Daughter Uninvites Her Dad And His GF From Her Wedding After They Demand Everything Is Vegan, From Food To The Guests’ Shoes
Lots of little girls dream about walking down the aisle with their fathers. Reddit user GooseHeadGoose and her dad did too. But not anymore. Her recent post on the popular subreddit ‘Am I the [Jerk]?‘ has been causing quite a stir, as the bride-to-be seeks advice on her decision to un-invite her father (and his girlfriend) to her big day.
The reason for this drastic action was the couple’s request that the wedding is entirely vegan, which the woman felt was an unreasonable demand.
This woman was heartbroken upon uninviting her dad from her wedding
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But the man’s girlfriend had convinced him that his daughter was draining him financially, and unfortunately, the bride-to-be saw no other choice
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Traditionally, uninviting a wedding guest is considered poor taste but when someone is making your big day miserable, there’s not much else you can do
According to the Brides American Wedding Study, parents cover between 35 and 42 percent of the cost of their children’s weddings.
If they are following tradition, the groom’s family is traditionally responsible for the bride’s engagement ring and wedding ring(s), all groom attire, groomsmen gifts, boutonnieres, and corsages for the appropriate wedding party and family members, the officiant’s fee, the marriage license, rehearsal dinner costs and transportation and lodging for the groom’s family and groomsmen.
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Even if they’re the main contributor to the budget
The bride’s family is expected to bear the brunt of the expenses including the wedding dress, bridesmaids’ gifts (bridesmaids are still expected to buy their own dresses), the wedding planner or coordinator, the invitations, the flowers, the wedding reception, photography, the groom’s wedding ring, music, any pre-wedding day meals for the wedding party and transportation and lodging for the bride’s family and bridesmaids, as well as transportation for wedding guests, if needed.
However, since GooseHeadGoose’s dad wanted to cover the entire bill, she and her partner now have to restructure the whole budget.
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Parents often control their children’s wedding planning
Sadly, this conflict isn’t a standalone case. According to a Zola survey, 53 percent of couples feel their parents are the biggest cause of stress during the run-up to the wedding (33% think it’s their in-laws).
If the mom and dad are financing their child’s wedding, they believe they believe they’re buying themselves a say in the planning too.
“Communication is everything!” wedding therapist, Landis Bejar, LMHC, told Brides. “So many family arguments come down to lack of or miscommunication—we assume people’s feelings and intentions, and we let them fester in our minds. Talking it through with that person almost always alleviates the stress [because] we’re often more aligned than we think, or things aren’t nearly as bad as our imagination would have us believe.”
Getting everyone on the same page right from the get-go is generally the best way to avoid butting heads when you’re in the thick of planning. But as we’ve just read, not everyone is willing to compromise.
But the overwhelming majority of people think this father has gone way too far
don't tempt stupid - but it's definitely going up in the top 5 for the day!
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I don't care about vegan or not... But I care about pressure and really stupid advice about giving newborns almond milk! There is a reason why we breastfeed. Our milk suits our babies. Don't get me started about vitamins, fat, aminoacids etc. that is not enough of in vegan diet for babies and toddlers up to at least 2 y.
Is that seriously a thing?? How does a mother giving her child milk offend vegans?? It's purely natural and not exploiting animals... at alll. Should squirrel mothers not suckle thier offspring?
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NTA. Your dad is under the spell of this toxic woman and he doesn't realize that she's causing him to be estranged from his children. She needs to go.
Almond milk can cause malnourishment in a baby 🤦🏻♀️ wow I hate the holier than thou attitude some vegans have. It’s definitely a way to deter people from even considering it. I don’t blame the OP from uninviting them
You're absolutely right and I agree. It really is. I've said before acting so holier than thou and even rude isn't going to help them spread their message and doesn't actually encourage people to be vegan. There are better ways to educate and talk to people about it.
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I wouldn't trust her to not dig up the churchyard and bury your guest's shoes, wallets and handbags. Better they not attend.
I couldn't deal with that woman as patiently as OP is. Like I would invite them to dinner and kill the chicken in front of them before roasting it with vegetables.
I use chicken bones for broth later. B*tch better NOT steal my food.
Load More Replies... I wonder if her accusations about the step daughter trying to steal her house are about the father wanting to give money to help his daughter and the step mother seeing that as her money being taken and used? I just think the father is disingenuous in his actions somehow especially the vegan rift that gets him out of paying for his daughter's wedding.
And here was I feeling nasty for thinking such a thing. Glad I am not the only one
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Loving the almond milk for a newborn 🤦🏼♀️ It was just in the news about a mom who did this and the baby died because of lack of nutrients. GF sounds like she has dad wrapped around her finger. And dad seems to worship the almighty P more than the relationship with his own children.
Veganism as part of a healthy diet, I have no problem with. Veganism as a self-righteous lifestyle makes me want to punch somebody in the face. It has al.ist become a cult to some people, with tenets that may not be questioned. If Dad's GF cares so much, tell her to research how spectacularly harmful almond milk is for the environment, especially how it is decimating bee populations.
I was a vegetarian for 9 years. Meat still isn’t my favorite food, but I had to reestablish balance in my diet for my health. But before reincorporating meat, I shifted to all-vegan, then to a pescatarian-diet. I came to realize that no amount of high-quality vitamins/ supplementation or “vegan-based amino-acid combinations” could give me the essentials I was missing: specifically, b-vitamins, iron and zinc. And these are especially important for managing good mental health and energy (women lose about 1 mg of iron during each menses; some lose 5-6x more). But you’re right: some people I encountered along the way were absolutely militant and delusional about their dietary preferences, and will not accept that what biologically works well for some, doesn’t work well for others, even when we *really* want it to.
Load More Replies... Given OP’s description of seemingly random accusations by dad’s GF about her “intentions with GF’s inheritance money,” I suspect projection: As in, what are GF’s intentions with OP’s dad’s money? Not only did GF create (what she had to know would be) a stipulation you’d never agree to—she got you to reject dad’s money and disinvite him: because OF COURSE. She’s squeezing you out. You did what any sane person would do (I suspect GF depended on it). All the red flags, and your dad is a fool for not seeing them.
NTA.This post screams, "GOLDDIGGING S**T-STIRRER!" This woman is worse than the fiancé in "The Parent Trap." OP's father is about to learn a painful lesson about trading his family for a narcissist. If he wants to try and mend fences, he should offer the two a vegan option. If they accept, well and good. If not, OP and his bride should enjoy their day, and make sure that security is in place. That kind of nastiness has no place at what is going to be the happiest day of their lives.
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The goal is to have the dad discard his original family and she has achieved it. Invite dad to attend without her but he won’t.
