What have you discovered that was a lie?

#1

Work hard, be a decent individual, and everything will come to you.

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Ozacoter
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Work hard and you will get a good job. Be nice and people will treat you well. Both terrible lies.

Tami
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Certainly there are no guarantees, but perhaps being a decent human is something we should do for its own sake.

Hann
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I find it is the complete opposite. Or it is just a lose-lose and only the rich get everything.

Loraine MacGinness
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

The LEADER ( who/whatever this is) actually CARE about YOU and your circumstances ??

Elliot Fowler
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3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

If hard work was the source for success then the donkey would have been the king of the forst not the lion.

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    #2

    "Respect your elders". Well, Charles Manson is older than me. Let's change that to "Respect people who have shown character and integrity. "

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    Hann
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Great and VALID point!

    Ryan Deschanel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "I happened to be born earlier than you, so I am better than you for some reason!"

    Hanni
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The practical side of this that if you respect your elders your children will show the same amount of respect to you when you are old.

    JASH80
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This, absolutely! While I do understand that aggressive behaviour in an elderly person can be due to them realising they are forgetting things/mixing things up which is terrifying simply being elderly does not make me respect them more than a young person. I will be more patient and careful with elderly people, but if you're unbearable, mean and entitled for no reason I don't care how old you are, I'll call you out.

    #3

    Money isn’t everything! You just need it to have a roof over your head….have food to eat….have clean water…have electricity…have internet….basically you need it for everything. Okay money is actually everything.

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago

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    you forgot: to pay for dating site subscriptions, to pay for dates, to pay for engagement rings (optional), to pay for weddings (optional), to pay for kids (optional), to pay for school for kids, etc etc etc...

    High Mamii Melo
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Don't know why you're getting down voted when you even specified things like engagement rings are optional!

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    September
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    3 years ago

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    Money is only everything if it's the only thing you have to get everything you need or want. If you have skills to get those things, then money is not needed.

    Tee Witt
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not only the skills but somewhere to apply them. A bit useless being a bushman in the New York.

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    #4

    That everybody can make it and get a happy life. Some of us fail at life and no matter how hard we worked, how much we studied or how badly we tried we get nowhere in life.

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    featherytoad
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Or you can be anything you want to be. No, you literally can't.

    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Exactly! "You can be anything you want to be"... Erm... Go f**k yourself. I am so disappointed, I feel cheated by society when they told us that we could be who we wanted but it was all lies.

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    @Ozacoter i've found the key to success is networking with powerful/rich people. That literally is all it takes. Nothing else works.

    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is very true. Knowing how to climb the ladder is the only way of succeeding

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    Rose Romano
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Not all our failures are our own fault. Some people want to do things that require other people to do something.

    featherytoad
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    3 years ago

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    Tee Witt
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If everyone "made it" who would do the cleaning, work at McDonalds and all the other nn-popular jobs?

    Ryan Deschanel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Luck matters much more than we want to admit, because successful people would have to stop bragging about their undeserved success, and other people would have to give up their hope.

    Sheila Sullivan
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    3 years ago

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    You don't "get" a happy life- you MAKE a happy life. We are responsible for our own life and our own happiness.

    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    rubbish, that is the myth americans sell PRECISELY so that they can justify blaming the poor and oppressed, many of whom were created either by their lack of social services (internally), or their endless wars over oil (externally). And before you say "money doesn't buy happiness", that is yet another myth. It's much easier to be happy if you aren't living on the street, being beaten by cops for loitering, and can't afford to go to a doctor or live in a house.

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    #5

    That America is the best/was the best. Truth is we aren’t and never were and we need to keep growing and pivoting.

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    Lidpras
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ironic how the ones criticising America are the ones who love it most rather than those who wave American flags and tell anyone who criticise their country to just leave. They criticise because they want America to improve.

    Rose Romano
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I lived in the US I complained about the US. Now I live in Italy and I complain about Italy. An Italian woman told me that if I don't love Italy, I should go back to the US. Complaining is considered a very bad thing in Italian culture. I told her that if you love someone or something and you see something is wrong, you complain so that you can fix it. She didn't get it. So I made an analogy. Let's say you have a child who is sick. One parent just ignores it. The other parent brings the child to a doctor and tells the doctor his symptoms, a form of complaining. Which parent do you think loves the child more? She got it.

