After Alabama Banned Abortions, This Lawmaker Introduced A Bill That Would Make Vasectomies Mandatory
It’s never an easy conversation when it comes to topics such as sexuality, political views, or the eternal pro-life versus pro-choice debate. Therefore, it’s not even slightly surprising that many people were left furious after the Republicans of Alabama passed the Alabama Human Life Protection Act last year that makes abortion at any stage of pregnancy a felony that’s punishable by up to 99 years in prison. But Rep. Rolanda Hollis thought she could turn the tables and show how it feels to have your reproductive rights restricted by introducing a bill that would require men to be vasectomized after turning 50 or after having their third child (whichever comes first).
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Reacting to Alabama’s abortion restriction laws, Rep. Rolanda Hollis proposed a bill last week that would require men to have vasectomies after turning 50 or having their 3rd child
The Alabama Human Life Protection Act states that the only exceptions when abortion can be performed are when there is a serious threat to the health of the expecting mother or when the fetus has serious health problems and the child would die shortly after birth. However, there aren’t any exceptions for rape and incest which infuriated a lot of women in the state including Rep. Rolanda Hollis who had the brilliant idea of introducing a symbolic bill that would allow men to put themselves into women’s shoes and actually feel what it’s like to have others governing your body.
It was done as an attempt to show how outrageous it is to have laws controlling someone’s body and their reproductive health
A federal judge blocked the law in October saying that it violates the Constitution. US district judge Myron Thompson explained that “Alabama’s abortion ban contravenes clear Supreme Case Court precedent. It violates the right of an individual to privacy, to make choices central to personal dignity and autonomy. It diminishes the capacity of women to act in society and to make reproductive decisions. It defies the United States Constitution.” But since Rolanda Hollis saw that there are no laws being made to restrict male reproduction, she made a point by issuing House Bill 238 that would require men to undergo mandatory vasectomies at their own cost “within one month of his 50th birthday or the birth of his third biological child, whichever comes first.”
She wanted to underline that this bill is symbolic and is introduced to highlight and remind everyone of the inextricable role men play in producing unwanted pregnancies
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Even though Hollis herself thinks it’s outrageous to have laws that restrict people’s reproductive choices, her point is to “neutralize last year’s abortion ban bill, and sends the message that men should not be legislating what women do with their bodies” is still being overlooked and is given a hard time online. Hollis responded to the criticism saying: “Many have seen HB238 as an outrageous overstep; yet, year after year, the majority party continues to introduce new legislation that tries to dictate a woman’s body and her reproductive rights. We should view this as the same outrageous overstep in authority. Just as I would turn to my doctor over my state legislator to make recommendations when deciding whether or not to have a surgery, or whether or not to take a certain type of medicine, it is my doctor with whom I — or any of my loved ones — should consult when it comes to making the incredibly difficult decisions related to my personal reproductive rights.”
Even though there were people who started calling her a communist, many women appreciated her symbolic gesture
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Share on FacebookLOL the conservatives are getting so triggered 🤣🤣🤣
A man is fertile 365 days of the year, while a woman is fertile approximately 35 days of the year, yet, it is interesting that while contraception should be a dual responsibility, the focus and blame is usually on the woman and what she has done "wrong".
Good idea. Who the hell do people think they are deciding on what's best for a total stranger? I saw a news article about a 16 year old girl who was raped and got pregnant. There were complications that meant the child would not live long after birth but the physical trauma from giving birth would kill her. Because of stupid laws made by idiots who know nothing about a persons civil rights, she was forced to give birth. She died, unnecessarily. The baby suffered for 30 minutes before dying and the rapist was never caught. Do you really want to decide what's best? Can you handle that sort of guilt. If it's not your body, leave it alone! Maybe this will make the men in charge pay attention to what is being said.
cybermerlin, do you want to know what these righteous hypocrites think? They say that this is what God wants; according to them God also does not cares about born life, because they are not willing have their taxes increased, so the government could feed, clothe, and educate all those unwanted children. This makes me furious.
Load More Replies...Why age 50? If it's illegal for women at any age.. men should have to get them asap. it's a great idea but a younger age would be better.
Exactly! And I love the one comment/suggestion about also applying the law to deadbeat dads. Owe $20K or more to your child's mom? You gotta get neutered!
Load More Replies...As a man, I always say: if men would be able to get pregnant, abortion would be the 1st and most fundamental among the human rights.
As Gloria Steinem put it, if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.
Load More Replies...Sometimes you have to illustrate the absurd with the absurd to make a point
It was made logistically impossible on purpose!!!