That lady is a big, walking yikes. Obviously, she needs some therapy. As for the almond milk....I read in the news recently that some woman was giving her baby exclusively almond milk (because a website perpetuating harmful advice told her to) and she ended up starving her baby.
Total bollox, even vegans understand that baby mammals live on milk
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Definitely NTA. Just because she's vegan doesn't mean she can control everyone else lives.
"dear father, since you have proven that your word/ promise means nothing, I am sure you understand that my word to include you and entitled step woman, in my life means nothing. WE have decided that your love of esw, is more important than a relationship with your children and possible future grandchildren. Have a nice life ALONE
Fairly obvious solution. Refuse his money but still invite them, offer then a vegan food option, but don't do anything else vegan. The onus is then on him to choose what is most important , his vegan views or attending his daughters wedding.
While on paper your solution is simple and elegant, I feel in practicality that you can't trust the father's gf to keep her mouth closed if she were to attend. Sounds like she has no filter and suffers from the inability to care that the wedding is not the time or place for her extreme vegan view. IMHO
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Can we say..gaslighting? This woman is totally unhinged and dear old dad is drinking the purple koolaid. Cancer don't care if you're vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian, omnivore or anything else, you're fair game! These two need to take off the tinfoil hats and get off the Crazy Train. OP needs to cut off all communication with these two loony tunes.
The looney tunes were far far more sensible than those two.
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If it were me, I'd go no contact, and I'd be explicit about the reasons (to the point of making this ridiculously entitled new wife cry) to get the point across that you will in NO WAY tolerate this abuse in your life or the life of your children moving forward, and so long as they COME as a package deal, they GO as a package deal. Offending them with the truth before parting ways may be the only way to make a clean break. I could totally see this woman stalking and harassing you, because once daddy starts to get sad, she will absolutely turn her claws your way and start demanding time with your kids, either because she feels they are entitled to it or she feels that you are an unfit mom because of your non vegan status. She is that specific type of unhinged. Be prepared and stay safe!
The GF is about only one thing. Separating the OP from her father. Why? Well. she's obviously into control! But I suspect another reason. The GF keeps making irrelevant references to diverting inheritances. This may be because she has in mind getting the daughter out of dad's will and herself in.
So many things wrong with your father and his choices. That is fodder for a psychologist and you can't fix it, but you can block it. Stay healthy and happy and far away from any source of control that is not in your best interests. Your father is as guilty as his girlfriend because he is complicit. You can't put a dollar amount on happiness and sanity.
Very sad that his choice in partner is having a detrimental effect on his relationship with his kids. She is effectively ruining his chance of walking his daughter down the aisle and being a part of her day. One might wonder if this is her ultimate agenda, sounds like it. He is to blame though for allowing her to dictate to him. Shame, but demanding someone else have a 'vegan' wedding because of your own needs and wants is really beyond bonkers.
If this story is not fictitious, 🤔 then obviously NTA, it is ludicrous to imagine forcing 98 people to appease 2 lunatics. This comment may not be pretty, but it is objective. (I used the number 100 for ease of illustration)
If this crazy KBT lunatic actually exists (see its comment; cray creature is too afraid to allow intelligent people to reply to it 🤣), that’s proof that there is absolutely nothing too insane to be real.
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A baby in Belgium died from vegan milk. Do vegan’s understand that mammal babies are meant to drink their mother’s milk? Here’s a news article about a Florida baby that was given almond milk exclusively and almost starved to death: https://ustoday.news/a-baby-lost-weight-and-vomited-at-the-hospital-doctors-determined-he-was-starving-to-death-on-an-almond-milk-diet/ As a former vegetarian, I understand the pros of a vegan lifestyle but I also see the extremism.
Dad's gf is mentally/ emotionally ill, likely untreated, & will be a problem in most social settings. This has nothing to do w/ veganism- it's simply a narrative gf uses to act out. She's evidently holding dad emotionally hostage & sadly OP can do little about it. She has the power people give her. She's delusional & possibly dangerous. Hard NTA & I recommend avoiding the woman whenever possible. A simple or pared-down wedding/reception is small price to pay for having peace of mind at one's own wedding.
I'm a Vegan, but I don't push my lifestyle on people. If they ask me questions about being Vegan, I of course answer them, but I know that my friends and family are carnivores, and they know that I'm Vegan, and we respect that about each other. I wouldn't even ask someone to put their child on a Vegan diet, because I believe that children shouldn't have views forced on them, they should make their own lifestyle choices, and they also need extra calories, and nutrients that the Vegan diet doesn't have. Your father really needs to get a grip, and decide who's more important his children, or his girlfriend? His lifestyle views, or his daughter's happiness? It's your wedding Hon, and you do it how you want to. If you want to have Vegan options for food great, but if you don't, still great, they could've asked you if they could bring some Vegan food, so they could enjoy your day with you. This is your day, not their day.
I think the father has already made that decision. It's sad but OP can live without him. Blood is not always thicker than water. You can choose your friends but not your family.
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I haven’t spoken to either of my parents in 22 years and neither has my brothers, just because they brought you into this world, you don’t have to stand their toxic BS, be you and have a great wedding day
It’s been 34 years since I’ve seen, spoken to, or heard about my so-called ‘parents’. I haven’t even been back to the state they lived in (I don’t know if they are still alive), nor even crossed the state’s airspace. Blood means absolutely nothing; actions are everything!
Load More Replies... I'm a Vegan, because after a lot of tests, it was discovered that I'm allergic to all animal protein. I don't force my lifestyle on anyone, and I expect the same thing done for me. You sound like a reasonable person, and I'm sure that you would've been fine with Vegan options even, but the whole wedding made Vegan including what was worn, is ridiculous for your father and his girlfriend to ask to be done. I don't believe putting a child on Vegan diet is healthy, because they need extra calories and nutrients that the Vegan diet doesn't have, and they'll have to take supplements like an adult Vegan, but that's to much on a child. I also believe in not forcing views on a child, that you let them make their own choices in life. Your father needs to get a grip, and decide if his children, and daughter's happiness on her special day, are more important than his and his girlfriend's views. She gives Vegans like me, who respect other people's lifestyles, a bad name.
I would go NC tbh. That woman is abusive, plain and simple. Your dad is an adult, albeit with really bad judgement of character, but he has chosen this person. If and when he turns her away then be open to reconciliation. Really sad, but out of your hands.
Kimberly, you are much kinder than I would be. In such circumstances, I don't think I would be open to reconciliation. "What's done cannot be undone." (Quotation from MacBeth).
