Be nice y’all. Please ask genuine questions and don’t be mean to others unless they’re a troll. Trolls will be reported and banned.
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Just wanted to say thank you for such a cool article. I have learned a lot.
Same, this post makes me happy in several unexplainable ways
Agreed! It sucks not understanding:/ makes me feel “homophobic” or something! I’m always willing to learn :D
@Weezy, I have a message for you. You have been reported, downvoted, and warned many times. You are making children, users, and people feel VERY bad with your God AWFUL transphobic comments, and your comments in general. Stop. You need to stop. Keep your opinions about the LGBTQIAP+ community TO YOURSELF, and STFU. Because the downvotes, warnings, and reports aren't working, I have asked Bored Panda to remove you. Some people think this is a step too far. I think it's just right. You are targeting people with your s****y comments and negative attitude. You have made me feel HORRIBLE about my gender and sexual identity. You have made US feel HORRIBLE because clearly, you have nothing better to do than target and cyberbully kids, teens, and users on the internet when they have done nothing to you. I think you are immature, stupid, and reckless. And to all the people out there who are feeling sad and horrible about @Weezy's comments, I urge you to take control. Just know, that there are people out there who support you, even if you don't know them. There are people who WILL help you, and not post transphobic comments. And @Weezy, go to hell. Sincerely, Bluegal Happy Pride Month, y'all!
They’re most likely in a bad mental state and use BP and being a troll to take their anger and aggression out on us; or perhaps the fact that there are infinite genders is dizzying and scary to them. I honestly feel bad for them; clinging to their old beliefs because they’re afraid of change and these “newfangled ideas.” However, I am a very empathetic, nonjudgmental person that tends to see the best in everyone and give them the benefit of the doubt. Also, this doesn’t excuse their actions.
The fact that there are infinite genders is... scary to me.... cause im worried about accidentally misgendering people, not cause i dont like it, its just scary that i need to worry about it because of like.. you know... how theres a ton
Load More Replies...I wanna clip @Weezy's teeth with a rusty nail clipper, then force him to drink boiling battery acid. After that, i'm running him over with a steam roller.
Happy pride month and don't let wheezy bring you down. I stopped being non-binary for 2 months because of his comments. Please don't listen and say goodbye to the haters.
Are you back to being nb? Bc if your not, then I just want you to know that you should do what makes you comfortable no matter what wheezy says :) bc wheezy is wrong. and wheezy is stupid and annoying.
Load More Replies...I reported Weezy and their disgusting homophobic comments. I received a message back from BoredPanda that they banned their account and posts. If they make another account I’ll ask if they can please give us a way to block an user.
And neither should you yet here we are. I personally think one is better than the other and It's clear which I think is superior. ( Hint: Not you )
Load More Replies...How about you go eat some glass and then we can talk this out in an uncivil manner while your mouth is bleeding?
Load More Replies...A question for the nonbinary (specifically non-intersex) people out there: Do you experience something akin to gender dysphoria like many trans people do, but towards both sexes? Or is it more of a feeling that your personality does not conform to society's view of either sex, so you decide to be your own gender? Do you think that would change if society's views on gender roles was different? I hope that doesn't come off as mean, I just feel I understand trans people much more that nonbinary people (in the sense that my understanding of nonbinary people is lacking) and want to broaden my horizon. Thanks for your time!
For me, I was AFAB, grew up as a "tomboy" who believed they were a boy in the wrong body, back in the 70s/80s when it was NOT accepted/talked about; Today I would probably just be called Trans and transition. I spent the next 30 years trying to conform to society's expectations of what "womanhood" is, and now don't feel like I belong to either male or female. I'm too masculine to be "female" and too feminine to be "male" in any traditional sense. I don't feel like either. I don't identify with my body at all but the dysphoria comes and goes.
Thank you for sharing your experience! That makes sense to me.
Load More Replies...I am agender and it bothers me when I see "proof" of my gender, I guess? I hate my breasts. Sometimes it is worse, sometimes it doesn't bother me as much. Sometimes I wear binders at home, and to go shopping, if I go somewhere where I don't know anyone for sure and where people don't care. I'd really like to get top surgery, but I don't have the money for it yet. Same with my period: Hate it. I take meds to make it stop and wouldn't mind to have a surgical fix - but for that I'll have to find a doctor who doesn't mind "mutilating" a working organ, especially when I'm still young and might change my mind (I'm convinced I won't, but understand that doctors have their own concerns). And also, again, the money. Also don't like my hips - they are too wide. But I am fine with my vagina - it's there, there's hair and I don't have to see it. I suppose I might mind a penis dangling about down there, that might react in ways I can't control, so I am happy in that regard.
I think society's view has quite an impact. I don't like it when people treat me according to gender or expect certain actions/reactions based on that. Be it in the work place or with family. With my friends it's all fine, those people I can choose myself. But I'm in law school, and the lawyers and clients I've worked with so far have often been rather conservative - one of my bosses once asked me for a chat and explained that it is "acceptable" that I don't wear make-up and jewellry. It never occured to me that that might not be acceptable. And the clients expect different approaches to trials from men and women (more assertive vs tending more to compromise), and might select a lawyer based on those expected attributes. And my family is quite traditional - tried to pour wine once while my grandfather was around and got a speech on how that is man's work. Also hate the questions about family planning and kinds - don't want either of that, and WHY do you only ask me and not my brother?
Load More Replies...So, the term nonbinary can describe a large variety of different experiences, so while I'll tell you my experience with it keep in mind that another nonbinary person could feel completely different. Now, for me personally, I've never truly felt like my agab, assigned gender at birth. This didn't bother me too much in my younger years until I hit puberty. Puberty brought along with it attention to things I didn't want nor felt should be connected to me as a person. I don't think I experience this dysphoria as strongly as trans people do, but enough to where something isn't quite right. With a big problem being that I'm sure I wouldn't be completely happy as the opposite gender either. It's weird middle ground where I feel I'll never be completely okay with my body, but I can at least try to make it better through different strategies. If you have any questions, feel free to ask!
Ignore the transphobe >:( you are a very cool person, and good on you for having the confidence to be who you want to be!
Load More Replies...Personally, I’m AFAB, and I feel slight dysphoria towards my female parts, but I’m aware that I would not be comfortable with male parts either. I spent too much effort trying to solve the mystery of my gender so I just slapped an enby label on there
Ignore the transphobe; you are an amazing person and and we accept you for who you are :)
Load More Replies...For me personally, I've been through a few different labels in the process of figuring myself out. I'm non-binary and this is definitely the least dysphoric and most happy I've felt with myself because there are less expectations and pressures. There is no "manly enough" or "feminine enough" I can just be whatever i want, like whatever i like, dress however i want. it's awesome
I grew up pretty tomboy from the time I was 12 and even now at 32 I mainly wear men's basketball shorts with a girls tank top. I'm this weird combo of masculine and feminine at once. It's this weird harmony that feels right.
For me, non-binary is only one of my genders, but I've always felt like I was RIGHT as a girl. Back in 1st grade i started saying I was a boy and that I should always be referred to as such, but that didn't feel right either. As soon as I found out what non-binary was, I knew instantly that I was that.
This! Non-binary people aren’t “converting” anyone by educating about different genders, they just learn about it and be like, “hey, that sounds like me!”
Load More Replies...For me (as an afab) it was that whenever I saw myself in a mirror, I never thought "oh that's a girl." It just didn't seem right, and it always sounded off when someone used she/her pronouns to refer to me. For the longest time, I never even considered myself nonbinary until recently, when it just kinda came to me, and I was like "I'm not really a girl, am I?" I started seeing myself differently, and I'm a lot happier and more comfortable
Hi, I'm non-binary and I can answer your question. I have always been non-binary. I sometimes feel like I could be a female or could be a male though but I go with the decision that I am non-binary. A non-binary person can still have interest in other genders/sexes and if gender roles changed I would still be who I am (non-binary) it's how I feel. Hope this answered your question.
My teenage daughter has come out as bisexual. My response was that I didn't care who she dated so long as she was a good & decent human being, that she chose someone that was a good & decent human being, they both loved each other & treated each other well. How can I support her & not just tell her but actually show her that I'm supportive of her choices?
You already have. Coming out is one of the hardest things most LGBTQIA+ people do, after accepting who they are themselves. The thing is, we never stop coming out. Each new job or person we meet etc, we may have to come out all over again. She's shared with you something very hard and you've done what any decent human being would do which is show compassion and love. Showing support is a hard thing to do as it's individual to the person. For some it might be attending pride march with them, others it might be just being there to listen and talk. Best thing I cam advise is talk to your daughter and ask her if there is anything she wants support with, but just knowing you're there and are happy is most likely going to be more than enough
I think you’re already doing fantastic. I think one way you can help is by not treating it a lot different than if she had dated someone from the opposite gender.
As another bisexual teenage girl, you did an awesome job and you have done enough. Just show support when needed, but always remember you did the perfect thing when she was coming out :)
You're showing your support already! The fact that she was able to come out to you just means that she trusts you and knows you'd be supportive :)
What might also be a thing to consider going forward: when asking about a partner and whether there is one, ideally use neutral language - like when she says she met someone, don't ask about "him" until you know it is actually a "he". Sometimes that just happens automatically. I don't know what the situation in family gatherings is, if have those - do the realtives know? If so, support could be the same here: making sure they don't assume the gender of the person she might be seeing. But that is just one specific thing that bothers me sometimes, don't know how your daughter sees it. Ideally: just ask her. I think it could mean a lot to her just to have you ask (and then act on the answers)
THIS!!! you’re such a gorgeous human being. I guarantee you already have. If you want to do more, there’s always flying a flag, or attending pride marches, or even just wearing an ally pin.
if you're this nice to her after she came out, you've already shown her that you're supportive.
I think one way to show her is not to ask her about every friend she has. Parents love to ask their children who they are interested but when a kid says they are bisexual, don’t act like that makes everyone as an option. And just remember it’s a part of her not her entire self. She is more than her sexuality. So mostly be chill about it.
Personally, I feel like you don’t need to! If she dates a girl, treat it like any other relationship. Don’t make it all special or different. It may make her seem out of place. Good job on u for being supportive. :D
I think that what you are doing works but you could also get flags/ stickers to give to them.
Hey everybody thanks for the chance to ask! We all know the guy who says "I identify as an attack helicopter", and we'll, it's just eyeroll-worthy. On the other hand, I have encountered people who consider themselves part of the LBGTQ+ community, but say/write they identify as an "android amazon" or a "happy samurai badger" or something like that. You yourself have probably seen more or less "weird" genders floating around as well. Do you ever feel offended by such gender names? Do you feel as if you're not taken seriously, especially if you are non-binary yourself? Do you fear such "humorous" genders may harm the community as a whole, as in "The LGBTQ+ people don't even take their genders seriously, so why should we?"
I do feel offended. Someone said their pronouns were "bun bun" (as in a furry) quite seriously, and that s**t drives me crazy because now nobody takes it seriously at all that some people experience a lot of gender dysphoria and yet don't want to undergo surgical or other biological changes for a variety of reasons, or may choose to be gender fluid, etc. and that is a lot more legit than a sexual preference for dressing up in animal costumes.
imo, zenogenders are awesome, but it’s the people who make fun of lgbtqia+ people (like the attack helicopter thing) who are the real bad people.
That's b******t. It's harmful because it makes people think queerness is a joke. It's okay to identify with a xenogender, but I'd recommend not being super vocal about it and just being chill with being nonbinary and using they, it, or some easy to learn neopronouns. This type of s****y person definitely harms us
I do consider it offensive. It turns gender identity into a joke and makes us look bad. It sucks
As someone one who identifies as NB I really don’t care but that’s bc I don’t care what pronouns you use for me. If someone isn’t taking it seriously or being a jerk that’s a show of their character and not mine. But I get that it can be hurtful for other people so I myself am always mindful of asking for pronouns and using the ones the individual wants
I wouldn't say I'm necessarily offended, but a little bothered. I'm old enough that I know the world doesn't react well to huge change. I know the trans community doesn't even like the nonbinary community because we're ruining their chance to integrate. I'd imagine most of the people identifying as something "weird" are kids trying to find themselves, and I completely support that. But I do think it's unfortunate that it's so public. Cis people need to be drip-fed this stuff, and we're flooding them, which is leading to the pushback we see in the States right now.
I think that xenogenders are pretty awesome, and if they are actually mocking the community, I can tell quickly.
i certainly feel anger at this misappropriation. it de-legitimizes the process of separating identities (gender, sex, attraction, sexuality) and puts people who openly share their pronouns at risk for ridicule- which was the opposite of the original intent.