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    Elizabeth Spalding
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ethnocentricity and American Exceptionalism. Ethnocentric: his or her own nation or group is the cultural center of the world. American Exceptionalism: the idea that the United States is inherently different from other nations. ... being perceived both domestically and internationally as superior to other nations or having a unique mission to transform the world

    Sawyer Kidder
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think were going ion the wrong direction

    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-ranks-27th-for-healthcare-and-education-2018-9

    BORKADYMUSIC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ikr?! America is a mess. I live here. I know that.

    M kay
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Venezuela is looking for you

    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    To congratulate the OP for pointing out the truth I assume.

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    bumble bee
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Through out human history there has never been a country like the US, nor has as its principles that everyone is equal, and regardless of where anyone has come from can achieve. We are far from perfect, do some pretty horrible things, but our foundation as put forth strives to always be better. No other country can even begin to state this claim.

    #6

    That if you fail to adapt to the norms of society, you are somewhat less worthy and it's you, as an individual, to blame.

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    HarriMissesScotland
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When people call me weird, I say, "Thank you."

    Brionna Knapp
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do that too! It makes them do a double take and really think about what they are saying. Probably because they don't understand why you think it is a compliment but it is. Normal is just a setting on a dryer or a washing machine, not a word to describe a individual. Normal isn't even the same for everyone so it can't be a be all and end all for everything.

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    Who Panda 420
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True I've learned they're is not really a societal Norm. But we continue to try to achieve it

    Whowhatwherewhy?
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I've always gone against the wind. I can't stand being or having to be normal. If you see a weed in the yard, I see a flower. I love thunderstorms, that's some of the best sleep I get.

    #7

    That, as a woman, I will for sure eventually want to have kids. And that if I don’t, I will never feel truly happy and fulfilled.

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As a woman it is sad how we are still seen as breeding cattle by most of society. Its ridiculous how everybody believes that they know better than you when it comes to being childfree.

    Thorfin Wolfsbane
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Someone asked me if I have kids, so I responded with another question: “do I LOOK stupid?”

    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is a big job I will accept that but as someone with a doctorate, a powerful job, a great income, and basically a perfect life at the moment, I can say that nothing comes close to the joy I feel when I see my kids and watch them develop. But I totally do not judge you at all, a lot of people do not want that responsibility, and a lot of people think we don't need more people. Ironically, the people who are smart enough to understand their environmental impact, and their global responsibility, are precisely those who say they do not want kids, so we end up in idiocracy: the ones who do not care about their impact are the ones making more kids, in general.

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    BORKADYMUSIC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ikr?! My parents still see me as a girl and often say “WHEN you have kids….” it’s awful. I don’t want to have kids.

    sturmwesen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I met my ethics teacher after a decade. After a rant because of annoying kids he told me mine will be the same. Now, 10 years or so later I pointed to my dog after he asked if my kids were any different. "I think he is pretty well behaved" (yeah I know canine companions don't count...)

    Whowhatwherewhy?
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My husband and I didn't want kids. We agreed that if we ever changed our minds it would be a decision we would would make together. We never changed our minds. Still married 37 years now.

    High Mamii Melo
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ugh. I hate it when people say I will change my mind. Thanks, I wasn't going to, and now I'm going to make a point of not changing it just because you said I would.

    #8

    The school will help you when you're bullied

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    Harry pottsh
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Omfg this is so true my friend in the 5th grade was asked for nudes by a peer and she went to my teacher and the guidance counselor and they said " Oh WeLl ThEreS No Documentation AnD NO PrOFF HaHa sorry " like this is your job! You can't give two sh!ts about this 11 yo girl getting sexualy harrased!

    Rose Romano
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The stupidest advice I ever heard adults give children is to ignore a bully if he tries to pick a fight with you. They say that he only wants to hurt you and if you ignore him he'll think he's not hurting you and give up. But bullies have emotional problems and they're not necessarily stupid. They just want to hurt you without suffering any consequences. I always looked wimpy and girls would always pick fights with me. I always fought back. No one ever started a fight with me more than once.

    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The way to resolve bullying is to stop the artificial "Grades" system where kids are separated by age. If you put a group of kids together with a range of ages, and give the older ones responsibilities to teach and help the younger kids, they stop trying to get self-esteem through bullying and they start to show leadership and get respect from the younger kids, naturally. Source: Maria Montessori.

