“What A Sad World We Live In”: The Internet Reacts To Airline Introducing A Child-Free Plane Section
Air rage, delays, and horrible food come nowhere close to the terror induced by seeing someone board a plane with a child. Veteran fliers know that, within moments of the doors closing, the baby will attempt to outscream the plane’s engines and on some occasions, it will succeed.
So the Dutch-Turkish airline Corendon has introduced a pretty novel feature to some of its flights. For an additional cost, passengers will be able to select seating in an adults-only zone that will be additionally separated from the rest of the plane. The airline hopes this will create less stress and less embarrassment for the people flying with children.
Babies have an annoying tendency to cry throughout an entire flight
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So the airline Corendon has started to test “child-free” zones in some planes
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“Would you pay extra cash money to fly in an ‘adults only’ section of an airplane? So that would mean no one under the age of 16 is allowed. One airline is about to find out whether people are going to pay for this. It’s called Corendon Airlines, a European carrier.”
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“And they’ve got an experimental service beginning on flights from Amsterdam to Curacao where the first 100 seats of this 400+ seat plane will be for adults only.”
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@cbsmorningsWould you pay extra to fly in an adults-only section of a plane? Corendon Airlines is testing the experimental service on flights from Amsterdam to Curaçao. #news #airline #flying #corendonairlines #corendon #amsterdam #curaçao♬ original sound – CBS Mornings
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Air travel has a number of possible annoyances
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The list of things that make air travel difficult is long and exhausting, to such a degree that it often masks the miracle of flight altogether. The average trip begins with getting to the airport, which generally is some distance from any place you actually want to be, and, depending on your flight, often means getting up particularly early or staying up late. Then begins the process of passing through multiple checks, filed with similarly annoyed passengers, before you get to your gate. If you are late, too bad, the plane is gone. If you are early, congratulations, enjoy the most overpriced food you have ever encountered. As comedian Jerry Seinfeld noted, the entire airline industry appears to be a front to trick us into buying overpriced sandwiches.
This is all before the flight has even started. Assuming there are no delays, overbooking, or cancelations, you can now board the plane. Depending on what sort of tickets you purchased, your degree of comfort will vary pretty greatly. There are a myriad of annoyances on most planes, limited legroom, cheap seats, the AC is way too powerful or the heating is turned up too high, the air is dry and irritating, other passengers are constantly, moving and making noise, and the entire time, the engines are rumbling in the background.
First-class seats no doubt alleviate some of these issues, but there is one notorious equalizer, regardless of where one sits. A small child can not really comprehend the air pressure changes, noise, and temperature of an airplane and will, inevitably, fill the fuselage with a barrage of endless screams. This is an occurrence so common that just the sight of a child by the gate will leave other passengers in a state of abject terror. It’s also a rare case where cheaper seats are better since splurging for first-class, then enduring endless wailing seems like the travel equivalent of burning money to warm your fingers.
Quiet areas are a new way airlines are trying to limit stress on a plane
This, no doubt, is what inspired Corendon Airlines to develop a new feature for its fliers. For just €45, passengers can upgrade their seats to a special zone near the front of the plane where no one under the age of 16 can sit. This doesn’t bar people from traveling with children, rather, just 93 seats will be “reserved” for a child-free area. On the surface, some might see it as discriminatory, but by placing the cost on passengers who want a “more quiet experience,” it doesn’t do any harm to traveling parents. It’s worth noting that traveling with a baby can be pretty stressful as well, on top of which comes the embarrassment of bringing the screaming tiny human on the plane. Humans have an evolutionary dislike for the cries of a child, as there is a natural instinct to protect our offspring. Even if it’s not your child, the high-pitched noise is hard to avoid, even if one can endure the other discomforts.
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By sitting in what has to now be thought of as the “child area,” parents are absolved of any irritation their offspring may bring. Not only does the airline get some additional funds by selling tickets but passengers sitting near a crying child will consider purchasing a “child-free” ticket in the future. Corendon Airlines is not the first airline to limit where children can sit, although it is the first in Europe. AirAsia X maintains a “quiet area” on certain long-haul flights, which is limited to people 12 and older. Similarly, the wonderfully named Scoot, a low-cost Singapore-based carrier, offers the same service, obviously, at a premium price.
In general, child-free travel is growing in demand. While parents might find this disconcerting, in general, the trend seems to be charging extra for sitting in an area without a child, instead of paying extra to bring a child. Certain train lines and even buses are working on spaces that would not have any children in them, though this raises the question if young parents will find it increasingly difficult to find spaces on any transportation in the future. However, sometimes the real babies are passengers who can’t deal with the noise, so perhaps removing this stressor is better for everyone in the long run.