I think it is really weird and don't understand why people say that? But then I am agender, and think it shouldn't matter whatsoever as what you calssify as - as in, no one should have to define themselves in any way and everyone should just be what they are, no labels needed. I do unterstand though that society in most places is a step away from that. So to a certain degree I feel that those genders make a mockery of the need to label stuff and itemize genders, which I agree with. But the way they do it (if that is what they do, I only really hear such genders in the context of mockery) is not fit for the society today.
Some people who say they identify as something don’t actually identify as it and are just being d***s. Others are not. It’s easy to tell, the community is beautiful and diverse. Infighting is what ruins it. Looking at you, bi lesbians. (No, not bi people. Bi lesbians.)
Hi. I'm sorry to say this, but I didn't know there was such thing as the LGBTQetc community until a few years ago(I don't pay attention to politics or social changes or whatever). I didn’t(still don't really)get how people can change their genders to whatever they want, because "they can be anything they want to be", or do it "because they feel like it". It makes no sense. I dont understand, but I'm trying to okay? My question is how you wake up one day and think "you know what, I like girls AND boys now"(or the other genders or preferences, you know them all). Anyway, I want to understand WHY, so I can learn to be more respectful and not be as judgemental(I was taught to treat people how I want to be treated, and I feel I haven't been doing that sometimes. I shouldn't judge someone I don't understand). People go through things, and I feel the Pride people get a lot of hate, which you don't deserve. So: *What made you want to change your gender, and why?* If this is a stupid question, don't get mad at me, I'm just curious.
it’s not so much as want to change as we are who we are, but like for me when i found out being nonbinary exists it made so much sense as to what i had been feeling my entire life
Exactly. I liken it to when adults get diagnosed with autism or dyslexia or something like that - suddenly you don't feel lost anymore.
Load More Replies...We don't just "wake up one day" and decide that we're gay or trans or queer, it's a long process of processing feelings and figuring out what they are and how to label them.
exactly! it took me two years to find out who i was
Load More Replies...Can someone tell Weezy to f**k off? You have no place in this community if your gonna be a b***h about the way people feel. Like shut up!
Load More Replies...It wants’t really wanting to change who I am, because I’ve been a guy my whole life, but I was born a girl, (and still am) being raised as one. You don’t really just wake up one day and decide/realize your sexuality/gender, it takes a lot of effort and time. Like for me it took a lot of time to convince myself that no, I was not just pretending, but that I was actually trans. I hope this helps!
I never really just "woke up one day" and realized I was a guy, or that I liked girls, it was always just who I was, and when I realized there were other people like me it was so validating, I felt like I wasn't alone. It was always a part of who I was, it was just hard for people to see me how I saw myself. Thanks for taking the time to learn more about us before deciding to hate, you are a better person than most.
Reported wheezy. F off my guy. No one's forcing u to be here dude. Jeeze. I'm getting A ton of insecuritie from your direction! ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ
It’s not that I wanted to change my gender, I just slowly realized it was what it was. Yes, it happened rather suddenly (thanks, puberty and gender dysphoria!) and I started feeling very uncomfortable with my body and how others perceived me. I asked my friends to mess around with calling me he or they, and found that I fit in the non-binary label. I didn’t decide I was non-binary because I wanted to be (in fact, I tried to force myself to “stay a girl” for a while), I just figured it out.
Replying to weezy: and if ur a dlckh3@d ur a weezy
Load More Replies...Assuming you're a woman, let me ask: How do you know you're a woman? When did you first see yourself as a girl? Well, that isn't the case for everyone. I always thought I was a boy when I was very young, and getting into middle school I hated that I was a "girl" physically and separated from doing the things and looking the way I felt. As for opening up sexually, well, I think everyone is bisexual on a spectrum: The Kinsey Scale makes more sense than thinking of things in binary. Sometimes I feel more attracted to women, sometimes to men. It can depend on the people I'm with, or the way I feel that day. Other cultures, e.g. the ancient Greeks and Romans were pretty much all bisexual, and Western Christian/Abrahamic religious culture has basically brainwashed us. It was the Westerners who adopted this need to categorize things, and split things into definitive categories. That's not natural.
Replying to weezy: ooh you missed one, weezy equals lesbian/goldfish/fart
Load More Replies...It's not quite that you just want to change, but that we found something that fits this feeling we've had. The case for me, at least, I can't speak for everyone. But pretty much, it just fit us and we found it a lot more fitting than what is more or less just given to us.
I think my only question would be for the trans folks that were in a relationship prior to transitioning. For example, a lesbian couple that has been in a relationship for some time and one of them decides to transition to male, including medical operations. Is the other non-trans lesbian partner still attracted to the other now that they are male? Note: I may not be using the correct terminology, so forgive my ignorance if that’s the case.
Everyone is different. Most trans couples I know broke up, but some stayed together. I have a good friend who identifies as lesbian and has a hard time with knowing what terms to use around her trans-masc partner -- can she still call herself a lesbian without offending/ diminishing her partner's identity as a man? etc. It's so complicated.
I dated a trans guy for 5 years, and then married another one (6yrs this Oct) - it was kind of emotional for me in both relationships as I adjusted to saying "boyfriend" and "husband" and the first time around, I did actually grieve my own queer visibility. It looked like I was walking around with a dude. Both guys were already out socially as trans when I met them, so I had a long chat with myself and ultimately decided that the person was so much more important than being immediately recognized as a lesbian. I struggled with my own label too, because staying a "lesbian" did feel like I was negating their hard emotional work. I walked around calling myself a transbian for awhile :) I'm not a feminine person, and I've never been attracted to feminine women, so the transitioning visuals aren't a downside. My husband was hairy pre-hormones, and now he's a cute lil bear :)
I'm not trans but i have a lesbian couple as friends. One of them transitioned to male and they seem just as happy as they were before, but on the other hand i knew a guy that decided not to tell his family he was transitioning so wife and kids got to find out from a national newspaper. they were devastated at how he went about telling them and disowned him/her for it.
In the 2nd example, did they happen to be a city manager in Florida? That was quite the story here locally and I believe made national news. Felt bad for the wife and kid.
Load More Replies...I hope you don't mind, but I'm going to jump in on this with my opinion as straight male. If my wife, came to the decision to transition to a male, I can honestly say that I would still love her (or him as the case would be). At some point in the transition, I would more than likely loose the sexual attraction, and that is the point where I would need to re-evaluate the relationship. But I imagine some people would feel deceived, because the person that they loved was not really that person.
Thanks for your input. As a straight female, I would also still love the person, but would probably not be able to maintain the attraction and be able to stay in the relationship or I’d at least re-evaluate as you said.
Load More Replies...I’m pansexual, so that stuff doesn’t really matter to me :) I’ve had crushes on people that changed their gender multiple times, and I still liked them :P
It totally depends on the people, and often how long they have been in a relationship. For some, it is a deal breaker. For others, they love, and are committed to their partner, and they will stay with them, and love them regardless. For yet others, they find them might be more on the bi- or pan-sexual side of things, and genitalia doesn't matter.
Hi, as for the lesbian question the person can identify as homoromantic. Their boyfriend just being the only exception. I’m sorry but as a lesbian we aren’t attracted to men, it’s transphobic on the trans part because it diminishes their identity. As for the lesbians it allows straight men to harass lesbians because they believe we are attracted to men. This website helps clear everything up: https://sapphiclabels.carrd.co/#home
It hasn't happened to me yet, but I've heard that someone has and it would be an interesting story if one of you guys have. Have any of you ever encountered someone who only supported their own sexuality in the LGBTQ+ community but doesn't support any other sexuality in the LGBTQ+ community?
Please see one of the posts above that asks where trans people and asexual should be part of the LGBTQIA+ community. Rhetoric like this truly terrifies me and is a form of gate-keeping. A community divided is a broken one. Everybody within the LGBTQIA+ community is going to have a different struggle. To say one sexuality or gender identity doesn't belong or is more worthy than another is flat-out cruel in my mind.
i would add that the exclusive nature of separation is the antithesis of inclusivity. we have fought so hard for recognition and acceptance and equal footing, and for some to say, "yeah you can't use *that* flag because cOmMuNiTy" is ...awful.
Load More Replies...Growing up around the gay scene in Manchester, I met a lot of gay men who didn't like lesbians and wanted bars to be gay men only. It seems to be more inclusive now but it actually wasn't that uncommon in the 1990's. So yeah there were a lot of gay men who were also misogynists.
There is the whole LGB alliance, which is trying to exclude the trans community from the rest of the group, they say that it is just to have a group focused on lesbians, guys, and bisexuality, but if you really looked at what they've done, it is all about trans exsclusion. "LGB with the T".
Ohoho boy. LGB alliance, LGB without the T, and Gays Against Groomers are all ones specifically focusing on cutting trans people out of the community and are best known. But I’ve definitely heard people complaining that asexual/a romantic people aren’t a part of the community either (they are.)
No, but I do know a person who doesn't agree with nonbinary because he thinks they're shouldn't be gender stereotypes, but being nonbinary isn't about that, it's about not wanting to be a man or a woman 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
It's not about what you want. I wish I was a woman cause it would make my whole life easier, but I'm a man and I can't change that.
Load More Replies...Yes. They are all different things and the groups have different histories, needs and ambitions, and are looked at differently by people. L and G often look down on B people as "having it easy" especially if the B is in an opposite sex relationship. And some LGB don't recognise the 'T', and some trans don't like drag as it leads to drag/trans confusion in people. I think they're all different but all similar in that they all get abuse from the same kind of person, and we're stronger together.
Of course it happens more often then people think. The pub is too gay or too lesbian, trans people are just drag queens or shouldn't be part of the gay world. I don't believe this but I have come across people that do.
This has always seemed very strange to me because drag queens have always been such a massive part of the gay scene in every city I've visited (UK). The vast majority of drag queens I've met have also identified themselves as Gay or Straight as well. I have met drag queens who identified as trans but not many tbh.
Load More Replies...There is one organization that I know, LGB without the T. It basically supports the sexualities of the LBGTQ+ spectrum but not the genders (as far as I know. Someone else might be able to explain it better).
Hey guys, I've been wondering for a while now, what's a good way to come out as a lesbian to a Christian household? Like, if others have come out in religious families, what worked really well for you? Thanks for your time! :)
I come from a Christian household and am a panromantic asexual Christian myself. I've told my parents, and they are 100% supportive, they don't see it as a sin as it's not. God's love is unconditional. Humans are the ones who set the rules. If you feel comfortable telling them, sit them down and just talk. I was really lucky that my family has always been supportive, especially since so many aren't. God didn't want us to hate each other over things we can't change and it's disgusting that this still happens. If anyone's Christian and LGBTQ+ there's a website called hope remains that can help with any doubt about whether your life is sinful (it's not). God made us diverse and I am so sorry that my religion has been used to hurt so many people over the years. Best wishes for you and your family.
Oh my gosh thank you so much for giving the website name. This is helping me get through this stage (post coming out). I can't explain how much this helps me. I have been terrified to be rejected, and this helps me so much. My parents are still a bit iffy, but they're becoming more accepting. Again, thank you. I'm trying not to cry :) it means so much to me.
Load More Replies...Thank you so much to everyone who has responded, it means tons to me that you would take time out of your day to help me out. I love and appreciate each and every one of you. 😸
i would say (having zero experience with living in a Christian household) that it is good to have a safety net of community or chosen family outside of your home, if possible. Also, be prepared for the greater Christian community to be divided in how it perceives you. some will embrace you and some will say *love the sinner, hate the sin* (which is hate masquerading as love), and some will open their arms and love you the exact same way they did 2 seconds before you came out. but find community that you can lean on, just in case. 🫂
I have come out to my family (not practicing but is christian) and it was just a "yeah im gay" "alright cool, we love you" basically. I also came out on a mission trip with my youth group, and it went well (at the most I just had to explain some stuff), but the church Im a part of is fairly open, and already has a few openly queer members (one of the leaders' daughter is a lesbian)
If it’s safe. I think you should know your parents belief systems before you tell them, incase something bad may happen.
This is difficult. I know most Christians that agree with lgbtq. Some on the other hand, not so much. I personally would be cautious but tell them. :D
My family isnt religious, not rlly, but maybe gage how they react when you bring up an LGBTQ public figure, or LGBTQ rights. That way you could get a better picture of whether it is safe for you to come out
Pleaaaaase make sure it’ll be safe for you still to come out. If they are supportive I think maybe it would be nice to tell them just kinda simple lol. I came out to my Christian friend with “Hey ____. I just wanted you to know that I don’t just like boys. I’m not sure what exactly yet though.” Now I’m pan and I painted the flag on the bottom of my shoes and forgot to tell her and she saw them as was like “Oh you’re pansexual now? Nice.” Stay safe tho babe
If you are interested in or might be interested in having babies in the future, tell them. The thought of grandchildren works wonders.
