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MIL Expects To Stay With Son For 2 Years Instead Of A Month, Gets A Reality Check
MIL Expects To Stay With Son For 2 Years Instead Of A Month, Gets A Reality Check
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MIL Expects To Stay With Son For 2 Years Instead Of A Month, Gets A Reality Check

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Even if you like your in-laws, there’s a certain limit you might not want to exceed when it comes to spending time together. Visiting them for a weekend? Great! Going on a weeklong vacation? Why not? Living together for the foreseeable future? No, thank you.

When this redditor was talking to her husband about hosting his mom in their home, she was excited to do it. But the excitement didn’t take long to fade, as instead of coming for a month, as the OP thought that she would, her MIL was considering staying more than half a year, which didn’t take long to turn into a family drama. Scroll down to find the full story below, where you will also find a couple of updates on how the situation unfolded.

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    That was because her husband and his mom had a longer stay in mind

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    Text discussing mother-in-law planning to stay for two years; reality check on expected visit duration.

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    Text conversation about mother-in-law's unexpected extended stay plans.

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    Text discussing fairness of parents' visits, with a son's perspective on in-law expectations.

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    For many people, relationships with their in-laws are worse than those with their parents

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    Even though you can choose your partner, you can’t choose their family, which means that an instant loving relationship isn’t guaranteed. While that can change over time, the in-law relationships often remain a complex issue, which might call for being both somewhat flexible and understanding and able to set clear boundaries at the same time.

    Studies on in-law relationships suggest that people tend to have more troubles with their in-laws than their own parents. One study found that in the US, men and women both reported more conflict with mothers-in-law than with their mothers, while moms reported more conflict with their daughters-in-law than with their daughters.

    Psychologist, writer, and Fellow Emerita of Newnham College Cambridge, Terri Apter, points out that such relationships have a “special potential for conflict.” Whether they involve a parent-in-law, child-in-law, or sibling-in-law, arguments can be difficult, if not impossible, to escape. However, according to the expert, “The most heated and persistent problems arise between two women—the wife and the husband’s mother.”

    Apter notes that while 15% of mother-in-law and son-in-law relationships experience some tension, as much as 60% of mother-in-law and daughter-in-law relationships are described by negative terminology, such as “strained,” “uncomfortable,” “infuriating,” “depressing,” “draining,”and “simply awful.”

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    It’s not uncommon for a man’s wife and his mother to have a strained relationship

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    According to Apter, the problem with the relationship between the two important women in a man’s life—his wife and his mother—arises from their similar positions, as they are both the primary women in their primary family.

    “As each tries to establish or protect her status, each feels threatened by the other,” the expert wrote. “‘What will I have to relinquish if I respect your position in the family?’ and ‘Will I retain my importance if I acknowledge yours?’ signal a vulnerability that can lead to competition over emotive issues about who has more power and more influence in the domestic sphere.”

    While protecting a certain status or controlling the sense of competition is easier to do when the women—or any in-laws, for that matter—are apart, living under one roof for a prolonged period of time can be difficult. According to Marriage.com, living with the in-laws might cause troubles related to decision-making or interference in the couple’s life. The in-laws might have opinions or advice they want to share, which can be a cause for conflict if the couple wants to live their lives how they see fit. There can also be contradicting traditions, which can create tension when under the same roof.

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    According to the aforementioned source, it’s crucial for couples to communicate openly about their expectations and compromise in order to find a solution that works for everyone. Open communication was the route that the OP took when talking to her husband about his mother’s visit. While it wasn’t easy, the woman “held her ground,” and while the entire situation might have negatively affected her relationship with the in-laws—both her mother and sister-in-law—the couple and the visitor eventually did manage to find a compromise. The OP opened up about how that went in the two updates she shared after the initial post.

    The wife provided more details in the comments

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    Discussion on MIL's extended stay impacting couple's intimacy and dynamics at home.

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    Discussion on staying arrangements, emphasizing family orientation and adjusting to climate differences.