Many commenters agreed with the idea
But some didn’t like the implications
People spend the majority of their lives as adults. The world is made for adults. Children don't need to be included in everything, all the time, everywhere. Adults need spaces for themselves too. The majority of the plane is still child-friendly. Just 100 seats for those adults who want a bit of space for themselves.
We definitely need more kid-free zones - no everything needs to cater to kids/families with kids! And the argument that "you were a kid once too" or "you had kids too" and therefore one must always be patient and tolerate their noise is horsesh*t - source: my mother, especially now in her later years.
Yes, I was a kid once, and I was an irritating little shìt.
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Screaming toddler, I can understand ... it's the 10 year old sitting behind me that won't stop kicking my seat no matter how many times I ask the mom after I haven't slept in 40 hours that makes me wanna scream "TAKE MY MONEY!!!"
"PEOPLE HATE CHILDREN" - No, we hate ill behaved children who are the product of s**t parents. I get babies who cry because that is literally their only means of communication - what I don't get is kids who throw s**t around, scream, shout, run up and down, etc. And the parents just put inn head phones and don't deal with it. Some people are on business flights and need some quiet time to prepare.
Parents need to be held responsivble for the behavior of their children. Yes SOME children have developmental issues, but too many parents use that as an excuse for bad behavior. "little donny can't help it he has xyz" I am really sorry - but if that is the case - 90% of the kids now have it and we are so screwed when they grow up. Or are we just raising spoiled brats who have no self control?
I was in line for TSA and a kid kept hitting me. I snapped at him and his mom said "he has mental health issues." My response was "So do I!" And it's true. If I'm expected to refrain from assaulting others then she can't use it as an excuse.
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As someone with autism who does NOT deal well with the sound of screaming I would 100% love for airlines to have child-free flights, not just zones (because lets face it, a screaming baby is still going to be heard several rows back) ik its not the babies fault it screams but still. And honestly, I'm sick of this idea that everything has to cater to kids in some way.
Hm...I can't say that I've noticed that everything is catered towards children. Sure, some things are, but no part of traveling by air is designed with children in mind. I agree that child free areas on a plane might be a good idea, but I also believe that parents deserve to be able to travel with their children as much as anyone else does. That said, some parents need a sound slap for allowing their kids to be little terrors in public spaces.
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One flight, I had the window seat, and someone's two small children (Guessing something like 7-8) were in the center and aisle seats. During the flight, I was doing Sudoku puzzles, and the two kids were quietly watching their tablets with earphones in. At some point, I accidentally dropped my pen, and it went to the floor. There I am thinking Sudoku time is now over. Nope. Without a word or prompt, the kid next to me suddenly darted to the floor, retrieved my pen, got back in his seat, handed me the pen, and went back to his cartoons. So kids on flights aren't always a nuisance. (yes, I said thank you)
Those are some well regulated kids. If only all of them were like that, there wouldn't be any issues
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People wanting a child free area of a plane aren't necessarily monsters. There are people who are afraid of flying that are already frazzled, as is, without a screaming baby or the child of some Karen raising an entitled brat, around them, or have sensory issues and need a little extra room from noise. You also don't know why someone is flying somewhere. The 40 or 50-something year old woman, who is staring out into nothingness, may be on the way to identify or bury her own kid. Grieving people deserve some peace. I hate the folks on their high horses, talking about "you must hate kids if you want child free spaces". That black and white thinking is terrible and severely lacking in empathy.
This exactly. Everyone needs more patience & understanding of the views that differ from their own. I'd pay extra for child free. I've had my kids & they are young adults now. I'm in a different phase of life. I don't hate kids. I dislike the parents who don't parent. I have empathy for the parents who do & still have a screaming, fussy child. Babies will cry & can not always be calmed easily. So yeah, I get mad at folks who hate on the parents & child for it - but, I also understand how distressing it is to have to hear it. A child free zone is a good compromise.
Load More Replies... I'm not even 16 yet, but I would so pay extra for a child free section as every flight I go on there seems to be this poorly raised child keeping everyone awake...
I'd like to see the whole plane child free. I'd pay extra for that.