Just tell 'em Jesus was waaaaaaaay to close to his mother, had twelve extremely close male friends and just had to be the centre of attention. So they haven't a right to judge, lol!
This is more about self-discovery than anything, but what would it be called if Im only s3xually attracted to one gender but romantically attracted to every possible gender-? I'm rather new to this whole scene..
Some people may refer to this as a panromantic monosexual or a panromantic demisexual (demisexual is someone who experiences sexual attraction only in specific circumstances). Take time to explore and learn! You do not have to have your identity figured out it one day.
That would be panromantic and homo/heterosexual, depending on your gender. it could vary a little, but it's probably that.
Wheezy you are ignoring and childish. Maybe go to google and research the lgbtqia+ history before you go onto this safe space and post hate comments ت♡
Thanks, I think thats me.
Load More Replies...I reccomend looking at LGBTQ+ websites for lists of different orientations and see what fits you and feels right! But from what you described, I'd say you're panromantic, and then your sexual orientation would be heterosexual/homosexual/lesbian/monosexual, depending on which gender you're attracted to.
Thank you for the opportunity to ask! I grew up in a part of the country where the default when you are interacting with someone you don't know, especially if it is in their professional capacity, is 'Thank you, sir' or 'Thank you, ma'am'. It's just automatic for me after 50 years, and I'm worried about accidentally misgendering someone. Is there a gender-neutral term that I can train myself into instead of sir or ma'am? Or do I just try to retrain myself into 'Thank you kindly'?
I don't know the answer but I just wanted to say it's lovely that you're asking.
Better to stay neutral and retrain yourself to not use any gendered terms. I really, really hate when I'm out thinking I'm presenting all masc and someone "ma'am"s me. It bugs me for hours, sometimes days, afterwards.
Thank you, my intent definitely was to stop using Sir or Ma'am at all. I was just wondering if there was something gender-neutral I could use instead, for everyone, just because I have too much conditioning that "thank you" is always followed by an honorific. I will stick with "thank you kindly" since that's already in my lexicon and will complete the (verbal) muscle memory.
Load More Replies...I would just carry on as you are. It's hard to break habits and instincts. I think any decent person would politely correct you. Only an Ahole, would berate you for getting it wrong the first time. Although, I grew up calling everyone gender-neutral pet names, like 'poppet', 'treasure', 'China' (Picked that one up when I first came to London), & 'Puddin'.
If anyone wondered, 'China' is cockney rhyming slang, 'China plate' = 'Mate', usually shortened to 'China'.
Load More Replies...Weezy---JUST shut UP already! Jeez... why did you even come here if all you want to do is spread negativity?!
Load More Replies...Fun, gender-neutral things to call your friends (as approved by a transgender and nonbinary pair I know): Captain, My Liege, Your Holiness, Your Unholiness, Fam, Nerd, Peasant, or Ser.
those who are bisexual what made you realise that you were bi -a 11 yrs old girl from a messed family
For me, I didn’t exactly have a lightbulb moment that said “I’m bi”, I just always had crushes on both boys and girls. When I realised there was a word for it, I was like “ah it has a name”
I’m pan but it’s really just when you realize you like both/every gender(s). Sometimes it’s lil hard once you realize it’s a possibility, but I know this sounds really stupid, but try reading or watching heartstopper. If you poke around on the internet you can watch it for free, and my goodness it’s helpful for a fictional story. It kinda helped me realize feeling I didn’t know I had.
i also got a crush on [my same perceived sex], and felt like nothing was wrong, just like my crushes on [opposite percieved sex], no matter if anyone told me it was wrong :)
I thought I was gay because I only had crushes on girls, but then I liked a guy and I was like wait hold on what. And since then I've noticed that I'm bi ^^
I'm still growing but I've always had crushes on girls and boys but I'm 12! (Similar age) I'm still figuring myself out and probably will be for a long time.
This might feel like a really awkward and stupid question but... A lot of the people in our system use neopronouns and we want to know if it's actually valid or not? (Ex. One of our alters uses ghost/ghostself) It feels weird to ask this but a lot of the people we've seen on the internet are divided on this (sorry if this was already asked!)
I have difficulty with neopronouns. I am agender, but of the kind that really doesn't care how you refer to me. I am always very happy though when I can confused with a man and get to hear he/him pronouns, and I would be very happy with "them". But I live in a german speaking region, where most neutral pronouns don't sound natural? Not lik "them", I like "them". People I know use "them" is german as well, just germanised so that it doesn't stand out. I don't mind that, but I have difficulties with getting used to self-created pronouns - I just stumble over them and they don't sound natural. I think different genders should be natural and not worth any thought, and using pronouns that I have to consciously think about because they are out of the norm destroys that normalcy for me.
I understand that! The alter mentioned does use other pronouns aside from the neos, no one in the system uses exclusively neos, so it's not like that's an issue. But I totally understand!
Load More Replies...Its valid, but I'd recommend trying to get ghost used to using they/them as that's a lot easier for most people
Yeah, ghost also uses he/him as well when talking with strangers/lesser known people but I just pulled ghost's for an example
Load More Replies...Hi! Neopronoun user here! Neopronouns are valid whatever they are bcs they're basically it's you who's making them.
neopronouns are kewl. - quoth the one with one set of green day pronouns, but I use xe/xem as well as he/him, tre/tre is more of a joke, based on the drummer from green day's name
Some people are still exclusive/gatekeeping towards neo pronouns. They're really valid! It doesn't make sense to recreate gender rules after fighting so long, and still fighting, for gender freedom. I think ghost/ghost self is super rad.
Thank you! The alter says thank you as well!
Load More Replies...neos/xenos are totally awesome!! as a user myself, yeah theyre valid as hell
Use whatever you guys feel like using. Theyre your guys' pronouns and so you guys get to tailor them to your experiences and preferences. If someone doesnt like any of you using those pronouns, or calls it "invalid", it doesnt matter because those arent their pronouns theyre yours
This may be a strange question, but it’s for the gender-fluid people here; do you change your pronouns with your current gender or do you just use a certain pronoun all the time? Also for aroaces, do you hear more support or hate? When I was originally identifying as aroace (I’m abro), I got a lot of hate for it, but some support. My dad told me that I’m just straight and will like boys soon, and I got told multiple times that it’s fake. Someone told me I sound like a trash can. And feel free to ask me questions about abro and demigirls!
ACE here. Honestly I get neither hate nor support, but mostly apathy. I think it has to do with me being male - there's much more pressure on women to do their part in carrying on the human race or something. As an ACE male, I'm probably just another loser who won't ever get a woman and that's it. Whether I want to have a relationship or not is irrelevant.
I'm a biromantic asexual woman and I have been told by some people within the LGBTQIA+ community and outside of the community that asexuality is a mental illness which it most certainly is not. It broke me growing up and still breaks me. I think there is so many more people who identify as asexual, demisexual, and abrosexual, but are terrified to ever come out due to push-back and people telling them that they are not valid. Asexuals are at an increased rate of being offered conversion therapy to help "fix" them (hormone pills, pills to help with sex drive, religious camps, and hypnosis therapy). Furthermore, many asexuals have an increased rate of suicide for being ostracized and not fully seen as members of the LGBT+ community. I truly hope this stigma ends as WE ALL need to support one another in the community. We may have different struggles, but we all need to stand up for each other!
Load More Replies...I think it's too difficult to actually keep track of my pronouns and since I'm always okay with he and they and rarely any other pronouns (sometimes it) I just keep it as he/they
Ignore Weezy, we accept you for who you are :) <3
Load More Replies...I only ever explicitly say that I'm aroace when asked out on a date (or what might be a date? It happened frequently that I realised afterwards that something might have been a date, so now I mention it regularly just to ensure that there are no expections in that regard when going for a coffee or drink), but I'm positive my friends all know and they don't really care. They know not to talk to me about all that sexual stuff and they definitely don't come to me for relationship advice, and we're golden. My family belives it is unnatural, my grandmother in particular believes that people cannot lead a fulfilled life unless they have kids. So I never mentioned it to them and am not planning to. The LGBTQIA+ community where I live isn't huge, so they are focused on gay and trans people. The meetings are often a way to express sexualitly freely, and I've never seen as much sex happening at a party venue as when it was a LGBT-party, so I don't really fit there. I've never experienced hate.
Gender-fluid means that you have no set gender or that your gender can often change as well as your pronouns. The use of pronouns strongly depends on the person since some people just set their pronouns as one, like me or some people can let people know when their pronouns change which is why you see pins like "ask me" for pronouns.
For genderfluid people, some people use different pronouns for their current gender, some just stick to one. It’s different for everybody.
i tend to lean towards she/they more often, but there are days when i feel more masculine or nonbinary, so i will use whichever pronouns make me feel more myself and less dysphoric. thanks for the question!
What the heck is "abro" ? As for gender fluid, everyone is different. Some do, some don't. I prefer "they" but most people call me by my birth sex. Some people call me by the opposite sex, depending on how fresh my haircut is or what I'm wearing. Whatever. I don't care.
Abrosexual is the fluid sexual attraction between people. We don’t feel attached to just one or multiple genders, abromantic is the romantic attraction being fluid. It’s the gender fluid form of sexuality basically. I say abro because I’m both.
Load More Replies...As an ace, it’s mainly just apathy. It doesn’t come up in conversation much, and my friend asked what it meant and when I told him he just said “oh, ok” and the convo just moved on lol
That’s apathy?! I thought that would just be like not making a big deal about it and treating them like a normal person/not treating them different than anyone else or not singling them out D: have I been apathetic this whole time?! /genuine question; not trying to be sarcastic
Load More Replies...Ace here. I experience both in a technical way. My mum and dad don't believe asexuality exists, and once made me apologise to them when they found out I was complaining about them not believing asexuality exists to my friends. However, my friends all support me and tell me they believe I'm valid and a part of the community, (over half of them are gay). My mum and dad aren't homophobic btw, they supported my sister when she came out as lesbian and me when I figured out I was biromantic, they just think that asexuals are looking for a special label
My mum said it was my fault that my first parent broke up with me because I didn’t want to have sex. I have never forgiven her for that and it still gives me trauma to this day. As another biromantic asexual you are not alone.
Load More Replies...Personally, I'm kinda genderfluid? (it's confusing but whatever) Anyway I use any pronouns, but I default to they/them since that's what works for me most of the time. I don't really mind being referred to as she/her when I'm feeling masc, or vice versa, because I know that people can't see how I'm feeling. Of course, everyone's experience is different, so this is just mine :)
ace pandas: how did y’all figure out you were asexual? I feel like I could be ace but idk if I’m actually asexual
Aroace here: I was already aromantic but then I found out a bit later that that doesn't automatically make you asexual as well, I don't love anyone romantically or sexually and never really have.
Another AroAce here: I knew when I got to High School. You know how it is. S3xual jokes and all. Every time someone said something mildly s3xual I felt instantly uncomfortable. Plus during s3x ed in Primary school I blocked my ears and refused to do any of the classes. After a while I had a choice to not do it and I stopped. My mum wasn't happy but I learned a bunch anyways thanks to my brothers inapropriate questions. So yeah! Take your time!
Load More Replies...Well, I thought that attraction just happened at some point, like gaining an ability in a video game. After I was 14/15, I figured something should be happening, but I wasn't attracted to anyone, I'd heard of the terms aromantic and asexual, but wasn't sure if they could apply to me, because I thought I wanted a romantic relationship, and breaking away from that, and realizing that I didn't actually want to be in a relationship took a while. So yeah, that's how it happened.
Edit: no acephobia in the comments plz, I’m genuinely trying to figure stuff out and comments like “Asexuality isn’t real you probably just haven’t met the right person yet” won’t help, and they will be reported.
