J.K. Rowling Brutally Mocked On SNL Over Trans Rights Following Emma Watson Drama

UK Grandad? Oh wow... Typical Bouncer there. Darling I've worked with a few... Btw? Stalking me much? Twice in a week? Darling, please... I'll reply as much as I like... As YOU do...

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Thought about it... Still agree with myself so shut up Forest Gumpy... Sorry... Hobbs

Spitting Image, and I claim my prize. EDIT: Amazing! The comment that this is replying to has been deleted, but I have been downvoted *after* that deletion. So whoever has downvoted this has done so without knowing what or who it refers to. They are downvoting it without having the faintest idea why. At the risk of repeating myself: what the hell is wrong with you people?

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UKGrandad: as for the prize, I'm afraid this is all I can do: 👍 (I had a teacher from South Africa back then - apparently, one of his classes *did* give him the chorus of *that* song one fateful Monday morning. 🤣)

UKGrandad: there's a sad obsessive who's hell bent on preventing discussion here. They've made two(!) "Fake Forrest" accounts (and probably also other accounts used for downvoting and so on). They're trawling this comment thread, downvoting every post I make, reporting every post I make (enough reports and BP deletes the post), and also downvoting anyone who questions their view of trans rights ideology. Click on a user name to go to that user's account page. I'm here https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv/. There are now at least two Fake Forrest accounts: https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_2/ and https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_1/. See what's going on with them... Very sad.

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I am the a*****e who repeatedly spams this thread with the same comments. You would think I'd have learnt by now but no, I am the a*****e making the situation worse by spamming the same comments on other threads, spreading my assholeness.

Typical bouncer? Yes, stopping fights and assaults from happening is typical of the job. What's your point? And 'stalking'? We're on the same website, commenting on the same stories. Seeing somebody telling the same story a few days apart is not stalking, it's paying attention to what people say.

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@Grandad Oh god, don't get me started on that. Luckily I haven't seen my stalker around lately, but Forrest (well, the real one) has experienced his intelligence -- or lack thereof -- and his cries of "you're stalking me which is harassment and I'll report yooooou!!" for commenting on the same topic.

Emilu, there certainly are some interesting characters around here who have no idea how to deal with having their assumptions tested and their specious arguments picked apart with facts and logic. The way I see it is that if their default response to criticism of their claims is to attack and hurl personal insults rather than address the criticism, it's because they know that their claims are unsupported by facts. A good example is the first reply to my comment directly below this one. There's no attempt to refute the points I made, just an angry rant and a demand to mind my own business.

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@Grandad I completely agree. If you disagree or criticise, at least have something to back you up and discuss why you don't agree rather than resorting to name-calling or down-voting. It's such a basic thing that if you debate something, you actually *have* an argument about which to debate -- I'm pretty sure you're taught it in school? -- yet so many people don't. It's pretty pathetic, really.

Can you imagine a lawyer in court using the same methods on a witness? "Dr. Smith, you say that the DNA sample matches the defendant's DNA, but I put it to you that you are a poopy-head and you drive a terrible car!"

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@Grandad Oh man, I'd love to use that when I'm in court next. 🤣

I dare you 😂

Emilu: oh yes, him... 🙄

About Fake Forrest: there are now THREE fake Forrest Hobbs accounts trolling this thread. You can spot the fake account comments because they mostly begin with "I am the a*****e who". To be sure, click on a comment's user name and you'll be taken to the account profile page where you can see what comments and upvotes that account has made.

The three fake accounts are these: https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_1/ and https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_2/ and https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_1_1/. It seems that downvoting and reporting (click on the three vertical dots to the right of the user name) does do something to the strange person behind the - umm - odd behaviour. They do at least keep creating new accounts. 😬🤷

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I am the a*****e who vilifies Emma Watson's words whilst defending Rowling's more provocative words because I simp for Rowling and want her to read my fan fiction.

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The crazy Forrest Hobbs account is here: https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_1/ and I'm here: https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv/

Now there are two Fake Forrest accounts harassing me: https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_1/and https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_2/ Click on a username to go to that user's profile page where you can see ali their posts and so on. Report posts for harassment by clicking on the line of three vertical dots next to a username - enough reports, and BP deletes the post. It's why BP has deleted so many of my posts here.