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Tbh, asking for only vegan food is a bit far imo. Nevermind dictating what OTHER GUESTS do. F**k em
I'm not a vegan, vegetarian, or whatever other crazy non meat eating diets that are out there! I have all the respect in the world for how others choose to live their lives! Ya with friends I will joke around OCCASIONALLY and they give it right back to me. How others choose to live their life or eat what food they want to eat is none of my business if it makes them happy! I absolutely DESPISE people out there that push their agenda on others and shame people for living a life that best suits them! To take that a step (actually more like 10 steps) further and try and force someone, especially your future step daughter, to have a wedding that they think is best when their interests are only about themselves and not anyone else involved! Honestly, after the chicken "funeral" (lmao, WOW) I would have cut bait right then and there! She obviously has some mental issues and clearly believes she is above other people. You already know the answer to the question you are asking! NTA!
Dad's girlfriend is extremely insecure and jealous of his relationship with his daughter. She has been trying to break their bond and it sounds like she finally succeeded. When she mentioned it being easier on her siblings, I think the girlfriend's been very busy breaking his bonds with all his children. Then she has him all to herself. It's sad and sick really.
If my dad ever picked an insane lady over me then I wouldn't want him in my life anymore. Thankfully, he would never do that.
I really don't care about the vegan thing. Yes I will make sure there's a vegan option if there's a need but you get married the first time only once. So make everything the choice of you and your fiance. What bothers me is the dad's role as his relationship with his daughter is separate. It's a big milestone in her life where the girlfriend is not involved in. He taught you good values like respect but does not expect his girlfriend to give it to you or him respecting you. He still treats you like a ten year old. This woman may be gone a few months or a year from now and any accommodations you made for her will become part of your memory book. Don't allow your dad to ruin your big day because it will be his regret someday. He made his bed, let him lie on it. Girl cut him lose. NTA.
Not necessarily. Egg and milk are used in the refining process for a lot, especially wine.
Load More Replies... NTA However it sounds like your FATHER is. You are his “DAUGHTER.” Unless he’s daft he knows exactly what is going on and he is enjoying it. This is a cry for attention from your father. Clearly one area the outsider cannot control is having a private conversation with your father and let him know straight up your plans for he wedding. Also let him know that you are enraged he’d go to this x tent for attention by allowing a woman he is not married to dictate policy for your wedding. Tell him it stops now. You will accept his gift as a donation but not a dictator ship. He is invited but she is not. If he chooses not to come hat decision is his. He’s already lost one son dies he want to lose his daughter too? Put it to him just like that. Don’t pussy foot around. You’re all adults. He must live with her in her house for her to have made that accusation. Her goal is to separate and isolate him from his kids. Let him understand that is what’s on the line. Period!
I'm a vegan veganista from veganville and I'll say it myself - the dad's girlfriend is gaga. Vegans get cancer. It can happen to anyone. Almond milk is unsuitable for babies - no sensible vegan would advocate such nonsense. Breast milk is best (well d'oh). If I wanted to bury the bones of each animal eaten at my workplace canteen, my boss would tell me to stop it and go back to my desk. By the way, she's vegan. I suppose if my child wanted a wedding breakfast with meat, I'd say: you want meat, you pay for it. The rest, as in dress, veil, flowers, whatever food/drink was vegan, invites, hen do, premises rental, DJ, transport, child entertainer, and any other activity during the day (some people have a Photo Booth with props, something like that.)
Women like her are why vegans have such a bad reputation. My sister & her family are vegan and it has never been an issue. When I invite the family over for dinner I always make sure there are vegan options (there's SO much more than just salad or vegetables you can offer). Your Dad is a fool to allow this judgmental evil b*tch to have any say whatsoever. (And she's obviously got some mental health issues. How exactly were you going to "Steal" her father's house?)
I know exactly what you mean, you need run from this woman and your father now!!!!! My father too chose a woman over his children and it ruined our childhood and we all have had mental health issues into out our adult lives. Any father who chooses a woman over his children is not a man and does not deserve the honor of walking you down the aisle or attending your wedding. YOU DESERVE TO HAVE THE HAPPIEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE !!!!!! DO WHAT YOU DO,FORGET THEM BOTH. About the menu why couldn't they have just suggested a buffet and you do some vegan dishes and some of the dishes you choose. This women is CRAZY I know the one with my sperm donor was also. You can't control other people, sbe has a serious problem. Please for you and your families safety stay away from this woman. Hopefully I'd your father is a true father he will come to his senses and put his children first and kick old girl to the curb. Best of luck!!!!!!!! HAVE A WONDERFUL STRESS FREE DAY, AND ENJOY YOUR DAY NOT THIERS,
I love eating vegan,usually with a side T-Bone steak,or some nice double Center cut Pork Chops,or even rack of Lamb,Turkey is a good choice to,and WE cant forget Chicken,or Salmon,,,,,,,oh no,almost forgot my Delicious Sausage,,,,,,,these people for he most part are nutz,and their looks and health wont last,,,,remember,you are what you eat,,,,Sceew them,dont worry about IT bc THEY wont,and hold ot TILL they come traveling up your DRIVEWAY bc THERE dying to see THEIR Grandchild,,,make empty work for it,,,,,,,you can pic your nose,your friends,but YOU cant pic relatives,,,DONT EVER GIVE IN,,,WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE.I WOULD NOT GIVE IT A SECOND THOUGHT,,,,,PEOPLE THAT KNOW AND LOVE YOU WILL KNOW THE DEAL,,,,ENJOY,,,AND DONT FORGET COMPROMISE MAKES AN EASY MARRIAGE,,,,,TRIED IT TWICE,,LOL
Your post made me hungry. Seeing my way into my kitchen to make a salad to go with my Chorizo enhanced Chili. ;D
Load More Replies... I'm a bit concerned she is not well; veganism is like a cult and she appears to be infected with its radical ideology. Now this is not coming from the point of view of hating them - I've been a vegetarian for 40 years, but this thinking really is dangerous and she pulled your father in. At this time I would avoid them like they are infected. After your wedding you might want to talk to your father away from her... but like most people who are radicalized he made get very angry and defensive
I feel so bad for her! she lost her dad on her wedding day to some crazy b!+ch and it's horrible. I'm not against vegans, I 100 percent support them, but she is not acting like a vegan she is acting like a psycho. my aunt is like that. I come from a family of Christians and her and my uncle are jw's. my Christian family all went to their wedding with no complaint, but they refused to go to my wedding because it was in a church. I don't understand
NTA. Why would anyone want this drama in their lives? Father's girlfriend seems to have a few screws loose. Too bad father can't see it. So gf accuses OP of trying to put a claim in HER father's house? A person she doesn't even know? Definitely, this woman has mental problems. Her actions are by no means normal and have nothing to do with her being vegan. She's just a wacko. And her medical thoughts are dangerous. OP did the right thing. Father and the weirdo girlfriend should not be at the wedding. They'll create way too much drama. It's too bad. There may be a time when dad finally comes to his senses, but it may be too late. Father will be missing out on so many things in his family's lives.