Update: thanks for the help everyone, also try not to post stuff about aromantic stuff only bc I know I’m not aromantic. My rule of thumb is gonna be “wait a while and see if it still fits me” but I think I’m gonna sit down and talk to my mother about it (she’s not homophobic/acephobic so dw about me)
Load More Replies...Jaiden Animations video on it planted the idea in my head. But I only realised it about a year after I watched it. My friends were making sex jokes and I was visibly uncomfortable, this was something that happened all the time btw, and one of my friends asked me why I never joined in with those conversations. I explained that I didn't know why, but I wasn't into that sort of thing. Like at all. So he pointed out I was similar to Jaiden Animations and that I could be asexual. But I had a crush on a girl at the time so I said that wasn't possible. However a few days later I asked a queen friend about it and they explained the difference between romantic and sexual attraction, which made me realise that I was asexual. And around months 2 months ago, I figured out I was biromantic as well. Sorry for the long comment
As a biromantic asexual women (someone who is romantically attracted to men and women but not physically) I found myself falling more in love with people's personalities, kindness, intelligence, love of adventure, etc.. I have to admit that I would get jealous when my female friends would hang out with other girls when I was younger and got deeply depressed when they entered into sexual relationships. It took me thirty years to figure out I might be biromantic ace. I loved my first boyfriend but we broke up because he wanted to have sex and I didn't. I know that some people are attractive, but I am just not interested in sexual relationships. Asexuality is an entire spectrum and encompasses people who feel little or not physical attractions to people who may feel physical attraction in specific circumstances. It also encompasses the agender gender identity. Some asexual people like myself are sex positive whereas other people may be triggered by sex. You do not have to have it all figured out as you always have time to grow and explore! Just be awesomely you!
'I found myself falling more in love with people's personalities, kindness, intelligence, love of adventure, etc' 80% of non asexual people do that as well. It's not a specific trait of asexuality.
Load More Replies...My ex pressured me to have sex with her. I never liked it, and i basically assumed it was because i didn’t like her, but as i came into my new relationship with my very loving and kind partner, i will find myself unwilling to have sex, and i don’t think that sentiment will ever go away. TLDR i found out through bad experiences with it, i guess
if you think you are then you probably are is how it’s been in my experience. i experimented with labels when i realized not everyone feels the same way, that people actually feel sexual attraction and it’s not just in movies and books or whatever.
When I found it that the term existed and that it meant I wasn't broken and had finally found my label! Since then I've discussed sexual experience with my very understanding sister and we would laugh at concepts that I had absolutely no experience of, for example, wanting to 'jump someone's bones' or feeling sexual attraction to a celebrity from just what you see in the media. My lack of being able to contemplate these experiences only confirmed that I was in the 'grey and purple' field. Asexuality is a very, very broad spectrum - my full label would be hetero-romantic, grey-asexual/demisexual so you probably can find you fit under the umbrella with a bit of research. I use the AVEN network, which has very useful forums. Good karma in your journey!
My friend on this site and in real life, LokisLilButterknife came out to me and said a lot of the same things you did. I’m learning that asexuality is still treated as a mental illness in many parts of the world and many people who identify as asexual are often prescribed pill or hypnosis therapy to fix them when there’s not anything to fix. I truly feel for my friend and people like you as I cannot believe how cruel and hurtful it must be to have someone tell you that you’re broken, that asexuality doesn’t exist, and that you don’t belong in the LGBT+ community. I’m trying to educate myself to be a better ally. I’m learning that asexuality is a spectrum and that sexualities are not monolithic. I wish you so much joy and happiness on your journey.
Load More Replies...For me I always got "bored" with people I dated very quickly until I met my ex...after about a year of dating with a lot of crazy s**t going on I moved away for university but we stayed in a weekend relationship that felt like a chore that I had to keep on doing because I'm supposed to have a boyfriend...I broke up with him several years later, took some much needed time to heal from a lot of things that went wrong and never really dated ever since...thanks to the evolving terminology I consider myself nowadays somewhere between demi- and aromantic in that regard. I also don't really have any interest in sex but some things can get me hot an bothered. But again society taught me that I should be secually interested in people so I kinda went along with it far too long! Nowadays I mostly prefer aroace as it's a lot easier for most people to understand than all the demi aspects but that's just me. Hope that helps!
Sex always sounded gross, uncomfortable, and most of all scary to me. I never wanted anything to do with stuff like that and thought it made me immature and childish, but then I figured out what asexual was and found I felt perfectly comfortable with the definition
I'm LGBTQ+ myself and I have a question. (For context, I'm Omnisexual, which means I'm attracted to anyone.) How does it work when, for example, there's a straight couple but then one transitions. For the cis person, do their feelings just go away? Like I said, I'm Omni, so I don't understand this. :)
I feel like they wouldn't completely, but they would lose romantic interest in them.
I actually know of 2 couples that went through this. In both couples, the man transitioned into a woman. The first couple I was made aware of, they divorced because the wife couldn't handle being in a relationship with a trans woman. The second couple stayed together. Their love for each other was deeper than the physical aspect. They chose to have an open marriage so that they could still have the romance/ sex that they were attracted to, but also "date" each other and are each other's best friends. I think a hetero marriage surviving one person transitioning has a lot to do with the couples personal choices about whether they both can handle being in the relationship after the change.
it’s different for all relationships. some may feel like the gender of their parter doesn’t matter to them, but others may think that they only want to be in a relationship with a certain gender. hope this helped!
I think that the person that did not transition might realize that they aren't straight like they thought.
I guess depends on the people but as an aroace I don't get it either lol
I'm a woman myself and if my partner would transition into a woman too, I wouldn't care. I'd still love him. However, I'd start having issues if he wants to have his privates changed, because I have no interest whatsoever in female parts. I just like d**k.
my spouse (monosexual?) and i (pansexual) went through a version of this--and no, the feelings dont just go away :3 we dont like to use labels BECAUSE this is such a weird concept to think about, but ultimately my spouse will say "i'm you sexual :)"
Personally, I feel like it would depend on the person. If I were straight and my partner transitioned, yes I would stay with them :)
My stepbrothers wife transitioned. His feelings didn’t change overnight toward them. He soul searched and came to the conclusion he couldn’t continue the marriage. Not even for the sake of their children. However, others remain with their transitioning partner both during and after transitioning and after gender confirmation surgery. Still others then end the physical aspects after surgery. It is not a one size fits all question or answer and can come down to individual people. It may be that the transitioning partner doesn’t want to continue an existing cis relationship. Very choppy waters to navigate and can evolve slowly or speedily.
Can you help me understand QPRs (queer platonic relationships)? I'm ace and demiromantic, so it feels like something I should get, but I don't. What's helped me most with it so far is someone who said people define it differently, like how people define friends vs. acquaintances differently, but I'd still like more answers if possible.
I think it would be typically defined as friendship that tends to go much deeper than what is considered normal, although it differs for different people.
It's just a relationship that's not friendship or romantic. Usually a commited relationship but it can look however the couple decides. There's no rules to them unlike romantic and platonic relationships tht have a set of expectations of how they look
So a lot of societies define a life partner as being a spouse/significant other. From my understanding, a QPR is having a life partner that you're not romantically or sexually attracted to. They're a cool form of relationship:)
Polyromantic? Panromantic? They’re my non-negotiables. And I’m a bit of an “identifier” mess. Predominately, cis-norm, currently heteromonogamous but with poly leanings with poly-heteroflexible (I am not against same-sex sexual interaction but not 121. The male response and acting as a poly-v anchor enables me to dabble) past. For decades I was asexual as a result of PTSD. My now-partner knew me in high school as a hetero mono. When we reacquainted and he wanted more, I told him I’m poly and discuss intimate things with multiple people for mutual insight and support in circumstances newer to me. People that helped me through my evolution to me now. He wanted to bail, stuck it out, accepts my non-negotiables, understands they have zero impact or influence on “us”. Even sees something one of them may like online and shares with me to pass on. I’m currently heteromono because of who he is and what he has gone through to let me be me. He is an amazing human.
@weezy, if you have nothing nice to say, just don’t say it. I don’t think you realise it but you aren’t making a point, just being insensitive and invalidating peoples identities. @Everyone Weezy has bullied, I am so sorry that they’re doing this to you. Your identities matter
Load More Replies...its like "Friendship+" I guess. its a spectrum like many things, so one couples qpr could be basically a "normal" friendship, while another could be closer to a "normal" romantic relationship. Its like, when you feel like you want to be more than friends with someone but you dont want to be in a fully romantic/sexual relationship with them
Hey I'm still figuring out who/what I am I like everyone but some people say I'm pan and some say omni what's the difference. I'm kinda young I'm asking to figure myself out.
Pan is someone who is attracted to any gender without a preference and Omni is someone who is attracted to all genders but has a preference. But you can loosely identify with one of them like I loosely identify as pansexual because I do think that I have a Preference for the gender I like. However I do choose to identify as Pan
AHH, this comment has gotten me thinking. I identify as pan, but I do have a preference... what does this mean??
Load More Replies...Pan is when you don’t notice the gender and don’t have a preference. Omni is also attracted to all genders but could have a preference. I think being pan but tending to lean towards a gender doesn’t mean that you’re not pan tho.
Ask yourself this. Do typical external gender identifiers matter to you? At all? If “no, it’s all about the who not what” - pan fits better. If “yes, who and what matter” - omni is a better fit.
Many people use the terms pansexual and omnisexual interchangeably. While they are closely related, there are differences between the two. Those who identify as pansexual feel attraction to people without noticing their gender, while omnisexual people recognize the gender of potential partners. Some people put it this way: Pansexual people are gender-blind, while omnisexual people are not. Even though omnisexual individuals recognize the gender of those to whom they feel a romantic attraction, it doesn’t play a huge factor in their choice of partner.
I'm trying to understand this. How can a pansexual person not notice a gender of, let's say a cis male? I mean, you can't not see it. I'd like to understand this better. I understand the omni that doesn't care better
Load More Replies...I would caution about rushing to decide on a label for yourself. You're "kinda young" and trying "to figure myself out". Live your life with open eyes and open heart and see where it takes you and want you enjoy. Don't expect to never change--luckily, life is long enough to see some pretty big changes! Enjoy it. I sometimes fear that discussions like this lead to people boxing themselves and others into pigeon holes and I don't think that is healthy on a personal or societal level. I think all this vocabulary can be a useful tool to learn and understand the nuances of the human spirit and on a practical level can be helpful in things like community boards and dating sites/apps but they can also generate confusion and separation in people only casually involved or observing (which can escalate very badly a la MAGA culture wars). But, I'm 1 opnion Give yourself love, time, and slack to explore and find out what you enjoy doing and how you see yourself. Do it safely and have fun!
I don’t know if there’s an official definition, but I personally define pan as attraction to all genders with no preference whatsoever and omni as attraction to all genders but with a preference
I know this question will seem mean, but it's not, I'm genuinely curious. For people who identify as a gender other than male or female, how do you know you are that gender? Like, what does it feel like? Are there symptoms or something?
I don't have the answer as I'm cis gender, however I would avoid using the word symptoms as it comes across as it being an illness and could be offensive. I know you didn't mean it that way and this isn't an attack, just a friendly suggestion to show being more of an ally or understanding person.
As a demigirl, the non-binary part of me feels like a void. Like something is missing or not fully complete. Sometimes I feels fully female other times I feel more androgynous leaning. It's a different story for everyone and can be difficult to explain.
Hi there! Demigirl here; I would describe my gender as somewhat feminine. As I grew up; I didn’t really fit in with the “girly” girls and was kind of a tomboy. I would say like how I know I’m a demigirl is that on a scale of Feminine———Non-binary———Masculine; I feel inbetween feminine and non binary.
For me it was mostly a series of eliminations (and realization that most people dont feel indifferent about their gender). Honestly, im still not completely set on a gender label (i use nonbinary since its easy and im under the umbrella), so its just kinda,, whatever i guess? I personally dont care all that much about the specific terminology used for me
i'm xenogender, and my xenogender is adjacent to how society views women. part of my gender experience is looking at how society labels how someone SHOULD experience being a woman, and going knowing "well, that's not right, but... kinda? ..sorta? but not really?"
for me, a trans guy, who uses xenopronouns, sometimes, I felt empty until I found my set of pronouns (he/him/his & xe/xem/xyrs) (the tre/tre pronouns are a green day reference btw)
I'm genderfluid but never experience being female, so I shift between male and nonbinary genders. It's confusing to explain, sometimes my gender is a just a big "??????" while other days I'm simply a boy! People do experience gender differently though.
I think we hear how it is to be LGBTQ+ most often from an US point of view. So, how is it to be LGBTQ+ in other countries? For example: Germany Poland France Spain Norway Sweden Finland India Japan Turkey Nigeria Kenia Ghana Brazil Argentina And others of course, just wanted to name a few.
i live in ireland, it is actually fine here, there is a few homophobes, and a few idiots in my class use the word as an insult, my friend used it as an insult but stopped when i came out to him. the only place i feel a lot of homophobia is on the internet namely anonomous platforms such as reddit and youtube. i have tried to stop using social media because of that.
