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IT Guy Spends His Last Minutes Of Work Going To Get His Name Badge Because Karen Of A Manager Requires It, And Then Goes Home
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IT Guy Spends His Last Minutes Of Work Going To Get His Name Badge Because Karen Of A Manager Requires It, And Then Goes Home

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Rules are there for a reason, whether the reason is safety, for maintaining order, or just knowing what to do. However, most often rules don’t include exceptions, and in life they are inevitable. Sometimes it is more useful to turn a blind eye to a rule to be more efficient or just to be humane towards another person.

Not everyone understands that and wants everything done by the book, no matter the consequences. Reddit user sawser shared his experience with a supervisor that couldn’t break a simple rule to make everyone save time and had to figure out how to fix things herself.

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Manager’s rule of requiring the IT guy to wear his name badge left her finding a solution to the problem herself

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The Original Poster (OP) was working as a student for a university IT department in the mid-2000s. He had been working there for 4 years already and knew everyone by name and was friendly with them, including the higher-ups.

The IT department had a sister department which was the media center. They would serve the professors when they needed any laptops or other technology on a loan. The media center’s manager was a Karen.

Bored Panda reached out to Sawser and he told us that Karen didn’t particularly liked him or his other colleagues. It seems that the OP wasn’t very fond of her either.

The story takes place in the 2000s and the narrator was a student worker in the IT department for a university at the time

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She had her own ways of doing things and had rules that weren’t necessarily logical. Among other rules, the OP remembers that “Karen would not allow the IT department to image media center laptops. Instead, she would use her own imaging disks. At one point she accidentally left an image disk in her workstation and imaged her device, losing payroll information.”

But The most important rule that she never broke was that every employee had to have their name badge on them when they worked on the laptops.

The name badges were there so that the person handing out the laptop could log who had it. The OP wasn’t against the rule. It was there for safety and in any other circumstances, he wouldn’t mind it, but he thought that this time, Karen could have let him slide.

He had been working there for 4 years and knew everyone by name

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Once again, this was 2005-2006, it was a Friday afternoon. 4:40PM to be precise. And it was 20 minutes before the end of OP’s work day. He got a call from Karen who needed help with a laptop because an important professor couldn’t log into the network.

The IT guy spent 10 minutes walking to the media center and was immediately asked where his name badge was. Turns out, he forgot it on the jacket he was wearing in the morning. After making sure that this was an emergency, but he still needed to go back to get his badge, the OP left, knowing very well he wasn’t going back.

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Sawser explained in more detail what he was thinking at that moment, “I didn’t simply explain that it would take longer to ignore the rule because I was incredibly annoyed that she wanted me to walk back across campus when she knew me by name. Our departments were small and she was being petty.”

Not only that, but now looking at it, the OP realises that Karen wasn’t afraid to show who’s the boss, “I was 20 at the time, she was in her 50s and there was a power dynamic that she was trying to enforce. I certainly would have done things differently now that I’m in my late 30s, but at the time it seemed appropriate.”

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In a sister department there was a manager that you could call Karen as she really liked enforcing necessary rules

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Image credits: Tim Pierce (not the actual photo)

When the OP got to his office where his badge was, it was already after his working hours, so he called Karen and told her that his department had a rule of not being allowed to work after hours as a student, so he would fix the problem on Monday.

On Monday, the head of OP’s department didn’t really care about what the student did and the employee kind of expected it, because the boss firstly didn’t like Karen and secondly, he was a reasonable boss.

One time she called the student at almost the end of the day on a Friday asking for help

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The OP admitted that he did make a mistake by not bringing the badge and he believed that the rule was there for a reason. But he was called right before finishing work on a Friday and was willing to fix the problem even if it meant staying after hours.

However, Karen had to be so meticulous about the name badge rule, despite knowing the OP as he had been working there for several years. She even greeted the OP by his name, they went to Christmas parties together and he would be doing his job in front of her eyes instead of taking the laptop. So he thought it was fair for him to leave work when his day ended.

Plus, he never really got along with Karen, “Karen did not like me personally, this was far from our first confrontation. She had a whole host of rules that seemed punative towards her workers (men and women were required to use different workstations and those workstations had boot passwords, she refused to use network drives for backing up department files, etc.)”

