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“People Asked For Our Address To Call CPS”: Woman Refuses To Let MIL Ruin Her Life, Sues Her
“People Asked For Our Address To Call CPS”: Woman Refuses To Let MIL Ruin Her Life, Sues Her
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“People Asked For Our Address To Call CPS”: Woman Refuses To Let MIL Ruin Her Life, Sues Her

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Life presents us with various complicated relationships, whether it’s between a boss and employee, husband and wife, or professor and student. However, the one between a spouse and mother-in-law can sometimes be the most challenging, especially when it comes to protecting their own families.

At the beginning of her marriage, redditor Legitimate_Ant_1293wouldn’t have agreed with this. However, after moving a few states away and giving birth, her relationship with her husband’s mother became increasingly worse. It reached a point where the MIL started spreading awful rumors about her grandchild, leading to a defamation lawsuit against her.

Scroll down to find the full story and a conversation with marriage and family therapists Talia Wagner and Danni Biondini, who kindly agreed to tell us more about the daughter-in-law and mother-in-law relationship.

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    Relationships between a spouse and mother-in-law can be challenging

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    This MIL even started spreading awful rumors about her grandchild to ‘protect’ her family

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    The most common sources of tension between the two women in the family come from control over decision-making, parenting, and finances

    To get a better insight into daughter-in-law and mother-in-law relationships Bored Panda reached out to marriage and family therapists Talia Wagner and Danni Biondini, who kindly agreed to answer a few questions about it. 

    Biondini says, “I don’t feel confident saying that the majority of these relationships are tense or toxic, but I do think these relationships are often complicated and challenging.” She explains that the major source of conflict between them arises from being in different psychosocial and developmental stages. 

    “For the daughter-in-law, she’s in the stage of deepening intimacy with her partner while also trying to maintain her autonomy. A mother-in-law is likely in the mid-life stage of generativity: she’s already established her career and family, and is now wanting to share her knowledge and experience with the younger generation.”

    Disagreements may arise when the mother-in-law wants to offer suggestions or guidance to the daughter-in-law, but she sees this gesture as intrusive or dismissive. “The mother-in-law, in turn, experiences the daughter as closed-off or rejecting her,” Biondini says.

    Wagner adds that this relationship can depend on several factors, such as proximity, culture, and family dynamics. “For example, daughters-in-law who live with their mothers-in-law in co-residence settings, have a much closer proximity to the in-laws and may be culturally expected to be subservient to the senior woman. 

    In more Westernized cultures, more often than not, daughters-in-law have more freedom and autonomy, as it is not culturally appropriate to live in intergenerational familial settings. However, this doesn’t ensure a more close-knit relationship. Out of all familial connections, this is often the most potentially conflictual relationship, and as such, many report tense and even toxic patterns with their mother-in-law and daughters-in-law.”

    The most common sources of tension between the two women in the family, according to experts, come from shifting ties and allegiances, control over decision-making, parenting, and finances. Changes in roles for wife and mother-in-law can be difficult to navigate at first, as they’re faced with situations that none of them have had to deal with before. 

    It might be best to adopt a non-conflictual style of communication and peaceful engagement

    “In terms of conflict resolution, I try to help each person see the other’s perspective, even just a little bit,” says Biondini. “This is a vulnerable change for both of them, and I want each person to have empathy for the other. Can the daughter-in-law appreciate that her mother-in-law may be challenged by the shifting roles in the family, and may feel that she has lost the closeness she once had with her adult child?”

    On the other hand, “Can the mother-in-law appreciate that the daughter-in-law likely feels unstable as the new entrant in the family system, and especially needs to cement her primary bond with her partner?”

    When it comes to concrete actions, it may help them to spend more one-on-one time by having lunch together and getting to know each other as people. “Oftentimes, we have built up a fantasy in our head of who the other person is, but that fantasy is colored by our greatest fears or anxieties. Showing up with openness and generosity in getting to know the other person can help break down the barriers to seeing the goodness in the other.”

    Meanwhile, Wagner says it might be best to adopt a non-conflictual style of communication and peaceful engagement. “As family discord affects our health and mental health quite severely, it is oftentimes more valuable to express remorse and take responsibility for the actions that we take rather than to double down on blaming, rifts, and disagreements.”