    Gariss baun
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is sooooo true I was bullied from preschool through first grade and the head bully’s mother was the kindergarten teacher at the private school so her and her friends got away with just saying a whimpy apology the only way I got out was going to a public school

    Peej Maybe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sad to hear this. I despise bullying in all its forms but I particularly despise when schools turn a blind eye to it, particularly if the bully's parents are rich assholes who slip the school some under-the-counter funding to hush stuff up

    WatermelonTheDutchie
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    oh yeah b******t. and the counselors are useless homophobic shits too.

    BORKADYMUSIC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    School systems do nothing when a kid gets bullied. I never told anyone I was being bullied until I’d left that school because my friend reported some bullying to the school and it never got fixed or addressed at all.

    #9

    You can be/do anything when you grow up. B.S. - I've been training for years and I am still no closer to being a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle!

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    Rose Romano
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    A writer, I don't remember her name, from more than 100 years ago, once said that it's never too late to make your dreams come true. What if you're an 85-year-old woman who always wanted to be a ballerina?

    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I said this above and I'll say it again here. The key to getting what you want is identifying WHO can get you there and making friends with them. Really.

    Rose Romano
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That's usually true and it sucks. But it depends on what your goals are. If you don't care about goals that require other people to like what you do, you can be successful without knowing anyone. I consider myself successful. Most people would consider me a failure.

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    BORKADYMUSIC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Gosh darn it! I’m still not a dinosaur trainer.

    Zwiebel Suppe
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    No job offers for space pirates either :(

    #10

    You have to fit the beaty standards to be respected/enjoy life. Big boobs, tiny waist, impossibly skinny etc.

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    Russ Kincade
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Damn beaty standards. Damn spellin standards too.

    Rose Romano
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    When I watched scary movies as a kid, I noticed that the ghosts always went after young, tall, slender, blond, blue-eyed women with big breasts. Feminists complained about it. I was short, stocky, with brown hair and brown eyes, small breasts. It made me happy to know that ghosts would never go after me.

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    #11

    That it’s rude to point out when elders are wrong

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    Whowhatwherewhy?
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If that elder ( old person) is rude , obstinate, verbally ugly, you bet. If they are a sweet and kind senior citizen I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. Making it to a ripe old age in and of itself deserves respect, that's how I feel in my heart.

    Tami
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That is so nice! Sometimes older people say or do things that are wrong, but they're acting that way because their brain function is declining. There are lots of elders who haven't been diagnosed with dementia, but are probably somewhere on that spectrum and their brains aren't working at 100%.

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    Ryan Deschanel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These people are just arrogant bastards.

    Nicole Reid-Naziel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "How to Win Friends and Influence People" by Dale Carnegie

    #12

    (Biological) family is everything.

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    Ozacoter
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Also the lie that a biological kid is "more your kid" than an adopted one. B******t.

    Elizabeth Spalding
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Chosen family. My biological family has issues, the chosen people I view as family members are a lot more important to my well-being

    BORKADYMUSIC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes!!! I completely agree. My bio family is so messed up and I don’t know where I’d be without my friends.

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    Grant Hazzard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The blood of the pact is thicker than the water of the womb.

    Tami
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As an adopted person, I'd still like to meet some bio relatives because I'm curious about them.

    Community Member
    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just because they are not everything does not mean they mean nothing. Bio family has exactly the relevance we assign to them (like most things).

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    Ryan Deschanel
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Your family is just a bunch of unsufferable bastards whom you are forced to pretend you do not despise until you can afford your own house.

    #13

    How if we work hard we will be fine yet most people work hard and yet they have so many problems it's crazy.

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Work smart not hard. if you have a desk job, learn programming and scripting so you can automate routine tasks.

    Grant Hazzard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Then your bosses find out you've automated your position and now you're redundant.

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    #14

    That if you treat someone good they will treat you the same way

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    Tami
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Well, you treat them well." - Andy Dufresne

    JASH80
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    True. Not a reason not to treat people good any more but do it out of your own beliefs and not because you expect some kind of quid pro quo.

    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    People get aggressive if they are afraid. People are afraid of two things: one, that you threaten their income; two, that you represent an obstacle to them getting what they want (anything they want). The key therefore is to understand what people want and no obstruct them. Once that is achieved they will stop attacking you. If you mean a spouse or partner, leave them. A spouse/partner becomes abusive when you threaten/obstruct what they want, which is generally, freedom from you.

