Anti-Vaxxer Tries To Shut Down People Who Are Pro-Vaccine, Gets A Perfect Comeback
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Just 2 weeks after a shocking incident fiercely reignited the vaccination debate, another blow has been dealt with the anti-vaxxer firewall after a genius analogy against their logic (or lack of any common sense) went viral.
The widely-shared image, which compares vaccination to a bridge and disease to crocodile-infested waters, came accompanied by a short Facebook debate – the brevity of which was only due to an anti-vaccine commentator being brutally shut down by a science blog. The savage comeback was caught on screenshots and posted on Imgur, where it quickly made the front page with over 11 thousand upvotes.
Vaccine-preventable diseases are still a threat to children, notably measles, which has made a frightening comeback in the US and Europe. If this, paired with the plethora of research confirming vaccines to be safe and necessary, doesn’t serve as enough pro-vaccine ammo in your next argument over the issue, use this post as one of the best comebacks possible.
This analogy against ‘anti-vaxxer logic’ is going viral, and it’s reigniting an important discussion
Reactions from other users were overwhelmingly in support of the pro-vaxxer’s shattering argument
What do you think? Does the bridge analogy accurately describe the vaccine debate? Weigh in below!
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Those analogies are a bit badly expressed. I think it would be more like, "I refuse to go onto that bridge that has stood the test of time, because SOME people had accidents on it, and I've heard that bridges collapse at ANY MOMENT. I'd rather swim through that deep river with a very strong current because I think the bridge is just a ploy by the government to control us. I mean, they're the ones who built it! No one dies from crossing that river anymore anyway."
This is very well put and I agree with it.
Agreed except the bridge analogy holds up when you're only talking about Autism. Nobody has gotten autism from vaxxines ("...SOME people have had accidents on it..."). But yes, some people have gotten sick or died from vaccines. They just haven't contract Autism from them.
What is the percentage of people who get sick or die from vaccines? Less than 1.4 in 100,000. Percentage of people who die from diptheria even with treatment? 10 to 15 percent, i.e. 10,000 to 15, 000. Why don't we see people dying of diptheria these days? Vaccines. I last saw a case of diptheria in the US in 1971 -- because of vaccines.
It's a grouping statement: Not all Children who have been vaccinated have autism, but almost all the children who have autism have been vaccinated. there is no substantial case that anyone (apart from those with the IQ of a brick) would believe to support anti-vaccination. I have ADHD, and I have been vaccinated. But I do not have ADHD BECAUSE I've been vaccinated. Just like those with autism.
Exactly this!
but lets be honest. weve survived thousands years without vaccines and improving health tactics improving immunity. So if we're so wrong we'll all die and you all can laugh... So far all i see is people with shitty diets dying from the disease and people who had an adverse reaction die from it.. and remember they aren't gonna blame the vaccine 90% of the time so the numbers are 100% low balled as far as accidents. That's all aside form the fact there is no incentive for the vaccines to be that safe to begin with because regan passed that wack law that immunized all vaccines from any liability DECADES ago. But we don't research, lmao. you guys even have the nerve to talk because government supports you. You just follow, you weren't raised to lead. As soon as Bill & Fauci hit prison and its publicly stated that vaccines have been manipulated by private interests with more money than you could dream of for years.. you're all gonna jump on our boat like the great followers you guys are.
all your stats come from studies that none of you know who funded. antivaxxers are growing because parents know exactly what the **** is ggod with their kids. If your child gets autism the day after getting the vaccine... and your doctor tells you it wasn't the vaccine but pays you reparations from vaccine accidents.. you're gonna believe that? Anyone who got this vaccine, which doesn't even include include the virus dna itself like all others just lab made dna to do the SAME THING YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM DOES, aka why you can still transmit despite having.... if you're all so convinced you're safe now how about we take the test of time. Nobody decides how someone else dies.. so if we wanna go out naturally never putting s**t in our bodies then so be it. If yall so safe leave us the f**k alone.. at the end of the day you CAN'T say that the additive ingredients AREN'T POISONOUS .. ESPESCIALLY if you ingested them on your own or to your child...you would go to jail... but in a vaxx is okay?
That is true, because there is not one substance on this planet that is 100% safe for 100% of the population. Vaccines are just not an exception to that.
