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Militantly Vegan Man Tries To Ruin Possibly The Last Thanksgiving With The Whole Family
Militantly Vegan Man Tries To Ruin Possibly The Last Thanksgiving With The Whole Family
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Militantly Vegan Man Tries To Ruin Possibly The Last Thanksgiving With The Whole Family

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The holidays can be a fun time for the family to get together and share some good food. But it can also become a total headache for everyone involved, especially for the host.

In this redditor’s family, this year, she became the one to welcome the family in her home for Thanksgiving. She was also the person who had to make sure the food was in order, and that meant preparing something vegan for her brother and his girlfriend to eat. But the compromise of having some vegan dishes alongside meat was not good enough for him.

Scroll down to find the full story below, where you will also find Bored Panda’s interviews with the OP themselves, as well as with a registered dietitian-nutritionist, Jane Burrell, who was kind enough to answer a few of our questions about the vegan diet.

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    This woman’s “militantly vegan” brother refused to come for Thanksgiving if meat was going to be served to anyone

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    Having diverse foods on the table can make feeding family members following different diets an easier task

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    Cooking for the entire family can be a pain in the neck for many reasons; the quantity alone can make someone curse hard at the stove. Not to mention the allergies, the food preferences, the dietary restrictions, and the picky eaters in the family, having to take all of which into consideration can make the person want to leave the kitchen altogether.

    But some people are determined enough to make it work. While it might not be easy, it’s important for them to be supportive of their loved ones and their food choices. According to registered dietitian-nutritionist Jane Burrell, “Eating habits are personal and many styles of eating can be healthy, and it is important to allow for this individuality and support each other.”

    The expert suggests that when there are vegans in the family, a typical get-together doesn’t necessarily have to be all vegan, and combining several different dishes and making some alterations is a safe bet. For instance, a nice salad or deliciously made vegetables is something that vegans and non-vegans alike can enjoy. Using vegetable stock instead of chicken stock is also a small step to take in the kitchen, but a big one, in regards to how many people can enjoy the dish.

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    Another great way to make sure everyone is happy is asking guests to bring a dish themselves, this way alleviating the load for the host and ensuring that everyone has something to eat. Unfortunately, the OP’s brother refused to bring something to the family gathering, which is what upset the woman the most about the situation. “I’m annoyed that my brother is trying to control what I eat in my own home,” she told Bored Panda. “He’s welcome to come eat the vegetarian items or bring his own food. He’s just not going to dictate what I or my parents eat.

    “My brother has always been a bit self-centered but his personality really started to change and become obsessive and demanding when he became a vegetarian. His behavior is problematic aside from the food issue, but it did really seem to begin at the same time as the diet change, so it’s a chicken or egg question,” she added.

    The woman shared that, in her opinion, her sibling doesn’t make a lot of time for the family, unless he wants something. “He has a habit of making poor life choices and then asking our parents to bail him out. I think he keeps just enough contact with our mom to ensure she’ll come to the rescue the next time he needs money or a place to crash.”

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    There’s no one diet that fits everyone, which is why it’s better not to insist that someone eats the same way you do

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    Another benefit of guests bringing a dish they like for everyone to try is a chance for their loved ones to expand their horizons in regards to food. Though, anyone who’s ever told their uncle that not everything has to be deep fried or has ever told their cousin that having pizza for dinner five times a week might not be a good idea knows just how difficult it can be to make someone broaden said horizons.

    Take veganism, for instance, something that the OP’s brother swears by. According to Statista’s data from Europe, roughly 3% of people in his age group—millennials—are vegan. In the US, the exact number of vegan millennials is unclear, however, according to 2023 data, roughly 1% of the population in the country followed this type of diet.

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    Those who are not keen on excluding animal-based products from their menu often say that it’s impossible to lead a healthy lifestyle following a vegan diet. But according to Jane Burrell, as long as a person follows a well-balanced diet, making sure that they get enough of the necessary elements, it is possible to live a nutrient-rich life. That, of course, doesn’t mean that a vegan, or any other diet, that works for one person, will work for everyone.

    “A vegan diet may be less processed than a traditional diet and that has implications for improving the balance of good bacteria in the gut, is associated with lower blood lipids like LDL cholesterol, healthier body composition, and reducing risk of disease,” Burrell noted. “However, this does not mean that a vegan diet is always better. When we review nutrition research, we must consider that there are associations between dietary intake and health, but these associations do not necessarily mean that a certain way of eating is the only healthy way to go.”