I am 110% with this. The flights, restaurants, cinemas etc that have been ruined by screaming, snivelling little brats is too many to count. They're tired, uncomfortable, not in the mood and hell bent on crying until they puke or pass out. We get anxious if seated near kids and joke it will inevitably "be us" because it's such a frequent occurrence. I was once a kid, as were we all. But there was MANY a venue my parents wouldn't take me into because they were adult spaces e.g. bars. On the rare occasion we were allowed, we were under no illusion that this was a privilege and the instant we misbehave, we'll be taken home. And if we're complete shits, a light smack around the back of the legs. I wasn't an abused child - I was taught good behaviour. The parents who let their kids run amok is appalling. I wonder how they'd feel if I sat on the floor of the Early Learning Centre smoking pot, drinking booze, swearing and playing grunge music...
I remember one nearly hurting a baby by accident. I was in a restaurant and the parents left their baby to crawl on the floor. I wanted to move my chair a bit and noticed almost too late that the baby was right behind me.
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I'm 13 and I would hate to be roped in with the 2-year-old toddlers. Put me in the quiet "adult section", please!
US Airways used to have child free flights out of my airport. The first flights in/out and the last flights in/out each day were child free so people traveling for business could sleep/get work done on the plane. If you had kids, you had to fly middle of the day.
will that adult-only zone be physically separated from the other seats? Like, with a wall or at least thick, sound-proof curtains? because otherwise it wouldn´t help much. You could still hear them scream.
That last commenter above seems pretty proud of the fact that he was probably an a*****e (and probably still is one tbh)
"By sitting in what has to now be thought of as the “child area,” parents are absolved of any irritation their offspring may bring" - well, that's not worrying at all /s
Let's be honest, the ones who have irritating kids felt absolved before this.
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When i first read the articke title, i was kinda disgusted- however, this is absolutely reasonable. Little brats can be legit obnoxious. Another thing, i find the last note about "people who can't handle noise being the real babies" a little insensitive; some people like me have legitimate noise oversensitivities and shick
I'm not against the idea, but it should not cost extra. Freaking everything these days has some kind of cost. Tickets are already pretty expensive.
I appreciate the effort....I had my fair share of intercontinental flights with crying children, but I fear that this may be something like s smoke-free rows in a flight with smokers. Not ideal
Ah yes, a section where all the entitled Karens & Kens can all come together.
I understand the need to feel calm, or be able to work or sleep during a flight, and nobody should feel guilty for wanting that. I do love kids and babies, but it's understandable.
If you have ever suffered having the back of your seat kicked for 6 hours and the mother nor flight attendant would do anything about it, you would definitely want a child-free section on a plane. It was not fun.
Last time I had to threaten an adult I'd make all of us listen to my daughter's cartoon music if he didn't use his headphones. My 7yo would never turn on her speaker in public, but I've had to ask adults to use headphones regularly. I wouldn't go for a kid-free plane, I don't care, but I would take a quiet zone.
I don't get why people are offended by the concept. Want to sit by kids? Go for it. If other adults though want to sit in adults only, why care? Why does that bother you? It's it maybe due to you wanting them to suffer as much as you? I can't think of any other reason someone would be against this and angry at adults that don't want to sit by kids. Be happy if you're a parent. It saves you looks and you don't need to be by those adults that are trying to chill.
Planes should naturally be built with children soundproofing and kicking proof seats from the kids
The problem isn't the children in and of themselves, the problem is the parents who have failed to teach their kids how it's ok to behave around other people, and just let the kid or kids run around and do whatever. I don't think I've ever been on a plane where a toddler was the issue, at least not for more than 10min. Not that I get why you would fly on vacation with a kid under 5. Besides personally I'm more fine with toddler screams than I am with 5-7 yo screaming about how they want to see the pilot, or want snacks, or is running up and down the isle, or kicks my seat despite being told off
The last commenter above- who's opposed to adults only spaces on flights- claimed that he did his first long haul flight at 4 years old and he was probably a little s**t the whole time...he's opposed to the idea but with that one sentence he gave a strong reason for child free spaces.
It wouldn't be necessary if parents actually parented their kids. My mom would have spun my head around if I had been screaming on the plane, kicking seats, running up and down the aisles, and pestering the people around me. Before anyone says "kids can't be expected to sit there quietly for hours." Yes, they can. I did it. My whole generation did it. We sat there with our books, mad libs, coloring books and crayons and entertained ourselves. It's the parents who think they can't do it so don't expect it of them.
