This Former U.S. Health Insurance Exec Says He And The Entire Industry Lied To Americans About Canadian Healthcare
If someone told you that Canada’s health system is an example of socialist failure, where wait times are outrageous and people swarm to the U.S. to get the healthcare they really need, they probably lied.
Wendell Potter spent two decades working in the health insurance industry. He knew it in and out. And he got sick of it. In 2008, Potter quit his job at Cigna as head of corporate communications and has been on a mission to revamp the healthcare system in the country ever since. Serving as a whistleblower and exposing behind-the-scenes corruption and manipulation in the dirty world of health insurance, he posted a thread on Twitter the previous week in which he explained how he had personally been a part of dishonoring Canada’s system so that Americans would think theirs was superior.
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“Health insurers in the U.S. are just as driven to make a profit as ever. As long as that is the case, we will not have a system most Americans can afford,” Potter told Bored Panda.
According to him, the insurance industry has erected barriers that make it increasingly difficult for people to get the care they need when they need it to avoid paying claims and to maximize profits.
This include:
- High deductible plans which most Americans have been forced into and which requires them to pay huge amounts of money out of their own pockets before their insurer will start paying for medical care;
- Requiring doctors to obtain approval in advance before proceeding with treatment and even before prescribing certain medications;
- Kicking many doctors, hospitals, and other facilities out of their provider networks;
- People who get care from out-of-network providers (often unknowingly) are usually on the hook to pay much if not all of the resulting bills.
Finally, for those interested in this gap between America and Canada on healthcare, I tried to spell it out a bit more in this video. Thank you for spreading this message. We need to break the U.S. free from the greed of the insurance industry. pic.twitter.com/pcSkyMj8ee
— Wendell Potter (@wendellpotter) June 26, 2020
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“These barriers are largely unknown in other healthcare systems around the world,” Potter said.
He said that slandering Canada’s system has largely damaged Americans, who have been so misled by the misinformation that they have become fearful of proposals that would make the U.S. system more like Canada’s. “As a result, hundreds of thousands of people have died prematurely and unnecessarily over the years because of a lack of access to affordable and timely care.”
“The slander also undoubtedly has been useful to right-wing organizations in Canada, such as the Vancouver-based Fraser Institute which for years has tried to dismantle the Canadian system and privatize it,” Potter explained.
Potter said the industry continues spreading the same old lies. “They [still] use fresh cherry-picked data and anecdotes that cannot be verified but which many people are willing to believe, unfortunately,” he explained. “The biggest ongoing myth the industry continues to perpetuate is that Canadians wait endlessly for needed care. They obscure the truth that there are actually more doctors per 1,000 people in Canada than in the U.S., and Canadians see their doctors considerably more often than Americans do (6.8 times a year in Canada on average versus 4 times a year in the U.S.).”
Potter highlighted that the insurance industry enlists allies to spread lies and mislead people, including the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and the Federation of Independent Business, both of which Potter used to work with when he was in the insurance industry.
“Those organizations purport to represent American businesses, small businesses especially. Their opinions do not reflect the opinions of many U.S. business leaders. I encourage people to be skeptical of anything those organizations say.”
To learn more about what the US healthcare system is and what it could be, check out Business Leaders for Health Care Transformation, an organization Potter leads that represents businesses of all sizes and types that worry about how rising healthcare costs will impact their business and their workforce. Or follow him on Twitter @wendellpotter.
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Yes we pay higher taxes for our health care but it's still not has much as some of those monthly insurance payments I have seen some people pay and we don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars hanging over our heads. I much prefer paying a few hundreds dollar a year (which I don't see since it's taken off my pay cheque every two weeks). Also, if you have health care insurance thru your employer (for prescriptions and things like that), you pay less taxes (at least in my province).
We live in the States. Our health insurance for two retired people would be well over $2000.00 a MONTH. That's for two healthy people who are minimal meds. If we moved to BC.....as of January 1, NO ONE pays health insurance premiums.
Load More Replies...Well, yes, but their complaints were relatively minor and mainly involved long wait times for elective procedures that weren't life threatening. Compared to the US, that's nothing.
Load More Replies...Australia is similar to Canada, except there’s no such thing as insurance through employers. If we want, and can afford to, we can buy private health insurance. Sometimes it covers all costs, sometimes not. Yes, I do pay through my taxes but so what? Even though I hardly ever go to the doctor (once in the past 10 years), I’d rather contribute to the health and well-being of even the conservatives than contribute to the disgusting salaries of insurance executives etc.