Was your dad vegan before he met this lady or not one? I bet he wasn't and she got him on it by being controlling. I would dis invite the gf to the wedding not your dad, and if your dad doesn't come he will regret it trust me. Sounds like he needs to get a way from this crazy lunatic of a lady. He should care more about you and your feelings than her!
It is YOUR wedding day, NOT HERS! Therefore, do your best to pay for YOUR wedding and have it the way you prefer. When she gets married, she can have her wedding the way she desires. She wouldn't oblige if you were to demand a menu with steak or chicken for her wedding! When she gets married then she can call the shots! My wedding was small and intimate because we were on a very tight budget. My mom, my older sisters, my mother-in-law, my brother-in-law, and my husband's stepfather each contributed in different ways using their connections and resources, not necessarily financial contributions. My mother walked me down the aisle, gave me away, and we danced a mother/daughter dance. Best decision I made to have my mom step into what is traditionally known to be the "father's" role. My older sister had our grandfather do the honors. Shame on your dad! You are his seed, his blood and his children should come before any girlfriend of his. He will live to regret his decision.
While my situation wasn't bad like this, didn't want to deal with opinions, control, or any of the other hassle of a traditional wedding, so we flew to Jamaica and got married on the beach. We decided that the day is about the two of us, not pleasing a hundred people, and 8 years later are still extremely satisfied with our decision. We still regularly reminisce about all of our cool experiences there.
Paid for my own wedding 18 years ago. Anyone started to chirp about anything other than my soon to be wife I told them to buzz off or write me a check for 25k on the spot. They all stopped chirping. I had meat, fish, veggie and vegan options for all attending. You’re a grown up. Pick what you wish to eat.
After all that's been said, I firmly believe that her father has lost his sense of direction and the girlfriend must be hot in bed...because no man with an ounce of intelligence would tolerate such a radioactive psycho. My condolences to the bride.
Your dad is a totally p@@@say whipped idiot, and his girlfriend is t C U Next Tuesday.
I think you need to ask yourself if you would be happier with Dad in your life, or without him. With him comes the woman who stages funerals for dinner entrees. Without him you don't have some fanatic in your ear all the time about a lifestyle you don't share. Do you choose constant drama or peace in your life?
NTA, I'm sorry your father got involved with this obnoxious a*****e. As soon as she tried to control what guests could wear even he should have realized how nuts she is. Dressy/casual are pretty much the only reasonable suggestions. And yes, vegans get cancer. No, babies cannot have almond milk. Show him this thread. Love may be blind but this is beyond stupid.
Lots of news stories about starving babies in the ER. Or ones that even starve to death because they were being fed Almond milk. Humans are mammals and our infants are genetically designed to need mammal milk. (Breast feeding is really the healthiest option, though if the Mom can't produce enough milk or the child has certain allergies then formula is neccesary) Even herbivore mammals feed thier young on milk.
Your dad has A.D.D. Adult Doofus D**k. She is going to rob him blind and leave him in the sh***y diaper retirement home for dumbasses. If he misses your wedding based off of her and not YOU whom he's known your whole life, he may deserve it. Tell him to start stocking up on Depends. And his girlfriend sounds like a ditz whose one cabbage head away from being snatched by a Cult
NTA Your dad's girlfriend sound awful hard work. You should uninvite them and ask your mom to walk you down the aisle, have a lovely wedding and a fun day 😊
Weddings are about bringing families together not driving them apart. People have so much trouble finding common ground, it's amazing they get along at all. Weddings should be about celebrating love and happiness not politics , beliefs and choices you make in your life.
Naw. You should invite them. Add a note to everyone else's invite about the vegan couple and state if they ask about anything it's vegan. Just make them think it is. Let your dad pay for it for the stress his wife is causing. Make sure you have some select people to guard her an her conversations and if she gets out of hand get her escorted off the property and out of the event. Everyone would gladly play along with everything being vegan. Just have the caterers take any bones out of the food (meats) and state it's all soy made to look like real meats. You can tell the actual vegan guests what is vegan. And cater to them that aren't insane. I'm sure the DJ has vegan lps to spin too. Lol.
You are so SOOOO completely not the AH here! Your dad's girlfriend is…and so is your dad for going along with her insanity instead of being with you on this. Sadly, she is probably suffering from a delusional disorder, and a host of disorders as well…and, because your dad loves her, he'd rather believe she's right than accept that she's insane…so he follows her down her delusional hole. They may both have some early onset dementia too! You're smart…and kind to your other guests… to disinvite them from the wedding, but, keep an eye on your dad moving forward. This relationship will sour at some point, and if you want him in your life, you have to allow him some grace because love makes you believe stupid things.
What a f*cking nutcase! I would never DREAM of telling someone how they "had" to conduct their wedding, vegan or not. She is the reason vegans get such a bad name. Burying chicken bones is absolutely insane. My sister & her family are vegan. It has never once been a problem. I had a family dinner about once a month and always made sure to respect her choice to be vegan. Spaghetti Bolognese, but the Italian Sausage was served separately, with salad, tomato bruschetta, roasted garlic, etc. No big deal. Or "build your own" Greek salad. Huge bowl of greens and everything else in separate bowls: chickpeas, red onion, cucumber, feta, salami, olives, with a nice hummus and some Naan. I usually made a fruit galette for dinner with puff pastry that had vegan butter. It was never a bother to make a few minor adjustments.
Veganism is not an extreme view at all. It's only a logical and moral view just like atheism.
You know full well YNTA. As to the vegans not getting cancer, how then do babies get it ?
Coming to the wedding doesn't have to mean you stay for the reception, although it would be weird for the father of the bride to not be there. In this case it doesn't mater one way or another since they want all things to be vegan and not just the reception meal.
So much entitlement coming from this gf she needs to get thrown off a cliff and OP's dad needs to come back to reality and see how his actions affect his children
The only one with an excuse to make 'unreasonable' demands on her wedding day is the bride. Or maybe the groom.
NTA... seriously, invite them, order a cow and cut it up, and barbecue it next to her table. Before they show up, make sure everyone knows what she's like by sending flyers out explaining what she is, what she will do, and then let everyone know she's the entertainment. Have some serious fun with this. And by all means, record it!!! Since your so called "Dad" has clearly left you behind, return the favor. It's a win/win. Free entertainment, and the wedding gets paid for. Oh... and don't forget to send it to everyone that supports you. We wanna see it. 🤣
Fanatics of all stripes are at minimum annoying.