    Most netizens didn’t think the wife was being a jerk to her husband or his mother

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    Comment on mother-in-law living situation, suggesting independent accommodation in Canada.

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    Text explaining that there's no two-year visitor visa to Canada, only a five-year supervisa.

    Comment on forum discussing mother-in-law expecting long stay with son.

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    Comment discussing staying with son for 2 years, mentioning cultural pressures, life impact, and marriage challenges.

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    Comment advising compromise on MIL's extended stay, suggesting a rental after a month.

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    Comment discussing intergenerational households and the importance of communication with son and MIL.

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    Soon after, the woman uploaded an update, letting the netizens know how things were going

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    Discussion about MIL's extended stay expectations and adapting to Canadian lifestyle changes.

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    Emotional text discussing MIL expectations of staying with son for two years impacting parenthood plans.

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    Text about MIL compromise on a regular visa for a 6-month stay, with an option for a super visa later.

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    Text about a man's lengthy call with his mom and sister, mainly listening, in a backyard setting.

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    Text message from mother-in-law about staying longer, discussing family expectations and cultural beliefs.

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    Text exchange discussing staying with son and communication improvements.

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    Text about family relationships and expectations involving a MIL visiting for two years instead of one month.

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    Text exchange about MIL's extended stay, discussing boundaries and feedback.

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    Fellow netizens shared their thoughts in the comments

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    The woman shared a second update after having talked to her mother-in-law

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    Text conversation about MIL’s extended stay and family dynamics in Canada.

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    Text about husband discussing MIL's expectations and reality of son's stay.

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    Text excerpt discussing expectations and adjustments for MIL's visit, changing from 2 years to 30 days.

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    The discussion in the comments continued

    Discussion on setting boundaries with MIL during her extended stay; emphasizes respect and personal space.

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    Text comment about MIL's extended stay, supporting a 30-day visit limit.

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    Comment on MIL overstaying her visit and family concerns about her extended stay.

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    A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

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    The Other Guest
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP has written two more updates on this one, the teal deer of which is: MIL's visa application was rejected & she's trying to guilt OP into moving to move closer. OP says not gonna happen, and is relieved that MIL isn't coming.

    Panda Kicki
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope. She made a new post 5 days ago. MIL is coming and is even more pissed now. Also, they may have been plotting to lure OP over to Pakistan and keep her there,.apparently OP.had no clue she and the baby was considered Pakistan citizens (dual). She is now afraid to go to BILs wedding with the baby and plans to leave him at home or stay at home with him Check OP profile.

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    Lee Gilliland
    Community Member
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My alarms started going off big-time when I read about the difference between the (nonexistant) two-year visa and the five year one. Her husband is gaslighting her.

    Royal Stray
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah at this point OP should probably very quietly look into divorce with 100% child care, and tell her lawyer that she's worried her husband and MIL will kidnap the baby and fly him to Pakistan. Because at this point I wouldn't put it the MIL. Or at the very least keep MIL in an hotel and have her in the house as little as possible. OP is lucky if this is just an awful month and not worse

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    Michael MacKinnon
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Last I looked (and I used to work for IRCC), Canada has the six months-less-a-day standard visitors' visa and the recently expanded to five years Parents and Grandparents Supervisa (basically, a stealth family reunification). Either way, the ***sponsor*** needs to purchase $100k coverage ***private health insurance*** for the duration -- the person sponsored is ***not eligible*** for Canadian provincial health insurance. THAT appears not to have been discussed once with OP in all of this.

    Maureen Dance
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    $100k? May I take a moment to say YIKES! That's a lot to not tell OP.

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    Lyoness
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm lucky enough to have an amazing MIL and a great relationship with her but I wouldn't have her visit overnight for a week, never mind a month. Anything over 7 days should mean an automatic move to a hotel. I really hope OP listens to the advice on setting boundaries and having a way to get out because she's going to need it.

    Nils Skirnir
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex and I had her single, pensioner MIL live with us and fully intended her to live with us till her innings ran out. It lasted five months as she was always complaining, was bored, afraid to join anything, and constantly compared our household to ex’s siblings. She finally said she wouldn’t live with us and we found her an apartment close to her son and paid for it. A week before the move she begged to stay with us. I still believe inter generational families can be blessings, but everyone has to want it.

