If you go far enough back in time, Americans and Europeans are virtually of the same blood. Heck, they still are without the time travel, but other factors played a role in why there’s a certain kind of cultural and social divide. The big pond between the continents being one of them.
Still, differences ought to be celebrated and folks online choose to do that by pointing out what’s normal in Europe (and other places, really) but might look weird to the average American. As per this Reddit thread.
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I am American, living in Germany. I never realized so many American-artist songs have the work F**K in them until I moved here lol...all the "bad" words are edited out in the U.S. on the radio. Here, nope, uncensored. Americans are numb to gunned down children, but bring out the F word and oh we cannot have that! Idiocy.
its the same with movies and video games people getting chopped up fountains of blood yeah why not but put a swear word in ooooh big no no
From the UK, where there is no gun culture. There are no gun shops. You cannot defend yourself with a gun, largely because the other guy won't have a gun either.
England: The number of people including politicians who are publically atheist. Not saying all Americans are crazy religious I’m sure for most it’s just something you put on a census and go to church maybe once a year. But I’ve heard it’s very taboo in the US to nonchalantly say you don’t believe in god, which is sort of the default here if you get chatting about religion.
The strangest thing is the number of american, especially on Quora, that think that without a God there is no morality. I'm Catholic, but I try to do good things because it is more beautiful that doing bad things, not because I fear the punishment in this or the other life...
So, what is culture? In the most simple of terms, culture is everything that a group of people are and know.
In less simple terms, culture is a sort of an identity that a group of people—a community—has that manifests itself through things like language, religion, cuisine, social behaviors and habits as well as the arts.
I'm a Finn, we go to sauna, naked. It's normal you've seen your friends and family members naked. It's not sexual nor is it embarrassing.
i really hate what i call the psuedo-puritanical attitude america has about nudity. growing up, my mom was very much a prude when it came to nudity and i made the decision that i would not raise my child in the same manner. turned out to be a good thing as i have an only son and when i became incapacitated for a while he was the only person i had to help me with all of my self care. i know that some people thought it was weird that we are so comfy with each other but once you realize that the body is just a body sexuality doesn't become an issue.
Holidays/Vacation/Paid Time Off - Call it what you like - but Americans simply don’t understand it.
Not to mention workers rights that don’t require you to be part of a Union to have. We just have them as standard.
From dating an American who came to the U.K. to study, she was shocked by how much holidays we get and how secure our rights are as employees.
Irish people swear and curse creatively, it’s like punctuation and emphasis in normal speech. And our religious comments are also not appreciated.
“Christ on a bike”
“Jesus, Mary and St. Joe”
“F**k him and the horse he rode in on”.
To make it even less simple, a huge chunk of what culture is deals with shared patterns of behaviors and interactions, cognitive structures and understanding learned through socialization. This further brings home the idea of culture being an identity all the while also explaining that it’s an organism of sorts—it grows, it develops, and it reproduces through being passed down to other generations.
Germany: Children in primary/grade school walk to school by themselves or in groups each morning, unsupervised.
We have ~~naked~~ nude areas at lakes and beaches. Or in parks, very rarely. .
This is the strangest list. Listen, children in the US walk to school all the time. There are some that don't/can't, but walking/bike riding to school is still very much a thing. My partner & I have lived in the US for a while, and our old house was near a school. I guarantee every morning the streets were filled with all the little neighborhood crumb-snatchers hoofing it to school.
Religion not being a thing that comes up, ever, unless there is a very specific reason for it. It doesn't matter if you're atheist, christian, Catholic or muslim. Finns don't care about what anyone else believes, and even those of us who do care, consider it a private issue that you shouldn't pry into unless the person you are talking to offers that information voluntarily.