Load More Replies...While vasectomies are not guarantees of no pregnancy, I think if they are going to refuse a woman's right to choose, then they should require men to do the deed in getting themselves fixed. The door swings both ways when it comes to who is responsible for an unwanted pregnancy. But it's often the mothers who are left to deal with it while the men run off to create more kids with other women. Stop punishing women for the indiscretions of men. There are plenty of things they can do to prevent these pregnancies. And to the above post by Rep Hollis..the phrase is "It takes two to tango" not "tangle."
Hugo Raible, but refusing to support that human being is harming it or even killing it.
Load More Replies...This should be world wide for men. My ex husband has 14 kids (3 to me) and does he help support them. No. He pays no child support for any of them. Why do men make out it is the women who are always in the wrong and have babies when in fact it's men like my ex who go around impregnating women not giving a s**t after they are born and moving on to the next one, always saying I'm a great father I have all these kids. This needs to happen.
I mean, since vasectomies are reversible, the law should state that men must also have one before marrying. So once they marry, or perhaps once they obtain explicit consent from the woman they plan to impregnate, only then are they permitted to have their vasectomy reversed, and then after 50 or after their 3rd child, they must have it again.
Very good idea! It would prevent or minimize Teenage pregnancies too
Load More Replies...My mother's been advocating this for fifty years, but thinks the vasectomy should be at age 30. She's not a communist. She's seen what happens when women can't get an abortion. So have I. If you're pro-life, you're pro-legal abortion.
you are absolutely right. My grandmother fought for this her entire life. She'd seen too many women die from back-alley abortions. We're back to that now.
Load More Replies...Great! Please add mandatory vasectomy for all men owing child support for three or more months.
Because she stepped on some Republican's toes with her logic.
Load More Replies...Government needs to butt out when comes to women and their bodies but since they can't they can get involved with mens then.
A baby is not a part of a womans body. It's a body and person of its own.
Load More Replies...Age should be earlier for this and since we cannot have decent sex ed due to the same "family values god-fearing good christians" I'd say make it 15 y.o. with a limit of 2 children max per man. After two children, it should become illegal to reverse. Also, add a clause about dead beat fathers as one commenter said, pay up or tie up regardless of the number of children. As someone famous who these hypocritically so-called pro-life people will never know said, and I quote, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" if there is a death penalty for women to have an abortion so should it also be for any man linked to more than 2 kids. I know this is harsh but hey seems a good compromise to save “life”. Therefore, my questions to these hypocritically so-called pro-life people is this, as a man I am willing to do my part, are you.
All the men are triggered, but women have been dealing with this for centuries...
I really don't understand the 50+ part. Wouldn't that in theory increase the amount of unwanted kids by men in their 40s? I agree with her saying tho, it takes 2 people to make a child, so pushing all the responsibility on women is unfair.
Falcon, she said 3 kids OR 50, which ever comes first. It's because men can reproduce in later age.
Load More Replies...Okay, but then what about people who want more than 3 kids? I'm the 5th kid in my family, AND I have a little brother. There's 6 of us. Would three of us just never get to exist?
It's not actually about birth control, it's ridiculous to point out the ludicrous, inhumane approach to anti-abortion laws that prevent women having control over their bodies.
Load More Replies...I would enter the line..... but here is almost impossible to get a public vasectomy. Too much people in the world.
Eric Mac, what is impossible is to feed too much people in the world.
Load More Replies...Needs to be in every state that thinks women can't have control over their bodies!! Or worse, reproductive rights!
I upvoted this before I even read it and I'm a man. However, two to tangle! Haha!
Yeah I love when a saying goes awry too ^-^ like "damp squid"! I still fully support the concept of this article of course, as do you. I just enjoy language and lexicography etc
Load More Replies...Abortion is murder plain and simple. I dont care if there are 100 cells or 1 cell it will become a human and you want to kill it. In cases of rape I understand abortion but dont agree with it. I think that systems should be in place to cover financial costs of having a child and in extreme cases abortion is alright such as what @cybermerlin2000 said. I know this is going to get downvoted because if a comment is anything conservative you downvote but I really dont care.
This article reads out on rolanda Hollis Alabama vasectomy abortion procedures .Such illustrations are given that a lay man could even understand.it is an easy to comprehend blog which can be instigated by all at least once.
"It was done as an attempt to show how outrageous it is to have laws controlling someone’s body" - funny how pro choicers throw this belief out the window when it comes to mandatory vaccination laws. And before I get the "anti-vax" death threats that you people love so much, I VACCINATE because I CHOOSE TO! I am 100 percent pro choice across the board, it's time other "pro choicers" stop with the hypocrisy when it comes to autonomy and basic human rights.
The difference is that vaccinations are vital in protecting whole communities like the immune compromised, children too young to be vaccinate, people with allergies to certain vaccines etc. So whilst it may be personal choice those choices effect society as a whole. We need vaccines to fight these diseases, help protect us etc. There is a vast difference between vaccines and abortions.