In Hungary it is quite bad. Our government actively pushes laws and views on people that creates hate towards us. Some years ago they accepted a law to "protect children". They therefore forbid teachers and television to make lmbtiq characters visible to children up to 18years old. I literally cried that morning because I know that without sensitisation sessions in my school I would unalived myself by the age of 16. I had no oversee about my identity and was always told that this is an illness. But apart from this the youth is bringing a new dawn. It always surprises me how inclusive and open our new generation is. They see this topic -and everything else- much clearer than our government. There's a big journey ahead of us, but we are on the right track. I'm still afraid to kiss my partner in public or hold their hand, I'm afraid to come out to my parents. But I finally can see that it will not stay like this forever.
I hope things will continue to get better. Stay true to yourself and come out whenever you feel safe <3
Load More Replies...I'm from Germany, and things have changed A LOT for the better in the last decade(s) or so. I'll be 39 this year. When I was a teenager, gay was used as an insult. I mean there was a queer community, but anyone not part of it had incredible prejudices. That's what made it difficult for me to realize I was homosexual. I had learned that homosexuals are basically sex addicts so since I did NOT want to have sex with each and every female person and since my crushes were more about liking a girl and not about wanting sex... it means I can't possibly be a homosexual, right?! :-/ Anyway, same-sex legal partnership was implemented in 2002, and actual same-sex marriage in 2017. Being in a same-sex relationship is more normalised now, most people don't feel the need to hide it at their workplace etc. However it depends on location, people in metropolitan areas are generally more tolerant, but there are some rural parts (especially in the south) that are quite conservative so maybe it's not that easy there.
I am actually from Germany myself, so I do know the law, but thank you for reminding me! ❤️ (no sarcasm). I was more interested about the human side. Das Zwischenmenschliche. Gibts viel Diskriminierung? Wird man schräg angeschaut? Werden Kinder, die homosexuell sind von ihren Eltern aus dem Haus geschmissen?
Load More Replies...I'm queer in the Netherlands, and I've literally never gotten any hate over it. Maybe some inability to understand, or people who doubt the validity of (for example) pansexuality. But no hate and no discrimination. Which makes me feel very safe and grateful. - I truly hope we can slowly work towards a society where all people can feel safe. I love gen Z and millenials for speaking up so loudly, and all other generations for their willingness to listen and change. - Even if you don't understand, don't agree, or are scared of it. It doesn't affect you, so live and let live ✌️
I am happy to hear this. I have always wanted to visit the Netherlands and hope to go one day with my wife and wasn't sure how we would be treated.
Load More Replies...In Poland, you aren't allowed to have same-sex marriages (correct me if I'm wrong).
I'm from Poland and it is quite bad here :( I mean it is visible that times have changed and people are generally open to the community and change and wants to accept all people, but on the other hand the ultra-right group that is currently ruling country (and who has massive popularity even among young people) is absolutely terrified of change, they want to "protect families" at all means and apparently families can be easily broken by LQBT+ and "gender propaganda" how they call it, so yes it is tough :(
Load More Replies...I read a profile where the person identifies as a non-binary lesbian. Which. How is this possible? I truly don’t mean to seem ignorant. Doesn’t the subsequent lesbian aspect somewhat equate to recognising female gender identity as opposed to non-binary? Due to lesbianism being inherently girl-girl?
That means that they're probably more fem-oriented in terms of gender, but they still identify as lesbian. If they were neutral oriented in terms of gender, that'd be trixic
Lesbian means "non-men loving non-men", so as long as this person doesn't identify as a male or male oriented, they are still lesbian. :)
Load More Replies...A lesbian is a non-man who is attracted to non-men. By that definition, non-binary people can be lesbian if they are attracted only to non-men (Other non-binary people, women, etc). Don't worry - you are not at all being ignorant by educating yourself!
I’m sorry, I disagree with the wording you’re using. It feels like you’re bring gender identity into it when lesbianism has, for the longest time, had woman/ woman (biologically) definition and connotations. It needs it’s own descriptor imho. So as not to remove the descriptor from cis female-female.
Load More Replies...I'm a non-binary lesbian and we use that label because there isn't a name for non-binary people who are attracted to just girls. The term lesbian just expanded to mean people who aren't men being attracted to other people who aren't men
Thank you, Rainstorm. This makes the most sense as a reply. Effectively then, you don’t have a gender yourself but experience attraction to those who demonstrate female characteristics? Personally I am not keen on the term lesbian expanding because it does (and has) created confusion and I wonder how cis-women feel about the identifier being adopted/ re-appropriated. There is an argument it could make them feel their identifier has been made murky. However, I appreciate people in you position don’t have ideal identifiers and need language to try and assist others in understanding. I appreciate the perspective. Thank you.
Load More Replies...I know someone who is on non -binary and a lesbian and they asked me the same question and what I said was that it probably just meant that they were only attracted to people who identify this female. Even if them themselves don't identify as that.
I've seen it defined as non-male people who like women, but I'm cis so I can't speak for nonbinary people
I would think (and this is coming from someone who is a gay cis male) that it's due to the fact that gender and sex are not one and the same. A person's gender expression frequently aligns with their biological sex (meaning that people who are biologically female tend to dress and act in ways that we identify as "female", and same for male), but the way we dress and act is socially constructed. Men used to wear stockings and high heels and that was considered "masculine". There are many people out there who are biologically one sex, but they don't dress and act in the way that our society believes that someone of that sex should dress and act, meaning that their gender may be trans-gender, or non-binary (meaning they don't dress or act like either gender, or they dress and act as both). So this person is probably biologically female, but their dress and act is neither male nor female. I really hope that wasn't just a rambling mess
Well, lesbian doesn’t necessarily mean women loving women, it means non-men loving non-men. That’s how I have heard it described.
lesbianism can also be defined as non men attracted to non men. my bsf identified as non binary and a lesbian for a while (now they id as genderfluid and lesbian but ykwim)
If i remember correctly the definition of lesbian/sapphic is a non man loving a non man but I might be wrong-
No offense: but what is the point in “neo pronouns” or whatever it’s called. I understand she/her they/them or he/him. But Zey/zem? Why. Again no hate
I *think* you found my neopronouns confusing, and that's absolutely fine! So basically, neopronouns are like nonbinary pronouns but for ppl who don't feel like they want to use the they/them pronouns or traditional ones. You can make up whatever ones you want. I get a lot of ppl getting confused about this but it's absolutely fine bcs not many ppl have heard about neopronouns, glad I could answer your question :):):):)
as a person who uses neopronouns, just to fill a void that wasn't filled by he/him or they/them.
for me, they/them just wasn't doing it for me. I don't exactly know how to describe it, but they didn't seem to fit my gender quite right.
It’s just what feels best. She/her feels overwhelmingly wrong, he/him doesn’t really fit too well, and they/them doesn’t feel quite right, but xe/Xem feels like it fits perfectly
i'm not nonbinary but i read a comic that helped me get the concept. (sadly i forget the creator). but it said that she/her and he/him dont give off the same feeling, right? no pronoun is really neutral, not even they/them, because they all give off different impressions. so some people use neopronouns bcause they want that vibe as part of their gender expression. other people can use them for different reasons, but that's one!
You need to respect people's decisions on how they want to identify
? Woah there buster, I’m not hating. It’s a genuine question. I will refer and always have referred to people by their pronouns. If you want to be called whatever then I will refer to you by that, but I don’t understand some of them okay? Jeez wasn’t that what this post was about?
Load More Replies...Sorry if this seems offensive, but why do people have pronouns she/them or they/his, ect? I know they/them is nonbinary and he/him is male and she/her is female, but what genders are the combos of he/them/ she/them ect? It is really confusing (Especially because I can barely remember peoples names, I cant be expected to remember someone's pronouns.
I like she/they/him because it makes me feel seen. You're acknowledging my otherness. Just she/her (and for awhile he/him) keeps me trapped and choking. As soon as I asked for people to use a variety of pronouns for me, I felt very safe and comfortable. If you are my friend and unwilling to do this for me, I question your intentions toward my well-being.
@Weezy, what are you trying to accomplish, other than being a dîckhead?
Load More Replies...I use he/they pronouns because those are the pronouns are the ones that make me the most comfortable, it doesn’t mean that I’m not a guy, those are just the pronouns that I’m make me feel the best. Some people do have the identity of demigirl/boy (nonbinary and another gender), but that doesn’t mean that they have to use he/they or she/they pronouns, because you should use the pronouns that you are most comfortable with, regardless of gender.
Heyy fellow he/they welcome to the club!!
Load More Replies...Pronouns aren’t indicative of gender. Think of them like makeup or clothing; people use them as tools to express themselves. Typically yes, girls use she/her etc. but some people who are girls use she/they, non-binary people use he/him, etc. When someone uses multiple pronouns, you use both sets interchangeably
Yeah! I'm genderfaun, but usually even when I'm using he/they or they/he and sometimes even they/them I'd prefer people refer to me with masculine nouns (boy/man/brother as opposed to kid/person/sibling)
Load More Replies...I'm agender, and don't have any real connection to any particular pronouns. That's why I use all pronouns.
Hi there! I typically use she/they, because I would describe my gender as somewhat femenine. Like, on a scale of Fem————Non-binary————Masc, I feel like I’m inbetween fem and non-binary. When you see someone using she/they, or they/he, or she/he/they, that means that you can refer to them with any of those pronoun sets, like she/her or they/them. They are usually aligned in order of preference, like with they/she, the person typically would prefer you use they/them. As for what genders use multiple pronouns, it’s typically different for everyone but some genders include demigirl(me), demiboy, pangender, gender-fluid, or genderflux, if you want to look those up. Hope this helps!
Because sometimes you’re a little both. It’s often called a demiboy or demigirl. Depending on the person, some may want to represented with both, but some may not really care.
It's not offensive. It usually means that people use both they/them and she/her or he/him, but they might prefer one over the other or they might not. The genders are Demiboy and Demigirl: when you feel partially a boy or partially a girl, but not entirely.
I at the moment Identify as pan but I'm not sure if I am because I think I might like people of one gender more but I don't think I'm omni. How did you tell if you were pan or omni?
You can be pan (or bi or omni) and still have a preference! I'm more attracted to fem people than masc people but I'm still bi
I think you can have a preference meaning you prefer femme or masc but the actually gender doesn’t matter. I identify as pan but I like feminine people. Idc what they’re gender is tho.
* what their gender is ( I can grammar I promise lol )
Load More Replies...A question for the bi pandas. When you are in a relationship with, say a girl. Do you miss sexual interaction with a man, and vice versa?
ace/bi here, i prefer men, but sometimes am romantically attracted to feminine men and enbies. also, women are kewl, I just don't feel romantically attracted to them as often as men.
i'm the inverse of ya, because i prefer women over men, but i'm still somewhat attracted to men romantically.
Load More Replies...I prefer feminine people but sometimes I feel attraction to masc people, so no I don't really 'miss' it since one doesn't go away when the other is present yk?
Not really. I've never been much for having sexual interaction. Any physical interaction I have can be done with anyone I am truly invested and committed to.
I feel exactly the same. The sex and gender of my partners is irrelevant. It's a valid question though, and I do know people who prefer to have different kinds of sexual interaction. Polyamory would be a solution, but you have to be into that. I wonder if bi/pan/omni people are more often in polyamorous relationships?
Load More Replies...it's possible to miss it yeah, but because sex is such a variable action, it's possible to have similar experiences of one set of genitals to another set :) so long as partners are willing and consenting of course!
If your gender fluid how do you know when your gender changes?
I use a shirt as an example when explaining it. Sometimes I wake up, and everything feels right, like that comfortable, worn shirt that you have to wear around for work around the house because it's too worn and loved to wear in public. Other times I wake up and it all is just... wrong. Like that silly shirt that is too tight, and doesn't fit right and you just shove it away in the closet where you don't have to look at it again. Thats how I feel and how I decide which way to introduce myself if the situation arises. Does She feel comfortable and right, or does He? If I introduce myself as She, am I going to inwardly recoil because it feels wrong?
I'm gender fluid as well and love this explanation. Thanks so much for sharing it, I'm gonna use this to help explain to others in the future! It truly is just searching inside for what feels wrong or right. Though some days I wake up and I'm like "oh yeah I'm a man. Time to pick out which button up I wanna wear I'm gonna look so put together" LOL
Load More Replies...I read a book where a character felt like a woman when it was sunny or they were under the stars and felt like a man if it was cloudy/overcast. I personally am not gender fluid, but maybe something like this is how some people who are feel? The character said something to the effect of how certain things made them feel more feminine, and some things made them feel more masculine. Idk, please correct me if I'm wrong.
