Jameela Jamil Slams Georgia’s Abortion Law And Shares Her Own Abortion Story And Not Everyone’s Supportive
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British actress Jameela Jamil once known mainly for her role on the TV series The Good Place, has made a name for herself on social media platforms for her unapologetic messages on feminism and the entertainment industry. Jamil has made waves online again recently for calling out Georgia’s move to ban abortions once a fetal heartbeat has been detected and sharing her own abortion story in the process.
The actress and body positivity activist called the bill “inhumane” and “blatantly demonstrative of a hatred of women” in a series of tweets. Jamil went on to reveal that she herself had had an abortion at a young and said: “it was the best decision” she ever made. As with her other candid statements she has made before the response to her tweets were mixed.
Actress Jameela Jamil caused a stir on the internet after she slammed Georgia’s new ‘heartbeat’ abortion law and opened up about her own personal abortion story
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Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R) signed legislation this week that banned abortions once a fetus has a detectable heartbeat, which generally occurs during six weeks of pregnancy. It includes a penalty for those who perform abortions of up to 10 years in prison. It doesn’t explicitly exempt women who perform their own abortions with drugs, so there’s speculation about whether they would also be subject to criminal charges. It has been suggested that it could even lead to murder charges for women who have abortions, but experts say it’s far from clear.
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She pointed out the issue of rape and how she believed forcing women to carry the baby of their rapist demonstrated “hatred of women.” According to the GPB women would still be able to receive an abortion under the new law if the pregnancy is believed to be “medically futile,” the woman’s life is at risk or if a police report has been filed related to rape or incest.
After criticizing the bill she revealed that she herself had had an abortion at a young age
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‘The Good Place’ actress said that she had gotten pregnant young and that her decision to terminate her pregnancy was “the best decision” she ever made. Jamil explained that she had not been ready for a baby emotionally, psychologically or financially and brought up that many children end up in foster homes as a result of mothers in unfit situations. According to Children’s Rights, on any given day, there are nearly 443,000 children in foster care in the United States.
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She ended her thread by stating that she did not intend to make and “diss” towards foster homes but instead felt that because of the bill Georgia could become “inundated with children who are unwanted.” Jamil is not the first celebrity to share their abortion story. Some other notable names who have spoken out about the controversial topic include Busy Philipps, Rose, McGowan, Nicki Minaj, and Naya Rivera.
Some women agreed with actress and even shared their own abortion experiences
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Throughout the thread women on both sides of the argument were not afraid to voice their opinion of the actress’s statement and on abortion
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What “pro-lifers” don’t seem to understand is that they are in fact not “pro-lifers” after all, they are only “pro-Birth”. They don’t care about what happens to baby once it’s born. They don’t care that the parents didn’t want or couldn’t cope with child so end up resenting the child and not giving it the best life or neglecting. They don’t care that hundreds of thousands of children are waiting to be adopted so why not just add one more. There are more children with no families than families wanting to adopt them. And it can take years to be adopted and sometimes not at all. There are many children in and out of care being mistreated, abused, neglected etc. What a way to grow up thinking no one loves you and not having a loving family. There are women who have been raped and have fallen pregnant, that “pro-Birth” still expect them to give birth to. The woman has gone through enough without having to have a child spawned by their rapist. Co parenting with their rapist would make a great family dynamic NOT
Same as pregnancies from incest, co-parenting with your dad, brother, uncle etc. Pro-Birthers don’t care that the pregnancy could kill the mother, leaving behind friends and family who love them or children they already have or the fact the baby is severely disabled, disfigured or so sick it’s life will be short and in pain. Maybe all these “pro-lifers” should adopt at least one child each if they actually care about the child’s future. A child’s life does not starts and finish at the birth so you need to look at the possible consequences of being born unwanted or unable to be cared for etc. And the effect it can have on that person for the rest of their life. That is not “pro-life”.
And you said it again. TRUTH.
Women should have the zygotes removed at 10 weeks but “give them over to the care of the state.” That way it’s not an abortion, the woman is just giving the child up for adoption. Republican men should start stepping up to carry the adoptive zygotes to term.
While we do have exceptions in the law that allow for legal termination if the mother's life is in danger, high suicide risk may not be one of those exceptions. If a mother is suicidal because of the pregnancy, they may be able to send her to a facility, where she will be watched (and possibly restrained) to prevent her from harming herself or the child. I cannot imagine a more nightmarish scenario than being strapped to a bed, while pregnant with a child I did not want, and then be forced to give birth to that child.