Load More Replies...The problem with anti-vaccination is that it puts the entire population at risk. There are children who cannot get the vaccination (lowered immunity), but if they get the disease, they will die. Because of herd immunization, those children are protected. If the "herd" is no longer vaccinated, those children will die. Moreover, your own children who are not vaccinated will die, because they are not immunized by perfectly safe vaccines against deadly diseases. It's also called "Child Endangerment"
Load More Replies...And what about situations where the mother desperately wants children, but keeps having to abort due to health-related situations completely beyond her control? Yeah, no. That's not going to work.
Load More Replies...All I hear is miseducation and religion shouting over science and women's rights
Load More Replies..."Kill babies" my a*s. They're only fetuses when most abortions happen. Nothing more.
Load More Replies...... No, they're rednecks because they're out in the sun bent over working and getting sunburn on the back of their necks. And in years past, that meant they didn't have time to spend getting an education. The education system never caught up, and they still "have more important things to do." ... Did you really think the term was just a random euphemism?
Load More Replies...Yup. Maybe you'll start to understand that your opinion is not widely accepted and will even educate yourself on the subject. Nah, I don't believe you'll ever will, but at least it gives us normal people hope for humanity to see people like you get downvoted.
Load More Replies...Haha, her plan works. It outs the hypocrisy in people like you. Very good.
Load More Replies...LOL the conservatives are getting so triggered 🤣🤣🤣
A man is fertile 365 days of the year, while a woman is fertile approximately 35 days of the year, yet, it is interesting that while contraception should be a dual responsibility, the focus and blame is usually on the woman and what she has done "wrong".
Good idea. Who the hell do people think they are deciding on what's best for a total stranger? I saw a news article about a 16 year old girl who was raped and got pregnant. There were complications that meant the child would not live long after birth but the physical trauma from giving birth would kill her. Because of stupid laws made by idiots who know nothing about a persons civil rights, she was forced to give birth. She died, unnecessarily. The baby suffered for 30 minutes before dying and the rapist was never caught. Do you really want to decide what's best? Can you handle that sort of guilt. If it's not your body, leave it alone! Maybe this will make the men in charge pay attention to what is being said.
cybermerlin, do you want to know what these righteous hypocrites think? They say that this is what God wants; according to them God also does not cares about born life, because they are not willing have their taxes increased, so the government could feed, clothe, and educate all those unwanted children. This makes me furious.
Load More Replies...Why age 50? If it's illegal for women at any age.. men should have to get them asap. it's a great idea but a younger age would be better.
Exactly! And I love the one comment/suggestion about also applying the law to deadbeat dads. Owe $20K or more to your child's mom? You gotta get neutered!
Load More Replies...As a man, I always say: if men would be able to get pregnant, abortion would be the 1st and most fundamental among the human rights.
As Gloria Steinem put it, if men could get pregnant, abortion would be a sacrament.
Load More Replies...Sometimes you have to illustrate the absurd with the absurd to make a point
It was made logistically impossible on purpose!!!
Load More Replies...While vasectomies are not guarantees of no pregnancy, I think if they are going to refuse a woman's right to choose, then they should require men to do the deed in getting themselves fixed. The door swings both ways when it comes to who is responsible for an unwanted pregnancy. But it's often the mothers who are left to deal with it while the men run off to create more kids with other women. Stop punishing women for the indiscretions of men. There are plenty of things they can do to prevent these pregnancies. And to the above post by Rep Hollis..the phrase is "It takes two to tango" not "tangle."
Hugo Raible, but refusing to support that human being is harming it or even killing it.
Load More Replies...This should be world wide for men. My ex husband has 14 kids (3 to me) and does he help support them. No. He pays no child support for any of them. Why do men make out it is the women who are always in the wrong and have babies when in fact it's men like my ex who go around impregnating women not giving a s**t after they are born and moving on to the next one, always saying I'm a great father I have all these kids. This needs to happen.
I mean, since vasectomies are reversible, the law should state that men must also have one before marrying. So once they marry, or perhaps once they obtain explicit consent from the woman they plan to impregnate, only then are they permitted to have their vasectomy reversed, and then after 50 or after their 3rd child, they must have it again.
Very good idea! It would prevent or minimize Teenage pregnancies too
Load More Replies...My mother's been advocating this for fifty years, but thinks the vasectomy should be at age 30. She's not a communist. She's seen what happens when women can't get an abortion. So have I. If you're pro-life, you're pro-legal abortion.
you are absolutely right. My grandmother fought for this her entire life. She'd seen too many women die from back-alley abortions. We're back to that now.