How does government control you if you get a FREE vaccine? Are you really using your brain? Do you think they distribute free microchips to all citizens via vaccines or what? Are you guys really informed about the multitude of diseases you might face and have no chance of surviving without vaccines? "bridge is just a ploy by the government to control us" this analogy is badly expressed my friend... Go swim across the river but don't you dare send your non-vaccined children to a public school.
...dude. I'm pro-vaccination. The analogy I wrote was from a anti-vaxxer perspective, not my personal opinion. My friend.
Honestly, if you would rather allow your child to die from an illness that can be prevented instead of running the risk of developing autism (which has been shown to be false time and time again), you don't deserve to be a parent. It's that simple. And as for the ones who don't want "poison" put into their children's bodies: you better lock them in a damn closet so they never touch alcohol, drugs, or any other form of medication.
Yep. Also, the "study" that linked vaccines and autism was penned by Andrew Wakefield, a legally proven FRAUD. Seriously, if anyone is anti-vaccines, they should look at the actual evidence. The man lied, and everyone in the medical community knows he lied, and now he gets money from foolish people because he lies and tells them the conspiracies they want to hear. To any conspiracy theorists: just because you don't trust the government doesn't mean you should trust everyone who says something bad about them. We don't die from illnesses like smallpox that often now BECAUSE of vaccines, not in spite of them, and the increase in autism diagnoses is mostly down to the changing definition of what is considered autism rather than autism actually just making a sudden appearance (psychology is very complex and requires frequent changes in medical diagnosis and practice based on new discoveries and research).
The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program ("Vaccine Program") comprises Part 2 of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 ("Vaccine Act"). See Pub. L. No. 99-660, 100 Stat. 3755 (1986) (codified as amended at 42 U.S.C. §§ 300aa-1 to -34). The Vaccine Act became effective October 1, 1988. It establishes the Vaccine Program as a no-fault compensation program whereby petitions for monetary compensation may be brought by or on behalf of persons allegedly suffering injury or death as a result of the administration of certain compulsory childhood vaccines. Has payed out 100's of millions to children injured by vax, cause they so safe.....
Or never let them breathe air, you know, it's too polluted.
Additionally, people decreasing/blocking herd immunity for those few that are allergic or otherwise to vaccines.
I am autistic, and far from being a handicap or a disability, it helps me see the world in a unique way. I am successful and have a lot of friends and a full social life.
Not just alcohol, drugs and medications... don't dare ever eat a processed food... OR eat a genetically modified food.... better go move somewhere you can live off the land and grow your own and hunt.... be safe.....
And... Jenny McCarthy
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Autism is only linked to the MMR vaccines , both pro-vaccers and anti-vaxxers fail to see this. Just like men, not all vaccines are equal
Wow. The lies really got you, didn't they? Did Jenny's fake boobs hypnotize you?
The analogy doesn't necessarily go into the part of how the anti-vaxxers choice of swimming through that water affects all pro-vaxxers whose children aren't even old enough to get vaccinated or already have health issues that requires a different vaccination schedule (like, there are vaccinations that cover multiple diseases at once, but due to health circumstances, the person in question can't get the single shot but instead needs to get the vaccination for one disease at a time spread out over time). And a random, but relevant side story: Back when I was in high school, I had a teacher whose daughter was born deaf because one of her students had measles or chicken pox. Apparently, they weren't visible, but they were still contagious. to this day, the story stuck with me.
Omg yes this! Finally someone said it at the start of the comments.
EXACTLY... they don't want to take responsibility for how their choices affect others.....
i have terminal cancer and am on chemo. my immune system is compromised. you stupid antivaxxers can kill me. thanks, though, i'm really worried about autism.
Exactly! Vaccination is so important because of herd immunity, which serves to protect people like yourselves who can't get vaccinated because of compromised immune systems! If not enough healthy people get vaccinated, there is no herd immunity!
My MIL, while not anti-vax, didn't get her kids fully vaccinated and I am worried that my future children may run the risk of catching something before they can be vaccinated... I love my MIL and like a lot of her ideas but the not getting her kids fully vaccinated bit irks me! They went to "pox and measles parties" but none of the kids ever contracted the infections. I'm seriously worried and not sure how to proceed with his family.
If it were me, I would just dodge them until your kids are vaccinated. Even then, I would show caution. Better to have pissed off in-laws than a child in a wheelchair. Remember, your obligation to your kids exceeds that of to your in-laws. And who knows, maybe they will wise up and get vaccinated rather than lose you.