I would love to live somewhere where religion doesn’t matter and never comes up in conversations. I live with my boyfriend of 23 years and I lied to the elderly couple across the street that we’re married and Christian, as it was easier than listening to lectures on morality and living in sin and/or dealing with attempts at “converting” us (I’m entirely non-religious.) It’s already bad enough here that my boyfriend isn’t white and I am - we get nasty looks and sometimes outright harassment from some of the older residents here.
Finns value their personal space. This includes both physical space but also verbally. Let me explain:
If you’re waiting for a bus, for example, stand a few meters apart from other people at the bus stop when possible. Do not sit next to anyone on the bus either if there are still empty pairs of seats. I can easily tell who is foreign when I’m in line in a grocery store because they tend to stand so uncomfortably close to me.
We also appreciate being left alone when out and about (but are happy to give you directions or help in any other way if needed). There’s no need to initiate small talk if you’re alone in an elevator with a Finn because to us awkward silences aren’t generally awkward at all. In general, we value silence and converse in more hushed tones compared to people outside of Finland/northern Europe, especially out in public spaces.
And there’s loads of these cultures. Each country has at least one, and if it’s a bigger or more ethnically diverse country, there can be more (in the thousands even). And that’s just one aspect. Cultures can form among regions, districts, or communities that can all focus on the various aspects of identity—communities based around political beliefs, religious ones, hobbies and interests, and the like.
We have Right to Roam in Scotland and whenever I've seen this discussed on Reddit, what I assumed to be a near-universally popular policy has been torn to shreds by Americans. It's anathema to them, it fries their brains.
"So a homeless person can just pitch a tent in your yard and you can't get rid of them???!!!!"
"So people can just come onto a farmer's land and destroy his crops????!!!!"
"So people can just get access to military installations and airports??!!!"
No amount of explaining that's not how it works will calm them.
Right to roam roughly boils down to: you're allowed to freely explore, as long as you respect the environment, the land and any specific boundaries or restrictions that are in place, as far as I know.
Informality, especially with service workers. Used to work in a supermarket and an old American guy was complaining about something. I tried to help him and he began ranting, told me I was rude and demanded to be addressed as “sir” to which I burst out laughing, enraging him further.
Swedish elevator etiquette:
1. if I can hear you breathe, your presence is too intrusive
2. if you look directly at me, I will mentally stab you
3. if you engage me in small-talk, you are no longer welcome in the country.
You should share an elevator with my parents. Shock therapy guaranteed.
One of the key aspects that explain why there are so many cultures out there is the idea of ecology. In different parts of the world, people are surrounded by different physical and social conventions.
While we are all the same as a species, we all have mechanisms that allow us to adapt to our immediate surroundings in different ways.
England: I have witnessed Americans fume at the way service works when eating food at a pub. No one will greet you when you walk in, no one will come to your table to take your order. Find a table, read the menu, order and pay at the bar.
The Irish/Scots (both have pubs) will also kick you out if you yell at them in their own pub instead of putting up with the bûllshit
Germany: Standing at a red light in the middle of the night on an empty street waiting for the light to turn green. We do not question the meaning of rules.
Belgium: My brother In law once held a bottle of wine in an American supermarket ("Can you put it in the cart, son?") and all of the Americans looked shocked. The idea of a child holding a bottle of alcohol...
They were much more lenient regarding guns though.
The phenomenon is called adaptive phenotypic plasticity and it’s basically the idea of the same genes leading to different human traits depending on the environment.
And the body is going to keep it that way because evolutionary theories suggest natural selection favors flexible behaviors that are sensitive to such environmental changes. And if you pair that up with the idea that we are stronger and more fit to survive in groups, it only solidifies the role of culture in evolution.
In the Netherlands we have something called a 'dropping', which is where we pull our kids out of bed in the middle of the night, dump them in the woods without phones and make them find their own way back. This is very common to do at school camps and with the scouts. Its is completely normal and dutch kids find it rather exciting and not traumatizing at all.
Considering many Americans consider letting your kids play in the front lawn unattended, or letting them cycle around the suburbs by themselves, negligent parenting this is probably quite shocking to them too.
