ADVERTISEMENT

A good way to approach dating is to consider what you bring to the table (sometimes literally) but way too often, people think that they can put in zero effort and get their dream partner just because they feel like it.

So we’ve gathered some of the best posts from this Facebook group dedicated to men vastly overestimating their market value and getting shamed for it online. Get comfortable as you scroll through, brace yourself for some truly hot takes, upvote your favorites and be sure to share your own stories and examples in the comments down below.

More info: Facebook

RELATED:
    #2

    Social media post discussing male loneliness epidemic and personal responsibility

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Luke || Kira (he/she)
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Like that principal Skinner meme. "Am I lonely because I'm an unlikable, misogynistic loser? No, it's my chin angle."

    View more comments

    There is a well-documented psychological phenomenon called the Lake Wobegon effect, named after Garrison Keillor's fictional town where "all the women are strong, all the men are good-looking, and all the children are above average." The idea is simple: most people believe they are above average in ways that are statistically impossible.

    ADVERTISEMENT

    Research published by psychological scientists has consistently shown that this bias is particularly strong in men when it comes to self-assessed attractiveness and social desirability. The dating market, as it turns out, is one of the sharpest mirrors this bias has ever been held up to.

    ADVERTISEMENT

    Data from dating apps tells a story that many men would rather not hear. A widely circulated analysis of OKCupid's own user data found that women rated approximately 80 percent of men as below average in attractiveness. Men, meanwhile, rated women on a much more even bell curve.

    ADVERTISEMENT
    #7

    Screenshot of tweet about girlfriend failing relationship test and breakup with market value keyword

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    merlin
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You deserve to be single. What you're looking for is a maid and not a gf

    View more comments
    ADVERTISEMENT

    This is not necessarily a statement about physical looks alone. It reflects the full package that women are evaluating, including how a man presents himself, communicates, and carries himself in a profile. The gap between how men perceive themselves and how they are actually perceived is not a small rounding error. It is enormous.

    ADVERTISEMENT
    #12

    Twitter post about ex-wife's change after divorce with market value context

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Let's see, what was the catalyst for the change? Hmm... what got removed from her life? Hmm... a mystery indeed! XD

    View more comments

    Part of the reason for this gap is that men are rarely given honest feedback. Social dynamics tend to protect male egos in ways that do not extend equally to women. A man who strikes out repeatedly may be told he is "too good for her" or that women "don't know what they're missing," rather than receiving any constructive insight.

    ADVERTISEMENT
    #13

    Dating profile self-summary about open relationships and postpartum jail period explained

    This is probably the most disgusting interaction I've ever had with a man. I didn't just see red, I was transported straight to hell

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Val
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Recovering from making a human, how rude of us to feel pain.

    View more comments

    This absence of honest mirrors means that unrealistic self-assessments go unchallenged for years, sometimes decades. Psychologists refer to this as a feedback vacuum, and dating coaches have written about it extensively. There is also a cultural script problem. Many men grew up absorbing media that told them the average, everyday guy was entitled to a partner who looked like a movie star, as long as he was funny or had a good heart.

    Never miss a story that brings joy to the world. Follow on Google News

    #18

    Man responds with face selfie to comment on conservative and liberal women attractiveness

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Luke || Kira (he/she)
    Community Member
    22 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I really hate to generalize like this, but it's almost 100% from my experience that progressive women are STRIKINGLY beautiful, easy-going and with contagious zest for life, while conservative women seem to always look like someone farted straight into their faces (even though they're not even really ugly per se).

    View more comments

    Romantic comedies, sitcoms, and advertising spent decades reinforcing the idea that men of middling effort deserved exceptional reward. That script is deeply embedded. When reality does not match the movie, it is far easier to blame the dating market or women's standards than to examine one's own expectations or presentation.

    #19

    Tweet about daughters, parenting, and competition among men for women

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wouldn't that just teach the daughter that men can be horrible, controlling, and cruel, and teach her independence and the value of hard work and of providing for herself? XD It seems to me that those are all qualities/lessons that these kinds of men wouldn't want the women to learn XD

    View more comments
    #21

    Tweet listing strict criteria a man wants in a girl highlighting market value confusion

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Steinem Sukker Rumpe
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    And if such a woman did exist, she wouldnt be looking twice at a babydick like this. Some men really do be thinking they can order up a wife like toppings on a pizza.