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Not true!! Of course people care if the pregancy is life-threatening to the mother and this law allows the fetus to be aborted in that case.
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There are already exceptions for rape and incest. This push is for tax payers to fund them
They are “anti-choice” not pro-life.
They’re gestation slavers. Don’t pretend that they’re anything else.
Antenor: I believe that's exactly what Foxxy's saying. That living a life full of pain is worse than not being born at all. And the claim about not caring about the children once they're born has reasoning. I don't see any of the pro-life people fighting for a better foster care system. For giving it more funding and easier transition. For helping single mothers. For holding the fathers responsible too (by pushing them to not abandon the women or at least paying them properly). You may be an exception but in general, all the debate is circling around the birth.
I agree there should be resources and help for the women who choose to keep a baby instead of choosing abortion.
In Georgia we DO have assistance for expecting mothers and we DO help mother's with young children. But we don't help enough. You may be able to get WIC, food stamps and government assistant for utilities. It's a toss-up on what may be available to you; mostly based on ethnicity and income (income includes assets). I own my house, so if I got pregnant and I was unable to continue working, I would get little to no assistance from the government. I'm not sure how they think that's supposed to work. Am I supposed to sell my house, and be homeless, so I can go buy food? The system is more messed up than most people realize. Georgia can say, "We provide Peachcare and WIC and food stamps. We take care of our kids." But they don't; not really. It looks good on paper, though.
This has nothing to do with kids or women or even religion. It’s just about appealing to the emotions of slawjawed yokels and church bumpkins and country hicks. They’re dumb as shit and politicians know it. They know how to appeal to them. With the dumbest shit ever. And they get millions of votes and power this way. They would play for the other team if it made them more money.
I agree completely. Pro life people are usually very against any kind of government assistance or letting people in from poorer countries. If they cared about life both of these would be a top priority. Also since they tie in their strong religious beliefs into pro life. Not that I’m against pro life people or people against open immigration. But don’t just pick and choose which people your beliefs fall on. It reminds me of all men are created equal... as long as youre white
Yup. You sure said it.
Well, what if the child's destiny was to be adopted by a wonderful family and grow up to be president? What if they could have changed the world for the better? This sounds dramatic, but many life-changers on this earth were adopted or foster kids. These babies deserve at least a chance at life! By the way, abortion IS abuse. Most of these babies feel pain. So since they would PROBABLY be abused in foster care, we might as well just kill them now. How negative! Think about what could have been. I would recommend watching the movie "Unplanned."
That is a ridiculous argument, what if the Fiture childs destiny is being another hitler, Ivan Milat, Stalin etc. at the time of an abortion the fetus does not have the brain capacity to feel pain. There is more chance of a child being abused in the foster care system and suffering lifelong effects than becoming president etc. Do you not understand the complexities of adoption. There are too many children needing families than there are families who want or can adopt them. And many go through life without being adopted at all. Abortion is not abuse but literally forcing someone to do something they don’t want to do IS abuse.
If it is a child's destiny to be born, and become something great, then it will happen. The child that is destined to be born will be born to parents who didn't abort it. That is how destiny works. As for a fetus feeling pain: let me give you a tid-bit of info. You cannot feel pain without active synapses in the brain (the nervous system has to be connected AND active in the brain), which doesn't happen until 20-24 weeks. 20 weeks is 5 months! Most women have an abortion long before that, so don't worry about the "baby" feeling pain. My argument in favor of abortion is not that the child might be abused in foster care (that is a really stupid argument and pro-choicers need to stop saying it). My argument is that uneducated people, such as yourself, have no business influencing laws that have no affect on you. Unless you plan on adopting these unwanted children, and providing for the mental health of the mother, you really have no foundation in this argument.
#ItsNotABaby #ItsNotAChild
No reasonable pro lifer is anti birth control, in fact the exact opposite. Most would much rather see birth control to prevent an unwanted pregnancy and not give a child a rough start in life, but a rough life is still better than a death sentence. None of these regulations forbid contraception or Plan B, just abortion after the 6th week.