I am an American with lots of health problems and no health insurance. It is very difficult for me to go to the doctor or even the emergency room. I have had an abscessed tooth and instead of getting a root canal and saving the tooth, I am getting it pulled because that is much cheaper. I have anxiety and depression and if it weren't for a local mental health program, I wouldn't be able to get my medications. I understand that not every health care system is perfect, but at least some of these other countries try to do right by all their citizens. All American health insurance carriers seem to do is lie about how great their coverage is.
From what I have heard, dentistry is different than medical care, even in Canada, and is not included in their universal healthcare. Can a Canadian answer definitively? Thanks!
Load More Replies...Yeah I owe probably around $8000 just from ER bills from before I had insurance. Now I'm on medicaid because my husband is disabled but I still have to pay $180 a month to see my doctor. The whole insurance/no insurance situation in America is ridiculous. We should be more like Canada. In a lot of ways.
Wait...you have to pay to see a doctor? Like, even if nothing is wrong with you?
Load More Replies...I am alive today because of the Canadian health care system. If I lived in the states and knew I'd have to pay $300 for a visit to the ER (a quick google search puts the average at $1,389, but even if I knew it would be much less), I would have told myself that funny feeling was probably nothing, there wasn't even any pain, I was fine. And then I would have died from the pulmonary embolism that it actually was.
I have had a lot of health issues in my life. I've been on blood thinners and getting blood tests every week. I've been sent to so many different specialists for so many different tests. Sometimes I wait 2 or 3 months, sometimes I wait closer to a year. I've also been to the ER a number of times, where they let you in immediately for some symptoms and you wait up to 8 hours for others. In both cases, you're probably in for 12 hours of waiting between nurses coming in and asking questions, having blood or urine tests done, doctors coming in and asking more questions, special tests being ordered, etc etc. But they have always taken good care of me, been prompt when urgency is called for, never hesitated to call for tests or other procedures (e.g. dialysis), never made me question the overall competency of my carers (although I *have* had call to question the competency of certain individual doctors), and the most I've ever paid was for medication which is not always covered.
Load More Replies..."pre-existing clause/condition" - wait what does that mean? Its written so it sounds like the health insurance deny paying for the treatment? Someone from the USA pleas explain.
"Pre-existing condition" is a term used by medical insurance companies to avoid paying the bills, and a way for them to force the patient to pay them. It assumes that the patient has a condition which will require more medical care. If the medical insurance company were to be responsible for the costs, they would pay more. So, to pay as little as possible, the medical insurance company says that they will not be responsible for many illnesses which Americans have, and refuse to pay for those illnesses. It is a way for our medical insurance companies to be greedy and cruel, and win in court.
Load More Replies...Medicare for All will cost $30 Trillion over the next ten years!! That's always the headline. They never tell you that under our current system we'll be paying a lot more than that over the next ten years.
Health care is not, and never was, suppose to be a business or about making money. America is SO greedy. Nothing gets done without it profiting someone. There are cures for cancers (and other diseases) but, far too much money is made by those in control of current treatments. As things are, we will never be healthy. There's too much money is making and keeping is sick! I will never understand how those people who profit from illness and death can live with themselves. It WILL come back to them. No system is perfect but, at least some other countries put people over profit.
This is a problem in many countries (though the US might be one of the worst, definitely). I'm pretty sure healthcare is much better where I live (mandatory health insurance, really lowering financial risks for people who get/are ill and/or in an accident), but there are still too many people profiting off health care, unfortunately: insurance companies, hospital boards, big pharma, etc...
Load More Replies...Thanks for nothing. His words are virtually worthless. He needs to go the warpath to fixing things.
Load More Replies...I think I've seen this guy on TV before, saying the same thing. It doesn't even matter anymore. His lies have taken root, and he'll have to do a lot more to undo those lies and more yet to atone for them. All the money he collected for these lies is ill-gotten. How many millions have died because of the American medical "system"? This is a crying shame.
Some figures of Europe : When not working, you pay in Luxembour, monthly +/- 110 EUR for health insurance (when working, your employer pays it). a Dr visit costs about 40 EUR (generalist), and you get +/- 80 % of all medical costs paid back (in case of hospital visit or serious sickness, up to 100%). There are no shortages nor priviledged users who get better service.
