MIL Expects To Stay With Son For 2 Years Instead Of A Month, Gets A Reality Check
Even if you like your in-laws, there’s a certain limit you might not want to exceed when it comes to spending time together. Visiting them for a weekend? Great! Going on a weeklong vacation? Why not? Living together for the foreseeable future? No, thank you.
When this redditor was talking to her husband about hosting his mom in their home, she was excited to do it. But the excitement didn’t take long to fade, as instead of coming for a month, as the OP thought that she would, her MIL was considering staying more than half a year, which didn’t take long to turn into a family drama. Scroll down to find the full story below, where you will also find a couple of updates on how the situation unfolded.
This woman was surprised about her MIL needing a special visa for a short visit
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That was because her husband and his mom had a longer stay in mind
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For many people, relationships with their in-laws are worse than those with their parents
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Even though you can choose your partner, you can’t choose their family, which means that an instant loving relationship isn’t guaranteed. While that can change over time, the in-law relationships often remain a complex issue, which might call for being both somewhat flexible and understanding and able to set clear boundaries at the same time.
Studies on in-law relationships suggest that people tend to have more troubles with their in-laws than their own parents. One study found that in the US, men and women both reported more conflict with mothers-in-law than with their mothers, while moms reported more conflict with their daughters-in-law than with their daughters.
Psychologist, writer, and Fellow Emerita of Newnham College Cambridge, Terri Apter, points out that such relationships have a “special potential for conflict.” Whether they involve a parent-in-law, child-in-law, or sibling-in-law, arguments can be difficult, if not impossible, to escape. However, according to the expert, “The most heated and persistent problems arise between two women—the wife and the husband’s mother.”
Apter notes that while 15% of mother-in-law and son-in-law relationships experience some tension, as much as 60% of mother-in-law and daughter-in-law relationships are described by negative terminology, such as “strained,” “uncomfortable,” “infuriating,” “depressing,” “draining,”and “simply awful.”
It’s not uncommon for a man’s wife and his mother to have a strained relationship
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According to Apter, the problem with the relationship between the two important women in a man’s life—his wife and his mother—arises from their similar positions, as they are both the primary women in their primary family.
“As each tries to establish or protect her status, each feels threatened by the other,” the expert wrote. “‘What will I have to relinquish if I respect your position in the family?’ and ‘Will I retain my importance if I acknowledge yours?’ signal a vulnerability that can lead to competition over emotive issues about who has more power and more influence in the domestic sphere.”
While protecting a certain status or controlling the sense of competition is easier to do when the women—or any in-laws, for that matter—are apart, living under one roof for a prolonged period of time can be difficult. According to Marriage.com, living with the in-laws might cause troubles related to decision-making or interference in the couple’s life. The in-laws might have opinions or advice they want to share, which can be a cause for conflict if the couple wants to live their lives how they see fit. There can also be contradicting traditions, which can create tension when under the same roof.
According to the aforementioned source, it’s crucial for couples to communicate openly about their expectations and compromise in order to find a solution that works for everyone. Open communication was the route that the OP took when talking to her husband about his mother’s visit. While it wasn’t easy, the woman “held her ground,” and while the entire situation might have negatively affected her relationship with the in-laws—both her mother and sister-in-law—the couple and the visitor eventually did manage to find a compromise. The OP opened up about how that went in the two updates she shared after the initial post.
The wife provided more details in the comments
Most netizens didn’t think the wife was being a jerk to her husband or his mother
Soon after, the woman uploaded an update, letting the netizens know how things were going
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Fellow netizens shared their thoughts in the comments
The woman shared a second update after having talked to her mother-in-law
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OP has written two more updates on this one, the teal deer of which is: MIL's visa application was rejected & she's trying to guilt OP into moving to move closer. OP says not gonna happen, and is relieved that MIL isn't coming.
Nope. She made a new post 5 days ago. MIL is coming and is even more pissed now. Also, they may have been plotting to lure OP over to Pakistan and keep her there,.apparently OP.had no clue she and the baby was considered Pakistan citizens (dual). She is now afraid to go to BILs wedding with the baby and plans to leave him at home or stay at home with him Check OP profile.
Load More Replies...My alarms started going off big-time when I read about the difference between the (nonexistant) two-year visa and the five year one. Her husband is gaslighting her.