Firstly contraception is not 100% reliable, even the world health organisation states that even if every woman takes contraception perfectly there would still be 6 million unwanted pregnancies worldwide. Secondly most women don’t know they are pregnant until around the 8 week mark. My first pregnancy I didn’t know until I was 10 weeks, my second was 7 weeks and my third was 9 weeks. Also Plan B won’t work for many women who take contraceptives or its too late before they know they are pregnant. Thirdly having a child possibly suffer through a rough life is not better than aborting a fetus that has no concept, no thought process, no pain receptors, no memory, no possible chance of surviving outside the womb etc.
If your brain is not formed, you have no brainwaves. If you have no brainwaves, you are not alive. If you are not alive, it is not a death sentence. Also, I was on birth control when I got pregnant. I didn't know I was pregnant for a few weeks (too late for plan B). It took me a few more weeks to save up money for the abortion (contrary to popular belief, it is not free). It took me another week to get an appointment and arrange transportation (had to take a day off work). My abortion was preformed at 7 1/2 weeks. That would be illegal now. If I had been denied an abortion, I am fairly confident I would have killed myself. How does that stack up in your plan for saving lives?
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Make America Great Again. Heard of it? One way we do that is to stop killing the unborn. Up to 99 years in prison for a doctor who kills a baby seems about right to me, and to millions of others, too. And don't lecture me on foster care. I'm a social worker and work with foster kids all the time. Pro-choice is anti-life, period.
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The women who can't keep their legs closed are the ones who don't care!! Let's start where it starts: with 2 people having sex. Either don't do it or use reliable birth control!! Put the blame where it belongs!
There is no such thing as 100% reliable birth control and sex is a natural part of life especially in marriages. Over 51% of patients who get an abortion were taking contraception. Even the world health organisation states that even if all women take contraception perfectly there will still be 6million unwanted pregnancies.
Ok, I will let that 11 year old rape victim pregnant by her 27 year old cousin know that she "couldnt keep her legs closed", so should risk her life by carrying a kid, because Kim thinks that 6 week old fetal tissue is more important than her ENTIRE LIFE. Disgusting.
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So kill it? Rape children account for .01% of births, total straw man argument. Babies get adopted very quickly, pre teens spend a lot of time in the foster system. You are wrong, please do some research and all your upvotes are based on good feelings not facts.
Adoption is not an easy process and can take years. Also not all kids get adopted Moron. Don’t know what the fuck MAGA is and don’t care. How many kids have you adopted?? In Australia alone there are over 40,000 kids needing adopting and on average only 200 are adopted a year. The rest are in and out of foster care or institutions. On average in the US it takes a child 3-5 years to be adopted. Sadly some not at all. Many abortions are done because contraception failed. And FYI I am stating facts.
Adoption has nothing to do with it. Abortion would be perfectly fine whether it’s rape or not. No need to even discuss rape.
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It's called adoption, Moron. MAGA !!
Adoption is not an easy process and can take years. Also not all kids get adopted Moron. Don’t know what the fuck MAGA is and don’t care. How many kids have you adopted?? In Australia alone there are over 40,000 kids needing adopting and on average only 200 are adopted a year. The rest are in and out of foster care or institutions.
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Then put the money budgeted for elective abortions into child services
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I don't understand... so you're saying that it is better to be dead than not have "the best life" (btw, who decides what's the best life?). And how can you so blatantly claim that we do not care for people after they are born? Based on what, except on your own prejudices?
I completely understand why many are opposed to abortion. But banning isn't the answer, as someone mentioned above, forcing women to go ahead with unwanted pregnancy is torture and violation of human rights. If you are against abortion, do everything you can to end/change the various things that lead to abortion in society. You have your work cut out for you, don't just try and ban something which is necessary and required.
Exactly. I personally couldn't go through an abortion. So I make everything I can to not get pregnant. If you're against abortion - go ahead and support places that give out contraception, support sex education - things that have been actually proven to lower the number of abortions. Banns have not.
I got pregnant while on birth control. It was supposedly one of my "safe days" too. I have no regrets about getting an abortion. The fetus was not developed enough to have brain activity yet. No brain activity = no life.
I agree that we need to provide support for young women including education, birth control, role models, job training, etc. to help stop the unwanted pregnancies!! That really would make a difference in slowing down the number of unwanted pregnancies. I also believe that the people making the babies are also responsible by making the choice to have sex in the first place!!b It's not rocket science that sex can equal a pregnancy,. It's not right to kill the baby because the parents cared more about getting it on than getting pregnant and killing the baby.