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I am the a*****e who repeatedly spams this thread with the same comments. You would think I'd have learnt by now but no, I am the a*****e making the situation worse by spamming the same comments on other threads, spreading my assholeness.

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I am the a*****e who repeatedly spams this thread with the same comments. You would think I'd have learnt by now but no, I am the a*****e making the situation worse by spamming the same comments on other threads, spreading my assholeness.

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I let a woman's words speak for themselves - but the woman is a hate-figure for the trans rights extremists. So as usual in these situations, the woman's words are downvoted to hide them from view. What do you call a group of people who refuse to engage in discussion but automatically silence a woman whom they disagree with? I call them a bunch of bullying, bigoted misogynists. And that, I'm afraid, is the view I have formed of trans rights extremists as a result of their consistently misogynist bullying on BP and everywhere I've investigated on-line. They do it in real life, too - hounding women out of their jobs with threats and harassment all for the "crime" of saying that trans women aren't identical to cis women. Every downvote this post gets will just be one more item of proof that I'm right about you lot.

I am the a*****e who downvotes myself and creates a "fake" Forrest Hobbs account so I can play victim to gain sympathy.

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I am the a*****e who does not even bring up the fact that my feet smell of popcorn. I talk about "truth" but I cannot admit my feet smell of popcorn. Even in my posts addressed to "Fake Hobbs" I will bring up anything and everything except the fact my feet smell of popcorn.

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I am the a*****e who will not admit my feet smell of popcorn. How can I claim to speak the truth and ask genuine questions when I cannot even admit the fact my feet smell of popcorn?

The picture above is Professor Kathleen Stock with the security guard she had to hire to protect herself from trans rights activists. The text post I wrote explaining how Professor Stock was hounded from her job by trans rights activists has been deleted by BP - probably because Fake Forrest reported it multiple times to BP for some imagined offence. As I've pointed out, one problem with trans rights extremists is that they harass and bully anyone who disagrees with them - they hounded Professor Stock from her university job. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9vr4vjzgqo. Here? My comments get downvoted and reported for offense so that they are hidden and or deleted. I've discovered this is typical behaviour for many trans rights activists: they're all about attacking and suppressing anyone who disagrees with them. It's why one of them has made two (!) BP accounts with the same username as me. See all those posts beginning "I am the a*****e"? - not me, not from this account.

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Jac Carr, you seem to be saying that people can only get involved in things that personally affect them. I'm white: do I not get to call out racism when I encounter it? I'm straight: am I not allowed to speak against homophobia? I'm British: do I stop donating to charities helping with famine relief overseas? I'm an adult: are children's rights no longer within my allowable set of things to care about? I'm a dog owner: do I look the other way if a cat is being mistreated? Oh, and just to clarify, as 'trans women' are by definition male I am telling men to leave women's rights alone. EDIT: that's the way - can't counter my arguments so start the ball rolling to get my comment hidden. Such cowardly behaviour.

I absolutely did not try to get your comment hidden; how would I be replying if I did? 1 in 6 women are assaulted by their male partners - deal with that and women will decide who can use their bathrooms. All you're doing is trying to highjack & control a woman's issue but as a white straight man, no-one is surprised

Again, it is not just about bathrooms. That is just a small part of a much bigger picture, but it's the part that the TRAs always use: 'we just want to pee' sounds so reasonable - but it's a lie. If that were all they wanted there are bathrooms available for people of their séx to use, so why intrude into the women's facilities? They don't feel safe in the men's room? That's something to work out with other men rather than making women feel unsafe by finding men in what are women's facilities - regardless of how those men identify, because identifying as women does not make them any less of a potential danger than any other man.

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J K Rowling is famously supportive of abúsed women's refuges.

It doesn't matter what particular aspect is prioritised when every time the subject arises those on the trans side ignore everything that's said and just repeat the 'we just want to pee', line, because that sounds such a reasonable request that it does make the supporters of women's rights sound petty. What the trans side never explain is why their need to pee means they need to access women's shelters, hospital facilities, groups, organisations, sports and séx-lives, among the thousands of things that the Equalities Act says women are allowed to reserve for themselves. EDIT: downvoting instead of addressing the valid points I made? Cowards!

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Maybe if you stopped replying to yourself? That might help... "Just Saying" 👍

SkippityBoppityBoo: there are two (no, three - see below) Forrest Hobbs accounts. A crazy obsessive has created a BP account with the same user name as me - you can find out what posts they make with that account if you look at their profile page. If you click on the username for any comment, it'll take you that user's profile page. I'm here https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv. What I think of as "Fake Forrest" is here: https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_1/.