    #15

    That mental health originates solely from an individual and not the circumstances or society.

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    JASH80
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    for me my depressions were a combination of me being very sensitive combined with everything going wrong for me at the time. If you are insenstitive you won't react to the most horrible circumstances, and if you are "overly" sensitive the smallest derailment in an otherwise perfect environment can cause issues. It's always a combination.

    Llama King
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's also how someone reacts to a situation. Some will automatically want and know how to fix their problems but others don't. My depression was caused because I didn't know how to fix my problems and eventually didn't even want to try anymore.

    Grant Hazzard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Trauma is real, but so are skewed perceptions. Sometimes the mental health of an individual is solely based on how they perceive their world rather than how their work really is. Your feelings are valid, but it might not be indicative of your reality.

    #16

    Any of the lies we're encouraged to believe that imply a karmic fairness to life.

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    Burs
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If life has taught me something is that bad people succeed more in life.

    Libstak
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On this one appearances can definitely be deceiving. They may appear to succeed but are they actually happy and carefree? Or do they sleep with one eye open, paranoid even about the world full of enemies they have created?

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    UpQuarkDownQuark
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The belief that there is some sort of cosmic justice, I think, helps to keep people from striving for real change and justice here and now.

    Georgia Hebert
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Oh, I don't know, I've seen a lot of karma come to pass.

    sturmwesen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If Karma hits it just means a random event fits our wishful thinking.

    Kate Jones
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is my number one. People need to believe that there's some kind of karmic retribution to the wrongs that happen. Like, you want to believe that some guy who rapes children and gets away with it is going to get some kind of cummupence but the fact is they may just get away with it. I think this is why a lot of people are religious; we have to believe someone like that will pay for the lives they're destroyed if not by us than by some god-like judgement. But the thing I've learned in life is that..in THIS life... they might just get away with it. The things we see ultra-rich people doing... they don't feel any remorse and their punishments are often more money and 'retirement'. Some prisoners have it better than those of us working 80 hours a week just to be poor. Some people are in prison for crimed they didn't commit and they'll never see justice. It's so frustrating. And depressing.

    Tami
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Funny thing about karma, people will say bad karma is coming to someone who's hurt someone else, but then doesn't that imply that the victim had some bad karma coming?

    #17

    that it gets better

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    Tee Witt
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It does not, believe me it does not. May for some but.......

    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It can get better if you do the following things. 1. Leave anyone who is abusive or unkind. Family, spouse, partner, whoever. Ditch anyone who is toxic. 2. Spend all your spare time watching educational stuff, TedX, Udemy, Coursera, etc., till you have a way to get a better job. 3. Hang out with people who can improve you / who are more successful. Be interesting to them due to (2) above. Result: it gets better. IF you want to say "but depression" etc., yes, I had severe depression. The only cure is to do something. Anything. Even gardening.

    #18

    You need makeup to look good. (you don't really, it's just an 'extension pack' to one's looks); You can't do art for a job. (art is pretty much part of many jobs. Art isn't limited to just a paintbrush and canvas. Like architecture, graphic design, website design, culinary, book illustration, etc.)

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    As for the makeup thing, I don't understand why women still do it. For me it is anti-feminist to do it because although women who are feminist, who use makeup, say they are "doing it for themselves", it is manifestly clear that most men do not use it, and therefore, it must be a product of patriarchy. Furthermore, no-one "wants to look good for themselves", as far as I can understand this. I really do not care if I look untidy. I am not aesthetic at home. Yet, if I go out, I try look better. Why? We must conclude it is for others! Therefore, makeup is marketing.

    Jackie Lulu
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Some of us actually do it for ourselves, regardless of your opinion.

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yay for both of these. There's a saying from Churchill about why bother to stop the Nazis stealing or destroying art and literature. The answer he gave was, "well what else are we fighting for?" Precisely. What is the point of "Defending civilisation" if you do not value art? Civilisation is not just making cities. It is culture. Without art and culture our lives are just meaningless reproduction cycles like cockroaches.

    Brionna Knapp
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I look great without makeup. Makeup can just intense/highlight specific features of someone's face if used correctly. (By correctly I mean sparingly) And art is definitely apart of everything! Even the clothing industry has artists, how else do they come up with new designs and patterns for making new clothing?!