Even still there are scenarios where abortion should be allowed. Rape, health issues, etc. and inability to support a child
Yeetybird what
Well, Kim, I'm so glad to hear that your life is going so perfectly. Either you are happily not having sex (to prevent unwanted pregnancies, of course). Or, you are with a partner where this is not an issue (lesbian, husband makes enough to support you and the kids, husband is sterile). Good for you! For the rest of us, life is not so perfect. You seem to be taking a very derogatory stance against women who have sex. It's almost like you think we are whores. You think we are poorly educated, have no role models and are unemployed. This really doesn't win you any friends, Kim. I have had an abortion. I was in my thirties, on birth control, in a committed relationship and working as a behavioral therapist. Why I had an abortion is, quite frankly, none of your business (why I was having sex is also none of your business). I had it done at 7 1/2 weeks. I did not kill a baby. A heartbeat does not equate life; a brainwave does.
I think people underestimate how heavy of a burden you place on a child that wasn't wanted. I've read a couple of stories of the people who grew up with that and it certainly wasn't easy. Many of them are scarred for life never being able to recover from the fact that their mother didn't want them to come to this world but was forced to. Their childhood is terribly difficult because of this. They feel not worthy, they're likely to do drugs, they have problems having healthy relationships. Some women are simply not meant to be mothers. Don't have the capacity. And some of these women do get pregnant. But they all should have the choice to make the decision not to continue the pregnancy. And if you're wondering how I would feel if I was the fetus being aborted - I wouldn't know about it. And if my mother didn't wish for me to be born for any reason, I'd be all for her to make that decision. The new laws in Georgia break my heart.
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That is why there is a thing called adoption
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ADOPTION!!!!! Adoption is great, I speak from experience. Mothers of aborted baby’s don’t share this side of the story so it’s unknown. Once you have a kid, after you’ve aborted, can you honestly think, “ya it was a great idea to kill a fetus like this” no you can’t. Don’t say you can cause your lieing. You have a right to your own opinion and I know humans don’t care about anyone but themselves but we can still try. If you’re not ready don’t have premarital sex. It’s not rocket science
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That is the fault of the 2 people who decided to have sex. That is where that burden lies. The unwanted pregnancy is their fault and nobody else's. If you don't want a baby don't have sex. And if you get pregnant quit being so selfish and raise your kid because that is the adult, right thing to do instead of aborting it or abandoning it in the world.
Don't have sex? Do you have any idea about the real world at all? Go back under that rock.
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You know I saw this kid on the street, he looked poor and no one wanted him . So I shot him to save him makes since doesn't it? Now he's not suffering, his mother now has no responsibility for creating him. We can just round up all the poor and un wanted kids and put them to a firing squad let's kill then all. Or how about we hold the people who are having un protected sex accountable. How about we start teaching our children morals, teaching right from wrong.
There is ZERO comparison to killing a living, breathing human being to a fetus who cannot survive outside the womb, has no identity, has no brain function to understand what is going on etc etc etc. That argument is just ridiculous. And you do know that people fall pregnant all the time whilst using contraception, because contraception can fail.
@Merle Stroud Your overly dramatic comment has completely missed the point by such a wide margin.
Quick decision, you're holding a petri dish with embryos in one hand and an actual living child in the other. You can only save one, which one are you choosing? That's about how much sense what you said made. There is a huge difference between being killed and never being born.
You are a self righteous 4ss and can shove your entire false equivalence fallacy where it inconveniences you the most. Thank you for your time.
What “pro-lifers” don’t seem to understand is that they are in fact not “pro-lifers” after all, they are only “pro-Birth”. They don’t care about what happens to baby once it’s born. They don’t care that the parents didn’t want or couldn’t cope with child so end up resenting the child and not giving it the best life or neglecting. They don’t care that hundreds of thousands of children are waiting to be adopted so why not just add one more. There are more children with no families than families wanting to adopt them. And it can take years to be adopted and sometimes not at all. There are many children in and out of care being mistreated, abused, neglected etc. What a way to grow up thinking no one loves you and not having a loving family. There are women who have been raped and have fallen pregnant, that “pro-Birth” still expect them to give birth to. The woman has gone through enough without having to have a child spawned by their rapist. Co parenting with their rapist would make a great family dynamic NOT
Same as pregnancies from incest, co-parenting with your dad, brother, uncle etc. Pro-Birthers don’t care that the pregnancy could kill the mother, leaving behind friends and family who love them or children they already have or the fact the baby is severely disabled, disfigured or so sick it’s life will be short and in pain. Maybe all these “pro-lifers” should adopt at least one child each if they actually care about the child’s future. A child’s life does not starts and finish at the birth so you need to look at the possible consequences of being born unwanted or unable to be cared for etc. And the effect it can have on that person for the rest of their life. That is not “pro-life”.