    If conflicts get severe, then the interactions should be kept to a minimum, focusing on being cordial rather than over-involved and enmeshed. “Emotional distance can protect our feelings and our well-being in particularly dysfunctional families,” she notes.

    “Not forcing the spouse to take sides between both parties can be a lifesaver within potentially conflictual family dynamics. Also, self-care and having a good support system outside of the family can help reduce anger, resentment, and the need to punish each other over perceived hurts. This will go a long way towards reducing intergenerational trauma and ensuring that the next generation does not engage in the same emotionally abusive tactics towards one another,” concludes Wagner.

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    What do you think ?
    Kylie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Her baby"? This woman needs professional help, she's mentally unhinged. And that's not even taking into account her trying to get custody etc.

    Rayne OfSalt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Professional help? Nah, she needs to be locked up in a padded cell.

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    Paul C
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel sorry for the husband. He seems an outstanding man. How the hell did he manage to grow up like that when he had such a mother???

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think you should use the full extent of the law when it comes to your MIL. Let that hammer come down on her without mercy.

    Seanette Blaylock
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do feel a little sorry for the OP's FIL, since his wife's going to take him down with her. Still, he has the option to bail out if he has the stones to leave her to clean up her own trainwreck.

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    JuniorCJ82
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sue the ever-loving F**K out of her. Go NC and only allow FIL to ever see or hear about the baby, forever.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the most concerning parts of the scenario is the "flying monkeys" responding and the damage that ensued. The MIL got the ball rolling yelling fire in the theater, but the people who responded by actually committing these acts are just as concerning if not more so. There are (typically) no repercussions against these demented people, they get to bring down all kinds of hell on innocent people and face no justice, hiding behind the "anonymity" the internet offers. If I were in their shoes I'd shop till I found an attorney and (try) to go after every person involved in that mess and wring every dime out of them I could squeeze if it meant taking their $400 hoopity and their cell phones out of their hands. They would be afraid I'd take their pillow from under their heads. Then I'd turn my attention to the MIL. That old battleaxe would be afraid to open her curtains for fear of process servers. I'd torment her til she ended up in an asylum. Scorched earth is not enough here.

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    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First order of business is a restraining order.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Psychosis can't make you an AH if you aren't already. You just can't hide it anymore. So I think NC and restraining order, but FIL should look into her medication. Amitriptyline caused me a similar issue, I only had a few doses and was hallucinating, but I had symptoms of psychosis for a while and it made me aggressive and unhinged. Luckily I had the sense to notice the change. I suppose if I were an angry aggressive person, maybe I wouldn't have. But I spent about a week mostly locking myself in a room and apologizing to my partner for outbursts. (Thankfully not at him, mostly about broken healthcare systems and the government) But I'd never had trouble controlling anger or that level of sobbing before. It also made me hallucinate and have terrible nightmares. Once it was out of my system it still took me a long time to get my balance back. Whatever it did to my brain chemistry was followed by extreme anxiety and depression, and it took months to be back to baseline.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For a person LIke MIL with no empathy or self awareness at the best of times, she might not know she's psychotic.

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    Secret Squirrel
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MiL is maybe too old for it, but this was essentially my mom when she was going through menopause. She'd always been a little that way, but she was over the top vindictive and unhinged for a few years. Spreading lies, trying to manipulate people, wrecking ratio ships as best she could. And even when you'd confront her it was like she didn't remember doing it. It was awful. I moved far away and kept as LC as possible. Not sure why my Dad didn't leave. But, as suddenly as she lost it, it stopped after a few years. She seems to have no memory of what she did. And how crazy she got. My dad confirms it's more than just pretending, she thinks I've made it all up. His life is back to normal so he doesn't want me showing her receipts. OPs MIL sounds awful and I think they should go NC, but this honestly sounds like psychosis on top of being an AH.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Screenshot everything so she can't delete it ahead of her case. She needs therapy as well as the cold hard wake up call getting sued will bring. She's put your lives in danger by your address being known now as welll. What an absolute shitshow :(

    Seanette Blaylock
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That woman is (bleep) DERANGED. She needs a restraining order and a psych hold ASAP. Since when is it HER baby, when she was not the woman giving birth to said baby?