I think it's such an awful thing to have to decide whether you can afford an ambulance in an emergency. It's really life or death and in America you have to literally weigh the costs and risks before you call! Here in Canada you don't think twice, you just call if anything seems wrong.
Load More Replies...I lived in Canada (gave birth to my kids there), and found the care for routine pediatric care was good - high quality and free (or cheap). If you have cancer, orthopedic problems, illness requiring multiple surgeries, the Canadian system has long wait times and sometimes such slow treatment that problems get worse or not treated at all. I have brought 6 family members to the US for back and hip surgery, and radiology services not available in Canada. Aunt had breast tumor that was not seen by the imaging services available to her. My brother-in-law had to call an ambulance to get follow up treatment from his colon cancer surgeon who would tell him when he was on call at a Toronto hospital. My nephew (26)was told his hip was inoperable- would need cane! He had surgery in US and is a personal trainer. Single Payer is "free", and decent general care. Problems that US citizens would expect to treat promptly and completely are not handled well, or at all, in Canadian system.
This is just one industry. Think of the policies for implementing innovative best practices and effective, environmental, ethical, economical, educational that could be happening all over but for greed. The greater good is a thing of fantasy more and more. Many of these people practice the ideals found in Atlas Shrugged which basically says there's no greater freedom than to be free to reject humanitarian causes, mainly charity. Something like that. Scary.
I have always been amazed that Americans believe that a highly expensive health care system that excludes you when you most need it (your off sick and not being paid) and even when you can make use of it you have deductibles and they are massive. Where I am we have free at the point of use, health, dental and opticians. Prescriptions are free too. I can't understand how they've been conned into somehow thinking that's a bad idea..
Didn't get through all the comments but I didn't see anyone expressing surprise.
What a bunch of lies!!! 82% of their COVID deaths were seniors in nursing homes! And conditions were horrible before that!!! People be were sitting in soiled diapers and clothes, dehydrated and hungry! Don't believe me? Look it up! Single payer proponents say they "won't push granny off a cliff," but in Canada they treat the aged in ways that would make you cry if it was an animal shelter. Think getting old is a long time away? It comes sooner than you think!
Every other first world country is wrong but the USA is right then ?🤔 thanks for letting us all know 👍
Load More Replies...Not about his data, however after leaving the industry he first worked as a lobyyist of big pharma, then he took a job paying twice as much for political organization to lobby for nationalized healthcare. He did a 180 after taking his new high paying job and currenty earns more than he did as a health care executive between all his lobbying contacts. Not going into details on his data and claims, but questioning the man's credibility
I am from Czech Republic and I want to say that I am insanely grateful for our system of health insurance. As a student below 26, I don't have to contribute yet, but I am more than ready to do so as soon as I will have a job. Not everything in our health care system is perfect - naturally - but it works and is affordable.
As a Canadian I used to complain about waiting time in our health system, today after seeing how covid affected the different health systems around the world I would say we have one of the best system, they even managed to improve some of the services during this pandemic. The most covid cases registered in my province where in private nursing home ! The Private did worst than public, buy cheap medical supply, underpaid health workers they quickly got overwhelmed by covid cases !
Country Nana - Forever We the North said something similar. I feel like US is the opposite - all seniors get Medicare. May people should live in Canada and retire in US. (I know it doesn't actually work like that.)
Load More Replies...I have insurance through my work (that I pay for) but I will decline treatment if I have an expensive illness. My kids are adults now and I don't want them burdened with my debt, but I will end up homeless if I end up In the hospital for more than a few days. So, my choices are just die of natural causes or get treated but declare bankruptcy and probably lose my house. Payment plans are no longer workable, even at public hospitals, as I found out after my daughter's ambulance ride and hospitalization.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-lays-bare-poor-conditions-in-canadas-nursing-homes-11592996400
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-canada-worst-elderly-home-coronavirus.html
https://www.aplaceformom.com/blog/8-02-16-rethinking-health-care-for-canadian-seniors/
The difference is the systems that run it. As opposed to Canada, everything the US Fed Govt controls turns to s**t. (Prob get downvoted, but that's my observation.)