Yeah at this point OP should probably very quietly look into divorce with 100% child care, and tell her lawyer that she's worried her husband and MIL will kidnap the baby and fly him to Pakistan. Because at this point I wouldn't put it the MIL. Or at the very least keep MIL in an hotel and have her in the house as little as possible. OP is lucky if this is just an awful month and not worse
Load More Replies...Last I looked (and I used to work for IRCC), Canada has the six months-less-a-day standard visitors' visa and the recently expanded to five years Parents and Grandparents Supervisa (basically, a stealth family reunification). Either way, the ***sponsor*** needs to purchase $100k coverage ***private health insurance*** for the duration -- the person sponsored is ***not eligible*** for Canadian provincial health insurance. THAT appears not to have been discussed once with OP in all of this.
$100k? May I take a moment to say YIKES! That's a lot to not tell OP.
Load More Replies...I'm lucky enough to have an amazing MIL and a great relationship with her but I wouldn't have her visit overnight for a week, never mind a month. Anything over 7 days should mean an automatic move to a hotel. I really hope OP listens to the advice on setting boundaries and having a way to get out because she's going to need it.
My ex and I had her single, pensioner MIL live with us and fully intended her to live with us till her innings ran out. It lasted five months as she was always complaining, was bored, afraid to join anything, and constantly compared our household to ex’s siblings. She finally said she wouldn’t live with us and we found her an apartment close to her son and paid for it. A week before the move she begged to stay with us. I still believe inter generational families can be blessings, but everyone has to want it.
Load More Replies...This is exactly why I hate all religion, every single person I've met that's religious has some sort of entitlement over other people's lives and Life experiences.
I'm an atheist in a church choir and I know many religious people who will just let everyone be.
Load More Replies...I think this sounds like a situation where OP needs to look into whether it's possible to surrender the Pakistani citizenship for herself and her baby, and not ever allow herself or the baby to visit Pakistan. I would also be keeping all the baby's documents, especially passports and birthcertificate at her parents place, along with anything she might need if she needs to get out suddenly. Definately get cameras in the house while MIL visits. And yes, if MIL overstays by one minute, she needs to be out the door with her son and move in with her parents. Honestly, I think because of the difference between cultural expectations and what OP will accept, OP should insist MIL not stay with them at all, it's only going to be trouble. It would be better to get a short term rental for her nearby, and she can visit every day without moving in.
It always annoys me when people say things like "in [place] we do [thing]", as if telling someone how other people do a thing is supposed to change their mind
Most cultures have nonsensical traditions that are just "this is the way we have always done it". I am not saying it is right but it is cross cultural and very human.
Load More Replies...OP should say to her husband "I totally understand your wanting to host your mom while she's here. So be sure to send her your new address as soon as you find an apartment. Let me know it too so I know where to mail the restraining order."
I agree with all of the "Have go bags packed for you + your baby" cuz MIL was totally going to try to stay longer than a month. The update I read was from 2 days ago + it says MIL did not get the longer-staying Visa.
you can't move to another country and demand the same treatment you receive in your home country. stay in pakistan if your heritage is that important.
Alright am I the only one that has a 1 week rule with visiting ppl. My mom goes by staying longer than 1 week is over staying your welcome unless the person you are visiting invites you to stay longer and always help! You may be a guest but offer to help load or unload the dishwasher, help set the table ECT
My parents have rules for how long my brother and his family are allowed to stay with them. They're not very good houseguests and they let their kids make huge messes without cleaning up. Poor mom is usually exhausted after a few days. She's made it clear that she's getting too old to be their cook and maid as well as being expected to entertain the kids. So she has a limit on how long they can stay in the house.
Load More Replies...All of this should have been discussed prior to getting married/ partnering and having a child.
This reminds me of what happened to a guy a knew. He, Spanish married a Moroccan girl..We used to have friends in common. She was never very religious, never prayed ate Jamon, etc etc. The moment they had a child, baby girl she flipped. Family started coming over and she, started wearing a vail, going to the mosque and follow strict islamic codes. At first the guy thought it was a fase and once all the family went home she would snap out if it. She had Spanish nationality and got her mother over permanently to raise the girl in their fath. Eventually he moved out and pays child support and gets to see his daughter twice a month.
OP is absolutely insane for allowing this visit at all. At best, it's going to be 31 days of hell. At worst, and most likely, MIL is going arrive and NEVER leave. She literally told OP her intention was to move in permanently. At that point the invitation should have been revoked. Girl, how red do those flags need to be?
I'd be crawling the walls after a week of houseguests. I'd never survive a month.