And you said it again. TRUTH.
Women should have the zygotes removed at 10 weeks but “give them over to the care of the state.” That way it’s not an abortion, the woman is just giving the child up for adoption. Republican men should start stepping up to carry the adoptive zygotes to term.
While we do have exceptions in the law that allow for legal termination if the mother's life is in danger, high suicide risk may not be one of those exceptions. If a mother is suicidal because of the pregnancy, they may be able to send her to a facility, where she will be watched (and possibly restrained) to prevent her from harming herself or the child. I cannot imagine a more nightmarish scenario than being strapped to a bed, while pregnant with a child I did not want, and then be forced to give birth to that child.
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Not true!! Of course people care if the pregancy is life-threatening to the mother and this law allows the fetus to be aborted in that case.
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There are already exceptions for rape and incest. This push is for tax payers to fund them
They are “anti-choice” not pro-life.
They’re gestation slavers. Don’t pretend that they’re anything else.
Antenor: I believe that's exactly what Foxxy's saying. That living a life full of pain is worse than not being born at all. And the claim about not caring about the children once they're born has reasoning. I don't see any of the pro-life people fighting for a better foster care system. For giving it more funding and easier transition. For helping single mothers. For holding the fathers responsible too (by pushing them to not abandon the women or at least paying them properly). You may be an exception but in general, all the debate is circling around the birth.
I agree there should be resources and help for the women who choose to keep a baby instead of choosing abortion.
In Georgia we DO have assistance for expecting mothers and we DO help mother's with young children. But we don't help enough. You may be able to get WIC, food stamps and government assistant for utilities. It's a toss-up on what may be available to you; mostly based on ethnicity and income (income includes assets). I own my house, so if I got pregnant and I was unable to continue working, I would get little to no assistance from the government. I'm not sure how they think that's supposed to work. Am I supposed to sell my house, and be homeless, so I can go buy food? The system is more messed up than most people realize. Georgia can say, "We provide Peachcare and WIC and food stamps. We take care of our kids." But they don't; not really. It looks good on paper, though.
This has nothing to do with kids or women or even religion. It’s just about appealing to the emotions of slawjawed yokels and church bumpkins and country hicks. They’re dumb as shit and politicians know it. They know how to appeal to them. With the dumbest shit ever. And they get millions of votes and power this way. They would play for the other team if it made them more money.
I agree completely. Pro life people are usually very against any kind of government assistance or letting people in from poorer countries. If they cared about life both of these would be a top priority. Also since they tie in their strong religious beliefs into pro life. Not that I’m against pro life people or people against open immigration. But don’t just pick and choose which people your beliefs fall on. It reminds me of all men are created equal... as long as youre white
Yup. You sure said it.
Well, what if the child's destiny was to be adopted by a wonderful family and grow up to be president? What if they could have changed the world for the better? This sounds dramatic, but many life-changers on this earth were adopted or foster kids. These babies deserve at least a chance at life! By the way, abortion IS abuse. Most of these babies feel pain. So since they would PROBABLY be abused in foster care, we might as well just kill them now. How negative! Think about what could have been. I would recommend watching the movie "Unplanned."
That is a ridiculous argument, what if the Fiture childs destiny is being another hitler, Ivan Milat, Stalin etc. at the time of an abortion the fetus does not have the brain capacity to feel pain. There is more chance of a child being abused in the foster care system and suffering lifelong effects than becoming president etc. Do you not understand the complexities of adoption. There are too many children needing families than there are families who want or can adopt them. And many go through life without being adopted at all. Abortion is not abuse but literally forcing someone to do something they don’t want to do IS abuse.