    While bringing a vegan dish or two to a family dinner might help an uncle or a cousin open up to trying new foods, it’s unlikely to instantly make them go vegan. Neither is trying to force family members to follow such a lifestyle or giving them ultimatums like the one the OP’s brother gave, telling the family that he will be absent if anyone at all is served meat on Thanksgiving.

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    Clearly, that didn’t work and even resulted in Thanksgiving dinner being canceled altogether. Choosing to work instead of spending time with her family made the redditor wonder if she was a jerk to her family, but fellow netizens didn’t think she was; they shared their thoughts in the comments.

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    The OP asked netizens to share their opinions, and share they did

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    A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

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    Miglė Miliūtė

    Miglė Miliūtė

    Writer, Community member

    A writer here at Bored Panda, I am a lover of good music, good food, and good company, which makes food-related topics and feel-good stories my favorite ones to cover. Passionate about traveling and concerts, I constantly seek occasions to visit places yet personally unexplored. I also enjoy spending free time outdoors, trying out different sports—even if I don’t look too graceful at it—or socializing over a cup of coffee.

    What do you think ?
    Alexandra
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These particular vegans are just a bunch of dictators: they want to impose their way of life on others.

    Alex
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I absolutely agree. They're despicable. I'd personally probably still cave in because I'd be worried about my mother in that situation. I understand that turkey is a staple for Thanksgiving, and I'd be annoyed for havong to missm out on it, but for me family (not AH brother, but mother) would come first.

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    Bookworm
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The last ESH doesn't begin to make sense. That's... not how hosting a meal works. And OP didn't 'comment on anyone else's choices,' they offered to make vegan options, and before that, told Mark that they didn't want to hear any more about veganism because he was being a jerk about it. It's not judging other people's 'choices' to tell them you don't want to be lectured about their choices.

    g90814
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm just amazed there weren't any YTA with some crazy reasoning.

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    Corvus
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Vegans: (viciously force their views on everyone) -- Also vegans: "Why does everyone hate us so much; what did we do?"

    Vinnie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP specified "militant". Militant vegans are quite different from regular vegans who socialize with non-vegans and don't impose their views. My acceptance of regular vegans is based on my personal experience with several co-workers, two in-laws, etc.

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    Celestial Phalanx
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry to say that Mark and Pam are a pair of entitled, sanctimonious bullying bigots who want to impose their way of life on others under threat of throwing a tantrum. I wouldn't entertain their nonsense for a second, and wouldn't miss their absence.

    Laura Gillette
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. I am very grateful my one vegan cousin is chill and just A. brings a vegan dish to share with everyone, B. eats all the veggie sides everyone else brings, and C. says absolutely nothing to anyone about what they're eating. If I make a dessert to bring, I always look to see if there's a way to make it vegan so she can have some.

    Auntriarch
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If either of my vegan friends comes to visit, I just make everything vegan, then I don't have to signpost anything, they are really pleased, and frankly I like showing off....

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    Kay Wil
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think you’ve done your best at accommodating them, if they don’t like it, then it’s on them. I have many serious allergies, anaphylactic to many things, so wherever I go, if I know eating is involved I take my own food or I won’t eat anything except extremely safe foods I know. I took a plate of food with me to a church function one time, I hid it under all this stuff but I had it very clearly marked with my name and it was Gluten, dairy etc free food only for me. Someone took it from the fridge and didn’t just put it out on the table to share, they put on a plate with other food. Someone took it I couldn’t eat it as it had been contaminated by the other food. I was so upset by it all, after no one would own up to even doing it and apologising, I went home. I needed to eat to take my medication and I couldn’t do that. If I was you, I would give them an ultimatum they come and eat like human beings for their Mother’s sake or they can stick it and then go swap youshift.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They always talk about how cows produce methane that's warming the planet. I am doing my best to help by eating the cows.

    LandAhoy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That argument is null and void: the only reason the cows' methane exists is because human-ish creatures such as yourself insist on raising and killing cows in such despicable ways.

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    keyboardtek
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was put on a strict diet for years. I never was an a*****e to others at social gatherings I was invited to. I just ate what I could, enjoyed the company, and then grabbed more food when I got home. There are plenty of non animal products at a traditional Thanksgiving dinner a vegan can eat.