Load More Replies...Great! Please add mandatory vasectomy for all men owing child support for three or more months.
Because she stepped on some Republican's toes with her logic.
Load More Replies...Government needs to butt out when comes to women and their bodies but since they can't they can get involved with mens then.
A baby is not a part of a womans body. It's a body and person of its own.
Load More Replies...Age should be earlier for this and since we cannot have decent sex ed due to the same "family values god-fearing good christians" I'd say make it 15 y.o. with a limit of 2 children max per man. After two children, it should become illegal to reverse. Also, add a clause about dead beat fathers as one commenter said, pay up or tie up regardless of the number of children. As someone famous who these hypocritically so-called pro-life people will never know said, and I quote, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" if there is a death penalty for women to have an abortion so should it also be for any man linked to more than 2 kids. I know this is harsh but hey seems a good compromise to save “life”. Therefore, my questions to these hypocritically so-called pro-life people is this, as a man I am willing to do my part, are you.
All the men are triggered, but women have been dealing with this for centuries...
I really don't understand the 50+ part. Wouldn't that in theory increase the amount of unwanted kids by men in their 40s? I agree with her saying tho, it takes 2 people to make a child, so pushing all the responsibility on women is unfair.
Falcon, she said 3 kids OR 50, which ever comes first. It's because men can reproduce in later age.
Load More Replies...Okay, but then what about people who want more than 3 kids? I'm the 5th kid in my family, AND I have a little brother. There's 6 of us. Would three of us just never get to exist?
It's not actually about birth control, it's ridiculous to point out the ludicrous, inhumane approach to anti-abortion laws that prevent women having control over their bodies.
Load More Replies...I would enter the line..... but here is almost impossible to get a public vasectomy. Too much people in the world.
Eric Mac, what is impossible is to feed too much people in the world.
Load More Replies...Needs to be in every state that thinks women can't have control over their bodies!! Or worse, reproductive rights!
I upvoted this before I even read it and I'm a man. However, two to tangle! Haha!
Yeah I love when a saying goes awry too ^-^ like "damp squid"! I still fully support the concept of this article of course, as do you. I just enjoy language and lexicography etc
Load More Replies...Abortion is murder plain and simple. I dont care if there are 100 cells or 1 cell it will become a human and you want to kill it. In cases of rape I understand abortion but dont agree with it. I think that systems should be in place to cover financial costs of having a child and in extreme cases abortion is alright such as what @cybermerlin2000 said. I know this is going to get downvoted because if a comment is anything conservative you downvote but I really dont care.
This article reads out on rolanda Hollis Alabama vasectomy abortion procedures .Such illustrations are given that a lay man could even understand.it is an easy to comprehend blog which can be instigated by all at least once.
"It was done as an attempt to show how outrageous it is to have laws controlling someone’s body" - funny how pro choicers throw this belief out the window when it comes to mandatory vaccination laws. And before I get the "anti-vax" death threats that you people love so much, I VACCINATE because I CHOOSE TO! I am 100 percent pro choice across the board, it's time other "pro choicers" stop with the hypocrisy when it comes to autonomy and basic human rights.
The difference is that vaccinations are vital in protecting whole communities like the immune compromised, children too young to be vaccinate, people with allergies to certain vaccines etc. So whilst it may be personal choice those choices effect society as a whole. We need vaccines to fight these diseases, help protect us etc. There is a vast difference between vaccines and abortions.
Load More Replies...The problem with anti-vaccination is that it puts the entire population at risk. There are children who cannot get the vaccination (lowered immunity), but if they get the disease, they will die. Because of herd immunization, those children are protected. If the "herd" is no longer vaccinated, those children will die. Moreover, your own children who are not vaccinated will die, because they are not immunized by perfectly safe vaccines against deadly diseases. It's also called "Child Endangerment"
Load More Replies...And what about situations where the mother desperately wants children, but keeps having to abort due to health-related situations completely beyond her control? Yeah, no. That's not going to work.
Load More Replies...All I hear is miseducation and religion shouting over science and women's rights
Load More Replies..."Kill babies" my a*s. They're only fetuses when most abortions happen. Nothing more.
Load More Replies...... No, they're rednecks because they're out in the sun bent over working and getting sunburn on the back of their necks. And in years past, that meant they didn't have time to spend getting an education. The education system never caught up, and they still "have more important things to do." ... Did you really think the term was just a random euphemism?
Load More Replies...Yup. Maybe you'll start to understand that your opinion is not widely accepted and will even educate yourself on the subject. Nah, I don't believe you'll ever will, but at least it gives us normal people hope for humanity to see people like you get downvoted.
Load More Replies...Haha, her plan works. It outs the hypocrisy in people like you. Very good.
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