    View more comments

    Social media has added an entirely new layer of distortion. Algorithms reward confident, even outrageous self-presentation, and some men mistake online bravado for real-world desirability. Watching certain content creators perform supreme confidence while attracting attention can create a warped benchmark.

    #24

    Dating profile of a man talking about being casual and honest about mismatches

    Cheating on his wife and admitting he’s mass swiping without thinking while hiding his face… Don’t all line up at once! Women, stop giving these guys your bodies (if anyone is even up to that nonsense). It is our herd responsibility to let them go extinct

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    It becomes easy to believe that simply existing and declaring one's worth is enough, without doing the actual work of becoming a genuinely attractive, emotionally available, and growth-oriented partner.

    #27

    Close-up of unique black tile flooring with scalloped patterns causing installation issues

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Flat_Alien
    Community Member
    1 day ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trev, the amount of people who care about what you have to say is exactly 0%

    View more comments

    What behavioral economists call "overconfidence bias" is measurably higher in men than in women across a range of domains. Dating is simply one arena where this plays out with particularly visible and sometimes embarrassing results. When a man who brings very little to the table arrives with a checklist longer than a lease agreement, it is not a mystery rooted in some deep market failure.

    It is a predictable outcome of unchallenged overconfidence colliding with a world that finally has enough data to push back. The good news is that awareness is the beginning of recalibration. Understanding why the gap exists is genuinely useful, both for the men willing to reflect honestly and for everyone else trying to make sense of what they are witnessing on their timelines every single day.

    #32

    Profile description seeking loyal white woman and commitment in dating profile

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Luke || Kira (he/she)
    Community Member
    22 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why do I have a feeling that food isn't the only thing where "he finishes 20 minutes before anyone else"

    View more comments
    #33

    Screenshot of a conversation about hymen myths and virginity value

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Kristiina Männiste
    Community Member
    20 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Soo girls cant ride bikes any more. Gee.. do I still get to drive my car or will my uterus fly out from the speed?

    View more comments
    #34

    Screenshot of dating chat about personal questions and relationship doubts

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    KatInAHat
    Community Member
    19 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I'm sorry, you seem far too intelligent and self-assured to tolerate my nonsense."

    View more comments
    #36

    Tweet criticizing women who use foul language and its perceived impact on femininity

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Auntriarch
    Community Member
    22 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think I've used that word about five times in my life, but I believe the situation demands that I bring it down from the attic, dust it off, and use it again. This person is an absolute cûnt.

    Load More Replies...
    LancePoekinhos
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    sorry bud i like my broads to cuss like sailors

    merlin
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Go fùck yourself sideways Partridge

    Khavrinen
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A surprising number of men seem to be convinced that "I don't want" = "No man wants" and "I want" = "All men want", and are oblivious to the possibility that different people want different things.

    Gail Lott
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Fvck you, you fvcking fvckhead fvcker

    Elyse
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dale Partridge is a sanctimonious a$$

    Did I say that out loud?
    Community Member
    22 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh no,that means a cùnty àrsèhole like you would never be interested in my daughter.....anyway, moving on....

    A girl
    Community Member
    23 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The Victorian era called. They want you to quit embarrassing them

    KatSaidThat
    Community Member
    19 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    shut the f**k up, twatopotamus

    Crystal M
    Community Member
    Premium
    20 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Mange la merde, Dale.

    V
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    kiss my shiny metal a*s.

    Julie S
    Community Member
    Premium
    16 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the BP staff are probably weeping right now because they can't sensor all these swear words.

    Anna Stephenson
    Community Member
    19 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I’ve never been so glad I can cuss in 5 languages!🤷‍♀️👍🏼

    Riaan van der Walt
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Look at this farking guy claiming profanity for me. I bow down to your superior intellect. T**t

    Jenna Kay
    Community Member
    14 hours ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If you insist I mustn't curse, or be any of your other things, then I must advise you that s3x is off the table (I must be pristine), no lingerie (that's obscene), no touching my body (to do so would be vulgar and again, taint my sweet nature), no cursing in front of me (as it would be an afront to feminine nature), no dirty clothes in the house (I mustn't chap my fair skin washing them), no asking me to help with the yard or car or house maintenance and heaven forbid I work - as I might hear or see something inappropriate. So, when you are clean, calm, well dressed, not drinking alcohol or exposing me to anything that would possibly upset me, you may wave through the front door, as your presence would harm my tender nature.