Like the Postal Service that allows you to put a 55-cent stamp on an envelope and have it delivered safely to the most isolated places in the country in under 14 days? The system that the anti-government folks have saddled with a requirement that all pensions be completely covered for 75 years in advance and yet still makes a profit? (btw- These same people have no problem with corporations taking peoples' pension funds and then declaring bankruptcy to cheat them out of it)
Load More Replies...I understand the point you are making. (I had a bumper sticker in high school that said "Save the Planet, Kill Yourself") But the people that are dying of coronavirus are, by and large, not people who are procreating. So the deaths will be a small blip in humanity. Also, there is enough wealth in the world for everyone to have a mansion right now. All 8 billion of us. The only thing preventing it is selfishness and greed.
Load More Replies...Are they themselves doctors, and have to do the paperwork? Or, are they medical advisors for government healthcare policy? Otherwise, I (and likely every Canadian on this site) have no idea what you're talking about. When I think of "bureaucracy" I think of the pre-approval system of managed care, or the thousands of insurers to review and choose from, plus the billing system that the U.S., in all their socialist-hating glory, gives the illusion of freedom of choice and free market capitalism.
Load More Replies...It is true that Canada, Mexico and Argentina are part of America (North and South) and the USA is the United States OF America, but in today’s culture America and Americans usually refer to the USA
Load More Replies...US hospitals nope out on documented citizens if they can't afford their bills anymore. Don't try to make it look like the US for profit healthcare system has any advantages to the Canadian or European system. People dying because they can't afford treatment or medicines is a reality in the US, not in Canada or Europe. The same goes for people going bankrupt on medical bills or people that have to decline medical care just because they can't afford it. It wasn't too long ago that an old man killed his wife and next committed suicide in the US just because they couldn't pay their medicals bills and were afraid to end up homeless. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-left-notes-about-high-medical-bills/
Load More Replies...What the hell does whiteness have to do with it?
Load More Replies...Yes we pay higher taxes for our health care but it's still not has much as some of those monthly insurance payments I have seen some people pay and we don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars hanging over our heads. I much prefer paying a few hundreds dollar a year (which I don't see since it's taken off my pay cheque every two weeks). Also, if you have health care insurance thru your employer (for prescriptions and things like that), you pay less taxes (at least in my province).
We live in the States. Our health insurance for two retired people would be well over $2000.00 a MONTH. That's for two healthy people who are minimal meds. If we moved to BC.....as of January 1, NO ONE pays health insurance premiums.
Load More Replies...Well, yes, but their complaints were relatively minor and mainly involved long wait times for elective procedures that weren't life threatening. Compared to the US, that's nothing.
Load More Replies...Australia is similar to Canada, except there’s no such thing as insurance through employers. If we want, and can afford to, we can buy private health insurance. Sometimes it covers all costs, sometimes not. Yes, I do pay through my taxes but so what? Even though I hardly ever go to the doctor (once in the past 10 years), I’d rather contribute to the health and well-being of even the conservatives than contribute to the disgusting salaries of insurance executives etc.
I am an American with lots of health problems and no health insurance. It is very difficult for me to go to the doctor or even the emergency room. I have had an abscessed tooth and instead of getting a root canal and saving the tooth, I am getting it pulled because that is much cheaper. I have anxiety and depression and if it weren't for a local mental health program, I wouldn't be able to get my medications. I understand that not every health care system is perfect, but at least some of these other countries try to do right by all their citizens. All American health insurance carriers seem to do is lie about how great their coverage is.
From what I have heard, dentistry is different than medical care, even in Canada, and is not included in their universal healthcare. Can a Canadian answer definitively? Thanks!
Load More Replies...Yeah I owe probably around $8000 just from ER bills from before I had insurance. Now I'm on medicaid because my husband is disabled but I still have to pay $180 a month to see my doctor. The whole insurance/no insurance situation in America is ridiculous. We should be more like Canada. In a lot of ways.
Wait...you have to pay to see a doctor? Like, even if nothing is wrong with you?
Load More Replies...I am alive today because of the Canadian health care system. If I lived in the states and knew I'd have to pay $300 for a visit to the ER (a quick google search puts the average at $1,389, but even if I knew it would be much less), I would have told myself that funny feeling was probably nothing, there wasn't even any pain, I was fine. And then I would have died from the pulmonary embolism that it actually was.