I have to note however, we have no large predators, only a couple wolves, but in very confined areas. Also, the optimal route is commonly only about 30 mins walking, which never happens ofc, and it is hard to not hit a road with signs or a village by walking in an arbitrary direction for half an hour in the Netherlands.
Oh, I remember doing a 'dropping' when I was 12! I was equal parts excited and terrified (and soaked because of course it was raining).
PDA and a lack of prudism. I saw a tiktok of a guy freaking out because a girl was sitting on his boyfriend's lap at the train. If he ever came to Spain he’d leave traumatized due to the huge amount of people that shamelessly make out on the streets, sunbathe naked, etc.
I’m non-European but once studied & lived in both US and Europe. Based on my observations of a few European countries (disclaimer ahead: not all
European countries are like this):
- Home schooling being illegal except in very narrow and absolutely necessary cases.
- Surrogacy being illegal
- Good public transportation, which leads to
- Very young kids take buses, trams, underground, or ride bicycles to school and go home
- drinking alcohol at 18 or even younger
- wearing school uniforms
- No AC in the house
- not allowed to talk loudly in public
- parents allow their kids to stay overnight at their partners’ houses & vice versa
- Religion being a personal thing that doesn’t shove down other people’s throats; openly saying you are non-religious/agnostic/atheist
- Comprehensive sex ed > abstinence-only
All I can think so far.
Yes, the homeschooling part! It is super weird to me that people who can barely manage their life can decide to homeschool their children andcteach them a lot of mumpitz. We have mandatory curriculums and you have to pass certain tests ever so often to finish school. And not every Tweedledee can call themself teacher.
Homeschooling is also unfortunately often used as a way to hide child abuse. :( I do believe it should be allowed but in a very controlled way.
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Homeschooling in America should be more regulated because right now there are a ton of kids not getting properly educated at all. It's amazing how unsupervised and unregulated the current homeschool program is in my state. I know this is a state by state thing, and my state is one of the worst.
The US is the "poster child" of how absence only sex ed and "just say no" to d***s do not work. I know, I'm a US citizen.
In Ohio, most of our "homeschooled" kids actually went to/go to a virtual online school where they still have teachers, they just do it online from home. My kids did it during covid. The virtual academy even sent us computer, printer, all text books and workbooks and other learning things they would need like science experiments, number counting blocks, etc. It was really great and kept them from falling behind. My youngest would've started kindergarten during COVID and had we not done that, I'm not sure he'd be where he is now academically. It was still hard and they definitely still required help, but worth it
Their attendance was also reported by when they logged on. They had to log on daily through the week and if they missed it was still reported to the state and could still warrant a visit from a truancy officer if necessary
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Wearing school uniforms - does that not happen in the USA? In my mind it's a typical British thing. Maybe French as well? certainly not Dutch.
school uniforms in the US mainly only happen in private schools I believe
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I loved sex ed in Germany. Education, Contraception, Responsibility. We raised our daughter with the same concept. Never had to have the talk with her. She observed the birds & bees & we just told her the truth very early on. Here in the US, that German mantra is met with tons of resistance. Not only from religious groups but from extreme feminists as well.
I think they meant that teenagers can sleepover at their girlfriends/boyfriends houses
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AC is actually pretty common in many European countries. The "no AC in the house" thing is a myth that stubbornly refuses to die. Same with "no window screens."
Surrogacy and home schooling are both perfectly legal here in the UK but with restrictions. Surrogacy cannot be done for profit and if a child is being home schooled there is a minimum number of hours that they must spend on structured learning and they must be taught to an approved and appropriate standard.
This is the ideal for home schooling, but it is very bady supervised and there are not even any firm figures as to how many children are being home schooled.
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Parents should have to pass a test in order to qualify to home school their children
Most b kids in anerica under 18 drink liquor. Soon pot will be legal everywhere too.
