy with mommy issues and craves validation with be prime targets for a "masculinity" cult.

    Load More Replies...
    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    6 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Put a limit on how much can leave the joint account without both signatures, start talking to son about bodily autonomy, consent and leadership, hopefully this convo is already commonplace but make a point, and start talking to him about cults. Hopefully dad is going to come out the other side of this and the more complete picture the kid has about what's going on the better he will be able to connect in the future. Treat it like ad.dic.tion

    Crystalwitch60
    Community Member
    6 days ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    From a woman who’s been in a coercive marriage n one physical , he is now ligit down Tate land , maggot vile cruel cults ! that a b u se women , treat them like dirt , he also wants to indoctrinate your son in to this , GET OUT NOW when he’s at a meeting pack your things grab passport ,bank stuff birth certificates for you and your son , then pack your clothes ,and get the hell out of there , ! he is dangerous !, he’s getting in deeper n deeper,the more meetings he goes to and paying the money proves CULT ,as for his delusional mother saying submit to him what the hell , she’s clearly brainwashed to , UPDATE NEEDED

    TheReader19
    Community Member
    1 week ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Can we first talk about his mother telling her to "submit" to this bullshît. No. Get a lawyer, file for an injection, your husband has joined a dangerous red-pill cult; which may even lead to right wing under ties. Protect your son and yourself at all costs.

    R Dennis
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Soft men tricked out of hard money.

    Cee Cee
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This behaviour is firmly in Andrew Tate territory.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I just don't understand how some people can be so weak minded

    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    4 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She needs to leave NOW, obviously taking her son with her. Unfortunately though that won't be possible but she needs to start preparing to go - get some cash and your legal documents together and store them elsewhere, pack a grab bag, notify the school as to what is happening here because kiddo could end up being kidnapped. Notify a lawyer if possible, and maybe file a statement with police in case it does go nuclear so there is evidence that there may be child protection necessary. Hopefully hubby will come to his senses, but probably not until he has already been indoctrinated and already fallen down the rabbit hole. Hope OP and kid are ok. (No idea how old this post is/was)

    Mary Hansen
    Community Member
    6 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Any time you hear the word "submit" (if it doesn't apply to a job application or such) is the time to RUN! Crazy that the MIL is using it as well! DOUBLE RUN!!!

    J
    Community Member
    5 days ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run and don't look back.

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