SkippityBoppityBoo: it is possible to report BP posts for (e.g.) "harassment" by clicking on the vertical line of three dots next to a username. Sometimes, BP will take action.

SkippityBoppityBoo: P.S. Now there are two Fake Forrest accounts spamming this thread: https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_1/and https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_2/ Click on a username to go to that user's profile page where you can see all their posts and so on. Report posts for harassment by clicking on the line of three vertical dots next to a username - enough reports, and BP deletes the post. It's why BP has deleted so many of my posts here.

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I AM a cis woman. And JK Rowling is a horrible creature who doesn't speak for me. Nor for any of my friends - we talk about these matters, you know. Trans people and their rights are not seen as a danger by us, and many cis women think the same. Oh, but especially transphobic men clearly think they know better than us.

Earonn: what is it about J K Rowling which makes you think she is a "horrible creature"? I am asking because I want to learn why so many people hate her - I don't understand. (just so everyone understands my position: I'm not anyone-phobic. I'm 100% in favour of everyone getting to live freely and without fear.)

I am the a*****e pretending not to understand why Rowling is so hated because I simp for Rowling and cannot do basic research into why people have problems with her bigotry.

Or maybe some men think it's important to support those women who do recognise that erosion of their hard-won rights is not a good thing for women.

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@Grandad I'll probably also get downvoted into oblivion here, but as a biological woman the idea of a stranger who is a biological man being in the same bathroom as me does bother me somewhat. I don't consider myself transphobic -- I am friends with some trans people, and I'm happy to use their pronouns etc -- and I understand logically that (genuine) trans women wouldn't do anything to what they'd see as a fellow woman, but given you can't argue about who identifies as what, my concern is some creep will come in "identifying" as a woman just so he can have a perv. If that makes me seem transphobic to some people then I apologise that you feel that way, but you're wrong. The only people to whom I'm phobic are morons and creeps. Edit: Grammar.

I am the a*****e who's feet smell of popcorn and cannot help but spam my ridiculous comments over and over. I am the a*****e who believes receiving a downvote means I am being silenced for defending a known transphobe who brought this on all by herself. I do not realise that Emma Watson is the reasonable grown adult in this back and forth.

Fake Forrest: you're an obsessive who has created a BP account using the same name as me just so you can harass and abúse me any time I post comments which don't align with your hateful agenda towards defenders of women's rights such as J K Rowling. Your obsessive hatemongering, your obsessive attempts to silence the voice of women victims of trans rights extremists, your defence of the abúse of women - all this is typical for trans rights extremists such as yourself. Do you not see how your behaviour is undermining trans rights? Do you not see how your behaviour is teaching reasonable people that trans rights extremists are a bunch of misogynist bullies who won't engage in debate with anyone who doesn't agree with them, but instead will just insult them, harass them, and silence them if possible?

I am the a*****e who creates a fake account of myself so I can claim to be targeted and claim it is the work of trans right extremists. I am the a*****e for making all this up so people feel sorry for me.

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Fake Forrest: what you are doing very effectively is proving that many trans rights activists are bullies - as you are - who want to silence the defenders of women's rights and also hide the abúse by of trans rights extremists of those same defenders. Your behaviour here - your obsessive posts responding to me - are undermining the case for trans rights.

I am the a*****e for talking to my other account, calling out "Fake Forrest" even though it is me, I am the a*****e for doing this then I can blame transgender extremists, even though this is not the reason I am being targeted.

I am the a*****e who talks about being downvoted for telling the "truth" despite my inability to research why Rowling's words and actions are so damaging and hurtful.

Fake Forrest:. "[...] transgender extremists, even though this is not the reason I am being targeted." - And yet, Fake Forrest, the only posts you make from your fake Forrest Hobbs account are posts which insult and harass me should I try to engage in reasoned debate about why trans gender activists hate Rowling. My BP account is here https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv. "Fake Forrest" is here: https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_1/

Now there are two Fake Forrest accounts harassing me: https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_1/and https://www.boredpanda.com/contributor/olrq422i50iv_2/ Click on a username to go to that user's profile page where you can see all their posts and so on. Report posts for harassment by clicking on the line of three vertical dots next to a username - enough reports, and BP deletes the post. It's why BP has deleted so many of my posts here.