F**k yes I would pay. Sorry, not sorry, but I hate the noise of a crying kid. I've been around them enough to know what hungry/bratty/tired sound like, and I can sympathize, but I still just want the noise to stop rightthefucknow and it's harder to ignore when I hear the brat-scream. I just want to tell the parent to leave the kid for the wolves. Obviously I'm an adult who can behave in public, but just as I don't want to be around an adult throwing a tantrum, I'm not interested in listening to your "threenager" having one either. You're legally and morally obligated to love YOUR kids, no matter what. I am not.
Sound travels. This sounds like a scam. Unless they plan to re-construct the entire plane to sound proof that section, you are still going to hear everything. Also what if you're at the very back row of the "child-free" section and there's a child sitting in the front row of the standard section? I just KNOW there'd be petty enough parents to intentionally book that spot to make an example of how dumb and scammy the whole concept is.
This whole trend of banning kids from all kinds of places is worrying and unhealthy for society. How about creating an expectation that parents actually parent their children, instead of treating kids like unwanted outlaws? They are people too.
You're giving people too much credit, we wouldn't have these ideas if people would raise their kids properly. I don't mind kids being kids but I don't think that is the core issue. Being destructive, extremely disruptive, loud, and messy shouldn't be tolerated but most people say "they're just being kids" no, they're being little terrors please discipline them.
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Wow! Never seen so many pandas downvoted for saying “how about you chill out with the aggression towards children?” I’m child free by choice but it’s never occurred to me to be hostile towards a young child or their parents when they act out during a flight or any other scenario. Sure, I’ve flinched or ground my teeth when they get really loud. But it still never occurred to me to be hostile. People with children also have to travel. Sometimes their little ones are loud or excitable. We are the adults. Get the eff over it and cope! It’s part of being an adult.
Im 38, don't have kids, don't want them and never did. I love kids for the most part and my niece who's 2 is like my new best friend. Been on hundreds of flights and yes there were screaming babies or bad little kids. I just crank my headphones up on my movie or music. Besides asking a parent for their child to stop kicking your seat nicely will probably backfire in one way or another. I just mind my business on the plane and usually have a few adult beverages in flight, makes me super relaxed and chill. I wouldn't care if there was or wasn't a kid free zone on a plane. Now it would be super rad if like amusement parks had a few adults only days. I'd pay extra for that for sure.
I have flown with children and babies. I also work in tourism - children and babies ride my tour all the time. It's generally not the children. Can we have a parent-free zone instead?
I think there is also a special place in hell for those entirely lacking empathy.
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People spend the majority of their lives as adults. The world is made for adults. Children don't need to be included in everything, all the time, everywhere. Adults need spaces for themselves too. The majority of the plane is still child-friendly. Just 100 seats for those adults who want a bit of space for themselves.
We definitely need more kid-free zones - no everything needs to cater to kids/families with kids! And the argument that "you were a kid once too" or "you had kids too" and therefore one must always be patient and tolerate their noise is horsesh*t - source: my mother, especially now in her later years.
Yes, I was a kid once, and I was an irritating little shìt.
Load More Replies... Screaming toddler, I can understand ... it's the 10 year old sitting behind me that won't stop kicking my seat no matter how many times I ask the mom after I haven't slept in 40 hours that makes me wanna scream "TAKE MY MONEY!!!"
"PEOPLE HATE CHILDREN" - No, we hate ill behaved children who are the product of s**t parents. I get babies who cry because that is literally their only means of communication - what I don't get is kids who throw s**t around, scream, shout, run up and down, etc. And the parents just put inn head phones and don't deal with it. Some people are on business flights and need some quiet time to prepare.
Parents need to be held responsivble for the behavior of their children. Yes SOME children have developmental issues, but too many parents use that as an excuse for bad behavior. "little donny can't help it he has xyz" I am really sorry - but if that is the case - 90% of the kids now have it and we are so screwed when they grow up. Or are we just raising spoiled brats who have no self control?
I was in line for TSA and a kid kept hitting me. I snapped at him and his mom said "he has mental health issues." My response was "So do I!" And it's true. If I'm expected to refrain from assaulting others then she can't use it as an excuse.
Load More Replies... As someone with autism who does NOT deal well with the sound of screaming I would 100% love for airlines to have child-free flights, not just zones (because lets face it, a screaming baby is still going to be heard several rows back) ik its not the babies fault it screams but still. And honestly, I'm sick of this idea that everything has to cater to kids in some way.
Hm...I can't say that I've noticed that everything is catered towards children. Sure, some things are, but no part of traveling by air is designed with children in mind. I agree that child free areas on a plane might be a good idea, but I also believe that parents deserve to be able to travel with their children as much as anyone else does. That said, some parents need a sound slap for allowing their kids to be little terrors in public spaces.