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As both a trained Culinarian and someone with digestive issues, this is LUDICROUS. 🤦♀️
Why on earth would this person even ask a.i.t.a? Seriously??? Lady, you annoy me more than your dad and 'xena the vegan warrior.' How can u not figure out they're the AHoles?
This, in my opinion, is proof of fiction. Too simple an outcome for an outlandish scenario. I vote NRL (not real life)
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Well hopefully he isn't paying for your wedding because I would cancel paying for it
I agree they sound tiresome and uninvited is the way to go. But I "learned" on a YouTube (soooo true? Not true? Who knows) body language expert person doing an interrogation that prefacing a sentence with "honestly" usually means it is not honest. So now I'm wondering if it truly is about money. I took a nap and my mind is on overdrive...
In my generation using the word "Honestly" in this context was merely a expression of frustration. (People tried to cuss less back then and so had a whole plethora of different phrases to express our frustrations and annoyances.) Like Malarkey (means nonsense) bullpucky, Shoot, Darn, Drat, Dag Nabbit, etc etc.
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Except he's not avoiding funding an industry by controlling guests. Those guests have already paid for their clothes and non-vegan whatnot. He could reject paying for her dress and menu if it's against his morals, but still pay for the venue.
Load More Replies... don't tempt stupid - but it's definitely going up in the top 5 for the day!
Load More Replies... I don't care about vegan or not... But I care about pressure and really stupid advice about giving newborns almond milk! There is a reason why we breastfeed. Our milk suits our babies. Don't get me started about vitamins, fat, aminoacids etc. that is not enough of in vegan diet for babies and toddlers up to at least 2 y.
Is that seriously a thing?? How does a mother giving her child milk offend vegans?? It's purely natural and not exploiting animals... at alll. Should squirrel mothers not suckle thier offspring?
Load More Replies... NTA. Your dad is under the spell of this toxic woman and he doesn't realize that she's causing him to be estranged from his children. She needs to go.
Almond milk can cause malnourishment in a baby 🤦🏻♀️ wow I hate the holier than thou attitude some vegans have. It’s definitely a way to deter people from even considering it. I don’t blame the OP from uninviting them
You're absolutely right and I agree. It really is. I've said before acting so holier than thou and even rude isn't going to help them spread their message and doesn't actually encourage people to be vegan. There are better ways to educate and talk to people about it.
Load More Replies... I wouldn't trust her to not dig up the churchyard and bury your guest's shoes, wallets and handbags. Better they not attend.
I couldn't deal with that woman as patiently as OP is. Like I would invite them to dinner and kill the chicken in front of them before roasting it with vegetables.
I use chicken bones for broth later. B*tch better NOT steal my food.
Load More Replies... I wonder if her accusations about the step daughter trying to steal her house are about the father wanting to give money to help his daughter and the step mother seeing that as her money being taken and used? I just think the father is disingenuous in his actions somehow especially the vegan rift that gets him out of paying for his daughter's wedding.
And here was I feeling nasty for thinking such a thing. Glad I am not the only one
Load More Replies... Loving the almond milk for a newborn 🤦🏼♀️ It was just in the news about a mom who did this and the baby died because of lack of nutrients. GF sounds like she has dad wrapped around her finger. And dad seems to worship the almighty P more than the relationship with his own children.
Veganism as part of a healthy diet, I have no problem with. Veganism as a self-righteous lifestyle makes me want to punch somebody in the face. It has al.ist become a cult to some people, with tenets that may not be questioned. If Dad's GF cares so much, tell her to research how spectacularly harmful almond milk is for the environment, especially how it is decimating bee populations.
I was a vegetarian for 9 years. Meat still isn’t my favorite food, but I had to reestablish balance in my diet for my health. But before reincorporating meat, I shifted to all-vegan, then to a pescatarian-diet. I came to realize that no amount of high-quality vitamins/ supplementation or “vegan-based amino-acid combinations” could give me the essentials I was missing: specifically, b-vitamins, iron and zinc. And these are especially important for managing good mental health and energy (women lose about 1 mg of iron during each menses; some lose 5-6x more). But you’re right: some people I encountered along the way were absolutely militant and delusional about their dietary preferences, and will not accept that what biologically works well for some, doesn’t work well for others, even when we *really* want it to.
Load More Replies... Given OP’s description of seemingly random accusations by dad’s GF about her “intentions with GF’s inheritance money,” I suspect projection: As in, what are GF’s intentions with OP’s dad’s money? Not only did GF create (what she had to know would be) a stipulation you’d never agree to—she got you to reject dad’s money and disinvite him: because OF COURSE. She’s squeezing you out. You did what any sane person would do (I suspect GF depended on it). All the red flags, and your dad is a fool for not seeing them.
NTA.This post screams, "GOLDDIGGING S**T-STIRRER!" This woman is worse than the fiancé in "The Parent Trap." OP's father is about to learn a painful lesson about trading his family for a narcissist. If he wants to try and mend fences, he should offer the two a vegan option. If they accept, well and good. If not, OP and his bride should enjoy their day, and make sure that security is in place. That kind of nastiness has no place at what is going to be the happiest day of their lives.
Load More Replies... The goal is to have the dad discard his original family and she has achieved it. Invite dad to attend without her but he won’t.
That lady is a big, walking yikes. Obviously, she needs some therapy. As for the almond milk....I read in the news recently that some woman was giving her baby exclusively almond milk (because a website perpetuating harmful advice told her to) and she ended up starving her baby.
Total bollox, even vegans understand that baby mammals live on milk
Load More Replies... Definitely NTA. Just because she's vegan doesn't mean she can control everyone else lives.
"dear father, since you have proven that your word/ promise means nothing, I am sure you understand that my word to include you and entitled step woman, in my life means nothing. WE have decided that your love of esw, is more important than a relationship with your children and possible future grandchildren. Have a nice life ALONE
Fairly obvious solution. Refuse his money but still invite them, offer then a vegan food option, but don't do anything else vegan. The onus is then on him to choose what is most important , his vegan views or attending his daughters wedding.
While on paper your solution is simple and elegant, I feel in practicality that you can't trust the father's gf to keep her mouth closed if she were to attend. Sounds like she has no filter and suffers from the inability to care that the wedding is not the time or place for her extreme vegan view. IMHO
Load More Replies... Can we say..gaslighting? This woman is totally unhinged and dear old dad is drinking the purple koolaid. Cancer don't care if you're vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian, omnivore or anything else, you're fair game! These two need to take off the tinfoil hats and get off the Crazy Train. OP needs to cut off all communication with these two loony tunes.
The looney tunes were far far more sensible than those two.