    TFFFan328
    Community Member
    17 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Cussing is my love language...get the fu#& over it!

    Nikki Sevven
    Community Member
    17 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Seriously, dude, go fück yourself.

    Bianca Van Deventer
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'll f*****g cuss as I please, thank you very f*****g much.

    Phantom Phoenix
    Community Member
    Premium
    16 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think the truly sad thing is that not enough of these cocksnots' existence ended on a Kleenex

    Julie S
    Community Member
    Premium
    16 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Go fúck yourself.

    ChickyChicky
    Community Member
    17 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Stop it! :Stomp stomp stomp in a circle: Girls stop doing things I don't like!

    HelyerT
    Community Member
    22 hours ago

    This comment is hidden. Click here to view.

    I work from home for a call centre on webchat. I said to hubby can you make a mark how much I swear just for fun. He ran out of paper lol

    Lea S.
    Community Member
    15 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Lol, something tells me you don't speak for all men. But I'll ask my f****n' wonderful partner the next time we are talking (and cursing).

    Fibonacci•011
    Community Member
    18 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F.U.Ck OFF, you C,U.Nty f.uc.k - knuckle! Your feminist little speech is vulgar. You're not a Partridge, you're an Ostrich - go away and stick your d1c.khead back in the sand! Btw your head looks like an unused dehydrated ba11sack - complete with scraggly tufts of fur, matted with SHAR,T scum!

    Colleen Glim
    Community Member
    8 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Welp. That’s me out. Gòddamn it!

    View more comments
    #40

    Tweet listing reasons how a woman's rating can change instantly

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You missed your chance at ever dating someone who isn't a complete bore with no identity and no self esteem.

    View more comments
    #42

    Comment saying women can't make decisions and shouldn't vote on a man

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well, OP made the decision about how his facial hair would look, and that alone tells me that he isn't intelligent enough to make decisions, so he shouldn't vote either.

    View more comments
    #43

    Protest sign with vintage image and text about making women meek modest and submissive

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Men like this conveniently ignore the last segment of 1 Peter 3:7: "Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."

    View more comments
    #45

    Social media chat displaying awkward communication about market value

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Fire Singer
    Community Member
    18 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I don't know the full context here but her waiting for him to "be a man" and message first is just as much a red flag. Sorry.

    View more comments
    #46

    Text post advising about sincere approach in dating and market value

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Optimus Octopus
    Community Member
    20 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Had a coworker who kept getting advice like that. He got fired for s****l harassment.

    View more comments
    #48

    Dating profile screenshot showing controversial personal beliefs

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    23 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Am I the only one who is seriously turned off by a man not being able to write words correctly??

    View more comments
    #52

    Dating profile of Mark, 29, seeking short-term fun and discreet connections

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Laughing Orc
    Community Member
    22 hours ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I mean, at least he's honest about what he's looking for, I guess? Though it sounds like his partner has no idea what he's up to, which is obviously s****y. Also sounds like he might be better off on Fetlife than on a dating app, though...

    View more comments
    #57

    Social media post questioning women's self-respect and market value

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These people cannot make their tiny minds up. Either you're "too frigid" and refusing to put out or you're "an indecent slvt who needs to cover herself".

    View more comments
    #59

    Screenshot of a text message apologizing for leaving a trivia game early to avoid ruining others' fun

    I hate men…

    I invited a guy out SECOND date to a trivia night. He said he would love to go.

    We get In the car. Mind you our last date was a week ago, only texting since then.

    So I say “I haven’t seen you in some time, I’m happy you decided to go.” He proceededs to say “ya well it’s only been a couple of days since our last date. I just met you” (like boy get out of my car🙄) then tells me “if my social battery runs out I’ll have to leave.” Which I assume means he will let me know… and we will leave..

    He seemed really anxious when we arrived so I said: “you seem anxious, are you ok?”

    He said: “No, but you seem anxious.” (Ya.. BC YOUR MAKING ME ANXIOUS-)

    We sit down with a group of people we planned to meet up with, it was like a social group, I’m chatting these people up, he doesn’t say a word to me. We sit for not even 5 min, he gets up, introduced himself to another member of the group. Then left without a word. About an hour later I get this message.