The IT guy came but wasn’t allowed to do his job because he didn’t have his name badge on him

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This incident didn’t help the relationship as Karen had to give the professor her personal work laptop for the week. When the OP came back on Monday, he fixed the problem and it took him less than a minute to do as he had to just delete all the saved wifi connections because they were making the computer’s connection slow.

People in the comments loved how the OP taught Karen a lesson because they agreed that her rule of having a name badge was ridiculous as they knew each other very well and she only needed the name badge to write his name into a log which didn’t require an ID to be scanned or be otherwise logged in.

The manager wanted him to go back and get it, so he left, knowing that by the time he got it, his work day would have ended

IT Guy Spends His Last Minutes Of Work Going To Get His Name Badge Because Karen Of A Manager Requires It, And Then Goes Home

Image credit: sawser

It seems that managers sometimes forget to be human and they get detached from reality and the people they are working with. Actually, an IBM survey revealed that employers think they provide good leadership and environment, but only a part of employees agree.

The findings showed that “74% of employers think they help their team learn the skills needed to work in a new way; only 34% of employees agree. 80% of employers think they are supporting the physical and emotional health of their team; only 46% of employees agree. 86% of employers think they provide clear guidelines and expectations for how the organization works; only 51% of employees agree.”

And as a student, he couldn’t work after hours, so he called Karen to let her know that he would fix the issue on Monday because rules are rules

Image credit: sawser

Stewart Swayze, a personal branding coach, explains why that could be. He begins by saying that when you go up in your career, you get more responsibilities. Now you have more things to manage and more tasks to complete.

What happens is that “When your breadth of responsibilities expands, there is less time to focus on specific functional tasks. For this sales example, less time increasing sales and delivering on targets. The Sales Leader has to balance his/her time. Trade-offs happen. Less time on one item or person and more time on another – opportunity cost.”

While the student agreed that he made a mistake and rules are there for a reason, Karen could have been more lenient in this situation

Image credits: Vicki Timman (not the actual photo)

The work week was ending, Karen knew who the IT guy was and he came knowing that he would probably have to stay after hours

Image credit: sawser

However, Karen didn’t take these circumstances into consideration and had to figure out what to do on her own

Image credit: sawser

However, a leader detached from reality will make the team get lost and may negatively impact their work results. As it happened with the media center’s manager in the story, she wanted to stick with the rules but didn’t evaluate the situation, which prevented the OP from doing his job and the professor getting his computer.

Do you think this was an appropriate place to ignore a rule that was put there for safety? Do you think the OP could have helped Karen despite his work day ending as it was a minor issue? Let us know your thoughts in the comments.

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emilymrangel avatar
over it already
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

45 business minutes to resolve a ticket sounds like great time. She wanted a ride on the "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" bus & she got one.

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James016
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work in the IT dept and when we were loaning out laptops we wrote down the name of the person loaning, date out and expected date back in the log. With 200 people in the office we needed to see their ID badge so we can put a face to a name and they are not impersonating any other staff. Also as we are ISO27001 company, everyone has to wear their ID badges in the office at all times. But Karen's policy is daft. Generally people know who their IT staff are and especially with such urgency she should have let it slide.

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m.w.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And especially as OP was not taking said laptop anywhere, just working on it in front of her.

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Linnoff
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How can I trust you are who you say you are, person I'm on a first-name basis with? Not to mention, he's not checking out the laptop, so when would his badge ever actually become relevant.

michaellargey avatar
Michael Largey
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Chicken and the egg kind of question : If the manager herself is a Karen, who does she demand to see?

savannahyoung avatar
S
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In no way, shape, form, or fashion is this IT person in the wrong. The numerous edits shouldn't have been needed... people shouldn't be blaming OP at all.

ladyfirerose avatar
Vira
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agree. I think this is another "Letter of the law vs spirit of the law" problem. She knows there are rules but completely missed the point of the rules, and the consequences of her choices

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Kevin Felton
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love how enough people were so wrapped up in the whole "rules are rules" mentality that he had to do 3 edits to defend himself. How pedantic can you be?

cateharris avatar
Amused panda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It seems to me that the outcome should have been completely obvious to Karen. After all, she would have known her location was 10 minutes' walk from the IT office, and at gone 10 to 5 (since the call came in at 4:40) it was inevitable that it would be gone 5pm before the member of staff got their badge. She only had herself to blame.

ladymortdujoie avatar
N D
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a society, we need to stop apologizing for not following rules that don't have a valid reason.