Loved The Toll, my favorite of the trilogy
Load More Replies...I tend to ignore it but sometimes I hear someone referring to me as they/them and I'm like 'oh nope I'm very he/him today' I never mention it cause I'm always fine with he/they, but it's a definite feeling when I get it. I do just tend to ignore it tho
I don't know if you guys can help me with this, but I feel like I'm agender. I don't have any preference of pronouns. He/She/They, it doesn't matter. People have asked me SO many times if I was a boy or girl (biologically a female), and I always answer, "Whatever you see me as, I don't care." My friend was confused when I told her it didn't offend me in the slightest, because in my mind, I just don't care. I haven't for years now and I don't know if not caring and not feeling like I have a gender makes me agender. Does it? I'm still super confused about this lol
Use whatever term you feel best describes you, but this reminded me of the term "gender apathetic" (there are a few other words for it iirc) which describes someone who feels neutral towards their gender and how it is perceived
I think cassgender is the one I know? I might be wrong tho
Load More Replies...Hi, and thank you for sharing. It really does seem like you are agender. Agender people see themselves as neither a man nor a woman, or both. They're gender-neutral and often are described as genderfree or genderless.
What you are describing sounds familiar to something I read on a webtoon comic about the different flags. I think it was Cassgender (gender is unimportant, or is indifferent from the idea of gender). Not sure if it would be helpful as a mircolabel. It falls under the same umbrella term as Agender and Gender Apathic.
a friend of mine is cassgender; they LITERALLY couldnt care less about gender, so yes you're correct :3
Load More Replies...It's the same for me! And I would say that I am agender. I really don't care, and didn't realize that there are people who do. As in, if you had to describe yourself to a stranger who can't see or hear you, how would you describe yourself? I don't think it would occur to me to mention any gender.
I'm agender, and your experiences seem very similar to mine, so yeah, if the term fits, use it!
SAME! Thats why I'm Agender AroAce! I just don't feel anything like that!
Would you include poly within the community? Does it make a difference if it’s a cis-hetero vs a cis-bisexual (for example?) Because they don’t subscribe to normative morays etc. The acronym is becoming so huge that pretty soon it could become one size fits all which defeats the original reason for it’s existence. Originally it was a clear place of refuge for people, but now even the refuge is becoming murky with in-fighting and trying to say who does or does not belong.
I include it, but I see the community as encompassing identities that not automatically assumed upon first impression. You don't need to come out as straight, or cisgendered, because they're automatically assumed. I've seen it explained better than what i was able to explain, apologies if it doesn’t make much sense
Plus that's kind of what the + is for, kind of like a catch all for the ones not specifically mentioned beforehand
Load More Replies...Personally I wouldn't include being poly, in the same way I wouldn't include swingers or fetishists; it's simply the way they enjoy a relationship. But obviously if a poly person is gay, bi, trans, etc, they are included in the community anyway.
i include poly because it's not the way society sees ""normal"" relationships, which is what the queer community is all about
Load More Replies...I believe anyone who doesnt conform to the cis-heteronormative belongs to the community, even if the person is still cis-hetero (ex a poly person like you said, or perhaps someone who messes around with gender presentation). Honestly, if someone wants to join/partake in the community, regardless of their identity, I say they should (obligatory except for illegal paraphillic content/people)
I see where you are coming from with the point being refuge for one group, but I think the point of the LGBTQ+ Community is that everyone belongs, Cis-Het people aren't a part of the Queer community because they have other places to belong, some of us don't
You just contradicted yourself. Point of the…everyone belongs. And then discluded people.
Load More Replies...What is it called if I only sometimes feel sexual or romantic attraction depending on the week?
That is ok and normal. You might be abrosexual, which means that your sexuality can change over time. some days you might feel certain attraction to other people, some days none, some days to all, and so on. this sexuality is very common and i hope this helps. you also may be asexual, which means you don’t feel sexual attraction. :)
LGBTQIA+ myself, why do people not really like xenogenders?
I just don’t understand them. Like, you can like certain animals, aesthetics, or other stuff, but when does that become part of your gender and not just personality? Like, if I’m a dog person and I love dogs, am I like doggender or something? Or, if I’m really into entomology, am I buggender? I feel like xenogenders are the product of gender being a social construct and not really being real, and so technically people can make up whatever genders they want and now there’s infinite genders. Of course I will always call people by their preferred pronouns, even if I don’t understand them, but it all just seems unnecessarily complicated to me.
xenogenders are more of an analogy than identifying as the thing itself. Like, spacegender is described as being voidlike and never-ending
Load More Replies...No hate, but in some people’s eyes it’s weird. It’s complicated too. It gets hard to call every individual person by something different. People get mad when you don’t call them by their right pronouns. It just gets complicated my guy.
They're new (relatively) and difficult to understand. Society doesn't like new things! There's always some exclusionary lgbt discourse occurring and eventually the fuss will die down (mostly) but right now it's an invite for arguments. I use some xeno labels, they're not my main ones anymore, but I still find myself on edge sometimes talking about it because people don't like what they don't get, and I don't want to get into any fights.
as someone who goes by xe/xem and he/him, people are socialized to use they/them, she/her, and he/him. but xenogenders and xenopronouns are the kewlest thing ever, in my humble opinion.
https://nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Xenogender
Load More Replies...Less of a question more self questioning but, can somone help me figure out what my gender is. I need somone who knows more to help me firgure it out Ok so. I want to use she they pronouns but want to be perceived as non binary. It’s almost like I want people to look at me and question what gender I am but i dont feel right using he him pronouns so would that just me she they or is there something I’m missing. Is that just gender dysphoria? Also I’m a female at birth lesbian :) Anyone have any idea what that gender would be.
Well, if you want to be perceived as non-binary, then it would be non-binary. You can have pronouns that don’t necessarily correspond with your gender (stereotypically).
Yeah! I'm Agender and most Agenders use they/them but i use she/her AND they/them.
Load More Replies...Oh my gosh MOST(not u Weezy) of you guys were so helpful in my understanding. Luv yall
you could identify as nonbinary while being more female presenting, or if that doesn't suit u, there's always pronoun pins!! <333
You'd be nonbinary, but you can still use she/they. Pronouns and gender don't always correspond perfectly
BABEEEE pronouns don’t mean gender at all . I’m a girl but she/they just feels right. I think I realized that when is stopped trying to so hard to understand. I just heard my friend use they/she for me accidentally and then they said “ oh sorry you use she/her, right?” And then I told her I actually kind of like they/them. Then he started using just they/them. I didn’t like it. Now I use both.
Well you could be non-binary if you want, but using she/they pronouns meant being a demigirl for me, so you could try that too
This is something I've wondered for a while now actually. What's the difference between Bisexual and Pansexual?
Bisexual is like you’re attracted to 2 or more genders but you have a sort of preference like for example you prefer women over men but you’re still attracted to both. Pansexual is like you don’t care what gender someone is, you still want to date them. I saw a comic somewhere where a pan person hit on who they thought was a woman but he turned around and said he was a femboy to stop the advances and the pan character said “does it really matter?”
my explanation is Bi people are attracted to all genders, YES THERE ARE MORE THAN TWO, TRANSPHOBE IN THE COMMENTS. Pan people simply don’t see gender as a factor of attraction. (im pan btw)
Bi is usually what you use when you are attracted to 2 or more genders. Like, you could be attracted to a selection of genders like 4 or 10 or something, or all of them, but it doesn’t necessarily have to be that way.
Load More Replies...I am bi/pan. I have always used bisexual since I became aware of my sexuality, but that was over 30 years ago now and pansexual was not a term then, in fact bisexual wasn't really a commonly used term. I still describe myself as bisexual out of habit even though I really don't have any preference for one gender identity over any other.
Bisexual is when you are attracted to 2 or more genders, but not always all. You also fall under here if you have a preference between them. Pansexual is when you are attracted to all genders, and don't usually have a preference.
The bi implies attraction between 2 genders. Historically, male and female. Pan is attraction to the person not the gender or sex. At least that’s my understanding. But this thread is proof that even within the community differences are appearing.
Load More Replies...Bisexual (generally) means you like both males and females. Pansexual (generally) means you like all genders. I could be wrong, so please correct me if I am.
i am Pan, and this is kind of how i see it. bisexuality is, to me, an attraction to both ends of the gender spectrum. pansexual to me means that i am attracted to all or any potential gender expression.
Load More Replies...Bi is noticing the gender and being attracted to men and women. Pan is not really paying attention to the gender, and being attracted to all genders. Meaning you believe there are more than 2.
Not really; bi is just used for when you are attracted to a selection of 2 or more genders; it could be like 6 or 10 genders even, but not all of them. :P
Load More Replies...so bi is like latin or greek or sth, idk but bi means two, just like bicycle, cuz it has two wheels, so bisexual means u like both men and women, two genders, pan on the other hand, is some other language and it means all, so pansexual means u like all genders, typically because gender isn't something that matters to u!
Bisexual means that you’re attracted to 2 or more genders; it doesn’t necessarily mean all genders. Pansexual just means that you don’t really care about gender/attracted to all genders. I’m pansexual, and for me it’s just that gender isn’t something I take into account when my brain is deciding if I like someone or not.
I am Pan which means attraction to all genders in my mind at least bisexual means that you are attracted to two genders because of the prefix bi meaning 2.
Bisexual means that you could like all genders, and pan means that gender isn't a factor when considering a date (pan person here).
if you are LGBTQIA+ does that automatically mean your not straight like is there some things that make you not straight and some that you can be and still be straight I have been wondering and don't really have anyone around me to ask
It is entirely possible to be straight and still part of the spectrum, as it includes gender identities and also intersex.
Yep! For example, heteromantic asexual. Or aromantic heterosexual. Romantic and sexual attraction are two different things, so someone can be straight in one type of attraction and something LGBTQ+ in another.
Yes ofc! You could be straight and queer, straight and demigendered, etc.
It doesn't necessarily mean you're not straight because the LGBTQIA+ communities also include the trans communities.
Being LGBTQ just means not being cishet, you can be trans but straight, not straight but cis, or both trans and not straight. So basically if you’re trans but you’re straight you’re part of the LGBTQ community
I think I might be enby, but looking back on my childhood, I don’t see any “signs” of being enby. What counts as a “sign”? Is looking back on your childhood the only way to tell for sure?
I was in my late 20s before I realised I was enby. When I look back now... well, I was a tomboy. Age 2, I was playing more with boys than girls. My mother has always told me I wasn't ladylike enough. And all of these things can also happen to cis women, so it really isn't a slam dunk situation. For me, it just feels like if you get a huge group and sort them into men/women, then I don't fit in either group. I should also note three things: 1) my best friend knew I was nonbinary before I did (she's trans); 2) I was friends with a trans guy who called me his 'little egg child' (i.e. he figured I was in the process of becoming trans); 3) in my all-girls high school I was voted most likely to have a sex change. So basically it's possible other people know even if you don't.
There's not really signs, or if they are, they might be very subtle. As a young child I really liked wearing dresses, I had long hair, and while I didn't feel any real connection to being a girl, I liked the term just fine. And then, I cut my hair. I got almost a foot cut off, and my hair went from past my shoulders to being above my ears. This was the first time I'd really started to question my gender and if maybe I'd prefer to identify a different way. So, no, looking back on your childhood is not a sure sign, and your feelings now are a better indicator of gender.
Thanks! That actually describes my experience pretty well and it’s nice to see I’m not the only one. Thanks for sharing ^^
Load More Replies...well, see im a lesbian but I never experienced any attraction to girls (or guys for that matter) in my childhood, and I just realized abt a yr ago, so u dont nessecarily show any "signs" in order to identify as smth! ^^ <333
I mean if you just didn't care about how people reacted to your behavior (ie. you didn't get why it was a big deal that you were doing something that "only boys/girls do"), that's a pretty big sign.
Do you feel like a male, female or just a person with no real gender leaning one way or the other.
I don’t know, I’m fine with being enby but I don’t feel any particular hatred towards my agab or any other gender either.
Load More Replies...Can anyone point me to some good literature (academic or otherwise) on the evolutionary benefits of homosexuality and/or other aspects of LGBTQIA+? I ask this from a genuinely curious place. Like, obviously y'all exist and are finally beginning to be able to safely and fully come out of the shadows, but how have these been passed along through the millennia if there wasn't some benefit to humanity as a whole.