Why would he be so dramatic as to sleep on the couch? I thought there was a guest room. Pretend suffering is gaslighting and serious manipulation. If she's winding up her practice and has a husband, they need their own place. Your MIL seems to want to be matriarch of YOUR home. No, that's you. Please don't give in.
Wow theres definitely some resentment and lack of open communication in the marriage. Im with OP. Theres nothing worse than beinf uncomfortable in your home especially sharing it with someone with different views that yourself. Maybe im giving credit where its not due but what i thought i may have heard from hubby was his way of saying "i feel like an outsider. Im beinf taken over by your family while greatly missing mine. I feel alone and i want my mom." I wouldnt want my husband to feel like that and definitely feel that and think a compromise needs made. Moms a dr. Cant she afford a 1 person appt near by? Love knows no bounds or boarders but people need to be more aware of dual citizenship. My boss ( an American) got *trapped* in the County of Georgia during a war bc she had taken her newborn to visit his fathers family righr before it got bad. She could leave but she couldn't take her baby so they had to stay awhile and fight to leave. Crazy
This is a tough one because I definitely see both sides . as a grand parent I live clear across the country from them and because flights are incredibly expensive. I think grand parents have some rights but at the same time you have to be respectful of your childrens boundaries. If your child or their spouse is having anxiety about this its our responsibility to not add to the anxiety . Right after my first grand child was born I stayed at my brothers for a month and visited the kids a few times a wee. This gave them space to acclimate to their new family and I still got to see the little one quite often. A short visit works well and is probably best especially if you really dont know your guest very well .
This story is sad. It takes a village to raise a child. She already made up her mind that she wasn't going to enjoy the experience without even trying it. The more love a child grows up with, the better their development, confidence and overall mental health will be. Anyway, Canadian winters ain't no joke. 3 months and MIL will be dying to go back.
OP has written two more updates on this one, the teal deer of which is: MIL's visa application was rejected & she's trying to guilt OP into moving to move closer. OP says not gonna happen, and is relieved that MIL isn't coming.
Nope. She made a new post 5 days ago. MIL is coming and is even more pissed now. Also, they may have been plotting to lure OP over to Pakistan and keep her there,.apparently OP.had no clue she and the baby was considered Pakistan citizens (dual). She is now afraid to go to BILs wedding with the baby and plans to leave him at home or stay at home with him Check OP profile.
Load More Replies...My alarms started going off big-time when I read about the difference between the (nonexistant) two-year visa and the five year one. Her husband is gaslighting her.
Yeah at this point OP should probably very quietly look into divorce with 100% child care, and tell her lawyer that she's worried her husband and MIL will kidnap the baby and fly him to Pakistan. Because at this point I wouldn't put it the MIL. Or at the very least keep MIL in an hotel and have her in the house as little as possible. OP is lucky if this is just an awful month and not worse
Load More Replies...Last I looked (and I used to work for IRCC), Canada has the six months-less-a-day standard visitors' visa and the recently expanded to five years Parents and Grandparents Supervisa (basically, a stealth family reunification). Either way, the ***sponsor*** needs to purchase $100k coverage ***private health insurance*** for the duration -- the person sponsored is ***not eligible*** for Canadian provincial health insurance. THAT appears not to have been discussed once with OP in all of this.
$100k? May I take a moment to say YIKES! That's a lot to not tell OP.
Load More Replies...I'm lucky enough to have an amazing MIL and a great relationship with her but I wouldn't have her visit overnight for a week, never mind a month. Anything over 7 days should mean an automatic move to a hotel. I really hope OP listens to the advice on setting boundaries and having a way to get out because she's going to need it.
My ex and I had her single, pensioner MIL live with us and fully intended her to live with us till her innings ran out. It lasted five months as she was always complaining, was bored, afraid to join anything, and constantly compared our household to ex’s siblings. She finally said she wouldn’t live with us and we found her an apartment close to her son and paid for it. A week before the move she begged to stay with us. I still believe inter generational families can be blessings, but everyone has to want it.
Load More Replies...This is exactly why I hate all religion, every single person I've met that's religious has some sort of entitlement over other people's lives and Life experiences.
I'm an atheist in a church choir and I know many religious people who will just let everyone be.
Load More Replies...I think this sounds like a situation where OP needs to look into whether it's possible to surrender the Pakistani citizenship for herself and her baby, and not ever allow herself or the baby to visit Pakistan. I would also be keeping all the baby's documents, especially passports and birthcertificate at her parents place, along with anything she might need if she needs to get out suddenly. Definately get cameras in the house while MIL visits. And yes, if MIL overstays by one minute, she needs to be out the door with her son and move in with her parents. Honestly, I think because of the difference between cultural expectations and what OP will accept, OP should insist MIL not stay with them at all, it's only going to be trouble. It would be better to get a short term rental for her nearby, and she can visit every day without moving in.