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Julie Ham
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Karen decided pulling rank was more important than achieving the desired results. She chose policy over practicality; compliance over common sense. OP followed the rules, as instructed. Time was wasted. Let's hope the "important professor" was at least able to accomplish the necessary work on Karen's laptop. She deserved to be inconveienced for this mishegas.

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Anonymous Joe
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What exactly is the point of all the redundant language in these types of articles on your website? Why is every single article of this kind on your site written in such a way as to regurgitate the very same set of facts over and over again? First you provide the original poster’s account, which is clear enough and sufficiently entertaining by itself, then for some inexplicable reason you feel the need to state those same facts over and over again from your own first-person perspective (even though you weren’t there). Not only is this extremely annoying for your readers, it is also an insult to the intelligence of your readers. The only reason that I can think of for employing such a writing style is to create a longer article, so that your firm can sell more advertising. I guess that’s why they call your website “clickbait.”

mosher2001 avatar
Matt Mosher
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its pretty annoying. I just skip to the original text which fortunately is in a different font and avoid the pointless clutter these articles tend to be full of.

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Paul Plante
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like how this was handled. This woman needed to see where her blind approach to policy was going to get her; which is, not very far.

ralawa505 avatar
R L Walker
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That Karen manager made a few key mistakes which bad managers make, and the irony of them is astounding. 1) She installed a rule which was not part of University policy. While rules in furtherance of policy may be helpful, if the purpose of policy is fulfilled, the redundancy is not necessary. Much better to amplify a critical concept, rather than a rote rule. 2) She set rules to micromanage people, rather than to allow their discretion or innate intelligence, which stifles ingenuity and initiative. This sort of behavior is not the mark of a confident leader, but of an insecure "straw-boss". 3) She stuck to her own rule so as to appear a good example, but in so doing, she undercut herself: (a) she did not use her authority to make a situational decision, and thus (b) she showed she was an unnecessary waste of salary and position. Real leaders provide guidance and encourage achievement. Scared bosses hold power but take no responsibility or initiative. "Means are not ends."

gcs5017907 avatar
Gemma Shanks
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Genius. Discretionary decisions in such instances can be made. Common sense is dying!

tommy_lee621 avatar
Tommy Lee
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Plenty of by the book people in this world, policy is contextual, if it makes sense do it otherwise no. Many people would argue well whats common sense to me isnt the same as yours. My response is learn to critical think and pick your battle.

mosher2001 avatar
Matt Mosher
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is pretty funny really. She got a bit of her own medicine. I hope she learned something but i doubt it. I feel for anyone unlucky enough to live or work with someone like her and the ridiculously rigid expectations.

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Jayson Smith
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In a time when so many people express fear of losing their jobs to a machine, robot, or ai. You would think people would hold most dear the ability to act and function as a human being, weighing emotionally superior intelligence factors not formally expressed through ones and zeros. But she made the conscience decision to act more like robot that human. Why wouldn’t these businesses choose to pay next to nothing for a more efficient option. We have to know and show our value, and understand what separates us from machines. She could have chose compassion and began her weekend on a positive note but she pretended not to understand the true purpose of the rule and use it as a function to display power rather than empathy. Thanks and have a good weekend seem like a far simpler and human response. A no brainer for most humans. We have become or worst fears long ago, now is the reckoning….😢.

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Gladys Hayes Southerland
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people are very rigid in their thinking & really cannot think outside of the rule box. They actually become anxious whenever something changes, even when it's a good change. Following Rules makes them feel safer, like they're more in control of their world. These people drive everyone else nuts unless you know how to work with them

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Craig Reynolds
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That Karen falls under the category of "stupid gets what stupid deserves.'"

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Susan Antonsen
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1) I hate the way this is written … you are telling the same story over and over again ..why? The IT guy should have been allowed to fix the computer in front of Karen and the person who couldn’t log on with a “ don’t forget your badge again “

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Fred Jacobson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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Elizabeth Eliades
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think this media dept head did anything wrong. She was following her department's policy. There's probably a very good reason for the badge wearing rule. It's not personal. If there's a better way to do things, make a new rule. Can't just change on the fly, then things fall apart. Not reasonable for the IT guy to expect the rules to change *just for him* without making a case of the benefits for *everyone in his role* or a *larger audience of stakeholders*. And then the IT guy went to get his badge but the day was over. Fine. And the media dept head was irritated. Very normal human reaction. This is all very normal workday stuff, nothing to get so excited about. I do however think it is inappropriate to call the media dept head a "Karen" (implying she's a b***h) for just doing her job. She didn't verbally attacked the guy personally. Just because you're pissed doesn't make it okay to call a woman a Karen. All jobs have annoying rules, don't take it out on the people.