Load More Replies... If it were me, I'd go no contact, and I'd be explicit about the reasons (to the point of making this ridiculously entitled new wife cry) to get the point across that you will in NO WAY tolerate this abuse in your life or the life of your children moving forward, and so long as they COME as a package deal, they GO as a package deal. Offending them with the truth before parting ways may be the only way to make a clean break. I could totally see this woman stalking and harassing you, because once daddy starts to get sad, she will absolutely turn her claws your way and start demanding time with your kids, either because she feels they are entitled to it or she feels that you are an unfit mom because of your non vegan status. She is that specific type of unhinged. Be prepared and stay safe!
The GF is about only one thing. Separating the OP from her father. Why? Well. she's obviously into control! But I suspect another reason. The GF keeps making irrelevant references to diverting inheritances. This may be because she has in mind getting the daughter out of dad's will and herself in.
So many things wrong with your father and his choices. That is fodder for a psychologist and you can't fix it, but you can block it. Stay healthy and happy and far away from any source of control that is not in your best interests. Your father is as guilty as his girlfriend because he is complicit. You can't put a dollar amount on happiness and sanity.
Very sad that his choice in partner is having a detrimental effect on his relationship with his kids. She is effectively ruining his chance of walking his daughter down the aisle and being a part of her day. One might wonder if this is her ultimate agenda, sounds like it. He is to blame though for allowing her to dictate to him. Shame, but demanding someone else have a 'vegan' wedding because of your own needs and wants is really beyond bonkers.
If this story is not fictitious, 🤔 then obviously NTA, it is ludicrous to imagine forcing 98 people to appease 2 lunatics. This comment may not be pretty, but it is objective. (I used the number 100 for ease of illustration)
If this crazy KBT lunatic actually exists (see its comment; cray creature is too afraid to allow intelligent people to reply to it 🤣), that’s proof that there is absolutely nothing too insane to be real.
Load More Replies... A baby in Belgium died from vegan milk. Do vegan’s understand that mammal babies are meant to drink their mother’s milk? Here’s a news article about a Florida baby that was given almond milk exclusively and almost starved to death: https://ustoday.news/a-baby-lost-weight-and-vomited-at-the-hospital-doctors-determined-he-was-starving-to-death-on-an-almond-milk-diet/ As a former vegetarian, I understand the pros of a vegan lifestyle but I also see the extremism.
Dad's gf is mentally/ emotionally ill, likely untreated, & will be a problem in most social settings. This has nothing to do w/ veganism- it's simply a narrative gf uses to act out. She's evidently holding dad emotionally hostage & sadly OP can do little about it. She has the power people give her. She's delusional & possibly dangerous. Hard NTA & I recommend avoiding the woman whenever possible. A simple or pared-down wedding/reception is small price to pay for having peace of mind at one's own wedding.
I'm a Vegan, but I don't push my lifestyle on people. If they ask me questions about being Vegan, I of course answer them, but I know that my friends and family are carnivores, and they know that I'm Vegan, and we respect that about each other. I wouldn't even ask someone to put their child on a Vegan diet, because I believe that children shouldn't have views forced on them, they should make their own lifestyle choices, and they also need extra calories, and nutrients that the Vegan diet doesn't have. Your father really needs to get a grip, and decide who's more important his children, or his girlfriend? His lifestyle views, or his daughter's happiness? It's your wedding Hon, and you do it how you want to. If you want to have Vegan options for food great, but if you don't, still great, they could've asked you if they could bring some Vegan food, so they could enjoy your day with you. This is your day, not their day.
I think the father has already made that decision. It's sad but OP can live without him. Blood is not always thicker than water. You can choose your friends but not your family.
Load More Replies... I haven’t spoken to either of my parents in 22 years and neither has my brothers, just because they brought you into this world, you don’t have to stand their toxic BS, be you and have a great wedding day
It’s been 34 years since I’ve seen, spoken to, or heard about my so-called ‘parents’. I haven’t even been back to the state they lived in (I don’t know if they are still alive), nor even crossed the state’s airspace. Blood means absolutely nothing; actions are everything!
Load More Replies... I'm a Vegan, because after a lot of tests, it was discovered that I'm allergic to all animal protein. I don't force my lifestyle on anyone, and I expect the same thing done for me. You sound like a reasonable person, and I'm sure that you would've been fine with Vegan options even, but the whole wedding made Vegan including what was worn, is ridiculous for your father and his girlfriend to ask to be done. I don't believe putting a child on Vegan diet is healthy, because they need extra calories and nutrients that the Vegan diet doesn't have, and they'll have to take supplements like an adult Vegan, but that's to much on a child. I also believe in not forcing views on a child, that you let them make their own choices in life. Your father needs to get a grip, and decide if his children, and daughter's happiness on her special day, are more important than his and his girlfriend's views. She gives Vegans like me, who respect other people's lifestyles, a bad name.
I would go NC tbh. That woman is abusive, plain and simple. Your dad is an adult, albeit with really bad judgement of character, but he has chosen this person. If and when he turns her away then be open to reconciliation. Really sad, but out of your hands.
Kimberly, you are much kinder than I would be. In such circumstances, I don't think I would be open to reconciliation. "What's done cannot be undone." (Quotation from MacBeth).
Load More Replies... Tbh, asking for only vegan food is a bit far imo. Nevermind dictating what OTHER GUESTS do. F**k em
I'm not a vegan, vegetarian, or whatever other crazy non meat eating diets that are out there! I have all the respect in the world for how others choose to live their lives! Ya with friends I will joke around OCCASIONALLY and they give it right back to me. How others choose to live their life or eat what food they want to eat is none of my business if it makes them happy! I absolutely DESPISE people out there that push their agenda on others and shame people for living a life that best suits them! To take that a step (actually more like 10 steps) further and try and force someone, especially your future step daughter, to have a wedding that they think is best when their interests are only about themselves and not anyone else involved! Honestly, after the chicken "funeral" (lmao, WOW) I would have cut bait right then and there! She obviously has some mental issues and clearly believes she is above other people. You already know the answer to the question you are asking! NTA!
Dad's girlfriend is extremely insecure and jealous of his relationship with his daughter. She has been trying to break their bond and it sounds like she finally succeeded. When she mentioned it being easier on her siblings, I think the girlfriend's been very busy breaking his bonds with all his children. Then she has him all to herself. It's sad and sick really.
If my dad ever picked an insane lady over me then I wouldn't want him in my life anymore. Thankfully, he would never do that.