    BORKADYMUSIC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    “I want to be a musician” “Ok but what do you actually want to do? Music might not pay the bills” I don’t give a flying rat turd if it pays the bills. It’s my dream and I will suffer for it.

    #19

    That going to uni/college is super important.

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    A Jones
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It's better if ya' can get a scholarship/grant. Otherwise it becomes a big IOU mess in adulthood.

    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    in america. In other countries it is not that bad. For example here a course can cost as little as $100. You can also get affordable student loans that don't crush you. In germany they even have free higher edu.

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    Cole Grosso
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    its giving your dad a big mac or getting a realy good job

    AzKhaleesi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That used to be the case but not any more. Unless you are in a very specific field, it's really not needed anymore. I honestly wish they'd just do away with it. Let everyone get an entry level job in any field they wish and work they're way up. They can implement training on the job. Even doctors still use google and attend training seminars. If someone got their Doctorate in 2012 I guarantee they're still training and learning but they don't need to go get another doctorate. It's asinine.

    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It is important for the following reasons. 1. you get a bigger wider picture of the world, especially if you do a humanities course as a side course. I'd not recommend it as a major, but at least do sociology, politics and psychology, as well as a critical thinking course, as side courses, so you aren't a raging capitalist republican when you emerge. Remember jeff goldblum: "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they COULD they did not stop to ask whether they SHOULD." ... 2. You get to meet interesting people and network. I owe most of my good luck to contacts I made at university.

    #20

    That it always makes sense to look at “both sides” of an argument. Leaving aside that many arguments and controversies very complex are not simple binaries, many other arguments don’t have valid “other sides.” Want to argue the Earth is flat. Wrong, you’re a gullible fool, and you’re wasting everyone’s time. Want to argue that anthropogenic climate change is not a real thing? Wrong, simply wrong. Want to argue that white people are superior to people of color. Go f*** yourself, you have nothing. Often, the other side of an argument is just a blowhard fool or hateful racist or disingenuous pundit (looking at you, Tucker Carlson, you epic wanker) just looking for screen time or money or “likes”, and they literally have nothing of substance to offer.

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    yep. "Teach the controversy" is basically code for "Teach my version of fascism please"

    JASH80
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It does make sense to look at both sides if you want to figure out why the other person believes in something that has been proven to be wrong/incorrect. E.g. racist beliefs - sometimes the person uttering them is not really a racist but a lost soul who has been taken in by a racist group and would say whatever to ensure they stay part of it. Those can be helped. if you are really just convinced you are better because you happened to be born into a specific skin colour then yes, there is no use argueing.

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I should have specified that I’m essentially talking about media. About how common it is to try to present both sides of an otherwise ridiculous argument. Like having a vaccine debate between an epidemiologist and a QAnon homeopathic animal psychic who knows that vaccines cause 5G. In person, I’ll talk to all but the most pigheaded or hateful people.

    Ryan Deschanel
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    3 years ago

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    Sometimes, being a moderate relativist is not "wisdom", it is just cowardice and ignorance.

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    #21

    The beauty standard. We can have perfect Barbie and Ken lives in perfect suburban houses with perfect 2 kids if we just work hard. The beauty standard There are two genders The beauty standard Mental health is the last priority THE DAMN BEAUTY STANDARD

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    featherytoad
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    F the beauty standards. I haven't worn make-up on a regular basis since I was in my 20s'. I will wear it to special occasions though. I'm on disability now but, even when I worked, I didn't wear it. I'm not acne prone and have decent skin so I just never really saw the point.

    Cole Grosso
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    biologicaly there are 2 genders butyou can perfer to be called somthing else :/

    Ryan Deschanel
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    There are two genders. And they only depend on your biological sex. A man is a male, a woman is a female.

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    #22

    That you need big boobs, a big butt, a thin waist and a ton of makeup to look good.

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    DogGoneOlive
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    3 years ago

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    okay-? good for you, you don't need to comment about it.

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    #23

    "Help is always here, just reach out." Uh, hello? [crickets]

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    #24

    The more you have the better you are or the better off you are. Absolutely not true.