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Eliza
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1 year ago

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Likely unpopular comment, but in this case OP was in the wrong and Media Center Head had every right to be angry. Making exceptions for a security policy is a quick way to make sure that the policy loses effectiveness. And secondly, OP essentially said "ok let me go get my badge" and then blew her off, she had every right to be angry at that point. OP had effectively said, I'll follow protocol when it suits me and ignore it if it doesn't. Yes, I realize that following policy, there was no good way to resolve the situation due to time constraints but the blame definitely falls on OP far more than it falls on her.

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Spencer Dodson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except that was HER department policy and not HIS. Also, not like he intentionally left his badge, it was on his jacket. And if she wants to play by stupid ‘rules’ that apply to her department, then he sure as hell is allowed to play by rules/policy that are applied to whole university. Lol

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emilymrangel avatar
over it already
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

45 business minutes to resolve a ticket sounds like great time. She wanted a ride on the "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" bus & she got one.

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James016
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I work in the IT dept and when we were loaning out laptops we wrote down the name of the person loaning, date out and expected date back in the log. With 200 people in the office we needed to see their ID badge so we can put a face to a name and they are not impersonating any other staff. Also as we are ISO27001 company, everyone has to wear their ID badges in the office at all times. But Karen's policy is daft. Generally people know who their IT staff are and especially with such urgency she should have let it slide.

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m.w.
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

And especially as OP was not taking said laptop anywhere, just working on it in front of her.

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Linnoff
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

How can I trust you are who you say you are, person I'm on a first-name basis with? Not to mention, he's not checking out the laptop, so when would his badge ever actually become relevant.

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Michael Largey
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Chicken and the egg kind of question : If the manager herself is a Karen, who does she demand to see?

savannahyoung avatar
S
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In no way, shape, form, or fashion is this IT person in the wrong. The numerous edits shouldn't have been needed... people shouldn't be blaming OP at all.

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Vira
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Agree. I think this is another "Letter of the law vs spirit of the law" problem. She knows there are rules but completely missed the point of the rules, and the consequences of her choices

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Kevin Felton
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1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I love how enough people were so wrapped up in the whole "rules are rules" mentality that he had to do 3 edits to defend himself. How pedantic can you be?

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Amused panda
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

It seems to me that the outcome should have been completely obvious to Karen. After all, she would have known her location was 10 minutes' walk from the IT office, and at gone 10 to 5 (since the call came in at 4:40) it was inevitable that it would be gone 5pm before the member of staff got their badge. She only had herself to blame.

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N D
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

As a society, we need to stop apologizing for not following rules that don't have a valid reason.

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Julie Ham
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Karen decided pulling rank was more important than achieving the desired results. She chose policy over practicality; compliance over common sense. OP followed the rules, as instructed. Time was wasted. Let's hope the "important professor" was at least able to accomplish the necessary work on Karen's laptop. She deserved to be inconveienced for this mishegas.

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Anonymous Joe
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

What exactly is the point of all the redundant language in these types of articles on your website? Why is every single article of this kind on your site written in such a way as to regurgitate the very same set of facts over and over again? First you provide the original poster’s account, which is clear enough and sufficiently entertaining by itself, then for some inexplicable reason you feel the need to state those same facts over and over again from your own first-person perspective (even though you weren’t there). Not only is this extremely annoying for your readers, it is also an insult to the intelligence of your readers. The only reason that I can think of for employing such a writing style is to create a longer article, so that your firm can sell more advertising. I guess that’s why they call your website “clickbait.”

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Matt Mosher
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Its pretty annoying. I just skip to the original text which fortunately is in a different font and avoid the pointless clutter these articles tend to be full of.