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    TruthoftheHeart
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is exactly why I hate all religion, every single person I've met that's religious has some sort of entitlement over other people's lives and Life experiences.

    Bartlet for world domination
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm an atheist in a church choir and I know many religious people who will just let everyone be.

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    Deborah B
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this sounds like a situation where OP needs to look into whether it's possible to surrender the Pakistani citizenship for herself and her baby, and not ever allow herself or the baby to visit Pakistan. I would also be keeping all the baby's documents, especially passports and birthcertificate at her parents place, along with anything she might need if she needs to get out suddenly. Definately get cameras in the house while MIL visits. And yes, if MIL overstays by one minute, she needs to be out the door with her son and move in with her parents. Honestly, I think because of the difference between cultural expectations and what OP will accept, OP should insist MIL not stay with them at all, it's only going to be trouble. It would be better to get a short term rental for her nearby, and she can visit every day without moving in.

    Har
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    8 months ago

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    Guess u didn't catch the part where she says she's Pakistani also & knows her parents will b moving in eventually. Hypocrite. Y her mil is pissed rightfully

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    roddy
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MIL expects not only to move in, but to take over and be the head of the house having everything her way. You have to shut that down.

    Dragons Exist
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It always annoys me when people say things like "in [place] we do [thing]", as if telling someone how other people do a thing is supposed to change their mind

    CP
    Community Member
    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most cultures have nonsensical traditions that are just "this is the way we have always done it". I am not saying it is right but it is cross cultural and very human.

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    Betsy S
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She needs to make sure there's a nanny cam in the baby's room too. Who knows what that woman might do to the baby?

    Michael Largey
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP should say to her husband "I totally understand your wanting to host your mom while she's here. So be sure to send her your new address as soon as you find an apartment. Let me know it too so I know where to mail the restraining order."

    Janelle Collard
    Community Member
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with all of the "Have go bags packed for you + your baby" cuz MIL was totally going to try to stay longer than a month. The update I read was from 2 days ago + it says MIL did not get the longer-staying Visa.

    Bryn
    Community Member
    Premium
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should hve been a conversation WAY before the visa ever came out.

    Nathan Lewis
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you can't move to another country and demand the same treatment you receive in your home country. stay in pakistan if your heritage is that important.

    Key Lime
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have them come to Canada in the middle of winter and see how they like it.

    Sparkle
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Alright am I the only one that has a 1 week rule with visiting ppl. My mom goes by staying longer than 1 week is over staying your welcome unless the person you are visiting invites you to stay longer and always help! You may be a guest but offer to help load or unload the dishwasher, help set the table ECT

    Upstaged75
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents have rules for how long my brother and his family are allowed to stay with them. They're not very good houseguests and they let their kids make huge messes without cleaning up. Poor mom is usually exhausted after a few days. She's made it clear that she's getting too old to be their cook and maid as well as being expected to entertain the kids. So she has a limit on how long they can stay in the house.

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    HardBoiledBlonde
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All of this should have been discussed prior to getting married/ partnering and having a child.

    Har
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    8 months ago

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    She's says she's Pakistani also & knows her parents will b coming eventually. HYPOCRITE

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    Donna Peluda
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reminds me of what happened to a guy a knew. He, Spanish married a Moroccan girl..We used to have friends in common. She was never very religious, never prayed ate Jamon, etc etc. The moment they had a child, baby girl she flipped. Family started coming over and she, started wearing a vail, going to the mosque and follow strict islamic codes. At first the guy thought it was a fase and once all the family went home she would snap out if it. She had Spanish nationality and got her mother over permanently to raise the girl in their fath. Eventually he moved out and pays child support and gets to see his daughter twice a month.

    Katie Manning
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP is absolutely insane for allowing this visit at all. At best, it's going to be 31 days of hell. At worst, and most likely, MIL is going arrive and NEVER leave. She literally told OP her intention was to move in permanently. At that point the invitation should have been revoked. Girl, how red do those flags need to be?