Tell your husband to get vaccinated NOW. Adults do need boosters and he really, really needs to get vaccinated. If he balks, tell him one nifty little fact....When men get mumps, they end up sterile. If you're planning more kids, that should be a deal breaker. And keep your kids away from these lunatics.
It will have been measels that the student had. When the vaccine was first introduced (late 60s) it was given to teenage girls (in UK at least) as well as to babies and small children because it is so dangerous to unborn babies. I remember being given the jag aged 15ish.
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However, deafness is no more tragic than autism.
Which is not caused by vaccines.
Perhaps not, but it would have been preventable if that kid had been vaccinated. And because it wasn't, my former teacher, her daughter and the rest of her family pay the price of someone else's ignorance.
Those analogies are a bit badly expressed. I think it would be more like, "I refuse to go onto that bridge that has stood the test of time, because SOME people had accidents on it, and I've heard that bridges collapse at ANY MOMENT. I'd rather swim through that deep river with a very strong current because I think the bridge is just a ploy by the government to control us. I mean, they're the ones who built it! No one dies from crossing that river anymore anyway."
This is very well put and I agree with it.
Agreed except the bridge analogy holds up when you're only talking about Autism. Nobody has gotten autism from vaxxines ("...SOME people have had accidents on it..."). But yes, some people have gotten sick or died from vaccines. They just haven't contract Autism from them.
What is the percentage of people who get sick or die from vaccines? Less than 1.4 in 100,000. Percentage of people who die from diptheria even with treatment? 10 to 15 percent, i.e. 10,000 to 15, 000. Why don't we see people dying of diptheria these days? Vaccines. I last saw a case of diptheria in the US in 1971 -- because of vaccines.
It's a grouping statement: Not all Children who have been vaccinated have autism, but almost all the children who have autism have been vaccinated. there is no substantial case that anyone (apart from those with the IQ of a brick) would believe to support anti-vaccination. I have ADHD, and I have been vaccinated. But I do not have ADHD BECAUSE I've been vaccinated. Just like those with autism.
Exactly this!
but lets be honest. weve survived thousands years without vaccines and improving health tactics improving immunity. So if we're so wrong we'll all die and you all can laugh... So far all i see is people with shitty diets dying from the disease and people who had an adverse reaction die from it.. and remember they aren't gonna blame the vaccine 90% of the time so the numbers are 100% low balled as far as accidents. That's all aside form the fact there is no incentive for the vaccines to be that safe to begin with because regan passed that wack law that immunized all vaccines from any liability DECADES ago. But we don't research, lmao. you guys even have the nerve to talk because government supports you. You just follow, you weren't raised to lead. As soon as Bill & Fauci hit prison and its publicly stated that vaccines have been manipulated by private interests with more money than you could dream of for years.. you're all gonna jump on our boat like the great followers you guys are.
all your stats come from studies that none of you know who funded. antivaxxers are growing because parents know exactly what the **** is ggod with their kids. If your child gets autism the day after getting the vaccine... and your doctor tells you it wasn't the vaccine but pays you reparations from vaccine accidents.. you're gonna believe that? Anyone who got this vaccine, which doesn't even include include the virus dna itself like all others just lab made dna to do the SAME THING YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM DOES, aka why you can still transmit despite having.... if you're all so convinced you're safe now how about we take the test of time. Nobody decides how someone else dies.. so if we wanna go out naturally never putting s**t in our bodies then so be it. If yall so safe leave us the f**k alone.. at the end of the day you CAN'T say that the additive ingredients AREN'T POISONOUS .. ESPESCIALLY if you ingested them on your own or to your child...you would go to jail... but in a vaxx is okay?
That is true, because there is not one substance on this planet that is 100% safe for 100% of the population. Vaccines are just not an exception to that.
How does government control you if you get a FREE vaccine? Are you really using your brain? Do you think they distribute free microchips to all citizens via vaccines or what? Are you guys really informed about the multitude of diseases you might face and have no chance of surviving without vaccines? "bridge is just a ploy by the government to control us" this analogy is badly expressed my friend... Go swim across the river but don't you dare send your non-vaccined children to a public school.
...dude. I'm pro-vaccination. The analogy I wrote was from a anti-vaxxer perspective, not my personal opinion. My friend.
Honestly, if you would rather allow your child to die from an illness that can be prevented instead of running the risk of developing autism (which has been shown to be false time and time again), you don't deserve to be a parent. It's that simple. And as for the ones who don't want "poison" put into their children's bodies: you better lock them in a damn closet so they never touch alcohol, drugs, or any other form of medication.