    Bart
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Talk about a MIL from hell! Hope she get the punishment she deserves

    Secret Squirrel
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On probation for harassment with court mandated anger management?

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    Kylie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    "Her baby"? This woman needs professional help, she's mentally unhinged. And that's not even taking into account her trying to get custody etc.

    Rayne OfSalt
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Professional help? Nah, she needs to be locked up in a padded cell.

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    Paul C
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I feel sorry for the husband. He seems an outstanding man. How the hell did he manage to grow up like that when he had such a mother???

    Alexandra
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think you should use the full extent of the law when it comes to your MIL. Let that hammer come down on her without mercy.

    Seanette Blaylock
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I do feel a little sorry for the OP's FIL, since his wife's going to take him down with her. Still, he has the option to bail out if he has the stones to leave her to clean up her own trainwreck.

    Load More Replies...
    JuniorCJ82
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Sue the ever-loving F**K out of her. Go NC and only allow FIL to ever see or hear about the baby, forever.

    Mike F
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of the most concerning parts of the scenario is the "flying monkeys" responding and the damage that ensued. The MIL got the ball rolling yelling fire in the theater, but the people who responded by actually committing these acts are just as concerning if not more so. There are (typically) no repercussions against these demented people, they get to bring down all kinds of hell on innocent people and face no justice, hiding behind the "anonymity" the internet offers. If I were in their shoes I'd shop till I found an attorney and (try) to go after every person involved in that mess and wring every dime out of them I could squeeze if it meant taking their $400 hoopity and their cell phones out of their hands. They would be afraid I'd take their pillow from under their heads. Then I'd turn my attention to the MIL. That old battleaxe would be afraid to open her curtains for fear of process servers. I'd torment her til she ended up in an asylum. Scorched earth is not enough here.

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    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    First order of business is a restraining order.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Psychosis can't make you an AH if you aren't already. You just can't hide it anymore. So I think NC and restraining order, but FIL should look into her medication. Amitriptyline caused me a similar issue, I only had a few doses and was hallucinating, but I had symptoms of psychosis for a while and it made me aggressive and unhinged. Luckily I had the sense to notice the change. I suppose if I were an angry aggressive person, maybe I wouldn't have. But I spent about a week mostly locking myself in a room and apologizing to my partner for outbursts. (Thankfully not at him, mostly about broken healthcare systems and the government) But I'd never had trouble controlling anger or that level of sobbing before. It also made me hallucinate and have terrible nightmares. Once it was out of my system it still took me a long time to get my balance back. Whatever it did to my brain chemistry was followed by extreme anxiety and depression, and it took months to be back to baseline.

    FreeTheUnicorn
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    For a person LIke MIL with no empathy or self awareness at the best of times, she might not know she's psychotic.

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    Secret Squirrel
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MiL is maybe too old for it, but this was essentially my mom when she was going through menopause. She'd always been a little that way, but she was over the top vindictive and unhinged for a few years. Spreading lies, trying to manipulate people, wrecking ratio ships as best she could. And even when you'd confront her it was like she didn't remember doing it. It was awful. I moved far away and kept as LC as possible. Not sure why my Dad didn't leave. But, as suddenly as she lost it, it stopped after a few years. She seems to have no memory of what she did. And how crazy she got. My dad confirms it's more than just pretending, she thinks I've made it all up. His life is back to normal so he doesn't want me showing her receipts. OPs MIL sounds awful and I think they should go NC, but this honestly sounds like psychosis on top of being an AH.

    KatSaidWhat
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Screenshot everything so she can't delete it ahead of her case. She needs therapy as well as the cold hard wake up call getting sued will bring. She's put your lives in danger by your address being known now as welll. What an absolute shitshow :(

    Seanette Blaylock
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That woman is (bleep) DERANGED. She needs a restraining order and a psych hold ASAP. Since when is it HER baby, when she was not the woman giving birth to said baby?

    Bart
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Talk about a MIL from hell! Hope she get the punishment she deserves

    Secret Squirrel
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    On probation for harassment with court mandated anger management?

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