Well, everything depeche ds on which of the 50 Europeqn countries we are takling about. But I can add for the homeschooling part. In Denmark you can homeschool and some people do (not many). But you receive supervision and there are tests and checks to maje sure your kid is learning what they need to. They still need to pass the exams and tests as if they were in school. But how you actually do the "teaching" is up to you. And at least what I heard it works great here in Denmark. No socially isolated weirdoes as you see in the movies (American movies🤷♀️).
That is true, but homeschooled children may miss out on learning how to be social.
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U.K. - surrogacy is legal but the surrogate mother can’t do it for profit. They can only claim legitimate costs relating to the pregnancy. Stops people buying or selling babies for a big payday.
As such, that which makes us all similar and psychologically tending towards the same things is expected of humans sharing similar ecological conditions.
To keep it clear, the idea of environmental conditions isn’t just weather patterns—it’s also things like the social, physical and a slew of other climates, conditions that force us to react in one way or another.
I'm am American living in Portugal and one thing that surprised me is you just take off your clothes in front of the doctor.
In the US, they give you privacy and you take off your clothes and put on a gown. Then the doctor or nurse knocks and comes in. Here, you go the gynecologist and you just take off your pants and undies and hop right up into the stirrups. A friend said she was shocked to not be given a robe for her mammogram. Just shirt and bra right off and letting it all hang out.
Makes sense! They're going to see your bits and bobs anyway! It's more efficient to not have that extra step in between.
To be so ashamed and concerned about your own body is inconceivable to me. The doctor has seen every size and shape of body, yours is no different. The fact that children in the US (and increasingly in the UK) are being trained to have this hangup is so sad.
We call each other c**t, often as a term of endearment. Eg: "Ah Tommy you're some mad c**t."
I am led to believe the Yanks do not particularly like that word.
Denmark: Babies sleeping outside. In particular babies sleeping alone in public outside restaurants or shops for example.
And all of this is important why? Because, tl;dr, we’re better off closer together.
By learning who the other is, we empower ourselves to learn more about what the world is like, and education never hurts anyone (getting hit by a book isn’t an argument against it, Tim).
As such, this way we build trust and respect, and if a particular place becomes rich in multiculturalism that way, it just makes it more interesting to live there.
Netherlands: Children from around the age of six being able to play outside on the streets and in the woods and meadows with other children on their own, unsupervised. At least in the villages. As long as they are home before supper and the parents have a general idea of where they are.
I let my nephew and niece (age 6 and 8 respectively) roam around the neighbourhood unsupervised when I babysit (the parents know this and agree). They know where they are allowed to go, and I'll stay home until they are back, but I trust them and they know it. They're smart little kids.
Sweden:
* The ability to immigrate to a non-Swedish citizen who lives in Sweden, as a partner in a same-sex, unwed couple.
* No screens on the windows and no AC in homes, businesses or public transit (and yes, it does get hot here).
* In Stockholm, it takes an average of 9 years of waiting in a rental queue to be able to rent an apartment (or you can sublet for hugely inflated prices). Once you sign a rental contract, your waiting time starts over again. People trade rental contracts in order to be able to move apartments, and rental contracts are sold on the black market.
* University is free.
* TV dramas about teenagers having lots of great sex, shows about sex are shown on national public television.
* Servers/waitstaff are paid a living wage. Tips are not required or necessarily expected.
* A visit to the doctor costs about $25. All healthcare is free for a year after you’ve paid $140/year in fees. Giving birth is free. Cancer treatment is free (once you've paid $140/year).
* Everyone eats mushrooms and berries they find in the woods. Wild foraging is a very common pastime
* Taking a dip in a hole in the ice of a frozen lake is a relatively common winter weekend activity.
* Your running water/warm water/heating is usually paid for by the rental company.