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yes and no. It depends. If you mean "things", then yes, I agree. If you mean money, then I disagree. Money can buy you the following: a decent house. Decent medical cover. Holidays ("vacations"). A wedding. School fees at a private school for your kids. A decent car. Reduced stress from debt. A university degree. Etc. Life is MUCH easier with money. Evidence: me. I was poor when I was 12. My mom had to choose between bread OR chicken, not both. Now I am very well off, and can do more or less whatever I want without obstacles. I am much happier now.

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    3 years ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not against money. 37 years ago, when we were just starting out, it was hard to scrape together gas money. Couldn't buy groceries or pay bills til Friday. That kind of thing. We've been on and off easy street. For us every time we had to trim off the fat, things got easier. Every time. I use to think that I had to have it all. Turns out I have more, when I have less. But to each his own. Live and let live.

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    Grant Hazzard
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Ummm, you're better off if you have more, better off is a synonym for wealthy... you're by no means better than anyone else, but you're better off.

    Rose Romano
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Better off is not always a synonym for wealthy.

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    #25

    That free enterprise is something positive. Not having limits or boundaries in regards to any company and its legal right to manufacture, market, and advertise literally millions a products that are manufactured and distributed with complete disregard for any impact on our planet and the lack of consideration in regards to the imbalance in the daily lives of (consensual) consumers mind, body, and spirit apparent absence of boundaries on the sides of the coin. In other words, we, the consumers, as well as, the manufacturing companies and or distributor etc etc just keep the supply and demand Loop going and go about our merry way spending money and or making money because we have free enterprise.

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The trouble with unregulated free enterprise is that the market does not quite control the prices. Rather what controls the prices are complex factors like perceived status of an item. Hence, even though functionally an apple device is maybe 10% better than alternatives, it's also double to ten times more expensive. Why? Because prestige. The only way to get equality is by managing prices. Furthermore, if we look at say microsoft, it is not because Word is the best, or was the best. It is because they got hegemony/monopoly through IBM. Once that was achieved, no one could be bothered with clarisworks or wordperfect or lotus anymore because it's a hassle to switch formats. So now, even if Microsoft tripled the price of Word, people would still use it. Hence, capitalism is inherently predatory.

    Richard A Petro
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm not sure if "free enterprise" and "capitalism" are the same but, assuming they are identical, when Adam Smith published 'The Wealth of Nations" in 1776 (And that being the "Age of Enlightenment"), he wrote under the assumption that even as the wealthiest boats were lifted by the rising tide of manufactured goods and consumerism, then even the poorest would have their boats lifted also creating a fair and equitable balance between the wealthiest and the poorest members of society. As usual with humans, things didn't quite work out that way as the imbalance of wealth has shifted the scales in a definite tilt toward the wealthy (With SCOTUS helping them along by judging corporations to be people) with the rest of us paying the taxes they manage to avoid. To paraphrase Lord Acton "Wealth corrupts and Absolute Wealth corrupts Absolutely".

    #26

    That owning a dog/cat is the same as being a parent. For better or worse, they are very different things.

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    BORKADYMUSIC
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They’re different I’m sure, but I treat my pets like kids lol I just love them so MUCH

    Rose Romano
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Do you treat your pets like kids even when they're adults? Even animals grow up.

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago (edited)

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    Yep. A human is much more complicated, and sometimes is irreparably damaged by just one harsh word, whereas a dog/cat basically will love you forever unless you are literally physically abusive. A kid also requires much more attention, training, nurturing, education etc. because it is a much smarter creature. Evidence: me. I have kids and I have always had pets. The closest to a kid is a dog, except a kid can be trained to not sh1t everywhere and clean up its fur and not bark for no reason and not pee on the furniture, drive a car, mow the lawn, fetch groceries, wash dishes, get a nobel prize, and and and and. A kid basically outsmarts a dog once it can start walking/talking, so like at 1 year.

    Rose Romano
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I have personally know animals who were smarter than some of the humans I've known.

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    #27

    That what you identify as makes you less of a person. * story time * A dear friend of mine has homophobic parents and they found out she was pansexual and had a girl friend so they decided they had to punisher her. And so they took her phone obliterated it then through ot in the trash and told her to break up with her girl friend

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If your friend is employable, and/or over 21, she should leave home asap and disown those parents.

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Unfortunately she isn't over 21 and isn't employable we don't what to do to get her put of the horrible relationship she has with her parents

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    DogGoneOlive
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    i feel like this might end up me. i'm aromantic and my whole family is completely homophobic.