If it is a child's destiny to be born, and become something great, then it will happen. The child that is destined to be born will be born to parents who didn't abort it. That is how destiny works. As for a fetus feeling pain: let me give you a tid-bit of info. You cannot feel pain without active synapses in the brain (the nervous system has to be connected AND active in the brain), which doesn't happen until 20-24 weeks. 20 weeks is 5 months! Most women have an abortion long before that, so don't worry about the "baby" feeling pain. My argument in favor of abortion is not that the child might be abused in foster care (that is a really stupid argument and pro-choicers need to stop saying it). My argument is that uneducated people, such as yourself, have no business influencing laws that have no affect on you. Unless you plan on adopting these unwanted children, and providing for the mental health of the mother, you really have no foundation in this argument.
#ItsNotABaby #ItsNotAChild
No reasonable pro lifer is anti birth control, in fact the exact opposite. Most would much rather see birth control to prevent an unwanted pregnancy and not give a child a rough start in life, but a rough life is still better than a death sentence. None of these regulations forbid contraception or Plan B, just abortion after the 6th week.
Firstly contraception is not 100% reliable, even the world health organisation states that even if every woman takes contraception perfectly there would still be 6 million unwanted pregnancies worldwide. Secondly most women don’t know they are pregnant until around the 8 week mark. My first pregnancy I didn’t know until I was 10 weeks, my second was 7 weeks and my third was 9 weeks. Also Plan B won’t work for many women who take contraceptives or its too late before they know they are pregnant. Thirdly having a child possibly suffer through a rough life is not better than aborting a fetus that has no concept, no thought process, no pain receptors, no memory, no possible chance of surviving outside the womb etc.
If your brain is not formed, you have no brainwaves. If you have no brainwaves, you are not alive. If you are not alive, it is not a death sentence. Also, I was on birth control when I got pregnant. I didn't know I was pregnant for a few weeks (too late for plan B). It took me a few more weeks to save up money for the abortion (contrary to popular belief, it is not free). It took me another week to get an appointment and arrange transportation (had to take a day off work). My abortion was preformed at 7 1/2 weeks. That would be illegal now. If I had been denied an abortion, I am fairly confident I would have killed myself. How does that stack up in your plan for saving lives?
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Make America Great Again. Heard of it? One way we do that is to stop killing the unborn. Up to 99 years in prison for a doctor who kills a baby seems about right to me, and to millions of others, too. And don't lecture me on foster care. I'm a social worker and work with foster kids all the time. Pro-choice is anti-life, period.
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The women who can't keep their legs closed are the ones who don't care!! Let's start where it starts: with 2 people having sex. Either don't do it or use reliable birth control!! Put the blame where it belongs!
There is no such thing as 100% reliable birth control and sex is a natural part of life especially in marriages. Over 51% of patients who get an abortion were taking contraception. Even the world health organisation states that even if all women take contraception perfectly there will still be 6million unwanted pregnancies.
Ok, I will let that 11 year old rape victim pregnant by her 27 year old cousin know that she "couldnt keep her legs closed", so should risk her life by carrying a kid, because Kim thinks that 6 week old fetal tissue is more important than her ENTIRE LIFE. Disgusting.
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So kill it? Rape children account for .01% of births, total straw man argument. Babies get adopted very quickly, pre teens spend a lot of time in the foster system. You are wrong, please do some research and all your upvotes are based on good feelings not facts.
Adoption is not an easy process and can take years. Also not all kids get adopted Moron. Don’t know what the fuck MAGA is and don’t care. How many kids have you adopted?? In Australia alone there are over 40,000 kids needing adopting and on average only 200 are adopted a year. The rest are in and out of foster care or institutions. On average in the US it takes a child 3-5 years to be adopted. Sadly some not at all. Many abortions are done because contraception failed. And FYI I am stating facts.
Adoption has nothing to do with it. Abortion would be perfectly fine whether it’s rape or not. No need to even discuss rape.
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It's called adoption, Moron. MAGA !!
Adoption is not an easy process and can take years. Also not all kids get adopted Moron. Don’t know what the fuck MAGA is and don’t care. How many kids have you adopted?? In Australia alone there are over 40,000 kids needing adopting and on average only 200 are adopted a year. The rest are in and out of foster care or institutions.
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Then put the money budgeted for elective abortions into child services
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I don't understand... so you're saying that it is better to be dead than not have "the best life" (btw, who decides what's the best life?). And how can you so blatantly claim that we do not care for people after they are born? Based on what, except on your own prejudices?
I completely understand why many are opposed to abortion. But banning isn't the answer, as someone mentioned above, forcing women to go ahead with unwanted pregnancy is torture and violation of human rights. If you are against abortion, do everything you can to end/change the various things that lead to abortion in society. You have your work cut out for you, don't just try and ban something which is necessary and required.