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@Forrest I'm sorry you're going through this. I've been trying to downvote/report their posts for you. I will say, though, that the "feet smells like popcorn" did make me laugh, because that sounds like something I'd say in an 'argument' with family or friends. "Well... well....... your feet smell like popcorn, so nerr!!" Seriously, though, I'm so sorry you're going through dealing with these as‍sholes on what's meant to be a fun/chill website. Someone obviously has no life and is creepily invested in you.

Emilu: thanks for the sympathy *and* the actions. I'm pretty sure it's just one rather sad person. In the grand scheme of things, it's utterly unimportant - I mean, no-one's being hurt or anything. It's just - well, why can't people have a civilised chat without some nutter yelling crazy stuff? 🤷 🙄 (oh yes, and they're up to three "fake Forrest" accounts by now. Seriously, what? 🤣🤨)

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@Forrest You're welcome for the sympathy and the reports. I agree so much re. civilised chat, but some people here obviously haven't grown past five years old and their idea of an argument is "your feet smells like popcorn", soooooo...

Emilu: oh how I wish they *were* like a five year old - a five year old would have got bored with this ages ago and started doing something more constructive, like finger painting with Nutella on the kitchen floor. 😉🤣

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SkippityBoppityBoo: thanks for replying. I've followed suggested links, but so far I've seen no sign of any hatred from Rowling towards anyone (a few sharp remarks towards her critics doesn't strike me as any sort of hatemongering, but perhaps I'm wrong). Could you perhaps be a bit more specific? I really am genuinely seeking information to reduce my level of ignorance.

@Forrest Hobbs Quick question, what did you think of her twitter post where she quotes Ad0lf H!tler ? (source - https://x.com/jk_rowling/status/1966268674580631675) Screenshot...nsored.jpg

Ellinor she/they/elle; I haven't got an opinion because an important word has been blurred out in that screenshot, so I don't know what Rowling was saying. Could you please let me know what the censored word is? Thanks.

The hidden word is 'fascíst'.

UKGrandad: cheers.

Ellinor she/they/elle: apparently the hidden word is "fa‍scist". So, what she's doing is suggesting that many people who accuse others of being "fas‍cist" often behave in a fashion advised by Hit‍ler in his infamously nasty book. There's no reference to trans people, nor so I see any expression of hatred towards anyone. If I am mistaken, I would love you to explain.

Ellinor, are you really going to pretend to not understand the context of that tweet? She is responding to a barrage of ábuse and threats of violence by making the point that those who are doing so while calling her a fascíst are actually employing the tactics of the most infamous fascíst of them all. She then provides evidence for her claim by quoting Hítler advocating for the very same tactics that her detractors are using. She is saying 'you are calling me a fascíst while you are using methods straight out of the fascíst playbook, and to prove it here is a relevant quote from the fascíst playbook.' It is perfectly acceptable to quote Hítler when one is telling people that their methods are those that Hítler himself used. EDIT: and here we go again with the downvotes. Everything I wrote in this comment is correct and explains why Rowling quoted Hítler - to show a group of people lacking the self-awareness to realise it for themselves that they are employing tactics that he himself used against his enemies.They are accusing her of their own excesses. But not only have you used a screenshot of a single tweet to remove all context surrounding it, you are now trying to get this comment hidden to hide the additional context I supplied in the expectation that the screenshot itself will create a Rowling/Hítler connection in people's minds. It's a deliberately dishonest tactic of disinformation. Oh, and don't bother reporting this comment to have it removed. I've saved it and will only re-post it if necessary.

@UKGrandad. I don't know where you got the impression that I was reporting your comments or downvoting them but okay I guess...

Ellinor she/they/elle 1/2: I'm not at all sure UKGrandad was accusing you - or any other identifiable poster - of downvoting him. Just "someone", you know? 🤷 Anyway, thank you UKGrandad for supplying more of the context.

@Forrest Hobbs UK Grandad said in his comment talking about me : "But not only have you used a screenshot of a single tweet to remove all context surrounding it, you are now trying to get this comment hidden". That's an accusation made for me and which I am not guilty of.