* Salty, ammonia-flavored licorice is considered delicious
* Carrying pepper spray requires a permit
* Carrying any size of knife or sharp object in public is illegal, except when required by work, or some other justifiable purpose (like mushroom hunting).
* Only 6% of the Swedish population has a license to own a firearm
Did you forget, * Open a can of surströmming if you want to be alone? [Fermented herring. Some say it smells like a dead body. Others liken it to a dirty nappy. In other words, it reeks.]
The Netherlands: Drinking alcohol around children is very normal. On a nice day you see families sitting comfortably in the park with a glass of wine in their hand and the children playing around them.
As Jrog explains, this "culture" of alcohol has the advantage of demystifying its consumption and therefore making it generally safer by allowing you to have a healthier relationship and to know your limits (at least for Most people and that doesn't mean you'll make children drink). And conversely, I'm always surprised to see that in American films and series the slightest occasion seems to be an excuse to have a drink, all the time, at any time of the day or night.
This is also why we ought to support cultural diversity, and there’s a number of ways of doing it. First up, plunge into the pool of diversity as living in one rubs off on you. This is quite literally how culture works.
All the while avoid imposing values that others may have trouble accepting or it’s inconsistent with their own.
France. Eating proper meals at school and not snacks. I wouldn't have imagined eating a pack of chips, pizza or industrial slices bread. Lunches were cooked on site and consisted of proper dishes like a restaurant.
Also, non overly friendly staff in shops or restaurants that don't treat clients like royalty. You won't have a waiter come to you ask if everything is fine every 2 minutes. Or very polite staff in shops, quite the opposite. There's a reason French people have the reputation of being rude. ;).
Pizza is available as a proper course in Spanish and (of course) Italian schools. But chips and ultra-processed food is, indeed, banned.
Austria: As an assistant manager I regularly had to calm American customers down because the staff in our souvenir shop told them that they are busy at the moment (not with other customers) and can't help them with finding certain items. Never any other nation had a problem with that.
(But Americans are usually the only ones anyway asking for the manager. Only once in my career one Chinese woman asked for one but that was it).
I'm a 50 yo Spaniard, and never in my life asked for the manager. Unless I knew the manager and I was there to have a coffee together...
I attended university in 3 different European countries, got my masters, and just paid about 50 euros in total fees for 10 years of studying (I wasn't in a hurry to finish, as classes were interesting, I learned a lot and had fun)
And all these universities were better than expensive private colleges in USA (I work as IT in expensive private college in NYC so I know).
A lot of what accepting other cultures is can be defined as education and understanding. So teach yourself and learn to understand the concepts that describe these other cultures. In turn, learn to respect and accept them, and this will show a good example to others.
By proxy, push away the tide of ignorance and stop folks from exercising insensitivity, bias and prejudice. Being proactive in all of these things will solidify the experience.
Poland:
Married couples often refer to their parents in-law as just "mom" and "dad".
Everyone is sir/madam until you both decide otherwise. Calling adult person you just met "you" or their name is a big no-no.
Pasta or rice with strawberries and cream is a summer dessert.
Majority of people here would hate the idea of store staff smiling at them and offering help all the time.
Eating inside with your hat on is considered rude af.
Living comfortably without a car or a driving licence. Even if someone has a car, they only use it for transporting something heavy or going for journeys outside of town, not for daily commuting.
Daily commuting by trains and train stops in every other village.
Parents and other family members letting little children drink alcohol. I'm pretty sure I was a toddler when I had beer for the first time. On the weekends we all had a glass of beer after lunch, and at the family gatherings everyone got a glass of alcohol for a toast. (I hope most young parents nowadays wouldn't do that. I'm 30.).
Anyone over 45 in Spain had a shot of sweet wine given by their grandmas to boost their appetite. The only thing that divide is is what brand we were given 😆
There appear to be few things as confusing to Americans as a "if you meet the minimum education requirements you're just in" policy in higher education admittance.