I have had a lot of health issues in my life. I've been on blood thinners and getting blood tests every week. I've been sent to so many different specialists for so many different tests. Sometimes I wait 2 or 3 months, sometimes I wait closer to a year. I've also been to the ER a number of times, where they let you in immediately for some symptoms and you wait up to 8 hours for others. In both cases, you're probably in for 12 hours of waiting between nurses coming in and asking questions, having blood or urine tests done, doctors coming in and asking more questions, special tests being ordered, etc etc. But they have always taken good care of me, been prompt when urgency is called for, never hesitated to call for tests or other procedures (e.g. dialysis), never made me question the overall competency of my carers (although I *have* had call to question the competency of certain individual doctors), and the most I've ever paid was for medication which is not always covered.
Load More Replies..."pre-existing clause/condition" - wait what does that mean? Its written so it sounds like the health insurance deny paying for the treatment? Someone from the USA pleas explain.
"Pre-existing condition" is a term used by medical insurance companies to avoid paying the bills, and a way for them to force the patient to pay them. It assumes that the patient has a condition which will require more medical care. If the medical insurance company were to be responsible for the costs, they would pay more. So, to pay as little as possible, the medical insurance company says that they will not be responsible for many illnesses which Americans have, and refuse to pay for those illnesses. It is a way for our medical insurance companies to be greedy and cruel, and win in court.
Load More Replies...Medicare for All will cost $30 Trillion over the next ten years!! That's always the headline. They never tell you that under our current system we'll be paying a lot more than that over the next ten years.
Health care is not, and never was, suppose to be a business or about making money. America is SO greedy. Nothing gets done without it profiting someone. There are cures for cancers (and other diseases) but, far too much money is made by those in control of current treatments. As things are, we will never be healthy. There's too much money is making and keeping is sick! I will never understand how those people who profit from illness and death can live with themselves. It WILL come back to them. No system is perfect but, at least some other countries put people over profit.
This is a problem in many countries (though the US might be one of the worst, definitely). I'm pretty sure healthcare is much better where I live (mandatory health insurance, really lowering financial risks for people who get/are ill and/or in an accident), but there are still too many people profiting off health care, unfortunately: insurance companies, hospital boards, big pharma, etc...
Load More Replies...Thanks for nothing. His words are virtually worthless. He needs to go the warpath to fixing things.
Load More Replies...I think I've seen this guy on TV before, saying the same thing. It doesn't even matter anymore. His lies have taken root, and he'll have to do a lot more to undo those lies and more yet to atone for them. All the money he collected for these lies is ill-gotten. How many millions have died because of the American medical "system"? This is a crying shame.
Some figures of Europe : When not working, you pay in Luxembour, monthly +/- 110 EUR for health insurance (when working, your employer pays it). a Dr visit costs about 40 EUR (generalist), and you get +/- 80 % of all medical costs paid back (in case of hospital visit or serious sickness, up to 100%). There are no shortages nor priviledged users who get better service.
I think it's such an awful thing to have to decide whether you can afford an ambulance in an emergency. It's really life or death and in America you have to literally weigh the costs and risks before you call! Here in Canada you don't think twice, you just call if anything seems wrong.
Load More Replies...I lived in Canada (gave birth to my kids there), and found the care for routine pediatric care was good - high quality and free (or cheap). If you have cancer, orthopedic problems, illness requiring multiple surgeries, the Canadian system has long wait times and sometimes such slow treatment that problems get worse or not treated at all. I have brought 6 family members to the US for back and hip surgery, and radiology services not available in Canada. Aunt had breast tumor that was not seen by the imaging services available to her. My brother-in-law had to call an ambulance to get follow up treatment from his colon cancer surgeon who would tell him when he was on call at a Toronto hospital. My nephew (26)was told his hip was inoperable- would need cane! He had surgery in US and is a personal trainer. Single Payer is "free", and decent general care. Problems that US citizens would expect to treat promptly and completely are not handled well, or at all, in Canadian system.
This is just one industry. Think of the policies for implementing innovative best practices and effective, environmental, ethical, economical, educational that could be happening all over but for greed. The greater good is a thing of fantasy more and more. Many of these people practice the ideals found in Atlas Shrugged which basically says there's no greater freedom than to be free to reject humanitarian causes, mainly charity. Something like that. Scary.
I have always been amazed that Americans believe that a highly expensive health care system that excludes you when you most need it (your off sick and not being paid) and even when you can make use of it you have deductibles and they are massive. Where I am we have free at the point of use, health, dental and opticians. Prescriptions are free too. I can't understand how they've been conned into somehow thinking that's a bad idea..
Didn't get through all the comments but I didn't see anyone expressing surprise.