    Dragons Exist
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But they aren't on a diet, they refuse to go anywhere with meat

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    Gandalf the Pink
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to be vegan for political reasons, then I became a vegan for ethical reasons, then I was a vegan for personal reasons, then I tried some cheese again and now I am a vegetarian, oops

    Harry Verner
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Except if ur not a breatharyan ur not a vegan & never was. Countless bugs die growing any food. Bugs r animals just not cute animals. Therefore no1 is a true vegans Except the 20k or so people who liv off the suns light

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    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if they are so set to control everything, they can host. "They live in a van"? they can get an airbnb an host.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they get an Airbnb, they would be the guest, not the host. Lol sorry

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    Alexandra
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    These particular vegans are just a bunch of dictators: they want to impose their way of life on others.

    Alex
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I absolutely agree. They're despicable. I'd personally probably still cave in because I'd be worried about my mother in that situation. I understand that turkey is a staple for Thanksgiving, and I'd be annoyed for havong to missm out on it, but for me family (not AH brother, but mother) would come first.

    Load More Replies...
    Bookworm
    Community Member
    Premium
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The last ESH doesn't begin to make sense. That's... not how hosting a meal works. And OP didn't 'comment on anyone else's choices,' they offered to make vegan options, and before that, told Mark that they didn't want to hear any more about veganism because he was being a jerk about it. It's not judging other people's 'choices' to tell them you don't want to be lectured about their choices.

    g90814
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm just amazed there weren't any YTA with some crazy reasoning.

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    Corvus
    Community Member
    1 year ago (edited) Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Vegans: (viciously force their views on everyone) -- Also vegans: "Why does everyone hate us so much; what did we do?"

    Vinnie
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    The OP specified "militant". Militant vegans are quite different from regular vegans who socialize with non-vegans and don't impose their views. My acceptance of regular vegans is based on my personal experience with several co-workers, two in-laws, etc.

    Load More Replies...
    Celestial Phalanx
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I'm sorry to say that Mark and Pam are a pair of entitled, sanctimonious bullying bigots who want to impose their way of life on others under threat of throwing a tantrum. I wouldn't entertain their nonsense for a second, and wouldn't miss their absence.

    Laura Gillette
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Wow. I am very grateful my one vegan cousin is chill and just A. brings a vegan dish to share with everyone, B. eats all the veggie sides everyone else brings, and C. says absolutely nothing to anyone about what they're eating. If I make a dessert to bring, I always look to see if there's a way to make it vegan so she can have some.

    Auntriarch
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If either of my vegan friends comes to visit, I just make everything vegan, then I don't have to signpost anything, they are really pleased, and frankly I like showing off....

    Load More Replies...
    Kay Wil
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I think you’ve done your best at accommodating them, if they don’t like it, then it’s on them. I have many serious allergies, anaphylactic to many things, so wherever I go, if I know eating is involved I take my own food or I won’t eat anything except extremely safe foods I know. I took a plate of food with me to a church function one time, I hid it under all this stuff but I had it very clearly marked with my name and it was Gluten, dairy etc free food only for me. Someone took it from the fridge and didn’t just put it out on the table to share, they put on a plate with other food. Someone took it I couldn’t eat it as it had been contaminated by the other food. I was so upset by it all, after no one would own up to even doing it and apologising, I went home. I needed to eat to take my medication and I couldn’t do that. If I was you, I would give them an ultimatum they come and eat like human beings for their Mother’s sake or they can stick it and then go swap youshift.

    Scott Rackley
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    They always talk about how cows produce methane that's warming the planet. I am doing my best to help by eating the cows.

    LandAhoy
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    That argument is null and void: the only reason the cows' methane exists is because human-ish creatures such as yourself insist on raising and killing cows in such despicable ways.

    Load More Replies...
    keyboardtek
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I was put on a strict diet for years. I never was an a*****e to others at social gatherings I was invited to. I just ate what I could, enjoyed the company, and then grabbed more food when I got home. There are plenty of non animal products at a traditional Thanksgiving dinner a vegan can eat.

    Dragons Exist
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    But they aren't on a diet, they refuse to go anywhere with meat

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    Gandalf the Pink
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    I used to be vegan for political reasons, then I became a vegan for ethical reasons, then I was a vegan for personal reasons, then I tried some cheese again and now I am a vegetarian, oops

    Harry Verner
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    Except if ur not a breatharyan ur not a vegan & never was. Countless bugs die growing any food. Bugs r animals just not cute animals. Therefore no1 is a true vegans Except the 20k or so people who liv off the suns light

    Load More Replies...
    marcelo D.
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    if they are so set to control everything, they can host. "They live in a van"? they can get an airbnb an host.

    Thanos'Fingers
    Community Member
    1 year ago Created by potrace 1.15, written by Peter Selinger 2001-2017

    If they get an Airbnb, they would be the guest, not the host. Lol sorry

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