What I really don't get about US education system (apart from ridiculous tuitions of course, this is just bonkers) is the legacy status. Accepting students based on where their parents studied just gives me monarchy vibes, I think all people should be judged on their own merit and actions, not their parents. I fear many talented students lost their places because some entitled rich kids took their spot only because of who they were born to.
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Can we have one of these that isn't US vs whomever? WTF is it with you people pitting the one people against another in so damned many posts ? I GUARANTEE you that your people don't occupy a space in our heads the way we seem to in yours. Unless we're talking the whole "low hanging fruit" thing in writing posts 🤔. If you're just not that creative perhaps you should touch some grass and reevaluate your chosen career.
I'm so tired of these articles too. I think we all realize that other countries do things differently. Yes, we're aware other countries have free heath care and college. Do you think we have a choice of how things work over here? I assure you, we don't and voting for one vs the other won't help because all politicians are bought and paid for. Also the people that always shouted 'USA is best!' are from 50-60 years ago. The vast majority of Americans today are just trying to get through the day, just like everyone else.
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We have mandatory voting here in OZ, doesn't seem to go down well elsewhere.
I admit I couldn't finish reading all these, because I found those I read to be mostly untrue.
I saw a post the other day comparing the size of the US to European countries. The comparison showed the dramatic difference of US travel distances vs. European travel distances. It's pretty different, to say the least. And, yes, I've lived an traveled in both
Let's leave Americans alone. They are already suffering a lot. How about some other ethnic/national group? I am Polish, there is plenty to make fun of in my country. Have a go!
In Sweden Healthcare costs are a maximum of 1400sek (€125/136usd) in a 12 month period, once you reach it your healthcare is free for the remainder of the 12 month period. Costs for being admitted to hospital is just 130sek per day (€12/13 usd) which includes all treatments, whether it's all the tests needed, cts, MRI, operations plus all medication and food. Prescriptions cost a maximum of 2600sek (€231/252usd) in a 12 month period, mine took 3 months to hit the cap and that means 9 months of free meds. Insulin including all the apparatus such as needles, blood sugar measuring device, insulin pump is all free.
Can we have one of these that isn't US vs whomever? WTF is it with you people pitting the one people against another in so damned many posts ? I GUARANTEE you that your people don't occupy a space in our heads the way we seem to in yours. Unless we're talking the whole "low hanging fruit" thing in writing posts 🤔. If you're just not that creative perhaps you should touch some grass and reevaluate your chosen career.
I'm so tired of these articles too. I think we all realize that other countries do things differently. Yes, we're aware other countries have free heath care and college. Do you think we have a choice of how things work over here? I assure you, we don't and voting for one vs the other won't help because all politicians are bought and paid for. Also the people that always shouted 'USA is best!' are from 50-60 years ago. The vast majority of Americans today are just trying to get through the day, just like everyone else.
Load More Replies... We have mandatory voting here in OZ, doesn't seem to go down well elsewhere.
I admit I couldn't finish reading all these, because I found those I read to be mostly untrue.
I saw a post the other day comparing the size of the US to European countries. The comparison showed the dramatic difference of US travel distances vs. European travel distances. It's pretty different, to say the least. And, yes, I've lived an traveled in both
Let's leave Americans alone. They are already suffering a lot. How about some other ethnic/national group? I am Polish, there is plenty to make fun of in my country. Have a go!
In Sweden Healthcare costs are a maximum of 1400sek (€125/136usd) in a 12 month period, once you reach it your healthcare is free for the remainder of the 12 month period. Costs for being admitted to hospital is just 130sek per day (€12/13 usd) which includes all treatments, whether it's all the tests needed, cts, MRI, operations plus all medication and food. Prescriptions cost a maximum of 2600sek (€231/252usd) in a 12 month period, mine took 3 months to hit the cap and that means 9 months of free meds. Insulin including all the apparatus such as needles, blood sugar measuring device, insulin pump is all free.