I really don't care about the vegan thing. Yes I will make sure there's a vegan option if there's a need but you get married the first time only once. So make everything the choice of you and your fiance. What bothers me is the dad's role as his relationship with his daughter is separate. It's a big milestone in her life where the girlfriend is not involved in. He taught you good values like respect but does not expect his girlfriend to give it to you or him respecting you. He still treats you like a ten year old. This woman may be gone a few months or a year from now and any accommodations you made for her will become part of your memory book. Don't allow your dad to ruin your big day because it will be his regret someday. He made his bed, let him lie on it. Girl cut him lose. NTA.
Not necessarily. Egg and milk are used in the refining process for a lot, especially wine.
Load More Replies... NTA However it sounds like your FATHER is. You are his “DAUGHTER.” Unless he’s daft he knows exactly what is going on and he is enjoying it. This is a cry for attention from your father. Clearly one area the outsider cannot control is having a private conversation with your father and let him know straight up your plans for he wedding. Also let him know that you are enraged he’d go to this x tent for attention by allowing a woman he is not married to dictate policy for your wedding. Tell him it stops now. You will accept his gift as a donation but not a dictator ship. He is invited but she is not. If he chooses not to come hat decision is his. He’s already lost one son dies he want to lose his daughter too? Put it to him just like that. Don’t pussy foot around. You’re all adults. He must live with her in her house for her to have made that accusation. Her goal is to separate and isolate him from his kids. Let him understand that is what’s on the line. Period!
I'm a vegan veganista from veganville and I'll say it myself - the dad's girlfriend is gaga. Vegans get cancer. It can happen to anyone. Almond milk is unsuitable for babies - no sensible vegan would advocate such nonsense. Breast milk is best (well d'oh). If I wanted to bury the bones of each animal eaten at my workplace canteen, my boss would tell me to stop it and go back to my desk. By the way, she's vegan. I suppose if my child wanted a wedding breakfast with meat, I'd say: you want meat, you pay for it. The rest, as in dress, veil, flowers, whatever food/drink was vegan, invites, hen do, premises rental, DJ, transport, child entertainer, and any other activity during the day (some people have a Photo Booth with props, something like that.)
Women like her are why vegans have such a bad reputation. My sister & her family are vegan and it has never been an issue. When I invite the family over for dinner I always make sure there are vegan options (there's SO much more than just salad or vegetables you can offer). Your Dad is a fool to allow this judgmental evil b*tch to have any say whatsoever. (And she's obviously got some mental health issues. How exactly were you going to "Steal" her father's house?)
I know exactly what you mean, you need run from this woman and your father now!!!!! My father too chose a woman over his children and it ruined our childhood and we all have had mental health issues into out our adult lives. Any father who chooses a woman over his children is not a man and does not deserve the honor of walking you down the aisle or attending your wedding. YOU DESERVE TO HAVE THE HAPPIEST DAY OF YOUR LIFE !!!!!! DO WHAT YOU DO,FORGET THEM BOTH. About the menu why couldn't they have just suggested a buffet and you do some vegan dishes and some of the dishes you choose. This women is CRAZY I know the one with my sperm donor was also. You can't control other people, sbe has a serious problem. Please for you and your families safety stay away from this woman. Hopefully I'd your father is a true father he will come to his senses and put his children first and kick old girl to the curb. Best of luck!!!!!!!! HAVE A WONDERFUL STRESS FREE DAY, AND ENJOY YOUR DAY NOT THIERS,
I love eating vegan,usually with a side T-Bone steak,or some nice double Center cut Pork Chops,or even rack of Lamb,Turkey is a good choice to,and WE cant forget Chicken,or Salmon,,,,,,,oh no,almost forgot my Delicious Sausage,,,,,,,these people for he most part are nutz,and their looks and health wont last,,,,remember,you are what you eat,,,,Sceew them,dont worry about IT bc THEY wont,and hold ot TILL they come traveling up your DRIVEWAY bc THERE dying to see THEIR Grandchild,,,make empty work for it,,,,,,,you can pic your nose,your friends,but YOU cant pic relatives,,,DONT EVER GIVE IN,,,WHO DO THEY THINK THEY ARE.I WOULD NOT GIVE IT A SECOND THOUGHT,,,,,PEOPLE THAT KNOW AND LOVE YOU WILL KNOW THE DEAL,,,,ENJOY,,,AND DONT FORGET COMPROMISE MAKES AN EASY MARRIAGE,,,,,TRIED IT TWICE,,LOL
Your post made me hungry. Seeing my way into my kitchen to make a salad to go with my Chorizo enhanced Chili. ;D
Load More Replies... I'm a bit concerned she is not well; veganism is like a cult and she appears to be infected with its radical ideology. Now this is not coming from the point of view of hating them - I've been a vegetarian for 40 years, but this thinking really is dangerous and she pulled your father in. At this time I would avoid them like they are infected. After your wedding you might want to talk to your father away from her... but like most people who are radicalized he made get very angry and defensive
I feel so bad for her! she lost her dad on her wedding day to some crazy b!+ch and it's horrible. I'm not against vegans, I 100 percent support them, but she is not acting like a vegan she is acting like a psycho. my aunt is like that. I come from a family of Christians and her and my uncle are jw's. my Christian family all went to their wedding with no complaint, but they refused to go to my wedding because it was in a church. I don't understand
NTA. Why would anyone want this drama in their lives? Father's girlfriend seems to have a few screws loose. Too bad father can't see it. So gf accuses OP of trying to put a claim in HER father's house? A person she doesn't even know? Definitely, this woman has mental problems. Her actions are by no means normal and have nothing to do with her being vegan. She's just a wacko. And her medical thoughts are dangerous. OP did the right thing. Father and the weirdo girlfriend should not be at the wedding. They'll create way too much drama. It's too bad. There may be a time when dad finally comes to his senses, but it may be too late. Father will be missing out on so many things in his family's lives.
Was your dad vegan before he met this lady or not one? I bet he wasn't and she got him on it by being controlling. I would dis invite the gf to the wedding not your dad, and if your dad doesn't come he will regret it trust me. Sounds like he needs to get a way from this crazy lunatic of a lady. He should care more about you and your feelings than her!
It is YOUR wedding day, NOT HERS! Therefore, do your best to pay for YOUR wedding and have it the way you prefer. When she gets married, she can have her wedding the way she desires. She wouldn't oblige if you were to demand a menu with steak or chicken for her wedding! When she gets married then she can call the shots! My wedding was small and intimate because we were on a very tight budget. My mom, my older sisters, my mother-in-law, my brother-in-law, and my husband's stepfather each contributed in different ways using their connections and resources, not necessarily financial contributions. My mother walked me down the aisle, gave me away, and we danced a mother/daughter dance. Best decision I made to have my mom step into what is traditionally known to be the "father's" role. My older sister had our grandfather do the honors. Shame on your dad! You are his seed, his blood and his children should come before any girlfriend of his. He will live to regret his decision.