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Paul Plante
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I like how this was handled. This woman needed to see where her blind approach to policy was going to get her; which is, not very far.

ralawa505 avatar
R L Walker
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That Karen manager made a few key mistakes which bad managers make, and the irony of them is astounding. 1) She installed a rule which was not part of University policy. While rules in furtherance of policy may be helpful, if the purpose of policy is fulfilled, the redundancy is not necessary. Much better to amplify a critical concept, rather than a rote rule. 2) She set rules to micromanage people, rather than to allow their discretion or innate intelligence, which stifles ingenuity and initiative. This sort of behavior is not the mark of a confident leader, but of an insecure "straw-boss". 3) She stuck to her own rule so as to appear a good example, but in so doing, she undercut herself: (a) she did not use her authority to make a situational decision, and thus (b) she showed she was an unnecessary waste of salary and position. Real leaders provide guidance and encourage achievement. Scared bosses hold power but take no responsibility or initiative. "Means are not ends."

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Gemma Shanks
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Genius. Discretionary decisions in such instances can be made. Common sense is dying!

tommy_lee621 avatar
Tommy Lee
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Plenty of by the book people in this world, policy is contextual, if it makes sense do it otherwise no. Many people would argue well whats common sense to me isnt the same as yours. My response is learn to critical think and pick your battle.

mosher2001 avatar
Matt Mosher
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

This is pretty funny really. She got a bit of her own medicine. I hope she learned something but i doubt it. I feel for anyone unlucky enough to live or work with someone like her and the ridiculously rigid expectations.

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Jayson Smith
Community Member
1 year ago (edited) DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

In a time when so many people express fear of losing their jobs to a machine, robot, or ai. You would think people would hold most dear the ability to act and function as a human being, weighing emotionally superior intelligence factors not formally expressed through ones and zeros. But she made the conscience decision to act more like robot that human. Why wouldn’t these businesses choose to pay next to nothing for a more efficient option. We have to know and show our value, and understand what separates us from machines. She could have chose compassion and began her weekend on a positive note but she pretended not to understand the true purpose of the rule and use it as a function to display power rather than empathy. Thanks and have a good weekend seem like a far simpler and human response. A no brainer for most humans. We have become or worst fears long ago, now is the reckoning….😢.

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Gladys Hayes Southerland
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Some people are very rigid in their thinking & really cannot think outside of the rule box. They actually become anxious whenever something changes, even when it's a good change. Following Rules makes them feel safer, like they're more in control of their world. These people drive everyone else nuts unless you know how to work with them

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Craig Reynolds
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

That Karen falls under the category of "stupid gets what stupid deserves.'"

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Susan Antonsen
Community Member
1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

1) I hate the way this is written … you are telling the same story over and over again ..why? The IT guy should have been allowed to fix the computer in front of Karen and the person who couldn’t log on with a “ don’t forget your badge again “

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Fred Jacobson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

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Elizabeth Eliades
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

I don't think this media dept head did anything wrong. She was following her department's policy. There's probably a very good reason for the badge wearing rule. It's not personal. If there's a better way to do things, make a new rule. Can't just change on the fly, then things fall apart. Not reasonable for the IT guy to expect the rules to change *just for him* without making a case of the benefits for *everyone in his role* or a *larger audience of stakeholders*. And then the IT guy went to get his badge but the day was over. Fine. And the media dept head was irritated. Very normal human reaction. This is all very normal workday stuff, nothing to get so excited about. I do however think it is inappropriate to call the media dept head a "Karen" (implying she's a b***h) for just doing her job. She didn't verbally attacked the guy personally. Just because you're pissed doesn't make it okay to call a woman a Karen. All jobs have annoying rules, don't take it out on the people.

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Eliza
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1 year ago

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Likely unpopular comment, but in this case OP was in the wrong and Media Center Head had every right to be angry. Making exceptions for a security policy is a quick way to make sure that the policy loses effectiveness. And secondly, OP essentially said "ok let me go get my badge" and then blew her off, she had every right to be angry at that point. OP had effectively said, I'll follow protocol when it suits me and ignore it if it doesn't. Yes, I realize that following policy, there was no good way to resolve the situation due to time constraints but the blame definitely falls on OP far more than it falls on her.

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Spencer Dodson
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1 year ago DotsCreated by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

Except that was HER department policy and not HIS. Also, not like he intentionally left his badge, it was on his jacket. And if she wants to play by stupid ‘rules’ that apply to her department, then he sure as hell is allowed to play by rules/policy that are applied to whole university. Lol

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