What a bunch of lies!!! 82% of their COVID deaths were seniors in nursing homes! And conditions were horrible before that!!! People be were sitting in soiled diapers and clothes, dehydrated and hungry! Don't believe me? Look it up! Single payer proponents say they "won't push granny off a cliff," but in Canada they treat the aged in ways that would make you cry if it was an animal shelter. Think getting old is a long time away? It comes sooner than you think!
Every other first world country is wrong but the USA is right then ?🤔 thanks for letting us all know 👍
Load More Replies...Not about his data, however after leaving the industry he first worked as a lobyyist of big pharma, then he took a job paying twice as much for political organization to lobby for nationalized healthcare. He did a 180 after taking his new high paying job and currenty earns more than he did as a health care executive between all his lobbying contacts. Not going into details on his data and claims, but questioning the man's credibility
I am from Czech Republic and I want to say that I am insanely grateful for our system of health insurance. As a student below 26, I don't have to contribute yet, but I am more than ready to do so as soon as I will have a job. Not everything in our health care system is perfect - naturally - but it works and is affordable.
As a Canadian I used to complain about waiting time in our health system, today after seeing how covid affected the different health systems around the world I would say we have one of the best system, they even managed to improve some of the services during this pandemic. The most covid cases registered in my province where in private nursing home ! The Private did worst than public, buy cheap medical supply, underpaid health workers they quickly got overwhelmed by covid cases !
Country Nana - Forever We the North said something similar. I feel like US is the opposite - all seniors get Medicare. May people should live in Canada and retire in US. (I know it doesn't actually work like that.)
Load More Replies...I have insurance through my work (that I pay for) but I will decline treatment if I have an expensive illness. My kids are adults now and I don't want them burdened with my debt, but I will end up homeless if I end up In the hospital for more than a few days. So, my choices are just die of natural causes or get treated but declare bankruptcy and probably lose my house. Payment plans are no longer workable, even at public hospitals, as I found out after my daughter's ambulance ride and hospitalization.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-lays-bare-poor-conditions-in-canadas-nursing-homes-11592996400
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-06-canada-worst-elderly-home-coronavirus.html
https://www.aplaceformom.com/blog/8-02-16-rethinking-health-care-for-canadian-seniors/
The difference is the systems that run it. As opposed to Canada, everything the US Fed Govt controls turns to s**t. (Prob get downvoted, but that's my observation.)
Like the Postal Service that allows you to put a 55-cent stamp on an envelope and have it delivered safely to the most isolated places in the country in under 14 days? The system that the anti-government folks have saddled with a requirement that all pensions be completely covered for 75 years in advance and yet still makes a profit? (btw- These same people have no problem with corporations taking peoples' pension funds and then declaring bankruptcy to cheat them out of it)
Load More Replies...I understand the point you are making. (I had a bumper sticker in high school that said "Save the Planet, Kill Yourself") But the people that are dying of coronavirus are, by and large, not people who are procreating. So the deaths will be a small blip in humanity. Also, there is enough wealth in the world for everyone to have a mansion right now. All 8 billion of us. The only thing preventing it is selfishness and greed.
Load More Replies...Are they themselves doctors, and have to do the paperwork? Or, are they medical advisors for government healthcare policy? Otherwise, I (and likely every Canadian on this site) have no idea what you're talking about. When I think of "bureaucracy" I think of the pre-approval system of managed care, or the thousands of insurers to review and choose from, plus the billing system that the U.S., in all their socialist-hating glory, gives the illusion of freedom of choice and free market capitalism.
Load More Replies...It is true that Canada, Mexico and Argentina are part of America (North and South) and the USA is the United States OF America, but in today’s culture America and Americans usually refer to the USA
Load More Replies...US hospitals nope out on documented citizens if they can't afford their bills anymore. Don't try to make it look like the US for profit healthcare system has any advantages to the Canadian or European system. People dying because they can't afford treatment or medicines is a reality in the US, not in Canada or Europe. The same goes for people going bankrupt on medical bills or people that have to decline medical care just because they can't afford it. It wasn't too long ago that an old man killed his wife and next committed suicide in the US just because they couldn't pay their medicals bills and were afraid to end up homeless. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/elderly-couple-found-dead-in-apparent-murder-suicide-left-notes-about-high-medical-bills/
Load More Replies...What the hell does whiteness have to do with it?
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