While my situation wasn't bad like this, didn't want to deal with opinions, control, or any of the other hassle of a traditional wedding, so we flew to Jamaica and got married on the beach. We decided that the day is about the two of us, not pleasing a hundred people, and 8 years later are still extremely satisfied with our decision. We still regularly reminisce about all of our cool experiences there.
Paid for my own wedding 18 years ago. Anyone started to chirp about anything other than my soon to be wife I told them to buzz off or write me a check for 25k on the spot. They all stopped chirping. I had meat, fish, veggie and vegan options for all attending. You’re a grown up. Pick what you wish to eat.
After all that's been said, I firmly believe that her father has lost his sense of direction and the girlfriend must be hot in bed...because no man with an ounce of intelligence would tolerate such a radioactive psycho. My condolences to the bride.
Your dad is a totally p@@@say whipped idiot, and his girlfriend is t C U Next Tuesday.
I think you need to ask yourself if you would be happier with Dad in your life, or without him. With him comes the woman who stages funerals for dinner entrees. Without him you don't have some fanatic in your ear all the time about a lifestyle you don't share. Do you choose constant drama or peace in your life?
NTA, I'm sorry your father got involved with this obnoxious a*****e. As soon as she tried to control what guests could wear even he should have realized how nuts she is. Dressy/casual are pretty much the only reasonable suggestions. And yes, vegans get cancer. No, babies cannot have almond milk. Show him this thread. Love may be blind but this is beyond stupid.
Lots of news stories about starving babies in the ER. Or ones that even starve to death because they were being fed Almond milk. Humans are mammals and our infants are genetically designed to need mammal milk. (Breast feeding is really the healthiest option, though if the Mom can't produce enough milk or the child has certain allergies then formula is neccesary) Even herbivore mammals feed thier young on milk.
Your dad has A.D.D. Adult Doofus D**k. She is going to rob him blind and leave him in the sh***y diaper retirement home for dumbasses. If he misses your wedding based off of her and not YOU whom he's known your whole life, he may deserve it. Tell him to start stocking up on Depends. And his girlfriend sounds like a ditz whose one cabbage head away from being snatched by a Cult
NTA Your dad's girlfriend sound awful hard work. You should uninvite them and ask your mom to walk you down the aisle, have a lovely wedding and a fun day 😊
Weddings are about bringing families together not driving them apart. People have so much trouble finding common ground, it's amazing they get along at all. Weddings should be about celebrating love and happiness not politics , beliefs and choices you make in your life.
Naw. You should invite them. Add a note to everyone else's invite about the vegan couple and state if they ask about anything it's vegan. Just make them think it is. Let your dad pay for it for the stress his wife is causing. Make sure you have some select people to guard her an her conversations and if she gets out of hand get her escorted off the property and out of the event. Everyone would gladly play along with everything being vegan. Just have the caterers take any bones out of the food (meats) and state it's all soy made to look like real meats. You can tell the actual vegan guests what is vegan. And cater to them that aren't insane. I'm sure the DJ has vegan lps to spin too. Lol.
You are so SOOOO completely not the AH here! Your dad's girlfriend is…and so is your dad for going along with her insanity instead of being with you on this. Sadly, she is probably suffering from a delusional disorder, and a host of disorders as well…and, because your dad loves her, he'd rather believe she's right than accept that she's insane…so he follows her down her delusional hole. They may both have some early onset dementia too! You're smart…and kind to your other guests… to disinvite them from the wedding, but, keep an eye on your dad moving forward. This relationship will sour at some point, and if you want him in your life, you have to allow him some grace because love makes you believe stupid things.
What a f*cking nutcase! I would never DREAM of telling someone how they "had" to conduct their wedding, vegan or not. She is the reason vegans get such a bad name. Burying chicken bones is absolutely insane. My sister & her family are vegan. It has never once been a problem. I had a family dinner about once a month and always made sure to respect her choice to be vegan. Spaghetti Bolognese, but the Italian Sausage was served separately, with salad, tomato bruschetta, roasted garlic, etc. No big deal. Or "build your own" Greek salad. Huge bowl of greens and everything else in separate bowls: chickpeas, red onion, cucumber, feta, salami, olives, with a nice hummus and some Naan. I usually made a fruit galette for dinner with puff pastry that had vegan butter. It was never a bother to make a few minor adjustments.
Veganism is not an extreme view at all. It's only a logical and moral view just like atheism.
You know full well YNTA. As to the vegans not getting cancer, how then do babies get it ?
Coming to the wedding doesn't have to mean you stay for the reception, although it would be weird for the father of the bride to not be there. In this case it doesn't mater one way or another since they want all things to be vegan and not just the reception meal.
So much entitlement coming from this gf she needs to get thrown off a cliff and OP's dad needs to come back to reality and see how his actions affect his children
The only one with an excuse to make 'unreasonable' demands on her wedding day is the bride. Or maybe the groom.
NTA... seriously, invite them, order a cow and cut it up, and barbecue it next to her table. Before they show up, make sure everyone knows what she's like by sending flyers out explaining what she is, what she will do, and then let everyone know she's the entertainment. Have some serious fun with this. And by all means, record it!!! Since your so called "Dad" has clearly left you behind, return the favor. It's a win/win. Free entertainment, and the wedding gets paid for. Oh... and don't forget to send it to everyone that supports you. We wanna see it. 🤣
Fanatics of all stripes are at minimum annoying.
Load More Replies... As both a trained Culinarian and someone with digestive issues, this is LUDICROUS. 🤦♀️
Why on earth would this person even ask a.i.t.a? Seriously??? Lady, you annoy me more than your dad and 'xena the vegan warrior.' How can u not figure out they're the AHoles?
This, in my opinion, is proof of fiction. Too simple an outcome for an outlandish scenario. I vote NRL (not real life)
Load More Replies... Well hopefully he isn't paying for your wedding because I would cancel paying for it
I agree they sound tiresome and uninvited is the way to go. But I "learned" on a YouTube (soooo true? Not true? Who knows) body language expert person doing an interrogation that prefacing a sentence with "honestly" usually means it is not honest. So now I'm wondering if it truly is about money. I took a nap and my mind is on overdrive...
In my generation using the word "Honestly" in this context was merely a expression of frustration. (People tried to cuss less back then and so had a whole plethora of different phrases to express our frustrations and annoyances.) Like Malarkey (means nonsense) bullpucky, Shoot, Darn, Drat, Dag Nabbit, etc etc.
Load More Replies... Except he's not avoiding funding an industry by controlling guests. Those guests have already paid for their clothes and non-vegan whatnot. He could reject paying for her dress and menu if it's against his morals, but still pay for the venue.
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