    Kate Johnson
    Community Member
    Premium
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She should leave this guy. He's gone native.

    Har
    Community Member
    8 months ago

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    Thy come from the same place. She says she knows her parents r coming to stay eventually. HYPOCRITE

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    Sue Ellen Bowen
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd be crawling the walls after a week of houseguests. I'd never survive a month.

    Kristina Atwood
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why would he be so dramatic as to sleep on the couch? I thought there was a guest room. Pretend suffering is gaslighting and serious manipulation. If she's winding up her practice and has a husband, they need their own place. Your MIL seems to want to be matriarch of YOUR home. No, that's you. Please don't give in.

    Adnew
    Community Member
    8 months ago

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    JuniorCJ82
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run, run far. Divorce and sue for fraud.

    FranSinclair
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow theres definitely some resentment and lack of open communication in the marriage. Im with OP. Theres nothing worse than beinf uncomfortable in your home especially sharing it with someone with different views that yourself. Maybe im giving credit where its not due but what i thought i may have heard from hubby was his way of saying "i feel like an outsider. Im beinf taken over by your family while greatly missing mine. I feel alone and i want my mom." I wouldnt want my husband to feel like that and definitely feel that and think a compromise needs made. Moms a dr. Cant she afford a 1 person appt near by? Love knows no bounds or boarders but people need to be more aware of dual citizenship. My boss ( an American) got *trapped* in the County of Georgia during a war bc she had taken her newborn to visit his fathers family righr before it got bad. She could leave but she couldn't take her baby so they had to stay awhile and fight to leave. Crazy

    Nina
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP shouldve crushed this s**t immediately. She's going to be bulldozed anyway now. If she has any spine at all, be as assertive and ruling as possible when mil comes. OP needs to really show that she's the boss or her whole life is f****d.

    Tonyah Mcanelly
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a tough one because I definitely see both sides . as a grand parent I live clear across the country from them and because flights are incredibly expensive. I think grand parents have some rights but at the same time you have to be respectful of your childrens boundaries. If your child or their spouse is having anxiety about this its our responsibility to not add to the anxiety . Right after my first grand child was born I stayed at my brothers for a month and visited the kids a few times a wee. This gave them space to acclimate to their new family and I still got to see the little one quite often. A short visit works well and is probably best especially if you really dont know your guest very well .

    Katchen
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my parents is an immigrant and my grandma used to stay with us for the longest (6 months) that was allowable by immigration rules at that time. Those were looooong 6 month stretches.

    Dee Tag
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This story is sad. It takes a village to raise a child. She already made up her mind that she wasn't going to enjoy the experience without even trying it. The more love a child grows up with, the better their development, confidence and overall mental health will be. Anyway, Canadian winters ain't no joke. 3 months and MIL will be dying to go back.

    Har
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    8 months ago

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    The Other Guest
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP has written two more updates on this one, the teal deer of which is: MIL's visa application was rejected & she's trying to guilt OP into moving to move closer. OP says not gonna happen, and is relieved that MIL isn't coming.

    Panda Kicki
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Nope. She made a new post 5 days ago. MIL is coming and is even more pissed now. Also, they may have been plotting to lure OP over to Pakistan and keep her there,.apparently OP.had no clue she and the baby was considered Pakistan citizens (dual). She is now afraid to go to BILs wedding with the baby and plans to leave him at home or stay at home with him Check OP profile.

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    Lee Gilliland
    Community Member
    Premium
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My alarms started going off big-time when I read about the difference between the (nonexistant) two-year visa and the five year one. Her husband is gaslighting her.

