Woman Refuses To Let Her Vegan Friend Control Every Night Out, Finally Claps Back: “It Was Disgusting”
It’s never okay to impose your beliefs on someone else. Whether it’s religious inclinations, music preferences, or dietary choices, doing so only creates conflict that no one wants.
Some people still do it, unfortunately, like this woman named Lauren. Being a devout vegan, she would make her friends feel bad for eating meat. Everyone had already adjusted to her needs and wants, but it wasn’t enough for her.
Having grown tired of Lauren’s arrogance and toxicity, one of her friends gave it to her straight. But instead of acknowledging her shortcomings, she tried to turn things around.
Some people can be toxic about their veganism
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This is what a woman named Lauren did with her friend group
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One of them called her out on her behavior, which she still refused to acknowledge
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Toxic veganism is often a result of a misunderstanding of the concept
Lauren isn’t the only one to get a bad rap because of her choice to lean toward veganism. We’ve all seen the stereotypical “toxic” vegan, whether in real life or on TV/online, one who judges you for consuming animal products in some form.
But as it turns out, such destructive beliefs could be a result of the person misunderstanding the concept of being vegan.
As psychologist Claire Mann explained, veganism is more of a philosophical position than just a dietary choice, and it is something that most people misinterpret.
Veteran animal rights activist and YouTuber who simply goes by the name Mexie says this misunderstanding is the reason why veganism has developed such a sour reputation.
“When we make everything about someone’s individual consumer list instead of a broader political movement for animal liberation, we end up being incredibly insensitive to people who may have issues around food security, or health issues, or disabilities that make it next to impossible to be fully plant-based,” Mexie said in an interview with the Vegetarian Times.
Lauren may not fully understand the idea of veganism, but her behavior alienated her friends in the process. Chartered psychologist Dr. Audrey Tang acknowledges that toxic behavior is, oftentimes, unintentional, but requires addressing.
“By calling (them) out (kindly), you have given them the opportunity to reflect,” Dr. Tang wrote in an article for her website. “And if they cannot, you need to decide whether to continue that relationship or not.”
Based on the author’s account, the other friends are also seemingly othered by Lauren’s behavior. She has already done her part with the polite callout and may need to rethink the friendship if the toxicity persists.
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The author addressed some of the readers’ reactions
Many people in the comments sided with her
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The author later shared an update, stating she wasn’t too kind to Lauren this time around
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She later addressed the comments in her follow-up
Many commended her for what she did
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Funny how she says that OP should "enjoy the company enough not to care" but that doesn't work the other way round.
Yes. Selfishness/self-righteousness is ALWAYS a one-way street.
Load More Replies...THE ONE YTA, “anon” (how original /s), sounds like Lauren or one of her flying monkeys saw the posting and went off, trying to make OP look bad. Guess what? Didn’t work. Lauren is an a*****e.
There are many years where I lived on a vegan or vegetarian diet, and never once did I make it about me, nor did I ever try to convert anyone. It was my personal choice but NOT my personality. The same goes for drinking.
I would order "Double or Triple" meat, look in her eyes and say: "These Animals WERE EATING "YOUR" FOOD, Therefore I'm "Saving Your Life" because now there's more food for you to eat.
compromise is a two way street. If someone refuses to compromise and lectures you on your life choices, choose to no longer have them around when you make them.
wondering why OP doesn't start a new supper group with all of her friends who like meat
A variation something my priest taught me in pre-marriage counseling 30 years ago, so simple, yet brilliant. "I'm going to Saturday Night to have a steak and a few drinks, want to join me?" Then, go Saturday, have a steak and a few drinks, regardless of the answers from the group. In your case, some will probalby show, if none do, expand your freind group.
Aslo, when she sends he "lectures" on alcohol, I'd send back all the negatives that can come from a vegan diet....:D
Load More Replies...Accommodating for heat illness is not just a little thing. Once you’ve had it- especially heat stroke- it gets harder to avoid it. If it’s milder forms of heat illness it’s more likely you’ll get the more severe types. Regarding avoiding conflict or confrontation - that’s almost everyone. I don’t like it but have dealt with it because the alternative was more of the same bad behavior. The “joke” of “how do you know someone is vegan? They’ll tell you”has evangelicals trying to repurpose that for atheists but It’s so far off the mark.
Vegan, vegetarian, religious, polyamorous, gym bunny, obsessive knitter... great! You do you. And leave me to be me.
OP "supposed to go" every social event without drinking, as L was always present. OP did not imply that vegan food is bad, she merely expressed her wish to have a choice, at least, sometimes, as she pays a lot for these occasions. The problem was that everybody had to follow the whims of one, and nobody else had a chance to influence the decision. As many of us mentioned: we all were in a situation when we decided to not order any food item at that particular place. And we survived, and our friendships also survived.
Load More Replies...Funny how she says that OP should "enjoy the company enough not to care" but that doesn't work the other way round.
Yes. Selfishness/self-righteousness is ALWAYS a one-way street.
Load More Replies...THE ONE YTA, “anon” (how original /s), sounds like Lauren or one of her flying monkeys saw the posting and went off, trying to make OP look bad. Guess what? Didn’t work. Lauren is an a*****e.
There are many years where I lived on a vegan or vegetarian diet, and never once did I make it about me, nor did I ever try to convert anyone. It was my personal choice but NOT my personality. The same goes for drinking.
I would order "Double or Triple" meat, look in her eyes and say: "These Animals WERE EATING "YOUR" FOOD, Therefore I'm "Saving Your Life" because now there's more food for you to eat.
compromise is a two way street. If someone refuses to compromise and lectures you on your life choices, choose to no longer have them around when you make them.
wondering why OP doesn't start a new supper group with all of her friends who like meat
A variation something my priest taught me in pre-marriage counseling 30 years ago, so simple, yet brilliant. "I'm going to Saturday Night to have a steak and a few drinks, want to join me?" Then, go Saturday, have a steak and a few drinks, regardless of the answers from the group. In your case, some will probalby show, if none do, expand your freind group.
Aslo, when she sends he "lectures" on alcohol, I'd send back all the negatives that can come from a vegan diet....:D
Load More Replies...Accommodating for heat illness is not just a little thing. Once you’ve had it- especially heat stroke- it gets harder to avoid it. If it’s milder forms of heat illness it’s more likely you’ll get the more severe types. Regarding avoiding conflict or confrontation - that’s almost everyone. I don’t like it but have dealt with it because the alternative was more of the same bad behavior. The “joke” of “how do you know someone is vegan? They’ll tell you”has evangelicals trying to repurpose that for atheists but It’s so far off the mark.
Vegan, vegetarian, religious, polyamorous, gym bunny, obsessive knitter... great! You do you. And leave me to be me.
OP "supposed to go" every social event without drinking, as L was always present. OP did not imply that vegan food is bad, she merely expressed her wish to have a choice, at least, sometimes, as she pays a lot for these occasions. The problem was that everybody had to follow the whims of one, and nobody else had a chance to influence the decision. As many of us mentioned: we all were in a situation when we decided to not order any food item at that particular place. And we survived, and our friendships also survived.
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