    #28

    Pull yourself up by your bootstraps... literally impossible Don't do drugs stay in school get a degree and u will be successful

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    #29

    Families need to stay together no matter what. I divorced 4 yrs ago and my kids keep telling me they wish we'd separated earlier, both of us are so much happier now. None of us was a bad person, we just could not get along. I believe a civil divorce is much easier on kids than couples who stay together although there is no love left between them. And what kind of example would I give my kids, telling them you have to stay with someone you don't get along with just because divorcees are still somewhat stigmatised?

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    #30

    That we’d get our tax returns

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    #31

    That the only goals in life is to create more and more excess of stuff to fill your home, and buy bigger houses when you can afford it, win lots of trophies to show off and just pile on more and more stuff that you need to rent storage lockers. And that the only way to feed the economy is to spend your money on more stuff, get a credit card to build credit by borrowing money to buy stuff, and have credit to be approved to buy large status symbol stuff. But then you go into debt and society says now you have to sell, donate and forfeit all the stuff you bought, and spend the rest of your life paying off the debt you used to buy all the stuff you no longer have.

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    Faramir10
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Just because you own a lot of stuff doesn't mean that you're an important person.

    #32

    There's not enough for everyone.

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    #33

    The beginning of the "Declaration of Independence" when Thomas Jefferson wrote, "All men are created equal". He owned people, produced babies from at least one of these people (Making his children by her his "property") and, when the Constitution was finally written, agreed that a male person of color was equal to 3/5ths of a white male. I'm left to wonder whether he was just a hypocrite of the worst type OR this "Founding Father" practiced b********y; not great choices for someone featured on our money. Covering this problem with "that was the times he lived in" really doesn't cut it; 25 of the 55 signers of the Constitution owned people, profited hugely from the free labor and were loathe to give up this money making institution until forced to by war. Judging by the knee-jerk reaction against teaching CRT or the "1619 Project" in many school districts, it seems we haven't progressed very far at all.

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    Octavia Hansen
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Slavery has been the state of the world since forever. Decide what you will do about life NOW! TODAY! Every historic figure was a product of their time. Get over it. Learn from it. Move forward. Don't do what they did. This is criticizing history. So what? Do you vote? Charity work? Help someone? Don't feel bad about the past. Change what you do now. This isn't a lesson, it's just bitching!

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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Murder, rape, pillaging, plundering, kidnapping have also been around forever; none of them were mentioned in the Constitution either but neither was slavery. Let me fill you in on what I do; I vote, I attend town meetings, I give what I can to charities and I confront those who espouse "bad" ideas (Like "White Supremacy") face to face. "Don't feel bad about the past"? As William Faulkner wrote, "The past is never dead. It's not even past". He who controls the narrative of the past controls the present and the future and if you, Octavia, really believe that history, true history, is not important then you, indeed, are a "product of the time" and I pity you.

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    #34

    Pink is for girls and blue is for boys....

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    Remi Lanier
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    as someone who falls under the trans umbrella, 😳

    Melanie Hornak
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Pink and blue makes purple!!! My favorite color!!!

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    #35

    That Capitalism vs Socialism (a current governmental argument in the US, with the innuendo that socialism equals communism) equates that only Capitalism is the real answer. (Note: They aren't mutually exclusive and can work together as they do in many European countries for the benefit of all. Why can't we tax the rich for universal healthcare and free education? In 2020, should Amazon only have had to pay $162 million in federal income, or about 1.2 percent of its $13.9 billion of pre-tax income, as CNBC reported at the time?)

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    #36

    If you work hard and give that little extra as well the boss with take notice and compensate accordingly. Turns out it's b******t and all they want is more.

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    Elizabeth VanDyke
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The harder you work, the more they expect.

    #37

    That everyone else is happy / successful / winning at life. Truth is, we all have our own pain and struggles. No one is happy all the time.

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    #38

    That you need a job to live.

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    ZAPanda
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Well true, you could be eating in nature like birds do. But we usually call such people "homeless people". Unfortunately, unless you are a whizkid at stocks, cryptos, or are a trust fund baby, nah, you need a job.

    AzKhaleesi
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yea that one is absolutely true. No job = no money. No money = no food, shelter, clothing etc.

    DogGoneOlive
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    3 years ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    in California, yes, yes you do.