Yep. Also, the "study" that linked vaccines and autism was penned by Andrew Wakefield, a legally proven FRAUD. Seriously, if anyone is anti-vaccines, they should look at the actual evidence. The man lied, and everyone in the medical community knows he lied, and now he gets money from foolish people because he lies and tells them the conspiracies they want to hear. To any conspiracy theorists: just because you don't trust the government doesn't mean you should trust everyone who says something bad about them. We don't die from illnesses like smallpox that often now BECAUSE of vaccines, not in spite of them, and the increase in autism diagnoses is mostly down to the changing definition of what is considered autism rather than autism actually just making a sudden appearance (psychology is very complex and requires frequent changes in medical diagnosis and practice based on new discoveries and research).
The National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program ("Vaccine Program") comprises Part 2 of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 ("Vaccine Act"). See Pub. L. No. 99-660, 100 Stat. 3755 (1986) (codified as amended at 42 U.S.C. §§ 300aa-1 to -34). The Vaccine Act became effective October 1, 1988. It establishes the Vaccine Program as a no-fault compensation program whereby petitions for monetary compensation may be brought by or on behalf of persons allegedly suffering injury or death as a result of the administration of certain compulsory childhood vaccines. Has payed out 100's of millions to children injured by vax, cause they so safe.....
Or never let them breathe air, you know, it's too polluted.
Additionally, people decreasing/blocking herd immunity for those few that are allergic or otherwise to vaccines.
I am autistic, and far from being a handicap or a disability, it helps me see the world in a unique way. I am successful and have a lot of friends and a full social life.
Not just alcohol, drugs and medications... don't dare ever eat a processed food... OR eat a genetically modified food.... better go move somewhere you can live off the land and grow your own and hunt.... be safe.....
And... Jenny McCarthy
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Autism is only linked to the MMR vaccines , both pro-vaccers and anti-vaxxers fail to see this. Just like men, not all vaccines are equal
Wow. The lies really got you, didn't they? Did Jenny's fake boobs hypnotize you?
The analogy doesn't necessarily go into the part of how the anti-vaxxers choice of swimming through that water affects all pro-vaxxers whose children aren't even old enough to get vaccinated or already have health issues that requires a different vaccination schedule (like, there are vaccinations that cover multiple diseases at once, but due to health circumstances, the person in question can't get the single shot but instead needs to get the vaccination for one disease at a time spread out over time). And a random, but relevant side story: Back when I was in high school, I had a teacher whose daughter was born deaf because one of her students had measles or chicken pox. Apparently, they weren't visible, but they were still contagious. to this day, the story stuck with me.
Omg yes this! Finally someone said it at the start of the comments.
EXACTLY... they don't want to take responsibility for how their choices affect others.....
i have terminal cancer and am on chemo. my immune system is compromised. you stupid antivaxxers can kill me. thanks, though, i'm really worried about autism.
Exactly! Vaccination is so important because of herd immunity, which serves to protect people like yourselves who can't get vaccinated because of compromised immune systems! If not enough healthy people get vaccinated, there is no herd immunity!
My MIL, while not anti-vax, didn't get her kids fully vaccinated and I am worried that my future children may run the risk of catching something before they can be vaccinated... I love my MIL and like a lot of her ideas but the not getting her kids fully vaccinated bit irks me! They went to "pox and measles parties" but none of the kids ever contracted the infections. I'm seriously worried and not sure how to proceed with his family.
If it were me, I would just dodge them until your kids are vaccinated. Even then, I would show caution. Better to have pissed off in-laws than a child in a wheelchair. Remember, your obligation to your kids exceeds that of to your in-laws. And who knows, maybe they will wise up and get vaccinated rather than lose you.
Tell your husband to get vaccinated NOW. Adults do need boosters and he really, really needs to get vaccinated. If he balks, tell him one nifty little fact....When men get mumps, they end up sterile. If you're planning more kids, that should be a deal breaker. And keep your kids away from these lunatics.
It will have been measels that the student had. When the vaccine was first introduced (late 60s) it was given to teenage girls (in UK at least) as well as to babies and small children because it is so dangerous to unborn babies. I remember being given the jag aged 15ish.
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However, deafness is no more tragic than autism.
Which is not caused by vaccines.
Perhaps not, but it would have been preventable if that kid had been vaccinated. And because it wasn't, my former teacher, her daughter and the rest of her family pay the price of someone else's ignorance.