    I drove him here… idk how he got home. Why men bro? Why do you think it’s socially acceptable to leave without a word on A DATE? Let’s just say I stopped swiping today.

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's absolutely valid and okay to have massive anxiety and to not be able to handle a social situation. Plus OP describes it as a "date"... but they were meeting up with a group of people for trivia night? That's more of a hangout, not a date, IMO. Of course the guy should have been an adult and told OP he had to leave, but it's okay to be overwhelmed by a social situation. Perhaps the guy thought he could handle it, but got overwhelmed once he was in the situation itself. Again, that is okay and valid, but he definitely should have at least told OP he couldn't handle it and had to leave.

    View more comments
    #61

    Tweet outlining a critical timeline of modern women's life, linked to confused market value narrative

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Dang. I must not be very modern. I had one boyfriend throughout my entire 20s, dated only one guy before him, and dated only one guy after him (in my 30s.) 44 now, no children, no tattoos, not religious, don't believe in God, definitely not the person who should be life-coaching others XD If I'm not a "modern woman", what am I? A cavewoman?

    View more comments
    #67

    Man wearing t-shirt with political and demographic labels, reflecting confused market value theme

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Beak Hookage
    Community Member
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not only is he an a$$ but he considers it something worthy of bragging about. His t-shirt might as well have only one word on it: LOSER.

    View more comments
    #72

    Facebook comment about female approval with humorous market value reply

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    LakotaWolf (she/her)
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, right, I honestly forget sometimes that we're a separate species from men!

    View more comments
    #73

    Text post discussing confusion about men's current market value and comparisons to FTM individuals

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Laughing Orc
    Community Member
    21 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    He seriously doesn't understand how someone who has first hand experience of female anatomy might figure out how to make things more enjoyable for other women when they're with them..?

    View more comments
    #80

    Social media post discussing men avoiding certain women and success with market value keyword

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Ace
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You are precisely the "anybody" that they do not need.

    View more comments
    #82

    Bumble dating bio of man confused about his current market value

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    JB
    Community Member
    19 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I didn’t intentionally add to my age; it happened automatically because the app AI saw my preference for mature women and rounded my profile age up to reflect my preference. Honest!

    View more comments
    #83

    Text message conversation about confusion on current market value and relationship expectations

    We matched on Tinder earlier this week. I told him a little about me and said we probably wouldn't work out because we seem to have different hobbies and status in life. He said he didn't really see it that way but we could probably be friends with benefits. He texts me yesterday around 2 pm and I respond, then don't answer for the rest of the night. The next day in the afternoon he's messaging me upset because I haven't contacted him in 24 hours. I don't message fwb everyday, but I have been answering everyday! Just not enough apparently.

    Cut to him saying "I'll just leave you alone." Instead of answering my questions meant to clarify the situation and what I'm missing. I think the answer is that he wants my full attention whether I'm a hookup or a girlfriend, and I don't like that. I hate when men try to make me the villain when I'm just giving the energy I receive. ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN S*XUAL. I was like "well I can't be s*xting all the time in public or around friends and family??"

    Tell me if I'm crazy or if he's being incredibly whiny about a situation he agreed to.

    Just in: "I guess I talk to my friends everyday so that's why." Buddy, fwb aren't the same as your childhood buddy Brandon.

    Edit: I just wanted to feel vindicated in my decision tbh. Sometimes I convince myself I’m being harsh when I’m not. I was never going to meet up with a dude that complains about me before we meet with no open communication

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Binky Melnik
    Community Member
    17 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    You talk to FWBs to set up the Bs. “Is Saturday afternoon good to meet?” All the other stuff about life goals, work, vacations, quotidien things are for people with whom you have a RELATIONSHIP. Mutual masterbation? No! Go away!

    View more comments
    #84

    Tattooed man profile seeking BookTok girl with dark romance fantasies

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Laughing Orc
    Community Member
    21 hours ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Again, he should be on Fetlife, not a dating app, if he wants to satisfy his kinks.

    View more comments
    #91

    Dating profile of man asking to be stepped on and degraded

    Men are so confused about their current market value Report

    Ace
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 day ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well at least they're up-front and open about what they're looking for.

    View more comments