"[god] sent the gays to fix overpopulation, boy did that go well" -bo burnham
There are many parts of hidden history because people think they were "good friends" or were "only roommates". For example, Alexander Hamilton had a sexual relationship with John Laurens, and Leonardo Da Vinci was put on house arrest twice for gay sex/same sex relationships and was supposed to be put on trial for them but the witnesses never showed up/never testified. Those are just 2 examples. Atm I'm tired and can't remember any others.
My parents knew a biologist who thinks that gayness evolved first in animals who were in overpopulated areas so they didn't destroy all of the resources and pretty much doom the population, but mostly it's just preference. Everyone has a type, some people's types just happen to be of the same gender.
Hello, Nonbinary person here. Have you ever had the talk with your parent(s) or legal guardian about your gender identity and they say something along the lines of "I was non-binary all the way up until my late 20s before I decided I was a [gender]. I was born with the body of a [sex] and I was always a [gender]. Nonbinary isn't real and there is only man and woman. I have many transgender friends and NONE of them are nonbinary. It doesn't exist and you are just following a fad that is going around at school/work. It. Isn't. Real." Is it just me or has anyone else had a similar conversation?
No, weezy, it's really not. It seems like you're the one who needs to wake up at some point. You clearly haven't learned that there are people like me who exist and existed before my time and will exist long after I am gone. Take time to learn and think about what you are going to comment before you do it. LEARN FROM THIS EXPERIENCE!
I don't see him anymore what happened?
Load More Replies...Don't listen to Weezy. It's not a fad. If you feel that way embrace it. I know people who have had their parents say similar things, but they're wrong. Be you and slay.
i did think i was nonbinary for some time, and I accept that you are nonbinary, cuz that's awesome
Thanks bro, I appreciate it! I tend to have low self-esteem and comments like these really help. Wherever you are I hope you have a good night/day/morning!
Load More Replies...Do you ever regret telling people?
yes only because sometimes people can be very mean to people who are different than themselves.
No, because I've only mentioned it to people close to me who understand me. Anyone else I do not mention it.
Honestly kind of but mostly how I did it. I texted my mother in the middle of a school day, not the best wish I had done differently. Then coming out again for gender purposes I went formal with a PowerPoint presentation which was dumb. Thinking I’m a lesbian so I gotta go do it all again. Gonna plan this one better this time
I don't, but I haven't come out to everyone yet. All the people I've come out to are supportive (even if they say hurtful stuff out of ignorance sometimes, but I know they're doing their best). I'm waiting to come out to people who won't be as supportive and taking the time to prepare myself as best I can for their reactions. I think a lot of it has to do with your expectations and how close you are to them. I also think you can regret certain aspects of coming out (how or when you did it, somebody having a bad reaction, etc.) without regretting the whole thing.
What's the difference between pan and bi?
so bi is like latin or greek or sth, idk but bi means two, just like bicycle, cuz it has two wheels, so bisexual means u like both men and women, two genders, pan on the other hand, is some other language and it means all, so pansexual means u like all genders, typically because gender isn't something that matters to u!
Correction: Bi actually means liking 2 genders, but it doesn't mean just male and female. You could be attracted to females and non-binary people, or males and non-binary people. You could even go further and be attracted to Agenders and Demi-Girls! (Random example) Bisexual is a hidden Umbrella term, because as long as its only two, you are Bi!
Load More Replies...Being Pansexual is someone who is attracted – either emotionally, physically or both – to all genders. This includes cisgender, transgender, agender and gender nonconforming individuals. Bi (meaning two) means that the majority of people, believe that a bisexual person is attracted to only two genders: cisgender men and cisgender women. However some people in the queer community who believe this to be the definition of bisexual, believe that bisexuality perpetuates a gender binary. They don’t believe it’s inclusive of transgender people and gender nonconforming people.
Bisexuality is when you feel attraction to one or more genders with or without a preference, but gender is a factor in attraction. Pansexuality on the other hand is also described as 'gender blindness' or not having gender as a factor in attraction.
Okay here is my question for lesbians and queers .How did you realize you were gay?
Personally, I don't really know. I like watching and being around people of my gender. When I do, they have aestheticly pleasing looks and are really cute.
It took me a long time to realise it, but after reading about a few queer charaters in a book i questioned if i was gay, here i am now!
For me, when I was younger I remember trying to imagine my life where I was in a relationship with a person of the opposite gender. I don't know how to describe it, but it just didn't feel right. I remember thinking that I would grow into it or just figure it out later. When I learned that two women could marry each other, I imagined a life where I was in a relationship with a woman, and it made so much more sense to me. I also think identifying the difference between being attracted to someone and acknowledging that they are attractive helped me a bit. (For context, I am in high school and identify as a lesbian.)
I never had a crush for as long as I can remember. at one point a girl went up and told this random dude that I had a crush on him and he asked abt it me at lunch, I said the girl lied he said "im gay so" (he's not, he lied) but uh I didn't get my first crush till the beginning of 7th grd and it took me a while to realize too ;v; but I found this one girl really pretty and amazing but she had a bf and was straight ;v; so I was sad and uh eventually I got over it and moved on to another girl and now she's my gf :D I honestly should have realized before, I had an imaginary friend (jelly) and I knew she wasn't real, but every time I thought smth rud, I would repeat "IMSORRYIMSORRYIMSORRYIMSORRY" in my head until I forgot what I was sorry for but jelly would say "its ok, calm down" so uh yeah and at one point I asked, "jelly will u be my gf?" and she said yeah and literally disappeared and yep but it never occurred to me that me having a gf was being gay? idk dude im dumb xD anyways yea
I didn’t really know of LGBTQ until the start of 7th grade. After I found out and learned about I started questioning if I liked girls mostly because it was a new option. Told myself I was bi because it seemed like the most plausible answer. Then learnt about non binary and pan and omnisexual. Thought I may have been Omni with a preference of women and men. Now I’ve gotten more educated on the subject I’ve figured out I’m not attracted to men or non binary’s. Just women. So really I think it’s just best to experiment and go from there
So for me, it’s the same way any straight person does it. The same way a straight man knows he isn’t attracted to dudes, I know I’m not.
I am apart of the LQBTQ+ and have started to learn/explore about the types of tertiary attraction. My question is: What is the difference between friends-with-benifits and a queerplatonic relationship? I know there is some kind of difference. The idea of having friends-with-benifits is odd and not appealing for me, but I can see myself being in a queerplatonic relationship.
This ended up being a repeat of the one above I put. It has the same wording.
aroace people what flag do you use the orange and blue one or one of the combination flags or a different one
I like the orange and blue flag, but that's just cause I think the colors are pretty, it's a matter preference, and they all work fine.
I’m new to being aro and I use them separately because while I’m VERY sex repulsed, I’m very romance positive and it feels better to separate it because of how different the 2 experiences are
Hi! Just wondering, what does it mean to be Trans but straight? Btw, I don't mean this to offend, just wondering!
It means you are the opposite birth gender and you are attracted to the gender you used to be. Basically, some of those people would realize they like the same sex pre-transition and still like that gender after the person transitions to the opposite gender. Let me know if you want a different explanation.
Ohhhhh ok, this makes so much sense! Thanks! so if you're trans but gay, does it mean you like the gender you are currently?
Load More Replies...Okay so I need some advice... All this stuff is something I've been thinking about for a while and I'm tryna sort it all out lol so I thought why not ask here (I'm cisgender hetero AFAB) 1. What's the difference between sexual and aesthetic attraction? I mean, people don't actually walk around, see someone hot, and go like, "Whoa, I want to you-know-what with them", do they? Because I definitely do find guys attractive but I've never thought that. 2. And the more I think about it, the more I'm like, I don't think I'll EVER think that. I'm not averse to you-know-what either, and if I was to have it, it would definitely have to be with a guy, but I'm not in any way attracted to the male... body?? It's kinda ick. So I don't know what's going on there. Like, it doesn't... I don't feel anything. Not anything positive, not anything negative, I just have no feelings whatsoever. 3. Guys are still hot, I'd want to be in a relationship, I'd want it to eventually include you-know-what, but... yeah. So what is going on 💀
Sounds live you could be asexual hetroromantic. You have little to no interest in sex or find the idea if sex ick, but are romantically interested in the opposite gender. Being asexual doesn't mean you don't ever have sex, there are plenty of asexual people who have sex, just very very rarely. Have a read of the page here for more information https://www.lgbtqia.wiki/wiki/Asexual
Thanks for the link, I've had a read of the page but I'm still not sure... I mean... I'm not at all sex-averse. I just don't find men sexually attractive whatsoever 🤔
Load More Replies...So aesthetic attraction is when you look at someone and you can appreciate their appearance, you know they're handsome/pretty/cute/etc., but you don't want to do anything with them. Sexual attraction is noticing some of these same traits, and wanting to have sex with this person.
Aesthetic attraction is wanting to stare at them for a minute and just admiring them. Usually for me it's clothing and style choices, not their body. Physical/sexual attraction is more body-focused.
Ok so if you’re young (<20) this is probably normal for a lot of people. Personally I fit into what people consider “young” and I feel the same way just towards women. To answer your first question, the difference is finding someone attractive, and being attracted to them.
im asexual so i dont really know about sexual attraction (my friend described it as the tingly feelings but towards another person? idk), but it does sound like you might be on the ace spectrum (some of your points hit with my experiences haha). even if you are asexual/dont experience sexual attraction, you can still want to have sex and stuff, its ultimately up to you and your comfortability with it
Sexual attraction is wanting to bone someone. Aesthetic attraction is thinking they look good, but not necessarily wanting them in bed.
Personally I feel like it depends. I don’t want the hanky panky only bc I am young and self conscious. It is really what pleases u
y'know how everyone who's famous in the lgbtqia+ community get erased? barring a few who are very open or that have obvious gayness (queer eye). what's y'all's opinion on it? i hate it, cuz one of my fave celebrities (billie joe Armstrong of green day) is seen as straight, even though he's bi.
Ah yes, good old erasure /sarcasm. It's annoying as heck, especially with individuals that have been very open about it
and, using the one that i put in my submission, he literally wrote two songs about 1. his bisexuality and 2. dressing in drag,which he does!
Load More Replies...but the annoying part is that if they're married or dating either gender its either gay or straight which is bullsharkshit
Load More Replies...I would like to understand how being non binary feels. Thank you.
Imagine standing in the middle of a room. There's a group of guys on one side, and a group of girls on the other. You're not sure which you're supposed to join because you don't perfectly relate to either 100% of the time. Society wants to push you to one of the sides, mostly the one that matches your genitals, and they think you're just trying to get attention when what you really want is to just be yourself.
Sorry if this has already been asked but if lets say you're a straight girl. You have a crush on a guy but then the guy comes out as trans and transitions to a girl. Are you still straight?
Lets say you still do sorry for not clarifying
Load More Replies...that depends on what language you feel like using. my spouse and i have this conundrum (for them) and prefer not to label it because it's that confusing. however, you can always consider yourself straight, as it's YOUR sexuality, and someone transitioning could be an exception to it. or, you could look into the labels for attractions to the physical gonads and see if that makes sense to the feelings youre experiencing
I'm having trouble differentiating between types of attraction, and there are a lot of complications. In addition to the possibilities of aesthetic, romantic, platonic, and sexual, it might also be gender envy or just my attachment issues. Also, I have different feelings for several different people, and some people I have multiple kinds of feelings about, but I can't figure out whats what.
i cant really help out on the romantic/sexual attraction, but for me aesthetic attraction is just the combination of certain characteristics that appeals to you/thinking someone is particularly pretty, and platonic attraction is like, wanting to get and be close to someone but without the romance/sex
Sometimes i feel like I might be bi. I've had romantic feelings for boys, but I feel like there's been times where I've liked girls. How exactly do I determine?
I guess it's in your heart... did you feel like it was the same as liking Boys? Just let your heart guide you on this one, it'll tell you the truth along.
why is there so many parts?
I assume you want to know why we have so many letters. It's because sex, sexual preference, and gender are all much more complex than the simple "man or woman" dichotomy that dominates Western culture.
Because it's hard to fit yourself in a square or circle or triangle box, when you're more of a blob shape. In other words, more labels, equals more specific, better ways of showing who you are
because there are lots of genders and sexulities and other things (intersex, two spirit)
Because there are so many umbrella terms (I.e. genderqueer, trans, etc.) that encompass so many other terms that help people to correctly identify with a term to fit how they feel, and so many terms that can be elaborated on (I.e. bi-gender where you have to specify which two genders) that having so many terms can help someone know which one they can identify with. I agree that there are a lot but there are also a lot of people who experience life differently so we have so many other ways of describing the possible ways to experience life. We also keep learning about how people feel and you don’t need to use a label but if you want to, there are a lot of them so that you can correctly identify yourself and your feelings, gender, attraction, etc. Alrighty I know this was a lot and I’m sorry for that but I hope that if you can decipher this secret code I have given to you, this helps.
because sexuality and gender are infinite spectrums, and its gonna be pretty hard confining spectrums into a tiny, box concise box of letters :3
I am apart of the LQBTQ+ and have started to learn/explore about the types of tertiary attraction. My question is: What is the difference between friends-with-benifits and a queerplatonic relationship? I know there is some kind of difference. The idea of having friends-with-benifits is odd and not appealing for me, but I can see myself being in a queerplatonic relationship.
