Anti-Vaxx Mom Tries To Bring Her Unvaccinated Kids Around Best Friend’s Infant, She Leaves A Brutal Comment
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The anti-vaxxer community is no longer just a radical group on the internet that inspires memes but has led to a very real outbreak of more than 200 cases across 11 states. The situation is so dire that the The US Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions held a congressional hearing called “Vaccines Save Lives: What is Driving Preventable Disease Outbreaks?” to discuss how they were going to handle the situation.
While lawmakers are going back and forth about the possibility of mandatory vaccinations, parents are not waiting around and taking matters into their own hands in order to protect their kids. One woman in Portland, located in one of the hardest hit regions, wrote a scathing post about how to handle these anti-vaxxers, that shows this crisis has not only affected people’s health but also their relationships. (Facebook cover image: sisterwisdom)
A mother took to Facebook to call out anti-vaxxers in a brutal post, which targeted her former best friend of 15 years
Image credits: Sagie (not the actual photo)
Published in the sub-reddit group r/insanepeoplefacebook the Portland mother slammed her anti-vaxxer former friend, Emma, for almost putting her infant daughter in danger by attempting to bring her unvaccinated children to meet up with her and her child, who was too young to be vaccinated.
According to the Center for Disease Control and Prevention, children can receive their first measles vaccine (MMR) at 12 months and the second before entering school from ages 4-6. If young children are infected by measles the effects can be extremely serious. The disease can lead to pneumonia, encephalitis (swelling of the brain and even death.
The woman goes on to say that Emma didn’t inform her that she would be exposing her child to diseases any “any responsible parent would have vaccinated their of-age children against.” She criticized the anti-vaxxer mom’s behavior calling it “selfish,” and “reckless.” In the end, she adds that since the woman is “unable to determine the differences between a health blog and peer-reviewed fact-based science” the best solution is that she and her fellow conspiracy theorists “found another planet and moved there.”
People in the comments agreed with the mom’s harsh words
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The is no such thing as Anti-Vaxx. It's Pro-Plague. Read that on Twitter today and I wholeheartedly agree. Disease-spreading imbeciles...
Stealing 'Pro-Plague'. Love that!
if we could contain the plague to certain segments of the population... I'd be all pro plague. For the record, those segments would be all politicians and their most ardent supporters.
I can already see the tag #plaguelivesmatter trending in the future.....
Oh no! *Face palm*
Grandfather Nurgle wholeheartedly likes these Pro-Plague heretics you speak of.
Niiiiiice
I'm pro vaccines. I am also anti-twitter cess pools.
Excellent. And the opposite of pro-choice is anti-choice. But people don't get that either.
They are pretty anti-choice; they think if you get pregnant, you’re having a baby 40 weeks later, unless nature causes a miscarriage.
The comment that kills me is the moron who thinks there are "too many" vaccines. Really? What diseases do you want your child to get? Vaccinations are about public health. They should NOT be voluntary - they should be the law. Thankfully school districts are wising up and not letting phoney "religious" exemptions destroy herd immunity in their buildings.
Well, different countries vaccinate for different things - so the UK doesn't currently vaccinate against chicken pox presumably because the cost vs danger level analysis doesn't support it, but in the US I think you do - so there are going to be 'borderline'' illnesses which some countries vax for and others don't, which might make someone in one country ask if a particular vax is necessary if another (responsible) country doesn't. In the UK we vax for HPV at age 12 and I don't know if the US does that, so that could be another 'borderline' illness. But yes, measles, mumps, rubella, diptheria, polio, tetanus and I think some of the meningitises the UK vaxxes for. It's not compulsory though and we're having soem of the same problems with anti vaxxers.
We do tuberculosis as well, thinking about it, tho some parts of the UK do it at birth and some at 12 yrs.
Yes we do vaccinate for HPV
I believe HPV is not mandatory in the US at this point, but they do push the ads on TV!! Some guilt trip laying ads even! I don’t have kids so I think I’ve heard my cousin talking about having to get chicken pox vaccines for her kids, and it doesn’t prevent or lessen shingles, there’s a different vaccine for that when you get older.
we do small pox as routine. chicken pox only came out a while ago, and is more of a QoL (because the shingles virus going acute is no joke.)
The chicken pox one is surprising, be cause if you don't have chicken pox, the chances of getting shingles is considerably reduced and shingles is no joke. My grandma had it bad last year and it left her blind in one eye, a bald spot on her head where the hair won't grow back. She had bouts of head pain where she just lay there and screamed. It was awful
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I couldn't agree more. Until we eradicate the infectious diseases that vaccines are protecting us against, vaccines for infectious diseases should really be mandatory. As it is right now, these anti-vaxxers are just spreading disease, as well as mutating them. Which will make our current vaccines ineffective and put even more lives at risk. What really boggles my mind, is that most of these parents were vaccinated themselves... and they're still fine? So why do they think it's better if their kids don't get vaccinated? It makes no sense.