Load More Replies... One flight, I had the window seat, and someone's two small children (Guessing something like 7-8) were in the center and aisle seats. During the flight, I was doing Sudoku puzzles, and the two kids were quietly watching their tablets with earphones in. At some point, I accidentally dropped my pen, and it went to the floor. There I am thinking Sudoku time is now over. Nope. Without a word or prompt, the kid next to me suddenly darted to the floor, retrieved my pen, got back in his seat, handed me the pen, and went back to his cartoons. So kids on flights aren't always a nuisance. (yes, I said thank you)
Those are some well regulated kids. If only all of them were like that, there wouldn't be any issues
Load More Replies... People wanting a child free area of a plane aren't necessarily monsters. There are people who are afraid of flying that are already frazzled, as is, without a screaming baby or the child of some Karen raising an entitled brat, around them, or have sensory issues and need a little extra room from noise. You also don't know why someone is flying somewhere. The 40 or 50-something year old woman, who is staring out into nothingness, may be on the way to identify or bury her own kid. Grieving people deserve some peace. I hate the folks on their high horses, talking about "you must hate kids if you want child free spaces". That black and white thinking is terrible and severely lacking in empathy.
This exactly. Everyone needs more patience & understanding of the views that differ from their own. I'd pay extra for child free. I've had my kids & they are young adults now. I'm in a different phase of life. I don't hate kids. I dislike the parents who don't parent. I have empathy for the parents who do & still have a screaming, fussy child. Babies will cry & can not always be calmed easily. So yeah, I get mad at folks who hate on the parents & child for it - but, I also understand how distressing it is to have to hear it. A child free zone is a good compromise.
Load More Replies... I'm not even 16 yet, but I would so pay extra for a child free section as every flight I go on there seems to be this poorly raised child keeping everyone awake...
I'd like to see the whole plane child free. I'd pay extra for that.
I am 110% with this. The flights, restaurants, cinemas etc that have been ruined by screaming, snivelling little brats is too many to count. They're tired, uncomfortable, not in the mood and hell bent on crying until they puke or pass out. We get anxious if seated near kids and joke it will inevitably "be us" because it's such a frequent occurrence. I was once a kid, as were we all. But there was MANY a venue my parents wouldn't take me into because they were adult spaces e.g. bars. On the rare occasion we were allowed, we were under no illusion that this was a privilege and the instant we misbehave, we'll be taken home. And if we're complete shits, a light smack around the back of the legs. I wasn't an abused child - I was taught good behaviour. The parents who let their kids run amok is appalling. I wonder how they'd feel if I sat on the floor of the Early Learning Centre smoking pot, drinking booze, swearing and playing grunge music...
I remember one nearly hurting a baby by accident. I was in a restaurant and the parents left their baby to crawl on the floor. I wanted to move my chair a bit and noticed almost too late that the baby was right behind me.
Load More Replies... I'm 13 and I would hate to be roped in with the 2-year-old toddlers. Put me in the quiet "adult section", please!
US Airways used to have child free flights out of my airport. The first flights in/out and the last flights in/out each day were child free so people traveling for business could sleep/get work done on the plane. If you had kids, you had to fly middle of the day.
will that adult-only zone be physically separated from the other seats? Like, with a wall or at least thick, sound-proof curtains? because otherwise it wouldn´t help much. You could still hear them scream.
That last commenter above seems pretty proud of the fact that he was probably an a*****e (and probably still is one tbh)
"By sitting in what has to now be thought of as the “child area,” parents are absolved of any irritation their offspring may bring" - well, that's not worrying at all /s
Let's be honest, the ones who have irritating kids felt absolved before this.
Load More Replies... When i first read the articke title, i was kinda disgusted- however, this is absolutely reasonable. Little brats can be legit obnoxious. Another thing, i find the last note about "people who can't handle noise being the real babies" a little insensitive; some people like me have legitimate noise oversensitivities and shick
I'm not against the idea, but it should not cost extra. Freaking everything these days has some kind of cost. Tickets are already pretty expensive.
I appreciate the effort....I had my fair share of intercontinental flights with crying children, but I fear that this may be something like s smoke-free rows in a flight with smokers. Not ideal
Ah yes, a section where all the entitled Karens & Kens can all come together.
I understand the need to feel calm, or be able to work or sleep during a flight, and nobody should feel guilty for wanting that. I do love kids and babies, but it's understandable.