Friends-With-Benefits is typically a friendship with sexual elements, and a Queer Platonic Relationship would be somewhere close to a friendship and a romance, with elements taken from both.
That makes sense. Thanks for explaining the difference to me.
Load More Replies...my brain read apart as not straight, then realized lol
What is it like being a Trans man? I am a woman currently (birth) and I don't know what it's like. I have no interest in being Trans but I am curious!
Painful and I wish I wasn't trans, especially with all of the constant transphobia around me. I've internalized a lot of it and it's made my mental health even worse. It's not all bad, though. Sometimes around my particularly supportive cis friends I forget that I'm trans and they've said they do too. I'm pretty tall and if I try, I pass as cis, but I don't care that much usually. People don't misgender me because I look like a girl, they misgender me because they want to attack me. Being trans is nice cause I have a perspective on gender that a lot of people don't have and it makes me understand human psychology better. I'm also in choir and I have a huge range for my choir (soprano-high tenor) and I really love my voice, it doesn't give me any dysphoria when I'm singing. All in all, it's mostly like being a cis man but with titties and transphobia
My friend Callum is a trans man who says you get misgendered a lot. (not old enough to go through the physical changes). You also have to tell people which is something in itself. Another thing is that you have to (at least in his experience) act more manly in a way, because people will always be like, "oh you're not a man you look like a woman" so its overall a hard and challenging experience.
Overcompensation is a genuine thing with trans people. Which is why the 'why are trans women so over-the-top feminine?' transphobes annoy the hell out of me. Some cis women like to be uberfeminine, so obviously some trans women will too; but there's also the fear that if you're not feminine enough people will say you're not trans.
Load More Replies...So respectfully, I've been with a few boys but I want to know what "counts" as "bi". Do I have to be attracted to ALL men and ALL women, or JUST SOME, and what percentage, etc?
Nah? If you've been attracted to at least 1 man and at least 1 woman, you're probably bi. You don't have to be attracted to all women to be gay or all men to be straight (unsure of your gender sorry). So I guess it's JUST SOME, but you should go with whatever term fits.
For some reason, using the word 'queer' feels close to using the n-word for me, like it's a slur. I mean, I'm fine saying "Queer Eye For the Straight Guy" if talking about the show, but beyond that? It doesn't feel like it's interchangeable with LGBTQ+ for me to describe someone. So, maybe people here can help me out... How do you (as people who identify as LGBTQ+) feel about straight, cis people using the word? My hair stylist is this awesome woman who is gay, and as we were chatting, she used the word when talking about how I needed to find the people where I live now that are 'othered.' I'm atheist, which may be even less accepted where I'm living now than people identifying as LGBTQ+ because the community hasn't been exposed to many people saying it, although it doesn't lead to quite as violent of reactions. So, I tried using 'queer' in my response as well, but it just felt WRONG coming out of my mouth. I haven't seen her in a few years thanks to the pandemic and my immune system making travel a bad idea, but I haven't forgotten that odd feeling. And, if there is actually some difference between 'queer' and 'LGBTQ+', I'd love to know. (I grew up in a backwards place, where I'm sure I heard use of the word 'queer' in the kinds of hateful tones you hear from homophobes. I definitely heard 'gay' used as an insult, too - "What are you, gay?!" - but am not bothered saying it. There's just something to the word 'queer' that makes me feel like I'm demeaning a person, which is never my intent. So, I just avoid the word altogether, like how synonyms are also words used instead of words you can't spell.)
queer is totally not a bad word, unless ofc its being used in a derogatory way. i use the term queer to refer to myself as i feel like it's more loose and defines me better than gay/bisexual ever could. and its perfectly fine to say 'the queer community' instead of 'LGBTQIA+' community. just my opinion, obviously i cant speak for the whole community but hope this helped!
Huh... 'The queer community' bothers me less to say than 'queer people' for some reason. Language is weird. Anyway, thank you for sharing with me! If you don't mind my asking, do you feel like queer is a better descriptor for you than gay or bi because you're still exploring who you are? Or, do you feel more like queer is a better descriptor because you'll be and be attracted to whoever brings you happiness regardless of labels? OR is it more like it's no one's business what exactly attracts you, so you'd rather just use a blanket term? There are too many people still who can't see beyond a label about a person's DNA, genitals, and what attracts them to see THE PERSON. With myself, I know how people viewed me back in high school, when I never would've voiced that I didn't believe in a God. They assumed that I was Christian because I'm generally a nice, good person. Once you add that label of atheist though? Forget it.
Load More Replies...I don’t have a problem with it but some of my slightly less educated, straight friends seem to. We were on a school trip last year and I said it as we were walking on a sidewalk and one friend thought I was being derogatory and kicked some dirt on my shoe. It was sorted out and she later learned that I did not mean it that way. P.s. I’m not out to her yet but her older sister is gay so at least she has someone to help guide her into accepting others
there isnt much of a difference between queer and LGBT+, but i personally prefer queer; it's far more inclusive than any alphabet soup that becomes popular because no letters are being left out, and gatekeepers cant call upon that fact. but i also feel like it definitely depends on where you come from, AND who you're talking to. i always suggest just using what you're most comfortable with, until it contradicts what someone prefers to use (eg; calling someone gay if they only prefer queer, and vice versa). i totally know what you feel though with not being able to use a word; i cannot call myself trans because of a bad experience with someone who i was close to. but it is possible to desensitise yourself. try talking with someone who likes using the word to rewrite that "ick" in your brain by someone using it positively :3
Oh yuck, people actually gatekeep based on if "your letter" is used in the acronym? I swear, some people just need SOMEONE to look down on... Definitely get what you're saying re: use what's comfortable unless corrected. They know themselves better than I do, so if someone says they're xyz? They're xyz, until they tell me otherwise. I unfortunately am not around many people to use your advice now to reduce the odd feeling saying 'queer', but I'll keep it in mind for when that changes. Didn't cross my mind that such basic psychology tricks could help. Gotta be louder than those old memories. (And, I'm sorry you had an experience with someone you cared about that left such a negative vibe on the word 'trans.' I hope you're finding your happiness today, or are at least on a path towards it.)
Load More Replies...ok, i'm bi, but i've never heard the term enby. i'm so sorry if i accidentally offend someone, but it seems...new and unused? yet again, i'm sorry, i'm still quite new to the lgbtqia+ community, but i've never heard it. kind regards, the cat overlord xoxo
When you say it, it’s pronounced like NB which stands for non binary in this case. Basically a spelled out abbreviation
I have a question for the trans people out there: How/why did you decide to change gender? How did you tell the people in your’re life? Also, what does queer mean?
Queer is the umbrella term for all LGBTQIAP+ people, at least that's what I've learned
Yeah so I hate to sound like that. But it wasn’t a choice. We were just sorta born like that and ended up realizing and and eventually started telling people. I can’t answer the other question as I’ve not come out as trans, but I have come out as gay and I usually just tell a person but I usually have to get a feel for your personality before I go embarrassing myself.
For the non binary folks: how does your identity fluctuates ? When your gender evolves, how does it work, is it a feeling / urge? How does identifying as male vs female work for you, if it evolves over a week. What does feeling like a male / female work. Genuine question, no hate, it's difficult for me to comprehend
I’m NB and I wouldn’t say it fluctuates at all. I am me and I just want to exist despite not feeling like either male or female. For me neither of those genders felt right, I felt in the outside but now I have a place and a name to how I feel
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Load More Replies...I typically feel gender-neutral/slightly masculine, but it's not something that really changes.
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Load More Replies...I'm genderfaun (fluid from nonbinary genders yo masculine genders) and it fluctuates day to day. It's really just what words and terms I feel comfortable with, along with how I present myself. Some days I'll wish I wasn't allergic to makeup so I could wear rad eyeliner and I'll put it super fancy/flashy earrings and paint my nails bright colours, other times I put way less effort into my appearance and wear super baggy clothing. It doesn't really feel very different, I'm me no matter what.
This is a terrific conversation! I wish that this happened more frequently.
Thanks! I’ll try to post these more often
Load More Replies...I tried to keep up with all the different genders and sexual preferences for a while but to be honest, most of it I can't really grasp. Some things are easy for me to understand, you know the "old letters" of the LGBT movement so to say. The "newer" (as is now more common to talk about) things are difficult for me, maybe because I can't really imagine it and that's my way to understand things in life. I'd like to understand all of the community better but there is just nobody to ask who I know. O boy, all this probably sounds really weird when all I wanted to say was thank you for the opportunity to learn so much! Please excuse my awkward wording as I don't even know what/how I'm allowed to call things without making someone feel uncomfortable.
It’s ok to not understand things! As long as you aren’t using it as an excuse to spread hate, it is perfectly understandable. And if you have any questions I know plenty of pandas who will be happily to answer them!
Load More Replies...This was an amazing idea I don't know whose idea this was but whoever it was you're very smart.
I'm sorry about that. Why don't you use an oc pride art Competition? I'll let you use a piece of my art penup_2023...57da2e.jpg
Didn’t get a chance to post on this so I’ll just ask here, is it wrong to know that I’m lesbian as a kid (I’m not disclosing my real age but it’s around 10)
Not at all! Many people, especially homosexuals(gays and lesbians), realize that they are who they are pretty early on :D (for bisexuals and pansexuals and others, sometimes it takes a little more time since we like multiple genders, and so we might not realize we differ from the norm until we have a crush on someone the same gender or on a nonbinary) no matter what your age is, you’re allowed to have a sexuality and express it (although some people might disagree, looking at all the laws made in the southern states these days 😠) I realized I was pansexual a while ago, and I’m still in high school :D
Load More Replies...Hi, someone who uses some xenogender labels and neopronouns and is otherwise educated on them here! Yeah if you wanna ask questions, shoot. I'll do my best to answer them. I did this last year too. If you just wanna make fun of xenos/neos, move on, you're not funny and I don't have the patience to entertain you
Hi, sorry, looks like weezy is at it again.
Load More Replies...This is a terrific conversation! I wish that this happened more frequently.
Thanks! I’ll try to post these more often
Load More Replies...I tried to keep up with all the different genders and sexual preferences for a while but to be honest, most of it I can't really grasp. Some things are easy for me to understand, you know the "old letters" of the LGBT movement so to say. The "newer" (as is now more common to talk about) things are difficult for me, maybe because I can't really imagine it and that's my way to understand things in life. I'd like to understand all of the community better but there is just nobody to ask who I know. O boy, all this probably sounds really weird when all I wanted to say was thank you for the opportunity to learn so much! Please excuse my awkward wording as I don't even know what/how I'm allowed to call things without making someone feel uncomfortable.
It’s ok to not understand things! As long as you aren’t using it as an excuse to spread hate, it is perfectly understandable. And if you have any questions I know plenty of pandas who will be happily to answer them!
Load More Replies...This was an amazing idea I don't know whose idea this was but whoever it was you're very smart.
I'm sorry about that. Why don't you use an oc pride art Competition? I'll let you use a piece of my art penup_2023...57da2e.jpg
Didn’t get a chance to post on this so I’ll just ask here, is it wrong to know that I’m lesbian as a kid (I’m not disclosing my real age but it’s around 10)
Not at all! Many people, especially homosexuals(gays and lesbians), realize that they are who they are pretty early on :D (for bisexuals and pansexuals and others, sometimes it takes a little more time since we like multiple genders, and so we might not realize we differ from the norm until we have a crush on someone the same gender or on a nonbinary) no matter what your age is, you’re allowed to have a sexuality and express it (although some people might disagree, looking at all the laws made in the southern states these days 😠) I realized I was pansexual a while ago, and I’m still in high school :D
Load More Replies...Hi, someone who uses some xenogender labels and neopronouns and is otherwise educated on them here! Yeah if you wanna ask questions, shoot. I'll do my best to answer them. I did this last year too. If you just wanna make fun of xenos/neos, move on, you're not funny and I don't have the patience to entertain you
Hi, sorry, looks like weezy is at it again.
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