Perhaps they mean things like chicken pox? I'm fairly young and I still grew up with chicken-pox-parties. If you've experienced it you might be more likely to downplay the risks.
I believe they are not vaccinating against childhood chickenpox so much as the adult flare up of this virus into shingles - which is a terrible painful thing. "Anyone who has ever had chickenpox can develop shingles. Most adults in the United States had chickenpox when they were children, before the advent of the routine childhood vaccination that now protects against chickenpox." Valid actual scientic source - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/shingles/symptoms-causes/syc-20353054
Chicken-pox can still be dangerous - and hell-on-earth for many sufferers. Not fatal, but if I had a child I would wish to spare it the weeks of illness. Chicken pox isnt just like a cold - especially when you are too young to really remember having it. My brother and I both contracted it together - He was 4 and doesnt remember - I was 11 and do.
Chicken pox in youth can (CAN, not will) lead to shingles as an adult. I've known a few people who had shingles and it's terrible. My dad almost went blind.
Had chicken pox parties here too. Apparently the younger you caught it the less severe it would generally be. Parents wanted to get it over with asap when they were toddlers.
Back 10 years ago when the swine flu was a thing at risk groups and children under three were recommended a vaccine. My son was 4 or 5 at the time and I didn't vaccinate him, and there were many cases afterward of it giving kids narcolepsy in my country. More than a handful of cases. We also don't get the influenza-shots. But he's been vaccinated for everything else, and also hep a and b and yellow fever because we've been to Africa a few times since before he started school.
The European vaccine schedule is different from the US one. Presumably Europeans care a lot about public health (more than we do in the US), and presumably there's good science over there dictating their vaccination schedule and less corporate control over what vaccines are included. My child is fully vaccinated, and she got a lot more vaccines than I did as a child in Europe. Are they all necessary? Are they all effective? Do I trust Big Pharma to tell me the truth on it?
The only reason kids today get more is that they have developed more since the first ones were introduced. In the 1970's there were vaccinations for 7 diseases. 6 of them were comined as 2 seperate vaccines -MMR and DTP. In the mid 80's it was 8 diseases. With the development of protection against chicken pox in the mid 90's then Hepatitis A ,Rotavirus and some others by 2010 there were vaccines against 14 diseases (still 6 combined as 2). Not counting HPV.
If not for government funding and heavy subsidies, there would be no vaccines at all. There is NO PROFIT in making vaccines. If pharmaceutical companies really wanted to clean up, all they would have to do is quit making vaccines, buy hospitals with massive children's wings, and manufacture painkillers, anti-inflammatories and pain meds. ...///... Grow up, Lara.
I question giving so many different shots at one time...the CDC rationale is to 'save parents time and money' taking their children into the doctors...I suspect that is not a factor in European and other countries that have national health care.
I live the UK (free National Health Service) and they group them together quite a lot, but I don't know how that compares to the US.
I mean, I'd go with the CDC on this one, that's just me. Also: "Among the many anti-vaccine myths dutifully presented by fervent immunization opponents is the argument “Too Many, Too Soon.” It is often raised after all the other straw men about mercury, aluminum, autism, etc. have been knocked down. It falls in that category because it’s usually presented in the following way: “Okay, vaccines may work and may be safe, and may be effective in eradicating disease, but still my instinct tells me that Big Pharma/Big Government/Corrupt CDC/Uneducated Pediatricians are giving little babies too many vaccines all at once, and too soon for their little baby immune systems to handle.” There are variations on this theme, including “One Size Does Not Fit All” and “They Didn’t Give That Many Back In My Day." It can be an effective argument when presented to someone who is unclear or misinformed about the way vaccines and our immune systems work." https://www.immunizeusa.org/blog/2017/june/01/suh/
@aurora50 I have this happen a lot. It looks like it double-posts, but unless you reply to your own comment it won't actually post it. At least, if it's the same error I get. Try refreshing the page to make sure, I find the second one usually disappears. :)
ps...this is the second time a single reply of mine created double-posts...sorry, don't know what's causing that.
In the US as far as too many. If you are old enough, do you have a vaccination mark? Ask how many vaccines were in that? You just had them all at the same time!
Anti-vaxx and Flatearthers... What´s next? Sacriface virgin girls to the glory of the Sun God? Inquisition 2.0? 21st. Century, people...
I hope its not the sacrificing of virgin girls to the sun god. Would the sun accept anti-vaxx and flatearthers instead?
Naw, see, the idea of a sacrifice is giving up something you WANT.
well, how informed is the Sun God? maybe he doesn't know we don't want them?