    Royal Stray
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Yeah at this point OP should probably very quietly look into divorce with 100% child care, and tell her lawyer that she's worried her husband and MIL will kidnap the baby and fly him to Pakistan. Because at this point I wouldn't put it the MIL. Or at the very least keep MIL in an hotel and have her in the house as little as possible. OP is lucky if this is just an awful month and not worse

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    Michael MacKinnon
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Last I looked (and I used to work for IRCC), Canada has the six months-less-a-day standard visitors' visa and the recently expanded to five years Parents and Grandparents Supervisa (basically, a stealth family reunification). Either way, the ***sponsor*** needs to purchase $100k coverage ***private health insurance*** for the duration -- the person sponsored is ***not eligible*** for Canadian provincial health insurance. THAT appears not to have been discussed once with OP in all of this.

    Maureen Dance
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    $100k? May I take a moment to say YIKES! That's a lot to not tell OP.

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    Lyoness
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm lucky enough to have an amazing MIL and a great relationship with her but I wouldn't have her visit overnight for a week, never mind a month. Anything over 7 days should mean an automatic move to a hotel. I really hope OP listens to the advice on setting boundaries and having a way to get out because she's going to need it.

    Nils Skirnir
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My ex and I had her single, pensioner MIL live with us and fully intended her to live with us till her innings ran out. It lasted five months as she was always complaining, was bored, afraid to join anything, and constantly compared our household to ex’s siblings. She finally said she wouldn’t live with us and we found her an apartment close to her son and paid for it. A week before the move she begged to stay with us. I still believe inter generational families can be blessings, but everyone has to want it.

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    TruthoftheHeart
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is exactly why I hate all religion, every single person I've met that's religious has some sort of entitlement over other people's lives and Life experiences.

    Bartlet for world domination
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm an atheist in a church choir and I know many religious people who will just let everyone be.

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    Deborah B
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think this sounds like a situation where OP needs to look into whether it's possible to surrender the Pakistani citizenship for herself and her baby, and not ever allow herself or the baby to visit Pakistan. I would also be keeping all the baby's documents, especially passports and birthcertificate at her parents place, along with anything she might need if she needs to get out suddenly. Definately get cameras in the house while MIL visits. And yes, if MIL overstays by one minute, she needs to be out the door with her son and move in with her parents. Honestly, I think because of the difference between cultural expectations and what OP will accept, OP should insist MIL not stay with them at all, it's only going to be trouble. It would be better to get a short term rental for her nearby, and she can visit every day without moving in.

    Har
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    8 months ago

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    Guess u didn't catch the part where she says she's Pakistani also & knows her parents will b moving in eventually. Hypocrite. Y her mil is pissed rightfully

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    roddy
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    MIL expects not only to move in, but to take over and be the head of the house having everything her way. You have to shut that down.

    Dragons Exist
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    It always annoys me when people say things like "in [place] we do [thing]", as if telling someone how other people do a thing is supposed to change their mind

    CP
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Most cultures have nonsensical traditions that are just "this is the way we have always done it". I am not saying it is right but it is cross cultural and very human.

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    Betsy S
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She needs to make sure there's a nanny cam in the baby's room too. Who knows what that woman might do to the baby?

    Michael Largey
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP should say to her husband "I totally understand your wanting to host your mom while she's here. So be sure to send her your new address as soon as you find an apartment. Let me know it too so I know where to mail the restraining order."

    Janelle Collard
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    8 months ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I agree with all of the "Have go bags packed for you + your baby" cuz MIL was totally going to try to stay longer than a month. The update I read was from 2 days ago + it says MIL did not get the longer-staying Visa.

    Bryn
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This should hve been a conversation WAY before the visa ever came out.

    Nathan Lewis
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    you can't move to another country and demand the same treatment you receive in your home country. stay in pakistan if your heritage is that important.

    Key Lime
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Have them come to Canada in the middle of winter and see how they like it.

    Sparkle
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Alright am I the only one that has a 1 week rule with visiting ppl. My mom goes by staying longer than 1 week is over staying your welcome unless the person you are visiting invites you to stay longer and always help! You may be a guest but offer to help load or unload the dishwasher, help set the table ECT

    Upstaged75
    Community Member
    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    My parents have rules for how long my brother and his family are allowed to stay with them. They're not very good houseguests and they let their kids make huge messes without cleaning up. Poor mom is usually exhausted after a few days. She's made it clear that she's getting too old to be their cook and maid as well as being expected to entertain the kids. So she has a limit on how long they can stay in the house.