Exactly. I personally couldn't go through an abortion. So I make everything I can to not get pregnant. If you're against abortion - go ahead and support places that give out contraception, support sex education - things that have been actually proven to lower the number of abortions. Banns have not.
I got pregnant while on birth control. It was supposedly one of my "safe days" too. I have no regrets about getting an abortion. The fetus was not developed enough to have brain activity yet. No brain activity = no life.
I agree that we need to provide support for young women including education, birth control, role models, job training, etc. to help stop the unwanted pregnancies!! That really would make a difference in slowing down the number of unwanted pregnancies. I also believe that the people making the babies are also responsible by making the choice to have sex in the first place!!b It's not rocket science that sex can equal a pregnancy,. It's not right to kill the baby because the parents cared more about getting it on than getting pregnant and killing the baby.
Even still there are scenarios where abortion should be allowed. Rape, health issues, etc. and inability to support a child
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Well, Kim, I'm so glad to hear that your life is going so perfectly. Either you are happily not having sex (to prevent unwanted pregnancies, of course). Or, you are with a partner where this is not an issue (lesbian, husband makes enough to support you and the kids, husband is sterile). Good for you! For the rest of us, life is not so perfect. You seem to be taking a very derogatory stance against women who have sex. It's almost like you think we are whores. You think we are poorly educated, have no role models and are unemployed. This really doesn't win you any friends, Kim. I have had an abortion. I was in my thirties, on birth control, in a committed relationship and working as a behavioral therapist. Why I had an abortion is, quite frankly, none of your business (why I was having sex is also none of your business). I had it done at 7 1/2 weeks. I did not kill a baby. A heartbeat does not equate life; a brainwave does.
I think people underestimate how heavy of a burden you place on a child that wasn't wanted. I've read a couple of stories of the people who grew up with that and it certainly wasn't easy. Many of them are scarred for life never being able to recover from the fact that their mother didn't want them to come to this world but was forced to. Their childhood is terribly difficult because of this. They feel not worthy, they're likely to do drugs, they have problems having healthy relationships. Some women are simply not meant to be mothers. Don't have the capacity. And some of these women do get pregnant. But they all should have the choice to make the decision not to continue the pregnancy. And if you're wondering how I would feel if I was the fetus being aborted - I wouldn't know about it. And if my mother didn't wish for me to be born for any reason, I'd be all for her to make that decision. The new laws in Georgia break my heart.
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That is why there is a thing called adoption
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ADOPTION!!!!! Adoption is great, I speak from experience. Mothers of aborted baby’s don’t share this side of the story so it’s unknown. Once you have a kid, after you’ve aborted, can you honestly think, “ya it was a great idea to kill a fetus like this” no you can’t. Don’t say you can cause your lieing. You have a right to your own opinion and I know humans don’t care about anyone but themselves but we can still try. If you’re not ready don’t have premarital sex. It’s not rocket science
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That is the fault of the 2 people who decided to have sex. That is where that burden lies. The unwanted pregnancy is their fault and nobody else's. If you don't want a baby don't have sex. And if you get pregnant quit being so selfish and raise your kid because that is the adult, right thing to do instead of aborting it or abandoning it in the world.
Don't have sex? Do you have any idea about the real world at all? Go back under that rock.
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You know I saw this kid on the street, he looked poor and no one wanted him . So I shot him to save him makes since doesn't it? Now he's not suffering, his mother now has no responsibility for creating him. We can just round up all the poor and un wanted kids and put them to a firing squad let's kill then all. Or how about we hold the people who are having un protected sex accountable. How about we start teaching our children morals, teaching right from wrong.
There is ZERO comparison to killing a living, breathing human being to a fetus who cannot survive outside the womb, has no identity, has no brain function to understand what is going on etc etc etc. That argument is just ridiculous. And you do know that people fall pregnant all the time whilst using contraception, because contraception can fail.
@Merle Stroud Your overly dramatic comment has completely missed the point by such a wide margin.
Quick decision, you're holding a petri dish with embryos in one hand and an actual living child in the other. You can only save one, which one are you choosing? That's about how much sense what you said made. There is a huge difference between being killed and never being born.
You are a self righteous 4ss and can shove your entire false equivalence fallacy where it inconveniences you the most. Thank you for your time.