Ellinor she/they/elle: I see your point, but the way I looked at it was this: you've only got one up/down vote and it takes 4 downvotes to hide a post. The way I read the phrase "you are now trying to get this comment hidden" was that UKGrandad was suggesting you were trying to present his views in such a way that he'd collect downvotes from at least four BP accounts. Okay, I'm not sure that's a lot better, but anyway. 😬 To quote Ringo Starr: peace and love, guys, peace and love.

Ellinor, if you didn't downvote my comment, and I have no reason to disbelieve you, then I apologise for the accusation.

Ellinor she/they/elle 2/2: in my attempts to find any hatemongering by J K Rowling, I did come across some really horrible transphobic stuff. All of it without exception was from what you might think of as "the usual suspects" - rabid right-wing men. I've searched a lot of stuff and found no trace of transphobic sentiment from what you might call "gender critical" women such as J K Rowling. And that's why I ask for information about such stuff - I can't find it, and so far no-one's been able to give me a link to any such stuff.

Ellinor she/they/elle P.S. I did come across this article - by a woman - in my search for transphobic comments. It's worth a read, I reckon. https://thecritic.co.uk/the-curse-of-terf/

A good article, Forrest. It shows very plainly what happens when women try to speak for themselves on the trans issue - or on any issue that is about women, as the mindless vandalism and threats from trans activists aimed at the women attending the feminism conference in Brighton today shows all too clearly. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czxwv9njvlgo.amp

UKGrandad: the thing is, "The Women Who Wouldn’t Wheesht" aren't going to wheesht in the face of anything. How this "Bash Back" crowd think they're doing anything useful by attacking a women's liberation conference is beyond me. Some relevant links: https://www.thetablereadmagazine.co.uk/voices-of-a-campaign-inside-the-women-who-wouldnt-wheesht/ and https://www.transbashback.com/manifesto.html and https://www.filia.org.uk/about-filia. My next post will have quotes from Bash Back and FiLiA.

"FiLiA’s mission is to contribute to the Women’s Liberation Movement by: *Building Sisterhood and Solidarity (locally, nationally, globally) *Amplifying the Voices of Women (particularly those less often heard or purposefully silenced) *Defending Women’s Human Rights" while Bash Back says "BASH BACK is a trans-led direct action project focused on total transgender liberation, showing that we cannot be silenced, we cannot be beaten down and we are not afraid to stand our ground. Organisations that promote transphobic rhetoric — from banning hormones and puberty blockers, to confining us to or defining us out of categories of woman and man, to promoting conversion therapy and facilitating hideous harassment campaigns — should come to expect us." and "All of our targets have blood on their hands." So apparently FiLiA is "transphobic" with "blood on its hands". 🤷

"..facilitating hideous harassment campaigns.." and this is from the group that smashed the glass frontage of the conference centre, threw paint all over the place and are stood outside screaming a***e at the women going in and setting off sirens, beating drums and making as much noise as possible in an attempt to drown out the speakers inside. As I said to Ellinor in this thread, the TRAs are very good at accusing others of their own worse excesses and seem to be completely lacking in self-awareness because they don't seem to understand that simple truth. In all respects that matter, groups like BashBack (a misnomer, as nobody has 'bashed' them, only criticised - 'BashWomen' is more accurate) act like TRA terror groups. A more fitting name would be 'El Jibitiqu, perhaps? It does have a certain terroríst organisation ring to it.

UKGrandad: one thing I want to understand is why trans rights extremists take the view that perfectly civilised feminist organizations do things like "facilitating hideous harassment campaigns". 🤷 (some of the anti-women trans rights rhetoric I've read on-line is very, very similar to the horrible anti-trans stuff I've read - it's very peculiar)

It's because they have to play the victim role to justify their extreme actions, and because they know that their 'allies' will unthinkingly accept their lies and join in with their bullying, harassment, vandalism and violence. How much support do you they'd have got if they were honest about what invokes their rage? What they term as 'hideous harassment campaigns' is no more than being told 'no' by women; being told that men cannot become women. It was only a couple of months ago that they were protesting against classes being run to help and advise new mothers on breastfeeding. Why were they protesting? Because the classes weren't inclusive of trans women! They are currently angry with the NHS because doctors won't prescribe HRT to trans women who claim to be menopausal: it's not validating and therefore transphobic to not prescribe medications to people who have no need of them. Anything and everything that does not centre transgender is classed as part of a sustained campaign of hate and harassment against them and in their minds justifies their terror tactics.