If you have ever suffered having the back of your seat kicked for 6 hours and the mother nor flight attendant would do anything about it, you would definitely want a child-free section on a plane. It was not fun.
Last time I had to threaten an adult I'd make all of us listen to my daughter's cartoon music if he didn't use his headphones. My 7yo would never turn on her speaker in public, but I've had to ask adults to use headphones regularly. I wouldn't go for a kid-free plane, I don't care, but I would take a quiet zone.
I don't get why people are offended by the concept. Want to sit by kids? Go for it. If other adults though want to sit in adults only, why care? Why does that bother you? It's it maybe due to you wanting them to suffer as much as you? I can't think of any other reason someone would be against this and angry at adults that don't want to sit by kids. Be happy if you're a parent. It saves you looks and you don't need to be by those adults that are trying to chill.
Planes should naturally be built with children soundproofing and kicking proof seats from the kids
The problem isn't the children in and of themselves, the problem is the parents who have failed to teach their kids how it's ok to behave around other people, and just let the kid or kids run around and do whatever. I don't think I've ever been on a plane where a toddler was the issue, at least not for more than 10min. Not that I get why you would fly on vacation with a kid under 5. Besides personally I'm more fine with toddler screams than I am with 5-7 yo screaming about how they want to see the pilot, or want snacks, or is running up and down the isle, or kicks my seat despite being told off
The last commenter above- who's opposed to adults only spaces on flights- claimed that he did his first long haul flight at 4 years old and he was probably a little s**t the whole time...he's opposed to the idea but with that one sentence he gave a strong reason for child free spaces.
It wouldn't be necessary if parents actually parented their kids. My mom would have spun my head around if I had been screaming on the plane, kicking seats, running up and down the aisles, and pestering the people around me. Before anyone says "kids can't be expected to sit there quietly for hours." Yes, they can. I did it. My whole generation did it. We sat there with our books, mad libs, coloring books and crayons and entertained ourselves. It's the parents who think they can't do it so don't expect it of them.
F**k yes I would pay. Sorry, not sorry, but I hate the noise of a crying kid. I've been around them enough to know what hungry/bratty/tired sound like, and I can sympathize, but I still just want the noise to stop rightthefucknow and it's harder to ignore when I hear the brat-scream. I just want to tell the parent to leave the kid for the wolves. Obviously I'm an adult who can behave in public, but just as I don't want to be around an adult throwing a tantrum, I'm not interested in listening to your "threenager" having one either. You're legally and morally obligated to love YOUR kids, no matter what. I am not.
Sound travels. This sounds like a scam. Unless they plan to re-construct the entire plane to sound proof that section, you are still going to hear everything. Also what if you're at the very back row of the "child-free" section and there's a child sitting in the front row of the standard section? I just KNOW there'd be petty enough parents to intentionally book that spot to make an example of how dumb and scammy the whole concept is.
This whole trend of banning kids from all kinds of places is worrying and unhealthy for society. How about creating an expectation that parents actually parent their children, instead of treating kids like unwanted outlaws? They are people too.
You're giving people too much credit, we wouldn't have these ideas if people would raise their kids properly. I don't mind kids being kids but I don't think that is the core issue. Being destructive, extremely disruptive, loud, and messy shouldn't be tolerated but most people say "they're just being kids" no, they're being little terrors please discipline them.
Load More Replies... Wow! Never seen so many pandas downvoted for saying “how about you chill out with the aggression towards children?” I’m child free by choice but it’s never occurred to me to be hostile towards a young child or their parents when they act out during a flight or any other scenario. Sure, I’ve flinched or ground my teeth when they get really loud. But it still never occurred to me to be hostile. People with children also have to travel. Sometimes their little ones are loud or excitable. We are the adults. Get the eff over it and cope! It’s part of being an adult.
Im 38, don't have kids, don't want them and never did. I love kids for the most part and my niece who's 2 is like my new best friend. Been on hundreds of flights and yes there were screaming babies or bad little kids. I just crank my headphones up on my movie or music. Besides asking a parent for their child to stop kicking your seat nicely will probably backfire in one way or another. I just mind my business on the plane and usually have a few adult beverages in flight, makes me super relaxed and chill. I wouldn't care if there was or wasn't a kid free zone on a plane. Now it would be super rad if like amusement parks had a few adults only days. I'd pay extra for that for sure.
I have flown with children and babies. I also work in tourism - children and babies ride my tour all the time. It's generally not the children. Can we have a parent-free zone instead?
I think there is also a special place in hell for those entirely lacking empathy.
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