Hollow earthers.
I just hope there is no modern witch hunts.
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People who accept religious myths about the creation of earth and life literally are on that same level. These are not only Christian creationist but I also met some Hindu fundamentalists and Muslim creationists.
Do you understand that you are saying that antivaxxers, who endanger their children's and the people around them's lives and are bringing back diseases that had been basically gone are the same as people like ME, who believe that the gods created the world? Do you understand how big of an asshole you sound? You do know that most of us are EDUCATED religious people that know the difference between science and religion and use both. You're proudly stating that we are as dumb as anti-vaxxers because we try to come up with explanations of how the world was created. You're unbelievable.
Jessica, you're a moron. Go home and grovel in front of a Roman torture device. The grownups are talking now.
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What’s crazy to me is how comfortable people get assuming that creationists are crazy! The Big Bang and evolution theory are just as fantastic in reach as creationism, there just isn’t a diety pulling the strings to explain it?
The is no such thing as Anti-Vaxx. It's Pro-Plague. Read that on Twitter today and I wholeheartedly agree. Disease-spreading imbeciles...
Stealing 'Pro-Plague'. Love that!
if we could contain the plague to certain segments of the population... I'd be all pro plague. For the record, those segments would be all politicians and their most ardent supporters.
I can already see the tag #plaguelivesmatter trending in the future.....
Oh no! *Face palm*
Grandfather Nurgle wholeheartedly likes these Pro-Plague heretics you speak of.
Niiiiiice
I'm pro vaccines. I am also anti-twitter cess pools.
Excellent. And the opposite of pro-choice is anti-choice. But people don't get that either.
They are pretty anti-choice; they think if you get pregnant, you’re having a baby 40 weeks later, unless nature causes a miscarriage.
The comment that kills me is the moron who thinks there are "too many" vaccines. Really? What diseases do you want your child to get? Vaccinations are about public health. They should NOT be voluntary - they should be the law. Thankfully school districts are wising up and not letting phoney "religious" exemptions destroy herd immunity in their buildings.
Well, different countries vaccinate for different things - so the UK doesn't currently vaccinate against chicken pox presumably because the cost vs danger level analysis doesn't support it, but in the US I think you do - so there are going to be 'borderline'' illnesses which some countries vax for and others don't, which might make someone in one country ask if a particular vax is necessary if another (responsible) country doesn't. In the UK we vax for HPV at age 12 and I don't know if the US does that, so that could be another 'borderline' illness. But yes, measles, mumps, rubella, diptheria, polio, tetanus and I think some of the meningitises the UK vaxxes for. It's not compulsory though and we're having soem of the same problems with anti vaxxers.
We do tuberculosis as well, thinking about it, tho some parts of the UK do it at birth and some at 12 yrs.
Yes we do vaccinate for HPV
I believe HPV is not mandatory in the US at this point, but they do push the ads on TV!! Some guilt trip laying ads even! I don’t have kids so I think I’ve heard my cousin talking about having to get chicken pox vaccines for her kids, and it doesn’t prevent or lessen shingles, there’s a different vaccine for that when you get older.
we do small pox as routine. chicken pox only came out a while ago, and is more of a QoL (because the shingles virus going acute is no joke.)
The chicken pox one is surprising, be cause if you don't have chicken pox, the chances of getting shingles is considerably reduced and shingles is no joke. My grandma had it bad last year and it left her blind in one eye, a bald spot on her head where the hair won't grow back. She had bouts of head pain where she just lay there and screamed. It was awful
This comment has been deleted.
I couldn't agree more. Until we eradicate the infectious diseases that vaccines are protecting us against, vaccines for infectious diseases should really be mandatory. As it is right now, these anti-vaxxers are just spreading disease, as well as mutating them. Which will make our current vaccines ineffective and put even more lives at risk. What really boggles my mind, is that most of these parents were vaccinated themselves... and they're still fine? So why do they think it's better if their kids don't get vaccinated? It makes no sense.
Perhaps they mean things like chicken pox? I'm fairly young and I still grew up with chicken-pox-parties. If you've experienced it you might be more likely to downplay the risks.
I believe they are not vaccinating against childhood chickenpox so much as the adult flare up of this virus into shingles - which is a terrible painful thing. "Anyone who has ever had chickenpox can develop shingles. Most adults in the United States had chickenpox when they were children, before the advent of the routine childhood vaccination that now protects against chickenpox." Valid actual scientic source - https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/shingles/symptoms-causes/syc-20353054
Chicken-pox can still be dangerous - and hell-on-earth for many sufferers. Not fatal, but if I had a child I would wish to spare it the weeks of illness. Chicken pox isnt just like a cold - especially when you are too young to really remember having it. My brother and I both contracted it together - He was 4 and doesnt remember - I was 11 and do.