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    HardBoiledBlonde
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    All of this should have been discussed prior to getting married/ partnering and having a child.

    Har
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    8 months ago

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    She's says she's Pakistani also & knows her parents will b coming eventually. HYPOCRITE

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    Donna Peluda
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This reminds me of what happened to a guy a knew. He, Spanish married a Moroccan girl..We used to have friends in common. She was never very religious, never prayed ate Jamon, etc etc. The moment they had a child, baby girl she flipped. Family started coming over and she, started wearing a vail, going to the mosque and follow strict islamic codes. At first the guy thought it was a fase and once all the family went home she would snap out if it. She had Spanish nationality and got her mother over permanently to raise the girl in their fath. Eventually he moved out and pays child support and gets to see his daughter twice a month.

    Katie Manning
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP is absolutely insane for allowing this visit at all. At best, it's going to be 31 days of hell. At worst, and most likely, MIL is going arrive and NEVER leave. She literally told OP her intention was to move in permanently. At that point the invitation should have been revoked. Girl, how red do those flags need to be?

    Kate Johnson
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    She should leave this guy. He's gone native.

    Har
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    8 months ago

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    Thy come from the same place. She says she knows her parents r coming to stay eventually. HYPOCRITE

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    Sue Ellen Bowen
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'd be crawling the walls after a week of houseguests. I'd never survive a month.

    Kristina Atwood
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Why would he be so dramatic as to sleep on the couch? I thought there was a guest room. Pretend suffering is gaslighting and serious manipulation. If she's winding up her practice and has a husband, they need their own place. Your MIL seems to want to be matriarch of YOUR home. No, that's you. Please don't give in.

    Adnew
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    8 months ago

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    JuniorCJ82
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Run, run far. Divorce and sue for fraud.

    FranSinclair
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow theres definitely some resentment and lack of open communication in the marriage. Im with OP. Theres nothing worse than beinf uncomfortable in your home especially sharing it with someone with different views that yourself. Maybe im giving credit where its not due but what i thought i may have heard from hubby was his way of saying "i feel like an outsider. Im beinf taken over by your family while greatly missing mine. I feel alone and i want my mom." I wouldnt want my husband to feel like that and definitely feel that and think a compromise needs made. Moms a dr. Cant she afford a 1 person appt near by? Love knows no bounds or boarders but people need to be more aware of dual citizenship. My boss ( an American) got *trapped* in the County of Georgia during a war bc she had taken her newborn to visit his fathers family righr before it got bad. She could leave but she couldn't take her baby so they had to stay awhile and fight to leave. Crazy

    Nina
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    OP shouldve crushed this s**t immediately. She's going to be bulldozed anyway now. If she has any spine at all, be as assertive and ruling as possible when mil comes. OP needs to really show that she's the boss or her whole life is f****d.

    Tonyah Mcanelly
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This is a tough one because I definitely see both sides . as a grand parent I live clear across the country from them and because flights are incredibly expensive. I think grand parents have some rights but at the same time you have to be respectful of your childrens boundaries. If your child or their spouse is having anxiety about this its our responsibility to not add to the anxiety . Right after my first grand child was born I stayed at my brothers for a month and visited the kids a few times a wee. This gave them space to acclimate to their new family and I still got to see the little one quite often. A short visit works well and is probably best especially if you really dont know your guest very well .

    Katchen
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    One of my parents is an immigrant and my grandma used to stay with us for the longest (6 months) that was allowable by immigration rules at that time. Those were looooong 6 month stretches.

    Dee Tag
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    8 months ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    This story is sad. It takes a village to raise a child. She already made up her mind that she wasn't going to enjoy the experience without even trying it. The more love a child grows up with, the better their development, confidence and overall mental health will be. Anyway, Canadian winters ain't no joke. 3 months and MIL will be dying to go back.

    Har
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    8 months ago

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