It always annoys me when people say things like "in [place] we do [thing]", as if telling someone how other people do a thing is supposed to change their mind
Most cultures have nonsensical traditions that are just "this is the way we have always done it". I am not saying it is right but it is cross cultural and very human.
Load More Replies...OP should say to her husband "I totally understand your wanting to host your mom while she's here. So be sure to send her your new address as soon as you find an apartment. Let me know it too so I know where to mail the restraining order."
I agree with all of the "Have go bags packed for you + your baby" cuz MIL was totally going to try to stay longer than a month. The update I read was from 2 days ago + it says MIL did not get the longer-staying Visa.
you can't move to another country and demand the same treatment you receive in your home country. stay in pakistan if your heritage is that important.
Alright am I the only one that has a 1 week rule with visiting ppl. My mom goes by staying longer than 1 week is over staying your welcome unless the person you are visiting invites you to stay longer and always help! You may be a guest but offer to help load or unload the dishwasher, help set the table ECT
My parents have rules for how long my brother and his family are allowed to stay with them. They're not very good houseguests and they let their kids make huge messes without cleaning up. Poor mom is usually exhausted after a few days. She's made it clear that she's getting too old to be their cook and maid as well as being expected to entertain the kids. So she has a limit on how long they can stay in the house.
Load More Replies...All of this should have been discussed prior to getting married/ partnering and having a child.
This reminds me of what happened to a guy a knew. He, Spanish married a Moroccan girl..We used to have friends in common. She was never very religious, never prayed ate Jamon, etc etc. The moment they had a child, baby girl she flipped. Family started coming over and she, started wearing a vail, going to the mosque and follow strict islamic codes. At first the guy thought it was a fase and once all the family went home she would snap out if it. She had Spanish nationality and got her mother over permanently to raise the girl in their fath. Eventually he moved out and pays child support and gets to see his daughter twice a month.
OP is absolutely insane for allowing this visit at all. At best, it's going to be 31 days of hell. At worst, and most likely, MIL is going arrive and NEVER leave. She literally told OP her intention was to move in permanently. At that point the invitation should have been revoked. Girl, how red do those flags need to be?
I'd be crawling the walls after a week of houseguests. I'd never survive a month.
Why would he be so dramatic as to sleep on the couch? I thought there was a guest room. Pretend suffering is gaslighting and serious manipulation. If she's winding up her practice and has a husband, they need their own place. Your MIL seems to want to be matriarch of YOUR home. No, that's you. Please don't give in.
Wow theres definitely some resentment and lack of open communication in the marriage. Im with OP. Theres nothing worse than beinf uncomfortable in your home especially sharing it with someone with different views that yourself. Maybe im giving credit where its not due but what i thought i may have heard from hubby was his way of saying "i feel like an outsider. Im beinf taken over by your family while greatly missing mine. I feel alone and i want my mom." I wouldnt want my husband to feel like that and definitely feel that and think a compromise needs made. Moms a dr. Cant she afford a 1 person appt near by? Love knows no bounds or boarders but people need to be more aware of dual citizenship. My boss ( an American) got *trapped* in the County of Georgia during a war bc she had taken her newborn to visit his fathers family righr before it got bad. She could leave but she couldn't take her baby so they had to stay awhile and fight to leave. Crazy
This is a tough one because I definitely see both sides . as a grand parent I live clear across the country from them and because flights are incredibly expensive. I think grand parents have some rights but at the same time you have to be respectful of your childrens boundaries. If your child or their spouse is having anxiety about this its our responsibility to not add to the anxiety . Right after my first grand child was born I stayed at my brothers for a month and visited the kids a few times a wee. This gave them space to acclimate to their new family and I still got to see the little one quite often. A short visit works well and is probably best especially if you really dont know your guest very well .
This story is sad. It takes a village to raise a child. She already made up her mind that she wasn't going to enjoy the experience without even trying it. The more love a child grows up with, the better their development, confidence and overall mental health will be. Anyway, Canadian winters ain't no joke. 3 months and MIL will be dying to go back.


















































































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