Chicken pox in youth can (CAN, not will) lead to shingles as an adult. I've known a few people who had shingles and it's terrible. My dad almost went blind.
Had chicken pox parties here too. Apparently the younger you caught it the less severe it would generally be. Parents wanted to get it over with asap when they were toddlers.
Back 10 years ago when the swine flu was a thing at risk groups and children under three were recommended a vaccine. My son was 4 or 5 at the time and I didn't vaccinate him, and there were many cases afterward of it giving kids narcolepsy in my country. More than a handful of cases. We also don't get the influenza-shots. But he's been vaccinated for everything else, and also hep a and b and yellow fever because we've been to Africa a few times since before he started school.
The European vaccine schedule is different from the US one. Presumably Europeans care a lot about public health (more than we do in the US), and presumably there's good science over there dictating their vaccination schedule and less corporate control over what vaccines are included. My child is fully vaccinated, and she got a lot more vaccines than I did as a child in Europe. Are they all necessary? Are they all effective? Do I trust Big Pharma to tell me the truth on it?
The only reason kids today get more is that they have developed more since the first ones were introduced. In the 1970's there were vaccinations for 7 diseases. 6 of them were comined as 2 seperate vaccines -MMR and DTP. In the mid 80's it was 8 diseases. With the development of protection against chicken pox in the mid 90's then Hepatitis A ,Rotavirus and some others by 2010 there were vaccines against 14 diseases (still 6 combined as 2). Not counting HPV.
If not for government funding and heavy subsidies, there would be no vaccines at all. There is NO PROFIT in making vaccines. If pharmaceutical companies really wanted to clean up, all they would have to do is quit making vaccines, buy hospitals with massive children's wings, and manufacture painkillers, anti-inflammatories and pain meds. ...///... Grow up, Lara.
I question giving so many different shots at one time...the CDC rationale is to 'save parents time and money' taking their children into the doctors...I suspect that is not a factor in European and other countries that have national health care.
I live the UK (free National Health Service) and they group them together quite a lot, but I don't know how that compares to the US.
I mean, I'd go with the CDC on this one, that's just me. Also: "Among the many anti-vaccine myths dutifully presented by fervent immunization opponents is the argument “Too Many, Too Soon.” It is often raised after all the other straw men about mercury, aluminum, autism, etc. have been knocked down. It falls in that category because it’s usually presented in the following way: “Okay, vaccines may work and may be safe, and may be effective in eradicating disease, but still my instinct tells me that Big Pharma/Big Government/Corrupt CDC/Uneducated Pediatricians are giving little babies too many vaccines all at once, and too soon for their little baby immune systems to handle.” There are variations on this theme, including “One Size Does Not Fit All” and “They Didn’t Give That Many Back In My Day." It can be an effective argument when presented to someone who is unclear or misinformed about the way vaccines and our immune systems work." https://www.immunizeusa.org/blog/2017/june/01/suh/
@aurora50 I have this happen a lot. It looks like it double-posts, but unless you reply to your own comment it won't actually post it. At least, if it's the same error I get. Try refreshing the page to make sure, I find the second one usually disappears. :)
ps...this is the second time a single reply of mine created double-posts...sorry, don't know what's causing that.
In the US as far as too many. If you are old enough, do you have a vaccination mark? Ask how many vaccines were in that? You just had them all at the same time!
Anti-vaxx and Flatearthers... What´s next? Sacriface virgin girls to the glory of the Sun God? Inquisition 2.0? 21st. Century, people...
I hope its not the sacrificing of virgin girls to the sun god. Would the sun accept anti-vaxx and flatearthers instead?
Naw, see, the idea of a sacrifice is giving up something you WANT.
well, how informed is the Sun God? maybe he doesn't know we don't want them?
Hollow earthers.
I just hope there is no modern witch hunts.
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
People who accept religious myths about the creation of earth and life literally are on that same level. These are not only Christian creationist but I also met some Hindu fundamentalists and Muslim creationists.
Do you understand that you are saying that antivaxxers, who endanger their children's and the people around them's lives and are bringing back diseases that had been basically gone are the same as people like ME, who believe that the gods created the world? Do you understand how big of an asshole you sound? You do know that most of us are EDUCATED religious people that know the difference between science and religion and use both. You're proudly stating that we are as dumb as anti-vaxxers because we try to come up with explanations of how the world was created. You're unbelievable.
Jessica, you're a moron. Go home and grovel in front of a Roman torture device. The grownups are talking now.
This comment is hidden. Click here to view.
What’s crazy to me is how comfortable people get assuming that creationists are crazy! The Big Bang and evolution theory are just as fantastic in reach as creationism, there just isn’t a diety pulling the strings to explain it?